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\"end\": 569.279, \"score\": 0.996}, {\"word\": \"他\", \"start\": 569.279, \"end\": 569.62, \"score\": 0.908}, {\"word\": \"說\"}, {\"word\": \"明\", \"start\": 569.62, \"end\": 569.64, \"score\": 0.961}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:01,564 --> 00:00:01,925\n林佑昌林部長\n\n2\n00:00:11,809 --> 00:00:34,967\n你好部長好部長今天是首次在內政部內政委員會這邊跟您做請教那也想要問一下您剛剛在這個口頭報告當然說了很多但我想要請教的是書面報告你說的也就口頭報告你沒有說到我想請教書面報告說到你提到了這個警政業務當中其實有一項是保護婦幼人身安全沒有錯吧是\n\n3\n00:00:35,808 --> 00:00:47,856\n在第28月有提到嘛那在這裡面你有說到在112年也就是去年度我們通報的兒少保護案件有15808件脆弱家庭呢有5566件這個脆弱家庭應該是只涵蓋在兒少保護案裡面嘛對不對這裡的用語是這樣好那我就直接請教你請問我們之前日前在講的這個重大的兒孽案件也就是凱凱案哪有沒有在這裡面\n\n4\n00:01:07,209 --> 00:01:08,349\n創業家庭通報有哪些要件\n\n5\n00:01:30,346 --> 00:01:50,523\n應該按照法規規定的話即使他有一定的規定嘛對不對即使是我們看下一頁好不好根據兒少全法的話脆弱家庭有一定的定義那本件就我們現在從新聞上面列舉得知的部長你現在看法規\n\n6\n00:01:53,080 --> 00:02:15,395\n這本件算不算脆弱家庭算吧因為如果以本件我們從假設啦我們假設這個新聞報導的都是確定的的話那麼第一個嘛這個他很有可能他的父親父親的這個部分因為就是有在服役服刑的狀況嘛然後母親的狀況以及祖母家庭經濟狀況\n\n7\n00:02:17,276 --> 00:02:18,137\n為何沒有通報呢?\n\n8\n00:02:33,996 --> 00:02:44,993\n警政部門的通報在勤務中有發現比如說戶口查查啦或者執勤的時候發現要通報給主管機關這個主管機關是在地方來講是社會局\n\n9\n00:02:50,140 --> 00:03:12,971\n是所以在這個地方我們這個額略的案件其實現在已經有兩大主管部門嘛一個等於是內政部這邊在警政知道的這狀況之下其實你們是知悉嘛或者是受到通報的時候你們等於是有點被動接受當然你們在訪查的時候在任何狀況下看到的時候其實你們根據額少全法你們也是義務通報人之一啦\n\n10\n00:03:30,478 --> 00:03:49,252\n你現在判讀法規我剛剛請你判讀的是依照這個法規按照權法來講這個案件本身應該是脆弱家庭應該沒有問題嘛對不對好可是我們再根據後面的狀況來看的話其實脆弱家庭當社政單位窒息之後其實也會通知回內政部對嗎這句話對嗎\n\n11\n00:03:53,220 --> 00:04:09,929\n因為你們其實也有欸你們其實每年在內政部每年在行政院提報的施政計畫當中也公佈在內政部的網站施政計畫當中會說為了保護婦幼兒少安全落實脆弱家庭通報其實也在內政部我是請內部長\n\n12\n00:04:11,610 --> 00:04:11,750\n蘇巧慧\n\n13\n00:04:29,870 --> 00:04:48,490\n出獄家庭之兒童及少年通報協詢及資料收集處理利用辦法當然他是在這個衛福部的社會及家庭目下面他是根據兒少全法規定的可是他在這個根據下面的定義以及\n\n14\n00:04:49,671 --> 00:04:52,673\n我們警政單位通報回到我們這邊一個聯繫就是我們警察是提供比如說他在有人身安全保護上面需要\n\n15\n00:05:16,630 --> 00:05:31,308\n那至於那個個案以及家庭的一個支持這部分應該是回歸到其實部長我今天要請教你的就是通報的部分啦通報的部分好那我現在問你如果民眾發現有孽兒事件的話他是打110還是113\n\n16\n00:05:34,375 --> 00:05:59,960\n按照政府的規定現在最希望是打113啦對不對但是邀動也可以接啦只是他又要通報回社政系統嘛對不對好我今天為什麼跟您請教這個其實因為我上一屆四年都在未還我們處理社政系統很多但是我必須說我們看到社會的真實面向上面就是大家發現有這種案件的時候第一個想到的還是打電話給警察啦\n\n17\n00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:26,877\n老實講就是這樣啦第一線還是打電話給警察好那他就會變成剛剛說未報案的有報案的那有報案的警察接到了之後緊急的他會立即聯繫社工然後做後面評估然後如果要馬上出動其實也是要拜託警政系統的警察然後他就變成是一個重大案件等等就下去了嘛那如果不急的話警政單位接到了通報之後也是要做成紀錄並且通報社政單位然後讓社政去處理\n\n18\n00:06:27,517 --> 00:06:47,805\n在外面如果又有需要再回過頭來又是到警政所以可見呢這樣的一個兒女案件裡面其實社政跟警政是密不可分的啊我這句話部長你同意嗎社政跟警政對兒女案件是密不可分的是當然沒錯吧因為剛剛在講我們最重要就是要提供人身的一個安全的保護\n\n19\n00:06:48,865 --> 00:07:04,232\n是在第一你會在接收通報的時候出現第二在遇有緊急狀況的時候你必須協同社工一起去嘛第三甚至是在事後在必要的時候你在收集案件證據等等的時候資料選取的資料協處的時候警政也會發生也會發揮非常大的功能這點也沒錯吧\n\n20\n00:07:10,175 --> 00:07:31,721\n如果有需要修正的部分有需要修正的部分嗎?當它變成重大案件需要修正的時候了?對,我們會來協助好,那可是其實在本件啊據我們在網路上面看到有一個是有一個網友他說我這個案件啊我知道可能是本件相關的額內的哭聲影片他打電話到110告知了此事那得到的回覆是什麼?\n\n21\n00:07:32,401 --> 00:07:44,620\n他是這樣說的啦我不知道是不是真實但是網友得到的回覆是請你將此案件送到地檢署長首長信箱到時候如果需要影片會再跟他聯繫你覺得這個打法對嗎\n\n22\n00:07:48,305 --> 00:08:11,073\n我想這個是明顯不妥的可能不妥吧應該是不妥吧因為警政機關就有一段文字他說請民眾勇於發揮饑婆好鄰居關鍵路人假的角色發現需要的弱勢錯誤家庭結案案件更適時通報110和113所以你剛剛的那個資料可以提供給我們可以進一步查證好我要說的是這樣子啦其實我覺得這個\n\n23\n00:08:12,333 --> 00:08:15,335\n我今天在這裡的時候我其實是想跟警政署和內政部警政署這邊說其實警察同仁真的非常辛苦\n\n24\n00:08:34,887 --> 00:08:54,486\n因為我們上一屆在未來的時候深深知道所有的人所有案件都丟到警察這邊去而且你看他剛剛有三個階段其實你們也已經做了很多所以我主張的是如果有做的警政機關應該要把警察做的拿出來告訴大家其實我們做了這麼多你的辛苦要讓國民知道\n\n25\n00:08:55,106 --> 00:08:55,126\n謝謝委員\n\n26\n00:09:24,572 --> 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