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00:01:21,904\n進入了我們的國軍弟兄的部隊中所以這個部分本席主要是要再次的強調因為現在各級政府他們都下令都拒絕所以我們不希望所有被拒絕的食品反而成為保家衛國的我們的國軍弟兄們的餐桌上的食物\n\n5\n00:01:22,364 --> 00:01:30,286\n所以本席要在這邊再次的請副部長這個部分您是不是可以我們一定要加強做到可以嗎\n\n6\n00:01:31,474 --> 00:01:55,855\n現在委員對我們官兵的健康食品安全提出這樣的議題事實上委員上提出來以後我們國防部事實上依照行政院所公布的所有廠家那我們也去清查了我們所有的復工站所提供的產品大概有87項不合格我們都採取預防性的下架那除此之外我們也成立了食安小組去查所以你是說新的不知道的所以才不小心的\n\n7\n00:01:56,135 --> 00:02:00,537\n第二題本席想請教本席在海巡署的解凍報告中看到海巡署跟國防部有建立情監偵平台\n\n8\n00:02:21,769 --> 00:02:34,756\n平時共同的監控以及掌握海面的動態您可不可以用30秒讓本席瞭解這個情監偵平台他是監控什麼他監控及時的海面資訊嗎還是\n\n9\n00:02:38,479 --> 00:03:03,500\n這個我們和海巡署的配合在共同執行任務的時候都是利用我們雷達的陸基上的雷達的監視系統以及我們海岸的巡防系統來做所有的海面上的狀況的監控那我想這個勤監政這些事情呢我們可以這樣講就是說中共的船艦如果從遠來講我們的雷達可以看得見的那我們也會把訊息跟海巡署分享讓我們來共同掌握海空的狀況\n\n10\n00:03:06,283 --> 00:03:26,360\n請問這個情監偵平台的海面動態資訊有沒有掌握到之前金門海巡事件大陸船隻和海巡艦艇的動態和事件經過報告委員這個詳細的情況我不願在這邊說明但是我可以向委員報告這個都可以掌握是不是有機密\n\n11\n00:03:27,949 --> 00:03:46,618\n是不是有國防機密?是的,我要這樣講,這牽扯到我們的所有海空狀況的監控的狀況。但我跟委員報告,這些都是我們掌控當中。那如果是機密,那是不是去除機密部分有提供給檢察官參考?因為這個事件整個現在檢察官在辦。\n\n12\n00:03:47,783 --> 00:04:01,153\n報告委員我知道現在這個事件已經針對司法證據所有的證據只要檢察官提出來我們都會提供所以都有提供是的再來本席也要請教我們這個海巡艦艇\n\n13\n00:04:05,516 --> 00:04:29,897\n我們台灣的海巡艦艇因為數量或頓速我們都遠遠不及大陸的我想國防部很清楚所以國防部對海巡有沒有這種即時馳援的機制應該是有的嗎當然是有是的那所以本席在這裡主要就是要特別的來提醒跟強調我們千萬不能讓我們的海巡艦艇被對岸的\n\n14\n00:04:31,281 --> 00:04:31,341\n徐欣瑩委員\n\n15\n00:04:55,113 --> 00:05:17,632\n海軍的艦艇都在旁邊協助海巡署在執行這樣的業務所以在合作上面來講我們能夠在今天台海的狀況縱使中共的船艦每天進入到我的禁限制水域甚至於到達我們20海里我們都是採取相關的行動準則來抵禦這些中共的灰色地帶衝突升高\n\n16\n00:05:18,237 --> 00:05:26,921\n好所以做最好的互相支援的準備那再來本席想請教我們現在兩岸局勢到底有多緊張報委員這個我必須要跟委員報告事實上我們現在兩岸的局勢在全球來看都是在可控制的範圍裡面那就國軍的立場來看我們就跟我們部長所強調的我們要一定要料敵從寬欲敵從嚴這是我們國軍的立場是的那本席\n\n17\n00:05:48,672 --> 