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00:00:07,789\n謝謝主席有請陳署長請陳署長\n\n2\n00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:38,181\n委員好署長早安署長那我想您上任的時候有提到氣象署的這個角色未來會進一步強化在支援國家因應氣候變遷的扮演的角色是不是有這樣的一個期許是\n\n3\n00:00:39,678 --> 00:01:00,445\n那我先就教一個問題啦那我想我們以往各縣市首長最痛苦的一件事情叫做颱風假的一個放假標準這個每次都陷入天人交戰那原因是因為我們氣象署提供的資料往往都是有一個這個邊緣的一個狀況那針對這個情形,署長怎麼看待這件事情?\n\n4\n00:01:07,101 --> 00:01:33,160\n好有關這個氣象預報特別是風和雨的預報跟颱風架這邊的關聯在過去其實做過蠻多次的討論那當然我們知道氣象預報的確沒有辦法百分之百準確不過隨著我們的技術的進步我們的預報的準確度其實不斷在提升那當然對於縣市政府而言在面對這個休假停班停課的決策的時候的確非常困難\n\n5\n00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:56,482\n所以我們也在這個整個過程裡面不斷的去強化我們對縣市政府的資源比如說從前年開始我們已經在遇到特別有停班停課可能性的時候會進行連線作業在停班停課決策之前就會提供相關的諮詢給縣市政府的首長們來提供相關的諮詢\n\n6\n00:01:58,644 --> 00:01:59,065\n徐富癸徐富癸\n\n7\n00:02:14,821 --> 00:02:14,901\n徐富癸．\n\n8\n00:02:33,988 --> 00:02:54,559\n市長我想這個放假問題不是只有縣市首長這個陷入天然交戰最重要是家長的問題很多家長臨時接到放假通知他們必須放下工作來接送小孩這是非常非常引起很大民怨的一件事情那所以本期希望氣象署針對這個部分是不是可以做一個比較\n\n9\n00:02:55,239 --> 00:02:56,300\n謝謝委員關心這個我們一定持續的來改善\n\n10\n00:03:12,079 --> 00:03:30,476\n那我想就是本席也來自我們的國境之南的屏東那以往我們都說我們的農民看天吃飯那現在本席覺得不是看天吃飯是因為面對極端氣候是要看氣象吃飯那所以我想氣象署從\n\n11\n00:03:31,818 --> 00:03:45,391\n這幾年的前瞬預算一共分到三十一億多那從這個金額來看也不算少啦那請教署長針對這一筆三十幾億的前瞬預算我們怎麼樣來因應台灣極端氣候的一個變遷\n\n12\n00:03:47,656 --> 00:04:12,330\n跟委員報告目前在前瞻計畫你們的前瞻預算其實一部分是有關地震的部分另外一部分是有關我們高速電腦的部分那有關這個特別是對我們的農民的部分其實我們一直持續加強跟過去的農委會現在的農業部來進行相關的合作那主要有兩個重要的工作方向\n\n13\n00:04:12,870 --> 00:04:40,199\n第一個工作方案是增加我們對於農業氣象觀測站的設置這是第一個部分因為我們如果不知道現在的狀況根本不用去談預報了那這是第一個部分另外一個部分就是跟我們的農業部來進行合作對於我們全國的作區農業的作區他相關的這個氣象的資料進行更精確的更精確的預報那這個部分\n\n14\n00:04:42,040 --> 00:05:04,390\n當然屏東是一個非常非常重要的點那還有其他的縣市也透過跟不僅是跟我們的中央政府也跟我們的地方政府來做互動來提供相關的資料並且也提供給農會來做參考我想你剛剛提到一個重點尤其是屏東縣是我們的農業大縣那因為我們之前在會館的過程裡面\n\n15\n00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:26,949\n常常會有提到一個所謂的一個延遲性災害的問題那針對我們的農業部的一些官員他們也很困擾非常困擾因為這個極端氣候造成的這個因素讓他們也很難去做直接的判斷那所以說我記得我們在111年有一個研究的一個文獻有提到說\n\n16\n00:05:27,449 --> 00:05:28,950\n徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐\n\n17\n00:05:49,884 --> 00:05:50,925\n徐富癸徐富癸\n\n18\n00:06:19,773 --> 00:06:34,775\n市長我想這樣子我們在座很多委員每次碰到農業勘災都非常的困擾也希望說針對這樣子的一個農業災損的一個判斷上面也能夠我們主動跟農業部能夠做一個\n\n19\n00:06:35,316 --> 00:06:35,416\n﹚徐富癸\n\n20\n00:07:01,832 --> 00:07:01,992\n徐富癸\n\n21\n00:07:21,849 