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00:01:12,496\n因為其實像今天的話大家許多委員區都關心著氣候變遷的問題那這個問題其實我相信不僅是在我們氣象署大家是非常熟悉也非常重視包括次長那您也是成大我的母校橫泰系的教授那您也在民航局當局長那所以您對於氣候變遷也一定是非常的重視\n\n4\n00:01:13,436 --> 00:01:41,417\n那在這一次上個禮拜的時候我們交通委員會我跟何新淳委員也跟著副院長來去參加APPU還這一次的會議那討論的議題還是在於有關於氣候變遷那在目前來講中央氣象署我記得在1991年到2002年他其實平均每年有25.3的這個颱風那會清台的大概會有3.2但是呢\n\n5\n00:01:41,997 --> 00:02:03,602\n就如剛才林培祥委員所講的單日降雨量在這5年來是不斷的增加所以說包括一些旱災或是農損其實在近年來的話是一發嚴重那同樣的在這10年平均氣溫也上升了1.6度推估在本世紀末夏季的長度將會增加到150天左右冬季有可能會縮短到20到40天內\n\n6\n00:02:05,442 --> 00:02:27,971\n所以說在這個氣候變遷造成的影響是非常嚴重那接著叫做救教那在2023年10月5號那行政院核定了災害防救基本計畫有關於氣象的部分三大方針想請教次長那這個部分的話行政院核定了三大方針那您可不可以稍微做一下說明我是請署長好我們先請署長\n\n7\n00:02:29,705 --> 00:02:43,051\n我們是在這災害防救基本計畫策略2.1裡面特別對於未來氣象署怎麼樣去面對災害防救的相關的作為有三個部分第一個部分是加強我們監測系統觀測系統的量能希望能夠掌握現在的狀況\n\n8\n00:02:48,453 --> 00:02:58,726\n第二個部分是強化我們相關的預報的作為那裡面包含我們的模式解析度的提升以及我們在作業上面怎麼樣去產出相關的災害相關的預警的訊息\n\n9\n00:03:03,732 --> 00:03:28,995\n第三個部份是加強我們的互動的互相的溝通就是跟民間以及跟我們的相關的政府相關的單位怎麼去加強相關的資訊的溝通和傳播三個方向謝謝署長那您講的部分是針對氣象署的部分那在行政院的版本它主要三大方針在災害調適、數位轉型及強韌復原三大方針來講它有許多的項目那其中氣象署是其中之一\n\n10\n00:03:29,736 --> 00:03:57,071\n那我想問一下在APP我們在提了也提了三個的一個草案那當然說這一次的出訪、出團其實也對我們的國會外交也有一個非常好的一個成果那江啟臣副院長帶隊這一次有很好的成果也是第一次的實體外交那我想就教一下就是說像目前來講國際災害的部分那因為我們其實在國際的外交是處於一個比較弱勢的一個情況之下那相關的通知的機制\n\n11\n00:03:57,852 --> 00:04:01,530\n目前氣象署跟其他國家有做一個直接的聯繫平台嗎?\n\n12\n00:04:03,540 --> 00:04:31,339\n有關國際聯繫的部分我們大概分成其實氣象和地震都有在氣象的部分其實特別針對颱風其實在太平洋這邊有一個聯合颱風警報中心那這個部分是在整個太平洋的這個區域裡面如果有颱風發生他們也會提供相關的訊息另外還有一個海嘯的警報中心那海嘯警報中心如果有發生地震引發海嘯的部分那也會國際聯繫\n\n13\n00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:42,847\n那謝謝署長那我接著要請問那他是會通知直接通知氣象署還是會通知環境部的氣候變遷署\n\n14\n00:04:45,720 --> 00:05:02,293\n因為這個是作業面的所以他會直接通知氣象署那所以啊那我想問一下在今天的這個質詢的時候那我想問一下就是那氣候變遷署大家今天討論那麼多的議題那氣候變遷署今天有人來嗎?\n\n15\n00:05:05,816 --> 00:05:22,637\n好沒關係目前的這個交通委員會這次的名單上那其實是沒有氣候變遷屬那所以說我們現在凸顯到一個問題就是說在機關的部分其實一直以來大家在氣象觀測都非常的仰賴仰中氣象署的一個報導\n\n16\n00:05:23,658 --> 00:05:46,586\n那我想要請教一下次長那現在來講在環境部他是新設的這個氣候變遷署但是他有讓我們大家感受到這個疊床架屋的這個問題因為氣象署他是直接讓大家去做預報可是在這個氣候變遷署他是針對這個氣候的部分他在做研究包括不然減能減碳或是排碳或者是說氣候變遷以及在國際上的連結\n\n17\n00:05:47,586 --> 00:06:03,119\n那這個部分怎麼樣可以讓這個氣候變遷署的這些業務跟我們交通部的氣象署能夠去做有效連結那它是不是跌闖駕霧包委員這個其實很重要但是政府之間的工作其實有分工的\n\n18\n00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:30,351\n氣象署本身跟氣候變遷署會有聯繫因為氣候變遷署剛成立蔡署長我在民航局長任內也帶同仁去跟他做過交流就航空方面的減塵減碳跟氣候變遷的部分跟他做交通所以基本上蔡署長那邊是掌握全國各個企業跟各個部會的作業氣象署或是其他部門也各有各的資訊提供\n\n19\n00:06:32,112 --> 00:07:00,086\n所以這中間倒是多互動然後其實我相信一定有互動但是因為在這個民眾我們所第一線的其實還是在於氣候的薄包那包括了第6代的這個儀器其實相信這個超級電腦一定也可以民眾感受是氣象是有的但是在本期在這還是要提出就是說在這個氣候變遷署他是要因應這個全球暖化可是在交通部其實一直以來是主管著氣象\n\n20\n00:07:00,706 --> 00:07:29,203\n那所以說在這個部分的話其實他節省價物跟他的平行聯繫上確實會有落差就以今天的委員會為例來講那確實來講那討論那麼多氣候變遷那實際上去交代氣象署但是那個氣候變遷署他其實完完全全是置身事外的那我也坦白講如果說未來像這樣子的一個不管是研究也好那如何能夠再銜接在氣象署我相信這個交通部這邊可能還要再跟黃金部這邊溝通\n\n21\n00:07:30,323 --> 00:07:58,044\n謝謝委員因為氣象的部分畢竟有些是micro有些是macro那那個scale氣候變遷署會相對大一點時間尺度也比較長沒關係但是還是第一線會影響到對還是要多互動因為有些資訊要交流好那沒關係就加強這個機制那再來我想接著請教一下TASA國家太空中心那目前他的委員相關的部分是哪幾個委員其中有沒有包含交通部部長\n\n22\n00:07:59,724 --> 00:08:13,689\n我個人是董事之一但是因為剛上任還沒有開過會所以基本上交通部有引爆那太空中心會跨相關的領域部門好那沒關係我就簡短的提就是說\n\n23\n00:08:14,389 --> 00:08:35,778\n因為目前來講氣象署其實是非常的用心但是在這個氣象衛星的研發人員目前是全部委外那在目前來講這個國家太空中心啊那其實在這個衛星的這個研發或是在集合在氣象的這個監測上我覺得確實要重視到交通部包括氣象署的一些專業\n\n24\n00:08:36,798 --> 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