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況嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：現在的物價如果比起去年度來講的話，我們的物價是有在下降，但是1月份的時候下降的比較多，2月份會上來。委員，我跟你報告，都是跟去年同期比，去年的春節剛好在1月，今年的1月沒有春節，所以今年的物價就低一點，今年的2月上漲因為剛好去年不在春節，所以如果兩個合在一起大概是2%左右。"],["廖委員偉翔：所以您的感覺跟我們民生的感覺是差蠻遠的，非常多東西，尤其民生的東西都在漲，從12月的17項重要民生物價指數來看，從12月開始到現在2月都是在漲的狀況，從110.82漲到現在2月份111.09，所以我們從這個民生物價指數就看得出來是有在漲的。想要問院長，本週五經濟部召開電價審議的時候，外傳4月的電價一度會漲破8元，是否有確定漲價？"],["陳院長建仁：這個當然要讓審議委員會決定，不是我們在這裡可以決定的。"],["廖委員偉翔：所以我最後想要請你不要溫柔堅定的漲老百姓的電價，要拜託院長苦民所苦。"],["陳院長建仁：我們會很精細的調整。"],["主席：謝謝廖委員偉翔的質詢，也謝謝陳院長的備詢。","接下來我們請登記第2號陳委員俊宇質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":156,"meet_id":"院會-11-1-5","speakers":["韓國瑜","邱志偉","陳冠廷","王鴻薇","林德福","吳春城","鍾佳濱","葛如鈞","麥玉珍","葉元之","張嘉郡","范雲","陳秀寳","林倩綺","鄭正鈐","張雅琳","王美惠","廖偉翔","陳俊宇","林憶君","邱鎮軍"],"page_start":67,"meetingDate":["2024-03-19"],"gazette_id":"1131001","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1131001_00003"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第1會期第5次會議紀錄","content":"施政質詢\n對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢─ 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00:02:38,881\n感謝院長。所以現在基本上已經有兩個方案嘛。現在台中市政府也有專業的解決方案。首先第一個當然是我們的漢祥路延伸。從我們環中路延伸到東大路。那另外一個是福林路的延伸開闢工程。那這兩個\n\n9\n00:02:40,503 --> 00:02:40,543\n﹚廖偉翔﹚\n\n10\n00:02:56,050 --> 00:03:15,022\n自己有6成以上的規模要負擔46億5千多萬5千4百萬在另外一件總經費也就是福林路的延伸有24億的工程裡面也是要臺東市政府也是要支出超過7成大概是17億6千3百多萬所以我在這邊想要拜託和提醒我們院長\n\n11\n00:03:15,865 --> 00:03:31,068\n因為今天中央設置的科學園區這是地方配合中央的科技產業政策但是它同樣的也會造成我們地方的交通、環保、醫療等等的問題所以讓民眾的生活成本增加\n\n12\n00:03:31,969 --> 00:04:00,954\n那再來就是如果不趕快核定的話未來這個原物料上漲的可能性他可能會讓工程費越來越高對不對對沒有錯所以我想要在這個觀念裡面要拜託我們的院長這些道路工程的完成未來是大家共享的共用的不分藍綠的所以要希望我們院長可不可以專案協調有沒有任何能夠讓這兩條道路趕快進速推動成功的方法還有包含經費的部分希望不管是我們交通部\n\n13\n00:04:01,694 --> 00:04:18,511\n內政部或者經濟部或者國科會等等大家可以被眾志成城看有沒有可能走專案行政院的公共計畫建設或者是前瞻計畫經費或是公務預算的挹注或等等任何相關的可能性包含國科會是不是也可以負擔起建設的責任\n\n14\n00:04:19,512 --> 00:04:44,615\n因為現在這個部分這個臺中市政府的負擔都大概將近7成是有點偏高當然我知道這個用地費因為用地費也比較高不過因為它是在科學園區附近所以也懇請院長可不可以跨部會的來協調想辦法多補助我們地方我們希望最好是不是可以專案補助到7成中央補助到7成畢竟它還是一個這個我們國家很重要的產業政策\n\n15\n00:04:45,316 --> 00:04:55,852\n所以也希望最後可不可以落實到這個地方政府有經費民生交通可以順暢然後我們科學園區範圍也可以擴大的三贏的局面很希望在這裡懇請我們的院長\n\n16\n00:04:59,525 --> 00:05:23,441\n市長,我想中央跟地方來一起討論,然後看怎麼樣來申請這個計畫。那你講得很好,就是說漢祥路以及這個福林路,這個本來就是地方政府應該要來建設的,所以他可以申請這個生活圈的道路交通系統建設計畫的方案。當然補助的金額會比較少,最高就只有3.5億,所以您也指出來了。\n\n17\n00:05:25,282 --> 00:05:25,502\n﹚廖偉翔\n\n18\n00:05:53,288 --> 00:05:53,608\n﹖廖偉翔﹖\n\n19\n00:06:21,209 --> 00:06:23,432\n祝我們請國科會來研議。今天下午他不在。\n\n20\n00:06:39,841 --> 00:07:00,672\n再來就是有關我們臺中捷運藍線也特別感謝我們中央願意聽到我們臺中的聲音所以這個綜合規劃通過但是也有幾點爭議要確定釐清因為上一次您到沙鹿車站會刊的時候也有相關的人員尤其是這個執政黨的民意代表也提出一些疑點疑慮等等的\n\n21\n00:07:01,132 --> 00:07:12,902\n但是最後我們看到我們行政院合定的版本大概跟一年前台中市的版本是相差無幾啊我只是想要再一次確認現在院長這個行政院合定通過後是不是我們代表說我們的疑慮已經釐清\n\n22\n00:07:15,503 --> 00:07:19,186\n好謝謝謝謝院長所以對我要講也是這個基本上現在通過了我們就是說現在的版本應該是已經沒有爭議了嘛\n\n23\n00:07:41,044 --> 00:08:05,425\n那我們就是希望說臺中現在是臺灣第二大的都市希望未來我們各個捷運可以加速審查加速的核定那另外有我們看到臺中市的藍線地方負擔的比例將近六成相對我們高雄市在黃線還有他們的這個零元線的部分都只負擔了四成那中央補助的六成在我們臺中是恰恰相反的\n\n24\n00:08:05,987 --> 00:08:22,063\n那我是說您應該會講說按照遊戲規則啊臺中的財政等級比較高所以負擔費用比例不一樣等等的但是我們從結論來看這個臺中是要自行負擔六成那這樣子的規則不就是在懲罰好學生我覺得這樣子想法是蠻奇怪的\n\n25\n00:08:22,603 --> 00:08:39,729\n所以很希望未來在預算的補助比例上中央是不是也可以思考各個城市的發展跟它定位。所以要再拜託院長在這個部分是不是也可以再次的想辦法用專案補助的方式來增加我們的捷運藍線的補助的費用。