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00:00:12,015\n大家好謝謝主席本席請林部長好有請林部長謝謝部長剛剛徐宇貞委員有詢問到數位身份證的問題那本席要再次確認所以現在我們內政部是決定不推了還是您說的暫緩\n\n2\n00:00:33,448 --> 00:00:37,857\n不是內政部決定這個是行政院的政策暫緩那現在是暫緩的過程有沒有任何的努力\n\n3\n00:00:45,891 --> 00:00:48,893\n徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩徐欣瑩\n\n4\n00:01:23,561 --> 00:01:23,821\n徐欣瑩\n\n5\n00:01:54,396 --> 00:01:58,020\n目前已經有使用數位身份證晶片的國家就有82%預計到2021年底\n\n6\n00:02:15,796 --> 00:02:16,296\n等下我先講﹖\n\n7\n00:02:41,603 --> 00:03:01,997\n執政無能,結果民眾有疑慮台灣的科技不輸人我們是科技出身台灣的科技不輸人為什麼世界各國都可以用了我們台灣不行這就表示我們台灣的政府現在的執政黨就是無能然後這個執政無能浪費公帑\n\n8\n00:03:02,817 --> 00:03:23,488\n那現在又沒有任何期程你內政部長講不出來我們接下來我們暫停暫緩有餘率暫緩可以我們應該加速啊我們應該加速我在科技上我們來讓民眾可以認同還有我們科技我們在資安上來加強世界各國做得到\n\n9\n00:03:24,028 --> 00:03:52,461\n台灣政府做不到這就是一個大笑話所以本席希望我們內政部竟然是尤其護政司嘛這個身份證就是護政司我們應該要盡快的您在行政院院會也要提出來甚至行政院每給期程你都應該要給出期程你都應該要求我們要有期程現在暫停暫停了那麼久怎麼可能每年我還一直在養機器\n\n10\n00:03:53,661 --> 00:04:08,605\n等你到你真正要用的時候我機器又要重新開換了因為又過了現在已經過那麼多年了所以我們對這件事非常在意那我們全民對於這樣的一個花費沒有成果也非常在意\n\n11\n00:04:09,886 --> 00:04:34,180\n我可以先向全國人民道歉你欠全國人民一個道歉這個不管你的賠償給這個中央印製局到底合不合理或者是你過去的花費有任何的理由我們現在花了那麼多錢都沒有這個成果而且還一直拖延我們希望今天質詢之後那可以加速進行\n\n12\n00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:53,314\n世界各國可以我們臺灣一定可以臺灣的科技一定領先全世界謝謝委員謝謝你的指教不過這個資訊上可能有一些落差第一個剛剛在講82%它並不是全部都是數位身份證它是數位證件包括像這個數位晶片\n\n13\n00:04:56,736 --> 00:04:57,117\n政府﹖\n\n14\n00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,121\n我們部已經出去現在正在國發會\n\n15\n00:05:41,442 --> 00:05:41,602\n徐欣瑩\n\n16\n00:06:00,305 --> 00:06:23,909\n部長、署長我想請教兩位你們知不知道我們縣市的基層警員有多重身份部長您還做過市長基隆市長我們現在的基層警員非常的辛苦他們多重身份他要取締噪音的汽機車列入縣校檢討所以我們的警察呢成為了\n\n17\n00:06:24,569 --> 00:06:40,175\n環保的稽查人員環保局的稽查人員這第一個第二個天氣冷要宣導防範寒流天氣熱要宣導那個小心中暑所以還要跟民眾合照宣導期還要每天回報建樹\n\n18\n00:06:41,175 --> 00:06:41,315\n徐欣瑩徐欣瑩\n\n19\n00:07:04,420 --> 00:07:13,402\n派出所還成為司法文書掛號性的免費存放地所以我們的警察還要變成郵局的員工\n\n20\n00:07:14,892 --> 00:07:14,932\n徐欣瑩\n\n21\n00:07:37,415 --> 00:07:54,606\n提取他們的辛勞爭取福利還增加這麼多非本業的工作所以可不可以請警政署回去盤點所有派出所的非警勤務提出具體的改進作為一個月內送本院內政委員會\n\n22\n00:07:56,581 --> 00:08:12,450\n委員其實這也是回應民意的期待很多民意代表反映所以警察才有這麼多的工作所以您知道嘛所以是不是可以回去檢討而且一個月內送給我們內政委員會是當然沒有問題不過這裡面委員列的其實也有一些是法定的我們的工作\n\n23\n00:08:13,371 --> 00:08:14,151\n主席我最後一題\n\n24\n00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:47,323\n那這個借街好像海巡署提出因為我們查緝販毒你從港口查到陸地那到了市區我們要借街這個車牌辨識系統好像警政署一個海巡署一個警政署署長為難署長那這個情況是怎麼回事\n\n25\n00:08:52,588 --> 00:09:19,107\n跟委員報告我想警政署各縣市政府所建置這個車牌辨識系統附加在現在就是要跟海巡署借接的情況為什麼我們警政署有意見大家共同打擊犯罪所以我們請海巡署在請函給那個主管機關做函式如果函式沒有問題就是各自沒有問題的話那本席就說了\n\n26\n00:09:22,930 --> 00:09:45,049\n這個韓市從去年的10月向李警政署正式申請一直都還沒有得到回覆到上個禮拜五傍晚本席這邊關切各支法的主管叫國發會要國發會他們解釋說OK沒問題那就可以來後續推動\n\n27\n00:09:47,523 --> 00:10:13,654\n所以你們警政署完全可以配合這個還有一個問題我補充一下因為這個建制是縣市政府警察局所建制的所以還要在縣市政府這邊這一關在普遍同意以後這個問題就沒有問題了那你們警政署就應該整合啊我覺得委員的質詢是有道理的我覺得署長跟其他的國發會也好地方政府也好你們應該趕快嫁接起來\n\n28\n00:10:15,435 --> 00:10:15,595\n請聽主席講完\n\n29\n00:10:40,563 --> 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