00:06:02,107\n這個主要是要反映我們新竹縣我們的竹北西區就是靠海邊那裡我不知道我們國軍的航道是不是非常多民眾反映空軍日夜訓練\n\n18\n00:06:03,208 --> 00:06:29,848\n日夜訓練、夜野訓練嚴重的影響當地居民的生活作息當然我們站在國家安全的立場我們當然支持我們國防部該做的訓練但是已經讓民眾日夜都沒辦法休息他們致電國防部國防部就反應兩岸局勢非常非常緊張所以我們就是需要這麼頻繁的訓練那這個部分民眾的生活該怎麼辦這種\n\n19\n00:06:31,769 --> 00:06:58,115\n緊張的局勢那民眾他的生活要緊跟著緊張到什麼時候還有生活完全的被打擾這情況怎麼辦報告委員我跟委員報告所以本席想了解的是這裡面有沒有過多的過多的訓練或者是怎麼樣對民眾這裡因為他們畢竟長久居住在那裡這個部分要解決報告委員我首先必須要強調現在的民眾對國防的關心的程度非常感激\n\n20\n00:06:58,795 --> 00:07:16,031\n那我們事實上我們可以看到現在海空的動態他們不是關係他們是因為我知道尤其尤其現在中共的灰色地帶衝突他不是只有利用日間夜間也來實施海空的這樣子的一個灰色地帶衝突所以我們的官兵我們當然知道你們需要那現在這個中間有沒有我們會把這樣子\n\n21\n00:07:21,055 --> 00:07:23,195\n有關於居民的溝通尤其是機場旁邊的噪音\n\n22\n00:07:50,220 --> 00:08:03,719\n這些里長跟我們的所有的聯隊都保持一個很好的互動這個就是他們跟我反映的那如果有這個問題希望我提供誰反映我們今天會請那個聯隊去跟這些居民來做溝通謝謝委員的提供\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n70\t2127\t國防部副部長金伯副部長\n8235\t35389\t蘇委員好本席委員會部長會在那上禮拜本席有特別來本委員會提醒為我們國軍弟兄的食安特別的提醒部長不要讓蘇丹紅不管是調味料或是副食品加工副食品成為我們國軍弟兄\n36269\t36309\t徐欣瑩議員\n56259\t81904\t進入了我們的國軍弟兄的部隊中所以這個部分本席主要是要再次的強調因為現在各級政府他們都下令都拒絕所以我們不希望所有被拒絕的食品反而成為保家衛國的我們的國軍弟兄們的餐桌上的食物\n82364\t90286\t所以本席要在這邊再次的請副部長這個部分您是不是可以我們一定要加強做到可以嗎\n91474\t115855\t現在委員對我們官兵的健康食品安全提出這樣的議題事實上委員上提出來以後我們國防部事實上依照行政院所公布的所有廠家那我們也去清查了我們所有的復工站所提供的產品大概有87項不合格我們都採取預防性的下架那除此之外我們也成立了食安小組去查所以你是說新的不知道的所以才不小心的\n116135\t120537\t第二題本席想請教本席在海巡署的解凍報告中看到海巡署跟國防部有建立情監偵平台\n141769\t154756\t平時共同的監控以及掌握海面的動態您可不可以用30秒讓本席瞭解這個情監偵平台他是監控什麼他監控及時的海面資訊嗎還是\n158479\t183500\t這個我們和海巡署的配合在共同執行任務的時候都是利用我們雷達的陸基上的雷達的監視系統以及我們海岸的巡防系統來做所有的海面上的狀況的監控那我想這個勤監政這些事情呢我們可以這樣講就是說中共的船艦如果從遠來講我們的雷達可以看得見的那我們也會把訊息跟海巡署分享讓我們來共同掌握海空的狀況\n186283\t206360\t請問這個情監偵平台的海面動態資訊有沒有掌握到之前金門海巡事件大陸船隻和海巡艦艇的動態和事件經過報告委員這個詳細的情況我不願在這邊說明但是我可以向委員報告這個都可以掌握是不是有機密\n207949\t226618\t是不是有國防機密?是的,我要這樣講,這牽扯到我們的所有海空狀況的監控的狀況。