\n\n26\n00:08:42,390 --> 00:09:11,365\n我想全國各地都在建這個捷運那跟剛才的園區的發展不太一樣園區發展還有國科會那這一個在這個捷運的建設的經費實際上我們分成兩塊一個是自償性的部分一個是非自償性的部分那政府補助的是非自償性的部分那非自償性的部分就按照他是財政二級或三級台中市政府因為是二級嘛所以就補助的比較少\n\n27\n00:09:12,005 --> 00:09:13,126\n謝謝,要拜託院長再幫我們多找一些財源,增加我們的補助的費用,好不好?\n\n28\n00:09:40,149 --> 00:10:04,962\n另外就我所知藍線綜合規劃到從交通部到我們行政院整個核定也審查也差九個多月但是因為單單一條捷運現在只有綠線在台中所以它這個網絡沒有起來運量也很難提升那台中還有其他的捷運線也同時在辦理請問院長你是否知道台灣的國際機場裡面唯一沒有連外軌道的是哪一個\n\n29\n00:10:06,822 --> 00:10:25,191\n臺中嗎?沒錯,就是臺中。所以我們臺中的捷運局線,這個機場的捷運局線的必要性跟重要性就在此。那特別是去年你們行政院也通過了2040年要在臺中國際機場在興建第三航廈,所以代表未來我們這邊的運量也會變得很多。\n\n30\n00:10:25,851 --> 00:10:39,925\n那如果沒有便捷的大眾運輸我想周邊的交通也會是一場災難所以本席是希望中央可以儘速來審議通過局限的可行性研究也協助臺中儘速推動後續的綜合規劃讓臺中的這個捷運網絡早日形成\n\n31\n00:10:42,768 --> 00:11:10,836\n才可以治標又治本因為臺中也是第二大都市人口已經要破285萬要拜託這個部長和院長來幫我們來推動這件事情好嗎?臺中捷運那個局限的這一個部分實際上可信性評估已經送上來可是我們審查完了以後有一些意見送回去到已經送回去到這個臺中市政府那我也希望臺中市政府要加速不要像南線一樣送回去以後耽擱了比較長的時間\n\n32\n00:11:12,316 --> 00:11:41,289\n那我這邊也要拜託我們的院長部長等下跟我講的也有關未來藍線的基本設計的部分也有很多這個跟我們各個局處有借接的一些界面所以是希望說請主委還有院長和部長可不可以答應我們台中的鄉親就是在審查的時候發揮你們專業角色和你們協助地方的高度我想千萬不要就是綜合規劃過了但是後續有很多的審查卻卡在來來回回\n\n33\n00:11:41,949 --> 00:11:55,605\n那我要講的意思就是說可不可以就是大家更完善一點一次性的你們中央有什麼需求就地方上要修改的一次性的一次改一次搞定不要來來回回因為每次來來回回又拖了好幾個月可以答應嗎\n\n34\n00:11:57,026 --> 00:12:24,802\n這一個部分就是委員你已經提到說為什麼南線會需要一點時間來把它合訂就是因為當時確實在整個工程設計上專業上是需要有專業的考量那我們也很高興說臺中市政府總算願意崇尚如流但是這個未來在工程的面上如果有需要跟鐵路局、公路局或者是高空局一起來合作的部分\n\n35\n00:12:25,402 --> 00:12:53,957\n那地方政府在設計﹖我想院長剛剛講崇善如柳我不是很贊同但是因為時間的關係我希望我們這幾個臺中的聲音和鄉親的需求您可以聽到因為過去的事情您現在用崇善如柳好像又在要打臺中的一把掌我的意思就是說該改善的部分還有來改善這樣的重大建設是我想都是人民的福祉我想這個中央地方可以一心協力的\n\n36\n00:12:55,017 --> 00:13:17,643\n同樣的精神,同樣的精神,如果專業上需要我們中央來協助的話,就不要客氣嘛,你就地方政府提出要求,不要說自己那個組織在那邊。所以我們現在很希望就是代表台中鄉親的聲音,希望我們這幾條,尤其是藍線可以盡速的動工和挽共,因為10年其實台中鄉親也等不了。