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這個我們一定持續的來改善\n那我想就是本席也來自我們的國境之南的屏東那以往我們都說我們的農民看天吃飯那現在本席覺得不是看天吃飯是因為面對極端氣候是要看氣象吃飯那所以我想氣象署從\n這幾年的前瞬預算一共分到三十一億多那從這個金額來看也不算少啦那請教署長針對這一筆三十幾億的前瞬預算我們怎麼樣來因應台灣極端氣候的一個變遷\n跟委員報告目前在前瞻計畫你們的前瞻預算其實一部分是有關地震的部分另外一部分是有關我們高速電腦的部分那有關這個特別是對我們的農民的部分其實我們一直持續加強跟過去的農委會現在的農業部來進行相關的合作那主要有兩個重要的工作方向\n第一個工作方案是增加我們對於農業氣象觀測站的設置這是第一個部分因為我們如果不知道現在的狀況根本不用去談預報了那這是第一個部分另外一個部分就是跟我們的農業部來進行合作對於我們全國的作區農業的作區他相關的這個氣象的資料進行更精確的更精確的預報那這個部分\n當然屏東是一個非常非常重要的點那還有其他的縣市也透過跟不僅是跟我們的中央政府也跟我們的地方政府來做互動來提供相關的資料並且也提供給農會來做參考我想你剛剛提到一個重點尤其是屏東縣是我們的農業大縣那因為我們之前在會館的過程裡面\n常常會有提到一個所謂的一個延遲性災害的問題那針對我們的農業部的一些官員他們也很困擾非常困擾因為這個極端氣候造成的這個因素讓他們也很難去做直接的判斷那所以說我記得我們在111年有一個研究的一個文獻有提到說\n徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐富癸徐\n徐富癸徐富癸\n市長我想這樣子我們在座很多委員每次碰到農業勘災都非常的困擾也希望說針對這樣子的一個農業災損的一個判斷上面也能夠我們主動跟農業部能夠做一個\n﹚徐富癸\n徐富癸\n徐富癸\n好,謝謝署長。我希望我們一起加油,能夠把農業的災損部分做一個比較完善的處理。另外最後一個問題就是,因為屏東縣有很多土石流的高顯示地區,我想這個署長非常清楚。\n往往會造成我們很多原鄉的一些鄉親有心理上的一個很大的恐懼那針對這些高潛勢的自在地區我們有沒有做什麼樣的一個因應對策\n目前有關自災的高潛勢地區那主要相關的是上游的部分是由我們的農業部的水保署在進行相關的工作那這個部分我們也跟水保署有非常非常密切的聯繫那主要是希望能夠提供相關的正確降雨的資料來給水保署來做有關這個土石災害的估計\n税保局一個完整的一個判斷好謝謝是謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.508 --> 00:07.789\n謝謝主席有請陳署長請陳署長\n\n00:22.040 --> 00:38.181\n委員好署長早安署長那我想您上任的時候有提到氣象署的這個角色未來會進一步強化在支援國家因應氣候變遷的扮演的角色是不是有這樣的一個期許是\n\n00:39.678 --> 01:00.445\n那我先就教一個問題啦那我想我們以往各縣市首長最痛苦的一件事情叫做颱風假的一個放假標準這個每次都陷入天人交戰那原因是因為我們氣象署提供的資料往往都是有一個這個邊緣的一個狀況那針對這個情形,署長怎麼看待這件事情?\n\n01:07.101 --> 01:33.160\n好有關這個氣象預報特別是風和雨的預報跟颱風架這邊的關聯在過去其實做過蠻多次的討論那當然我們知道氣象預報的確沒有辦法百分之百準確不過隨著我們的技術的進步我們的預報的準確度其實不斷在提升那當然對於縣市政府而言在面對這個休假停班停課的決策的時候的確非常困難\n\n01:33.880 --> 01:56.482\n所以我們也在這個整個過程裡面不斷的去強化我們對縣市政府的資源比如說從前年開始我們已經在遇到特別有停班停課可能性的時候會進行連線作業在停班停課決策之前就會提供相關的諮詢給縣市政府的首長們來提供相關的諮詢\n\n01:58.644 --> 01:59.065\n徐富癸徐富癸\n\n02:14.821 --> 02:14.901\n徐富癸．\n\n02:33.988 --> 02:54.559\n市長我想這個放假問題不是只有縣市首長這個陷入天然交戰最重要是家長的問題很多家長臨時接到放假通知他們必須放下工作來接送小孩這是非常非常引起很大民怨的一件事情那所以本期希望氣象署針對這個部分是不是可以做一個比較\n\n02:55.239 --> 02:56.300\n謝謝委員關心這個我們一定持續的來改善\n\n03:12.079 --> 03:30.476\n那我想就是本席也來自我們的國境之南的屏東那以往我們都說我們的農民看天吃飯那現在本席覺得不是看天吃飯是因為面對極端氣候是要看氣象吃飯那所以我想氣象署從\n\n03:31.818 --> 03:45.391\n這幾年的前瞬預算一共分到三十一億多那從這個金額來看也不算少啦那請教署長針對這一筆三十幾億的前瞬預算我們怎麼樣來因應台灣極端氣候的一個變遷\n\n03:47.656 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