但我跟委員報告,這些都是我們掌控當中。那如果是機密,那是不是去除機密部分有提供給檢察官參考?因為這個事件整個現在檢察官在辦。\n227783\t241153\t報告委員 我知道 現在這個事件已經針對司法證據所有的證據只要檢察官提出來 我們都會提供所以都有提供 是的再來本席也要請教 我們這個海巡艦艇\n245516\t269897\t我們台灣的海巡艦艇因為數量或頓速我們都遠遠不及大陸的我想國防部很清楚所以國防部對海巡有沒有這種即時馳援的機制應該是有的嗎當然是有是的那所以本席在這裡主要就是要特別的來提醒跟強調我們千萬不能讓我們的海巡艦艇被對岸的\n271281\t271341\t徐欣瑩委員\n295113\t317632\t海軍的艦艇都在旁邊協助海巡署在執行這樣的業務所以在合作上面來講我們能夠在今天台海的狀況縱使中共的船艦每天進入到我的禁限制水域甚至於到達我們20海里我們都是採取相關的行動準則來抵禦這些中共的灰色地帶衝突升高\n318237\t326921\t好 所以做最好的互相支援的準備那再來本席想請教我們現在兩岸局勢到底有多緊張報委員 這個我必須要跟委員報告事實上我們現在兩岸的局勢在全球來看都是在可控制的範圍裡面那就國軍的立場來看我們就跟我們部長所強調的我們要一定要料敵從寬 欲敵從嚴這是我們國軍的立場 是的那本席\n348672\t362107\t這個主要是要反映我們新竹縣我們的竹北西區就是靠海邊那裡我不知道我們國軍的航道是不是非常多民眾反映空軍日夜訓練\n363208\t389848\t日夜訓練、夜野訓練嚴重的影響當地居民的生活作息當然我們站在國家安全的立場我們當然支持我們國防部該做的訓練但是已經讓民眾日夜都沒辦法休息他們致電國防部國防部就反應兩岸局勢非常非常緊張所以我們就是需要這麼頻繁的訓練那這個部分民眾的生活該怎麼辦這種\n391769\t418115\t緊張的局勢那民眾他的生活要緊跟著緊張到什麼時候還有生活完全的被打擾這情況怎麼辦報告委員我跟委員報告所以本席想了解的是這裡面有沒有過多的過多的訓練或者是怎麼樣對民眾這裡因為他們畢竟長久居住在那裡這個部分要解決報告委員我首先必須要強調現在的民眾對國防的關心的程度非常感激\n418795\t436031\t那我們事實上我們可以看到現在海空的動態他們不是關係他們是因為我知道尤其尤其現在中共的灰色地帶衝突他不是只有利用日間夜間也來實施海空的這樣子的一個灰色地帶衝突所以我們的官兵我們當然知道你們需要那現在這個中間有沒有我們會把這樣子\n441055\t443195\t有關於居民的溝通尤其是機場旁邊的噪音\n470220\t483719\t這些里長跟我們的所有的聯隊都保持一個很好的互動這個就是他們跟我反映的那如果有這個問題希望我提供誰反映我們今天會請那個聯隊去跟這些居民來做溝通謝謝委員的提供\n","txt":"國防部副部長金伯副部長\n蘇委員好本席委員會部長會在那上禮拜本席有特別來本委員會提醒為我們國軍弟兄的食安特別的提醒部長不要讓蘇丹紅不管是調味料或是副食品加工副食品成為我們國軍弟兄\n徐欣瑩議員\n進入了我們的國軍弟兄的部隊中所以這個部分本席主要是要再次的強調因為現在各級政府他們都下令都拒絕所以我們不希望所有被拒絕的食品反而成為保家衛國的我們的國軍弟兄們的餐桌上的食物\n所以本席要在這邊再次的請副部長這個部分您是不是可以我們一定要加強做到可以嗎\n現在委員對我們官兵的健康食品安全提出這樣的議題事實上委員上提出來以後我們國防部事實上依照行政院所公布的所有廠家那我們也去清查了我們所有的復工站所提供的產品大概有87項不合格我們都採取預防性的下架那除此之外我們也成立了食安小組去查所以你是說新的不知道的所以才不小心的\n第二題本席想請教本席在海巡署的解凍報告中看到海巡署跟國防部有建立情監偵平台\n平時共同的監控以及掌握海面的動態您可不可以用30秒讓本席瞭解這個情監偵平