\n\n37\n00:13:18,612 --> 00:13:31,890\n那再來就是也在未來的這個就是像吳主委吳主委您過去這兩週來在交通委員會你也自詡你是勤力勤為那大家其實也感覺你像是老中一樣會到處這個巡迴去議診幫忙把脈\n\n38\n00:13:33,812 --> 00:13:48,344\n那就是要落實這個中央地方一條心所以在未來的終結這個捷運的工程上請工程會也緊密跟地方站在一起好不好讓審查階段有效率主委您您說我們會來跟地方加強溝通協調加速來進行\n\n39\n00:13:49,565 --> 00:13:50,226\n好,我們馬上來瞭解來協助他們。\n\n40\n00:14:19,708 --> 00:14:42,427\n那我最後再來我要問院長您知不知道最近物價都在飛漲到有漲的狀況嗎?現在的物價如果比起上個禮拜來上去年度來講的話我們的物價是有在下降但是1月份的時候下降比較多2月份會上來委員我跟你報告都是跟去年同期那去年的春節剛好在1月\n\n41\n00:14:42,967 --> 00:14:45,989\n所以您的感覺跟我們民生的感覺是差蠻遠的,非常多東西尤其民生的東西都在漲。\n\n42\n00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:10,247\n所以從12月的17項重要民生物價指數來看從12月開始到現在2月都是在漲的狀況從110.82漲到現在2月份是111.09所以看得出來我們從這個民生物價指數就看得出來是有在漲的\n\n43\n00:15:16,952 --> 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可能性他可能會讓工程費越來越高對不對對沒有錯所以我想要在這個觀念裡面要拜託我們的院長這些道路工程的完成未來是大家共享的共用的不分藍綠的所以要希望我們院長可不可以專案協調有沒有任何能夠讓這兩條道路趕快進速推動成功的方法還有包含經費的部分希望不管是我們交通部\n內政部或者經濟部或者國科會等等大家可以被眾志成城看有沒有可能走專案行政院的公共計畫建設或者是前瞻計畫經費或是公務預算的挹注或等等任何相關的可能性包含國科會是不是也可以負擔起建設的責任\n因為現在這個部分這個臺中市政府的負擔都大概將近7成是有點偏高當然我知道這個用地費因為用地費也比較高不過因為它是在科學園區附近所以也懇請院長可不可以跨部會的來協調想辦法多補助我們地方我們希望最好是不是可以專案補助到7成中央補助到7成畢竟它還是一個這個我們國家很重要的產業政策\n所以也希望最後可不可以落實到這個地方政府有經費民生交通可以順暢然後我們科學園區範圍也可以擴大的三贏的局面很希望在這裡懇請我們的院長\n市長,我想中央跟地方來一起討論,然後看怎麼樣來申請這個計畫。那你講得很好,就是說漢祥路以及這個福林路,這個本來就是地方政府應該要來建設的,所以他可以申請這個生活圈的道路交通系統建設計畫的方案。當然補助的金額會比較少,最高就只有3.5億,所以您也指出來了。\n﹚廖偉翔\n﹖廖偉翔﹖\n祝我們請國科會來研議。今天下午他不在。\n再來就是有關我們臺中捷運藍線也特別感謝我們中央願意聽到我們臺中的聲音所以這個綜合規劃通過但是也有幾點爭議要確定釐清因為上一次您到沙鹿車站會刊的時候也有相關的人員尤其是這個執政黨的民意代表也提出一些疑點疑慮等等的\n但是最後我們看到我們行政院合定的版本大概跟一年前台中市的版本是相差無幾啊我只是想要再一次確認現在院長這個行政院合定通過後是不是我們代表說我們的疑慮已經釐清\n好謝謝謝謝院長所以對我要講也是這個基本上現在通過了我們就是說現在的版本應該是已經沒有爭議了嘛\n那我們就是希望說臺中現在是臺灣第二大的都市希望未來我們各個捷運可以加速審查加速的核定那另外有我們看到臺中市的藍線地方負擔的比例將近六成相對我們高雄市在黃線還有他們的這個零元線的部分都只負擔了四成那中央補助的六成在我們臺中是恰恰相反的\n那我是說您應該會講說按照遊戲規則啊臺中的財政等級比較高所以負擔費用比例不一樣等等的但是我們從結論來看這個臺中是要自行負擔六成那這樣子的規則不就是在懲罰好學生我覺得這樣子想法是蠻奇怪的\n所以很希望未來在預算的補助比例上中央是不是也可以思考各個城市的發展跟它定位。