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00:02:00,782\n以及這個地方提出的這個檢討的這個改善的措施是否可以執行?我想因為事情演變到今天其實我覺得不管是中央或者地方甚至於在所謂的我們認可的這些兒福的機構\n\n7\n00:02:01,722 --> 00:02:01,842\n對我來說啦\n\n8\n00:02:18,158 --> 00:02:36,045\n這個重大的決定就像是自廢武功是一樣的一個道理那當然必須經過所謂的主管機關許可的財團法人公私立兒童以及少年安置的一個教養機構當然這樣子的一個用意其實就是為了怕私下的所謂的這個收養、出養\n\n9\n00:02:36,792 --> 00:02:37,052\n主席\n\n10\n00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:06,323\n對,其實我們整個8家那這些都會再進一步來做一些檢討,包括這個許可的辦法,我們也必須要做檢討。\n\n11\n00:03:07,449 --> 00:03:31,000\n所謂的檢討是什麼?有沒有一個具體的一個方案?因為其實我覺得大家想要看的是這個部分因為有太多太多捐款人他們的愛心其實真的被辜負了我們必須老實的說對這8家的話我們應該要去做一些業務上面的要求比如說他的這個員工薪資他的這個訪視的機制\n\n12\n00:03:33,501 --> 00:03:57,462\n包括說他去判斷出洋的必要性等等當然未來出洋必要性就不會在這裡了那今天是因為時間的關係我快速的其實在目前為止我們知道所有的這個因為這次的這個案件凱凱他渾身上下其實我們看到的他幾乎已經是被虐殺的一個狀況\n\n13\n00:03:58,413 --> 00:04:09,387\n其實大家都非常的不忍喔那當然其實我們也暫緩了這次這個額富聯盟他的一個業務那這個暫緩之後我們的政府怎麼補上呢怎麼補救呢\n\n14\n00:04:11,515 --> 00:04:28,687\n目前是新收的先暫停接下來的話我們可能就要去了解說他的這個基金會本身在內部的話那對於這些社工的教育訓練還有薪資條件等等這些的話到底是不是適合\n\n15\n00:04:29,848 --> 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--> 00:14.808\n主席好有請部長辛苦了好來部長請\n\n00:20.288 --> 00:40.414\n部長好我想這次的這個事件其實造成臺灣社會很大的一個震撼尤其是當過媽媽的其實我自己也非常非常難過那也感到痛心那在這裡其實我想要先請教一下部長到底當這個個案他在12月24號死亡\n\n00:41.394 --> 00:41.534\n委員會主席\n\n00:53.567 --> 01:13.985\n如果依照現行的規定是這樣子那第一個地方社會局必須要向中央來做通報這個有做他們在什麼時候通報的?應該25號但是第二個要做的就是地方就必須判斷他是重大\n\n01:14.845 --> 01:41.955\n而那事件的時候他就要召開檢討會議在10天之內要召開召開之後有了這個會議的結論的話兩個禮拜之內要送到中央來中央的話會看他的這個檢討會議的記錄來評估說有沒有必要再找地方政府過來做更詳細的說明他釐清這個案情的來龍去脈\n\n01:43.535 --> 02:00.782\n以及這個地方提出的這個檢討的這個改善的措施是否可以執行?我想因為事情演變到今天其實我覺得不管是中央或者地方甚至於在所謂的我們認可的這些兒福的機構\n\n02:01.722 --> 02:01.842\n對我來說啦\n\n02:18.158 --> 02:36.045\n這個重大的決定就像是自廢武功是一樣的一個道理那當然必須經過所謂的主管機關許可的財團法人公私立兒童以及少年安置的一個教養機構當然這樣子的一個用意其實就是為了怕私下的所謂的這個收養、出養\n\n02:36.792 --> 02:37.052\n主席\n\n02:58.050 --> 03:06.323\n對,其實我們整個8家那這些都會再進一步來做一些檢討,包括這個許可的辦法,我們也必須要做檢討。\n\n03:07.449 --> 03:31.000\n所謂的檢討是什麼?有沒有一個具體的一個方案?因為其實我覺得大家想要看的是這個部分因為有太多太多捐款人他們的愛心其實真的被辜負了我們必須老實的說對這8家的話我們應該要去做一些業務上面的要求比如說他的這個員工薪資他的這個訪視的機制\n\n03:33.501 --> 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