台他是監控什麼他監控及時的海面資訊嗎還是\n這個我們和海巡署的配合在共同執行任務的時候都是利用我們雷達的陸基上的雷達的監視系統以及我們海岸的巡防系統來做所有的海面上的狀況的監控那我想這個勤監政這些事情呢我們可以這樣講就是說中共的船艦如果從遠來講我們的雷達可以看得見的那我們也會把訊息跟海巡署分享讓我們來共同掌握海空的狀況\n請問這個情監偵平台的海面動態資訊有沒有掌握到之前金門海巡事件大陸船隻和海巡艦艇的動態和事件經過報告委員這個詳細的情況我不願在這邊說明但是我可以向委員報告這個都可以掌握是不是有機密\n是不是有國防機密?是的,我要這樣講,這牽扯到我們的所有海空狀況的監控的狀況。但我跟委員報告,這些都是我們掌控當中。那如果是機密,那是不是去除機密部分有提供給檢察官參考?因為這個事件整個現在檢察官在辦。\n報告委員 我知道 現在這個事件已經針對司法證據所有的證據只要檢察官提出來 我們都會提供所以都有提供 是的再來本席也要請教 我們這個海巡艦艇\n我們台灣的海巡艦艇因為數量或頓速我們都遠遠不及大陸的我想國防部很清楚所以國防部對海巡有沒有這種即時馳援的機制應該是有的嗎當然是有是的那所以本席在這裡主要就是要特別的來提醒跟強調我們千萬不能讓我們的海巡艦艇被對岸的\n徐欣瑩委員\n海軍的艦艇都在旁邊協助海巡署在執行這樣的業務所以在合作上面來講我們能夠在今天台海的狀況縱使中共的船艦每天進入到我的禁限制水域甚至於到達我們20海里我們都是採取相關的行動準則來抵禦這些中共的灰色地帶衝突升高\n好 所以做最好的互相支援的準備那再來本席想請教我們現在兩岸局勢到底有多緊張報委員 這個我必須要跟委員報告事實上我們現在兩岸的局勢在全球來看都是在可控制的範圍裡面那就國軍的立場來看我們就跟我們部長所強調的我們要一定要料敵從寬 欲敵從嚴這是我們國軍的立場 是的那本席\n這個主要是要反映我們新竹縣我們的竹北西區就是靠海邊那裡我不知道我們國軍的航道是不是非常多民眾反映空軍日夜訓練\n日夜訓練、夜野訓練嚴重的影響當地居民的生活作息當然我們站在國家安全的立場我們當然支持我們國防部該做的訓練但是已經讓民眾日夜都沒辦法休息他們致電國防部國防部就反應兩岸局勢非常非常緊張所以我們就是需要這麼頻繁的訓練那這個部分民眾的生活該怎麼辦這種\n緊張的局勢那民眾他的生活要緊跟著緊張到什麼時候還有生活完全的被打擾這情況怎麼辦報告委員我跟委員報告所以本席想了解的是這裡面有沒有過多的過多的訓練或者是怎麼樣對民眾這裡因為他們畢竟長久居住在那裡這個部分要解決報告委員我首先必須要強調現在的民眾對國防的關心的程度非常感激\n那我們事實上我們可以看到現在海空的動態他們不是關係他們是因為我知道尤其尤其現在中共的灰色地帶衝突他不是只有利用日間夜間也來實施海空的這樣子的一個灰色地帶衝突所以我們的官兵我們當然知道你們需要那現在這個中間有沒有我們會把這樣子\n有關於居民的溝通尤其是機場旁邊的噪音\n這些里長跟我們的所有的聯隊都保持一個很好的互動這個就是他們跟我反映的那如果有這個問題希望我提供誰反映我們今天會請那個聯隊去跟這些居民來做溝通謝謝委員的提供\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.070 --> 00:02.127\n國防部副部長金伯副部長\n\n00:08.235 --> 00:35.389\n蘇委員好本席委員會部長會在那上禮拜本席有特別來本委員會提醒為我們國軍弟兄的食安特別的提醒部長不要讓蘇丹紅不管是調味料或是副食品加工副食品成為我們國軍弟兄\n\n00:36.269 --> 00:36.309\n徐欣瑩議員\n\n00:56.259 --> 01:21.904\n進入了我們的國軍弟兄的部隊中所以這個部分本席主要是要再次的強調因為現在各級政府他們都下令都拒絕所以我們不希望所有被拒絕的食品反而成為保家衛國的我們的國軍弟兄們的餐桌上的食物\n\n01:22.364 --> 01:30.286\n所以本席要在這邊再次的請副部長這個部分您是不是可以我們一定要加強做到可以嗎\n\n01:31.474 --> 01:55.855\n現在委員對我們官兵的健康食品安全提出這樣的議題事實上委員上提出來以後我們國防部事實上依照行政院所公布的所有廠家那我們也去清查了我們所有的復工站所提供的產品大概有87項不合格我們都採取預防性的下架那除此之外我們也成立了食安小組去查所以你是說新的不知道的所以才不小心的\n\n01:56.135 --> 02:00.537\n第二題本席想請教本席在海巡署的解凍報告中看到海巡署跟國防部有建立情監偵平台\n\n02:21.769 --> 02:34.756\n平時共同的監控以及掌握海面的動態您可不可以用30秒讓本席瞭解這個情監偵平台他是監控什麼他監控及時的海面資訊嗎還是\n\n02:38.479 --> 03:03.500\n這個我們和海巡署的配合在共同執行任務的時候都是利用我們雷達的陸基上的雷達的監視系統以及我們海岸的巡防系統來做所有的海面上的狀況的監控那我想這個勤監政這些事情呢我們可以這樣講就是說中共的船艦如果從遠來講我們的雷達可以看得見的那我們也會把訊息跟海巡署分享讓我們來共同掌握海空的狀況\n\n03:06.283 --> 03:26.360\n請問這個情監偵平台的海面動態資訊有沒有掌握到之前金門海巡事件大陸船隻和海巡艦艇的動態和事件經過報告委員這個詳細的情況我不願在這邊說明但是我可以向委員報告這個都可以掌握是不是有機密\n\n03:27.949 --> 03:46.618\n是不是有國防機密?是的,我要這樣講,這牽扯到我們的所有海空狀況的監控的狀況。但我跟委員報告,這些都是我們掌控當中。那如果是機密,那是不是去除機密部分有提供給檢察官參考?因為這個事件整個現在檢察官在辦。\n\n03:47.783 --> 04:01.153\n報告委員我知道現在這個事件已經針對司法證據所有的證據只要檢察官提出來我們都會提供所以都有提供是的再來本席也要請教我們這個海巡艦艇\n\n04:05.516 --> 04:29.897\n我們台灣的海巡艦艇因為數量或頓速我們都遠遠不及大陸的我想國防部很清楚所以國防部對海巡有沒有這種即時馳援的機制應該是有的嗎當然是有是的那所以本席在這裡主要就是要特別的來提醒跟強調我們千萬不能讓我們的海巡艦艇被對岸的\n\n04:31.281 --> 04:31.341\n徐欣瑩委員\n\n04:55.113 --> 05:17.632\n海軍的艦艇都在旁邊協助海巡署在執行這樣的業務所以在合作上面來講我們能夠在今天台海的狀況縱使中共的船艦每天進入到我的禁限制水域甚至於到達我們20海里我們都是採取相關的行動準則來抵禦這些中共的灰色地帶衝突升高\n\n05:18.237 --> 05:26.921\n好所以做最好的互相支援的準備那再來本席想請教我們現在兩岸局勢到底有多緊張報委員這個我必須要跟委員報告事實上我們現在兩岸的局勢在全球來看都是在可控制的範圍裡面那就國軍的立場來看我們就跟我們部長所強調的我們要一定要料敵從寬欲敵從嚴這是我們國軍的立場是的那本席\n\n05:48.672 --> 06:02.107\n這個主要是要反映我們新竹縣我們的竹北西區就是靠海邊那裡我不知道我們國軍的航道是不是非常多民眾反映空軍日夜訓練\n\n06:03.208 --> 06:29.848\n日夜訓練、夜野訓練嚴重的影響當地居民的生活作息當然我們站在國家安全的立場我們當然支持我們國防部該做的訓練但是已經讓民眾日夜都沒辦法休息他們致電國防部國防部就反應兩岸局勢非常非常緊張所以我們就是需要這麼頻繁的訓練那這個部分民眾的生活該怎麼辦這種\n\n06:31.769 --> 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