所以要再拜託院長在這個部分是不是也可以再次的想辦法用專案補助的方式來增加我們的捷運藍線的補助的費用。\n我想全國各地都在建這個捷運那跟剛才的園區的發展不太一樣園區發展還有國科會那這一個在這個捷運的建設的經費實際上我們分成兩塊一個是自償性的部分一個是非自償性的部分那政府補助的是非自償性的部分那非自償性的部分就按照他是財政二級或三級台中市政府因為是二級嘛所以就補助的比較少\n謝謝,要拜託院長再幫我們多找一些財源,增加我們的補助的費用,好不好?\n另外就我所知藍線綜合規劃到從交通部到我們行政院整個核定也審查也差九個多月但是因為單單一條捷運現在只有綠線在台中所以它這個網絡沒有起來運量也很難提升那台中還有其他的捷運線也同時在辦理請問院長你是否知道台灣的國際機場裡面唯一沒有連外軌道的是哪一個\n臺中嗎?沒錯,就是臺中。所以我們臺中的捷運局線,這個機場的捷運局線的必要性跟重要性就在此。那特別是去年你們行政院也通過了2040年要在臺中國際機場在興建第三航廈,所以代表未來我們這邊的運量也會變得很多。\n那如果沒有便捷的大眾運輸我想周邊的交通也會是一場災難所以本席是希望中央可以儘速來審議通過局限的可行性研究也協助臺中儘速推動後續的綜合規劃讓臺中的這個捷運網絡早日形成\n才可以治標又治本因為臺中也是第二大都市人口已經要破285萬要拜託這個部長和院長來幫我們來推動這件事情好嗎?臺中捷運那個局限的這一個部分實際上可信性評估已經送上來可是我們審查完了以後有一些意見送回去到已經送回去到這個臺中市政府那我也希望臺中市政府要加速不要像南線一樣送回去以後耽擱了比較長的時間\n那我這邊也要拜託我們的院長部長等下跟我講的也有關未來藍線的基本設計的部分也有很多這個跟我們各個局處有借接的一些界面所以是希望說請主委還有院長和部長可不可以答應我們台中的鄉親就是在審查的時候發揮你們專業角色和你們協助地方的高度我想千萬不要就是綜合規劃過了但是後續有很多的審查卻卡在來來回回\n那我要講的意思就是說可不可以就是大家更完善一點一次性的你們中央有什麼需求就地方上要修改的一次性的一次改一次搞定不要來來回回因為每次來來回回又拖了好幾個月可以答應嗎\n這一個部分就是委員你已經提到說為什麼南線會需要一點時間來把它合訂就是因為當時確實在整個工程設計上專業上是需要有專業的考量那我們也很高興說臺中市政府總算願意崇尚如流但是這個未來在工程的面上如果有需要跟鐵路局、公路局或者是高空局一起來合作的部分\n那地方政府在設計﹖我想院長剛剛講崇善如柳我不是很贊同但是因為時間的關係我希望我們這幾個臺中的聲音和鄉親的需求您可以聽到因為過去的事情您現在用崇善如柳好像又在要打臺中的一把掌我的意思就是說該改善的部分還有來改善這樣的重大建設是我想都是人民的福祉我想這個中央地方可以一心協力的\n同樣的精神,同樣的精神,如果專業上需要我們中央來協助的話,就不要客氣嘛,你就地方政府提出要求,不要說自己那個組織在那邊。所以我們現在很希望就是代表台中鄉親的聲音,希望我們這幾條,尤其是藍線可以盡速的動工和挽共,因為10年其實台中鄉親也等不了。\n那再來就是也在未來的這個就是像吳主委吳主委您過去這兩週來在交通委員會你也自詡你是勤力勤為那大家其實也感覺你像是老中一樣會到處這個巡迴去議診幫忙把脈\n那就是要落實這個中央地方一條心所以在未來的終結這個捷運的工程上請工程會也緊密跟地方站在一起好不好讓審查階段有效率主委您您說我們會來跟地方加強溝通協調加速來進行\n好,我們馬上來瞭解來協助他們。\n那我最後再來我要問院長您知不知道最近物價都在飛漲到有漲的狀況嗎?現在的物價如果比起上個禮拜來上去年度來講的話我們的物價是有在下降但是1月份的時候下降比較多2月份會上來委員我跟你報告都是跟去年同期那去年的春節剛好在1月\n所以您的感覺跟我們民生的感覺是差蠻遠的,非常多東西尤其民生的東西都在漲。