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00:00:29,749\n好謝謝昭偉那我們是請陳署長請陳署長署長以後有邀請的時候你再上來好不好不要那麼緊張也是第一次站在這邊是好謝謝昭偉謝謝署長黃馬勾一郎來這個先看一張圖片我想要先請教一下署長署長這兩個氣球為什麼不一樣看得到嗎\n\n2\n00:00:34,251 --> 00:00:53,020\n看得到然後請問一下這兩個氣球的作用有什麼不一樣下面的看得比較清楚上面比較不太知道下面比較看起來像是就是一般我們這個氣象用的探空氣球因為下面掛了一個探空椅上面那個看不太清楚它上面是什麼樣的上面這當然是\n\n3\n00:00:54,922 --> 00:01:17,143\n這個軍事用的氣球啦,這就是說我們想要了解就是說過去這些這段時間我們常常會看到新聞上提到說這個這個中國大陸中共的這些這個可能是疑似這個這個軍事用的偵查氣球會飄過來這個台灣的上空那有的人解釋說這其實氣象氣球那我想要先請教一下氣象署在這個相關的業務上面\n\n4\n00:01:17,763 --> 00:01:42,473\n你們是由你們來判斷他是氣象氣球還是軍事氣球這業務上是你們判斷呢還是是國防部來判斷目前對於氣象氣球的偵測其實我們自己是沒有偵測能力的所以目前相關的資料都是國防部通知我們之後我們再來看他是不是氣象的氣球因為氣象氣球他其實不會飄太久也不會飄太遠\n\n5\n00:01:43,453 --> 00:02:08,849\n那他的高度也有一定的高度他就會破裂因為就我們理解氣象氣球一般來講大概就是他是橡膠做的那最高飛行高度30公里左右那飄行一段距離之後他自己就會破掉了自己就下來了嘛那我想問說依照這個氣象的專業或是依照這個風向的專業這個中國大陸如果發射所謂的這個這個軍事的偵察氣球他有沒有可能有沒有機會\n\n6\n00:02:10,491 --> 00:02:15,300\n如果只是單純氣象氣球好了,如果是氣象氣球,他有可能飄過台灣海峽來到台灣上空嗎?\n\n7\n00:02:16,799 --> 00:02:40,449\n的確是不能排除的那就看這個氣球如果它升到高空比如說剛剛委員其實也提到說會升到30公里的高空升到高空之後它如果沒有破裂它會持續的在漂流所以不過它在漂流的位置因為是非常非常高度非常非常高所以基本上不是在我們一般大氣這個環境的狀態之下\n\n8\n00:02:43,130 --> 00:03:09,628\n通常一個氣球如果依照我們過去所知道的相關統計資料的話一個氣球可能二三十分鐘他就會破掉了所以他能夠飄他能夠飄動的飄送的這個距離也不會太遠好署長謝謝我想這個資訊我想就提供國人參考因為我們大家其實都很緊張有時候都覺得說到底飄過來的是氣象氣球還是軍事氣球因為也怕誤會了說這個是軍事或是氣象的問題那我想未來這個個案\n\n9\n00:03:11,229 --> 00:03:26,570\n按照署長的意思這種個案的話其實還是依照每一次飄過來的樣態由你們來判斷沒辦法保證說他到底是軍事的或者是氣象用的是嗎是基本資料我想必須仍舊由我們的國防單位來提供我們才能夠判斷因為我們自己沒有偵測能力\n\n10\n00:03:27,771 --> 00:03:47,184\n好,署長謝謝,那我想這個我們當然希望說氣象署是一個很專業的單位那提到專業包含說剛剛說一開始的問題之後後續要跟大家討論了這個氣象署當然升格之後但是啊升格之後本來期待的是這個因為你們是專業單位本來期待經費上來講或者預算上跟人事上能夠提供更多\n\n11\n00:03:47,944 --> 00:04:07,575\n但是在這個氣象署升格之後：過去中央氣象局的時候：法定員額還有957人那現在升格之後：法定員額剩下673人這個署長我想問一下：對於這個升格你有什麼樣的想法：這個升格結果法定員額反而下降：經費變得更少：這個部分你有什麼樣的想法\n\n12\n00:04:10,018 --> 00:04:27,026\n我想這是整個政府主改的大方向希望組織能夠精簡那在過去我們在相關的規定的確是900多人那因為這次在做主改的時候它其實是有一個規定它是依照現有的預算原額來加5%變成這個\n\n13\n00:04:30,348 --> 00:04:34,629\n我是為你報不平畢竟今天氣象署的專案報告你看到下頁同樣都是升格同樣也是在交通部狹下氣象署\n\n14\n00:04:56,474 --> 00:05:17,104\n升個之後這個相對人力變少但是上這個交通部觀光署升個之後他的人力預算增加所以我想這個在預算上面跟人力上面我們還是希望說這個今天提出來之後我們的主管機關能夠給我們這個交通給我們的氣象署更多的人力因為我想這個氣象對於民生問題是非常非常重要\n\n15\n00:05:17,924 --> 00:05:31,370\n對於這個不管農業也好或對於地方首長判斷要不要放假也好那這個當然人力下降之後之前我也提剛剛簡報裡面也有提到說接下來會用用這個所謂的AI的模式來提供更更精確的這個這個這個氣象報告那我想問的是說\n\n16\n00:05:38,294 --> 00:05:49,387\n我們現在這個氣象署有所謂的這個超強電腦在這個氣象署來使用那這個電腦當然目前看起來也是台灣算力最強這個能力最好的電腦那這個電腦啟用之後\n\n17\n00:05:52,831 --> 