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00:02:14,294\n我覺得只要這個商品充分告知客戶這個資訊也了解客戶的屬性我覺得這就是我覺得這沒有什麼特別要去所謂大家關心會打壓的問題不會好謝謝主委我要請嚴副總裁的就是說剛剛有講到大概一個是500多億一個是大概有1700億所以至少會有2200億\n\n7\n00:02:16,636 --> 00:02:30,601\n的資金進入臺灣的市場那麼過去其實我們都一直擔憂就是國內投資性的商品不夠以至於就會來做房市那麼今天我們的題目也就講過了希望他們避免炒房那麼問題是很多人在質疑為什麼會突然間兩黨號稱高息的ETF進入市場之後大家好像錢都掏出來了\n\n8\n00:02:44,085 --> 00:03:00,612\n是不是過去因為利息過低的關係以至於大家甚至於有出現有人解定存又或者是去用房子去借貸然後換取更多的這個可運用的資金來賺這個利息之間的差價那麼央行有這樣的疑慮嗎或央行聽到這樣的說法嗎\n\n9\n00:03:08,551 --> 00:03:32,014\n報告委員因為您提的這個臺灣資金的這種長期的剩餘問題其實也跟我們過去以來的超額儲蓄或者是經常算順差有很大的關係在面臨這種情況之下其實我們一直在鼓勵我們賺到那麼多錢要充分的對外投資對內投資這是我們過去堅持的一個看法好\n\n10\n00:03:32,776 --> 00:03:51,558\n副總裁我的言下之意就是說這2200億至少進入了我們的市場之後當然剛剛主委所說的是沒有好或壞只要是一個正確的投資管道訊息明確揭露讓投資人知道他是一個投資不是一個投機都好\n\n11\n00:03:52,119 --> 00:04:12,050\n但是他是不是也面對了我們所謂因為過去的整體銀行的利率過低以至於大家突然間覺得哇如果真的有所謂年化利率10%哇那這樣子真的要趕快來解定存或者是趕快用房貸多押一點出來做投資這個是不是央行必須要去思考的問題呢\n\n12\n00:04:14,332 --> 00:04:38,900\n我想我們在做利率政策的時候我們當然會考慮到當前的那個國內的流動性的問題剛才我的資料已經顯示就是說我們從銀行的角度去看到流動性其實銀行我們對銀行的觀察或者是我們自己觀察到的流動性其實是沒有想像中的那麼的嚴重譬如說我們的M2已經開始下降蠻多了\n\n13\n00:04:41,135 --> 00:04:57,082\n我感覺上這個總裁並沒有真的回復我的問題不過沒有關係也許會後我請這個昭緯再幫我來追一下但是我想要因為現在變成外委員會時間有限要請主委主委剛剛其實蠻多前面的這些立法院同仁都已經問了\n\n14\n00:04:58,843 --> 00:05:19,534\n其實我比較在乎的就是您在第11頁也明確的寫到很多的委員都問到了就是有關於財經網紅透過付費方式來進行置入而你也提到了11月3號113年是今年的6月底前會完成這個所謂的自律規範是交由工會來做\n\n15\n00:05:20,635 --> 00:05:47,141\n那麼公會在訂定這樣的規範的時候是他們自家人自己關起門來訂定嗎還是會有專業的人士我舉一個例子您先聽聽看再來回應我現在很多網紅的行銷方式其實大略有兩種一種是他是知識型的網紅他幫你來做研析解析他會提到各種不一樣的金融商品如何的狀況如何的投資另外一種\n\n16\n00:05:47,881 --> 00:05:52,823\n他不是知識型的網紅他就是一個網紅他可能講生活講娛樂講旅遊但是他突然間會有個插播的廣告進來然後他告訴你說有現在這樣的商品要開賣你用我底下的連結可以省手續費或是可以有什麼揭滅有什麼優惠嘛那這兩者之間我現在做這樣的形容主委你覺得哪一個妥當哪一個不妥\n\n17\n00:06:16,314 --> 00:06:36,351\n但是這個樣態都是叫做知識型都是叫做網紅都是經濟網紅喔它也可能都是網紅行銷喔可是樣態就不一樣了喔您理解我的意思嗎我了解我們在做規範的時候又會很細緻不可以一竿子把所有的都過為一類特別也會請教了解網紅生態的專家一起去討論\n\n18\n00:06:40,475 --> 00:06:58,623\n好那麼我會期待說在這樣的一個規範出來之前我們不要一竿子打翻全傳人但是呢必須在這個樣態的細緻上面要有所區分因為本期過去非常在乎的就是有關於這個網路的行銷面過去我們都知道電視台是連一個個股去講解\n\n19\n00:06:59,423 --> 00:07:14,336\n或是任何一支商品去講解那都要罰大錢的但是因為網路本身因為法規不足的關係那麼如何杜絕然後再來我也期許金管會要利用這個機會大家既然有興趣要發動全民的金融科普\n\n20\n00:07:15,418 --> 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