\n所以從12月的17項重要民生物價指數來看從12月開始到現在2月都是在漲的狀況從110.82漲到現在2月份是111.09所以看得出來我們從這個民生物價指數就看得出來是有在漲的\n所以希望想要問院長本週五經濟部在召開電價審議的時候有外傳這個4月的電價漲一度會漲破8元是否有確定漲價?這個當然要讓審議委員會來做決定不是我們在這裡可以決定的。所以我想要請你不要溫柔堅定的漲老百姓的電價要拜託\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:19.505 --> 00:21.205\n院長好,有請我們陳建仁院長。請陳院長備詢。\n\n00:29.761 --> 00:31.416\n委員午安。院長午安。\n\n00:32.930 --> 00:59.949\n院長,我國的這個半導體產業在戰略重要性就是足以被稱為保護臺灣的戲盾那也相信您對於這個台積電進駐台中科學園區以及一路的看著它台中地方配合中央來創造條件到最後確認這個台積電要在我們中科擴廠我想您也感到很欣慰那但是我們地方對於台積電在中科這個進駐和擴廠是一則以喜一則以憂\n\n01:03.071 --> 01:18.279\n因為我們也看到之前台積電到了日本的熊本社場嘛,到現在地方的交通配套不足的情況之下,他早上和晚上通勤通學的時間有嚴重的塞車問題,而且常常是用公里在計算,塞得非常的誇張。\n\n01:19.319 --> 01:19.999\n﹚廖偉翔\n\n01:44.105 --> 01:44.305\n﹚廖偉翔\n\n02:02.105 --> 02:21.510\n中央是不是應該跟地方合作來超前部署,把這個科學園區臺中中科附近的交通配套做好,這個原則您同意嗎?這個交通的便捷和舒適還有這個相關的這個經費確實是要中央跟地方一起來合作。\n\n02:22.370 --> 02:38.881\n感謝院長。所以現在基本上已經有兩個方案嘛。現在台中市政府也有專業的解決方案。首先第一個當然是我們的漢祥路延伸。從我們環中路延伸到東大路。那另外一個是福林路的延伸開闢工程。那這兩個\n\n02:40.503 --> 02:40.543\n﹚廖偉翔﹚\n\n02:56.050 --> 03:15.022\n自己有6成以上的規模要負擔46億5千多萬5千4百萬在另外一件總經費也就是福林路的延伸有24億的工程裡面也是要臺東市政府也是要支出超過7成大概是17億6千3百多萬所以我在這邊想要拜託和提醒我們院長\n\n03:15.865 --> 03:31.068\n因為今天中央設置的科學園區這是地方配合中央的科技產業政策但是它同樣的也會造成我們地方的交通、環保、醫療等等的問題所以讓民眾的生活成本增加\n\n03:31.969 --> 04:00.954\n那再來就是如果不趕快核定的話未來這個原物料上漲的可能性他可能會讓工程費越來越高對不對對沒有錯所以我想要在這個觀念裡面要拜託我們的院長這些道路工程的完成未來是大家共享的共用的不分藍綠的所以要希望我們院長可不可以專案協調有沒有任何能夠讓這兩條道路趕快進速推動成功的方法還有包含經費的部分希望不管是我們交通部\n\n04:01.694 --> 04:18.511\n內政部或者經濟部或者國科會等等大家可以被眾志成城看有沒有可能走專案行政院的公共計畫建設或者是前瞻計畫經費或是公務預算的挹注或等等任何相關的可能性包含國科會是不是也可以負擔起建設的責任\n\n04:19.512 --> 04:44.615\n因為現在這個部分這個臺中市政府的負擔都大概將近7成是有點偏高當然我知道這個用地費因為用地費也比較高不過因為它是在科學園區附近所以也懇請院長可不可以跨部會的來協調想辦法多補助我們地方我們希望最好是不是可以專案補助到7成中央補助到7成畢竟它還是一個這個我們國家很重要的產業政策\n\n04:45.316 --> 04:55.852\n所以也希望最後可不可以落實到這個地方政府有經費民生交通可以順暢然後我們科學園區範圍也可以擴大的三贏的局面很希望在這裡懇請我們的院長\n\n04:59.525 --> 05:23.441\n市長,我想中央跟地方來一起討論,然後看怎麼樣來申請這個計畫。