00:06:17,351\n對於整個氣象模型的規劃對於整個氣象預測來講有沒有比過去更加的提升你人是變少但是你要運用科技來解決這個我們也接受了但是用科技來解決這我想問一下這個署長這個氣象的預測包含說其實說颱風之外我想大家很關注的就平常日常的強降雨對地方政府來講他的這影響可能更強更大我們這個所謂的最強電腦\n\n18\n00:06:18,672 --> 00:06:21,422\n在算的過程裡面有沒有辦法提前預測到這個強降雨的這個狀況\n\n19\n00:06:24,504 --> 00:06:51,366\n是謝謝委員關心這個電腦的確對我們非常非常重要那這也是蘇前院長支持在這前瞻預算裡面能夠加入這個電腦那因為這個電腦正好是去年底完成那目前他的這個計算能量我們講說他在這個中央處理器的部分是10個PETA就是千兆的這個浮點預算另外還有他特別有配備了新式的這個繪圖處理器有兩個這個PETA的FLAP\n\n20\n00:06:54,308 --> 00:07:14,111\n目前在全世界的排名是第69名在我國政府裡面的確是目前最大的電腦這個電腦是混合式的所以我剛剛特別講有CPU加GPU大家現在比較知道的就是GPU的部分特別對於人工智慧相關的預算它會有非常好的效果\n\n21\n00:07:14,531 --> 00:07:42,261\n那當然這裏面相關的預測模式我們在這電腦裏面運行的預測模式並不僅僅是颱風預測模式其實在裏面大概有十幾套的模式在裏面預測好,署長那這個模式這個這個模式的這個怎麼講程式是自己寫的呢還是去參考其他單位就是說這個東西誰算出來的是由我們自己氣象署的過去的模型推算還是說是由其他的這個技術方面來加強\n\n22\n00:07:44,161 --> 00:08:11,623\n目前這個模式其實我們採取的是國際合作的方式那一部分是跟美國政府NOAA來做相關的合作那另外一個有關區域模式的部分是跟美國的這個大氣科學研究中心來做合作因為現在模式已經非常非常複雜以氣象署的團隊而言我們不太有能力來從頭做一個模式可是我們對模式的改善可以做很多區域性的改善所以你們這個錢應該要增加那組長我們聽過這個GraphCast這個東西\n\n23\n00:08:13,664 --> 00:08:30,438\n是這GrabCard去年發布之後我講GoogleDeepMind發布之後他講說他的這個預算模式可以比目前多數的預測90%預測更加準確喔可以提早10天那我想問說我們這所謂最強電腦裡面有沒有納入像這樣子的預算的模式\n\n24\n00:08:31,741 --> 00:08:48,479\n目前因為我們有這個電腦所以去年已經開始評估目前在這個在等於說在科學上有公佈的相關科學論文裡面有提到的是其中之一還有還有好幾個不同相關的這個人工智慧\n\n25\n00:08:49,019 --> 00:09:15,278\n基於這個資料科學的模式目前我們都有在做評估GraphCast它的確它的這個效果還不錯不過我也必須要說明它目前只能夠處理我們稱之為縱觀尺度的天氣現象就是比較大範圍的譬如說冬天的封面像這樣子的系統它其實沒有辦法處理小尺度的現象譬如說像颱風的暴雨那這個部分也就是為什麼我們需要\n\n26\n00:09:15,538 --> 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DeepMind發布之後他講說他的這個預算模式可以比目前多數的預測90%預測更加準確喔可以提早10天那我想問說我們這所謂最強電腦裡面有沒有納入像這樣子的預算的模式\n目前因為我們有這個電腦所以去年已經開始評估目前在這個在等於說在科學上有公佈的相關科學論文裡面有提到的是其中之一還有還有好幾個不同相關的這個人工智慧\n基於這個資料科學的模式目前我們都有在做評估GraphCast它的確它的這個效果還不錯不過我也必須要說明它目前只能夠處理我們稱之為縱觀尺度的天氣現象就是比較大範圍的譬如說冬天的封面像這樣子的系統它其實沒有辦法處理小尺度的現象譬如說像颱風的暴雨那這個部分也就是為什麼我們需要\n好,署長謝謝,謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.055 --> 00:29.749\n好謝謝昭偉那我們是請陳署長請陳署長署長以後有邀請的時候你再上來好不好不要那麼緊張也是第一次站在這邊是好謝謝昭偉謝謝署長黃馬勾一郎來這個先看一張圖片我想要先請教一下署長署長這兩個氣球為什麼不一樣看得到嗎\n\n00:34.251 --> 00:53.020\n看得到然後請問一下這兩個氣球的作用有什麼不一樣下面的看得比較清楚上面比較不太知道下面比較看起來像是就是一般我們這個氣象用的探空氣球因為下面掛了一個探空椅上面那個看不太清楚它上面是什麼樣的上面這當然是\n\n00:54.922 --> 01:17.143\n這個軍事用的氣球啦,這就是說我們想要了解就是說過去這些這段時間我們常常會看到新聞上提到說這個這個中國大陸中共的這些這個可能是疑似這個這個軍事用的偵查氣球會飄過來這個台灣的上空那有的人解釋說這其實氣象氣球那我想要先請教一下氣象署在這個相關的業務上面\n\n01:17.763 --> 01:42.473\n你們是由你們來判斷他是氣象氣球還是軍事氣球這業務上是你們判斷呢還是是國防部來判斷目前對於氣象氣球的偵測其實我們自己是沒有偵測能力的所以目前相關的資料都是國防部通知我們之後我們再來看他是不是氣象的氣球因為氣象氣球他其實不會飄太久也不會飄太遠\n\n01:43.453 --> 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