那你講得很好,就是說漢祥路以及這個福林路,這個本來就是地方政府應該要來建設的,所以他可以申請這個生活圈的道路交通系統建設計畫的方案。當然補助的金額會比較少,最高就只有3.5億,所以您也指出來了。\n\n05:25.282 --> 05:25.502\n﹚廖偉翔\n\n05:53.288 --> 05:53.608\n﹖廖偉翔﹖\n\n06:21.209 --> 06:23.432\n祝我們請國科會來研議。今天下午他不在。\n\n06:39.841 --> 07:00.672\n再來就是有關我們臺中捷運藍線也特別感謝我們中央願意聽到我們臺中的聲音所以這個綜合規劃通過但是也有幾點爭議要確定釐清因為上一次您到沙鹿車站會刊的時候也有相關的人員尤其是這個執政黨的民意代表也提出一些疑點疑慮等等的\n\n07:01.132 --> 07:12.902\n但是最後我們看到我們行政院合定的版本大概跟一年前台中市的版本是相差無幾啊我只是想要再一次確認現在院長這個行政院合定通過後是不是我們代表說我們的疑慮已經釐清\n\n07:15.503 --> 07:19.186\n好謝謝謝謝院長所以對我要講也是這個基本上現在通過了我們就是說現在的版本應該是已經沒有爭議了嘛\n\n07:41.044 --> 08:05.425\n那我們就是希望說臺中現在是臺灣第二大的都市希望未來我們各個捷運可以加速審查加速的核定那另外有我們看到臺中市的藍線地方負擔的比例將近六成相對我們高雄市在黃線還有他們的這個零元線的部分都只負擔了四成那中央補助的六成在我們臺中是恰恰相反的\n\n08:05.987 --> 08:22.063\n那我是說您應該會講說按照遊戲規則啊臺中的財政等級比較高所以負擔費用比例不一樣等等的但是我們從結論來看這個臺中是要自行負擔六成那這樣子的規則不就是在懲罰好學生我覺得這樣子想法是蠻奇怪的\n\n08:22.603 --> 08:39.729\n所以很希望未來在預算的補助比例上中央是不是也可以思考各個城市的發展跟它定位。所以要再拜託院長在這個部分是不是也可以再次的想辦法用專案補助的方式來增加我們的捷運藍線的補助的費用。\n\n08:42.390 --> 09:11.365\n我想全國各地都在建這個捷運那跟剛才的園區的發展不太一樣園區發展還有國科會那這一個在這個捷運的建設的經費實際上我們分成兩塊一個是自償性的部分一個是非自償性的部分那政府補助的是非自償性的部分那非自償性的部分就按照他是財政二級或三級台中市政府因為是二級嘛所以就補助的比較少\n\n09:12.005 --> 09:13.126\n謝謝,要拜託院長再幫我們多找一些財源,增加我們的補助的費用,好不好?\n\n09:40.149 --> 10:04.962\n另外就我所知藍線綜合規劃到從交通部到我們行政院整個核定也審查也差九個多月但是因為單單一條捷運現在只有綠線在台中所以它這個網絡沒有起來運量也很難提升那台中還有其他的捷運線也同時在辦理請問院長你是否知道台灣的國際機場裡面唯一沒有連外軌道的是哪一個\n\n10:06.822 --> 10:25.191\n臺中嗎?沒錯,就是臺中。所以我們臺中的捷運局線,這個機場的捷運局線的必要性跟重要性就在此。那特別是去年你們行政院也通過了2040年要在臺中國際機場在興建第三航廈,所以代表未來我們這邊的運量也會變得很多。\n\n10:25.851 --> 10:39.925\n那如果沒有便捷的大眾運輸我想周邊的交通也會是一場災難所以本席是希望中央可以儘速來審議通過局限的可行性研究也協助臺中儘速推動後續的綜合規劃讓臺中的這個捷運網絡早日形成\n\n10:42.768 --> 11:10.836\n才可以治標又治本因為臺中也是第二大都市人口已經要破285萬要拜託這個部長和院長來幫我們來推動這件事情好嗎?臺中捷運那個局限的這一個部分實際上可信性評估已經送上來可是我們審查完了以後有一些意見送回去到已經送回去到這個臺中市政府那我也希望臺中市政府要加速不要像南線一樣送回去以後耽擱了比較長的時間\n\n11:12.316 --> 11:41.289\n那我這邊也要拜託我們的院長部長等下跟我講的也有關未來藍線的基本設計的部分也有很多這個跟我們各個局處有借接的一些界面所以是希望說請主委還有院長和部長可不可以答應我們台中的鄉親就是在審查的時候發揮你們專業角色和你們協助地方的高度我想千萬不要就是綜合規劃過了但是後續有很多的審查卻卡在來來回回\n\n11:41.949 --> 11:55.605\n那我要講的意思就是說可不可以就是大家更完善一點一次性的你們中央有什麼需求就地方上要修改的一次性的一次改一次搞定不要來來回回因為每次來來回回又拖了好幾個月可以答應嗎\n\n11:57.026 --> 12:24.802\n這一個部分就是委員你已經提到說為什麼南線會需要一點時間來把它合訂就是因為當時確實在整個工程設計上專業上是需要有專業的考量那我們也很高興說臺中市政府總算願意崇尚如流但是這個未來在工程的面上如果有需要跟鐵路局、公路局或者是高空局一起來合作的部分\n\n12:25.402 --> 12:53.957\n那地方政府在設計﹖我想院長剛剛講崇善如柳我不是很贊同但是因為時間的關係我希望我們這幾個臺中的聲音和鄉親的需求您可以聽到因為過去的事情您現在用崇善如柳好像又在要打臺中的一把掌我的意思就是說該改善的部分還有來改善這樣的重大建設是我想都是人民的福祉我想這個中央地方可以一心協力的\n\n12:55.017 --> 13:17.643\n同樣的精神,同樣的精神,如果專業上需要我們中央來協助的話,就不要客氣嘛,你就地方政府提出要求,不要說自己那個組織在那邊。所以我們現在很希望就是代表台中鄉親的聲音,希望我們這幾條,尤其是藍線可以盡速的動工和挽共,因為10年其實台中鄉親也等不了。\n\n13:18.612 --> 13:31.890\n那再來就是也在未來的這個就是像吳主委吳主委您過去這兩週來在交通委員會你也自詡你是勤力勤為那大家其實也感覺你像是老中一樣會到處這個巡迴去議診幫忙把脈\n\n13:33.812 --> 13:48.344\n那就是要落實這個中央地方一條心所以在未來的終結這個捷運的工程上請工程會也緊密跟地方站在一起好不好讓審查階段有效率主委您您說我們會來跟地方加強溝通協調加速來進行\n\n13:49.565 --> 13:50.226\n好,我們馬上來瞭解來協助他們。\n\n14:19.708 --> 14:42.427\n那我最後再來我要問院長您知不知道最近物價都在飛漲到有漲的狀況嗎?現在的物價如果比起上個禮拜來上去年度來講的話我們的物價是有在下降但是1月份的時候下降比較多2月份會上來委員我跟你報告都是跟去年同期那去年的春節剛好在1月\n\n14:42.967 --> 14:45.989\n所以您的感覺跟我們民生的感覺是差蠻遠的,非常多東西尤其民生的東西都在漲。\n\n15:00.040 --> 15:10.247\n所以從12月的17項重要民生物價指數來看從12月開始到現在2月都是在漲的狀況從110.82漲到現在2月份是111.09所以看得出來我們從這個民生物價指數就看得出來是有在漲的\n\n15:16.952 --> 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