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00:02:27,131\n報告委員因為現在缺工蠻嚴重的所以我覺得這個電價的上漲應該跟失業率的關聯應該不會那麼直接但我們會關注啦好因為我問這個問題就是希望因為我本席是非常憂心電價大幅調漲之後對我們勞動市場的影響也就是你剛剛說的會不會增加失業率那您覺得是不會增加的意思目前因為目前是缺工很嚴重缺工很嚴重所以看起來我\n\n7\n00:02:28,451 --> 00:02:54,240\n目前我覺得初步應該不會啦但是我們會關注啦我們會關注這個事情初步應該不會那您有這個過去有做這個研究嗎因為像我們2018年的時候電價有漲3%2022年7月漲了8.4%到了這個今年預計可能上漲超過11%因為工業用電可能會更可能會成長超過15%以上工業特大戶則可能成長兩成\n\n8\n00:02:55,740 --> 00:03:17,439\n那因為我想要了解的是說你們過去有沒有對於電價漲幅對失業率的影響有沒有做過專業的評估因為我要強調的是我國的產業特性尤其是低轉價能力跟高耗能產業這兩種產業可能是首當其衝那您覺得您知道高耗能以及低轉價能力通常會是哪些產業嗎\n\n9\n00:03:24,252 --> 00:03:52,291\n同時符合這兩種產業是部分這個低毛利的電子業跟中小企業跟傳產等等所以我剛其實想要提醒部長的是因為過去也有漲過電價那不曉得說勞動部有沒有針對這件事情去做研究和評估因為我想現在是所有的中小企業還有家庭都很擔心漲電價這件事那當然漲電價跟經濟部啊等等的部會有關可是對於勞動部來講我們也是希望說您可不可以儘速評估\n\n10\n00:03:53,812 --> 00:04:13,589\n對於產業的衝擊以及有沒有一些啟動的保護措施?」是,包委我們這個議題我們會一定會關注啦那如果在事業部分我們當然有一些事業的協助措施倒是我跟委包我現在是比較在考慮是說這個電價調整那今年的基本工資的\n\n11\n00:04:15,090 --> 00:04:43,288\n調整可能這個就是要列入我們一個參酌的一個因素因為這個就會影響到整個勞工的實質薪資是不是能夠呼應到這個整個相關的消費的影響對所以針對這題我也是本席也想要進一步問就是說針對這件事情那你們對於今年基本公司調漲有沒有一個方向譬如說你是覺得\n\n12\n00:04:45,014 --> 00:05:02,367\n就要研議部長嗎?還是要怎麼樣?現在因為我們最低工資法通過了我們會有一個研究小組我們研究小組的成員也出來了他會先針對一到三月的一些相關的數據做一些\n\n13\n00:05:03,248 --> 00:05:22,080\n演繹之後會4月會提前提一個初步的報告那像這個電價他其實就是屬於CPI會跟CPI相連動所以這個部分到時候我們CPI的數據也會考慮到電價調整的影響但是最後要怎麼\n\n14\n00:05:22,740 --> 00:05:50,319\n做調整那要到第三季第三季才會去做整體的一個考量然後勞資政學大家合以一起討論來決定是所以我覺得漲電價這件事情知識體大因為它甚至也會影響到不管是失業率或是你勞工調漲這個薪資基本薪資的部分所以邀請部長特別的去追蹤不要導致這個勞工權益的受損或者是導致失業率的問題所以希望回去好好研議一下\n\n15\n00:05:50,959 --> 00:06:03,194\n那再來部長依據我們勞基法第50條女性勞工應享有56天的產假那性別平等法也有類似的規定但實際上產假結束後女性勞工需要依靠傷病假續休\n\n16\n00:06:04,755 --> 00:06:34,215\n因為只有女性才能生小孩但把這個8週的產假用完後就只剩下以傷病假的名義來讓自己能夠安胎休養傷病假本來就是勞工依法來讓自己能夠安胎休養的這個權益但是我們發現因為不分男女都可以請這個傷病假但是卻只有婦女勞工會因為生產在額外扣到自己屬於自己的傷病假那請教部長您覺得這樣平等嗎這樣有做到這個婦女的工作權的保障嗎\n\n17\n00:06:35,275 --> 00:06:37,557\n對部長因為我國的產價規定遠低於國際勞工組織建議的14週所以請教部長當前政府對更新產價政策\n\n18\n00:07:05,015 --> 00:07:32,824\n有何態度?」什麼時候會往我們的國際標準去...報告委員,其實我們的產價會比較...我們台灣是比較廣義啦吼,就含...就是懷孕期間的一些價啦吼,一些措施其實如果整個這樣是跟國際不會差太多,但是我知道這一題很多委員都非常關注吼,那我覺得也應該對女性勞動者吼,有更友善的這些思考或作為吼,我們會來研議\n\n19\n00:07:34,721 --> 00:08:00,560\n好,那請你們可以儘速演繹我們希望我們可以盡量的達到我們國際的標準那再來就是這一次的新法雖然將性別平等人才庫入法但想要請問部長這些優質的人才要去哪裡找我們現在有那個有一個人才庫對,你們是從哪裡就是你們這樣優質的人才要去往哪裡找\n\n20\n00:08:03,646 --> 00:08:21,552\n因為其實我也看了一下這個例行基金會的建議我們人才庫應該要設立更具體的規範與門檻定期的檢視我們專業人才資格而且並定定淘汰不適任者的機制才能夠完備與落實人才庫的目的請教部長這能夠做到嗎\n\n21\n00:08:24,522 --> 00:08:34,514\n其實跟委員報告我們其實我們有訂定針對這些專業人才我們有訂定一個因為你們現在只有16到24小時的這個這個授課的時間\n\n22\n00:08:38,491 --> 00:09:03,071\n其實我們這個課程都跟團體討論過那因為其實也因為要上路時程其實蠻短的我們先已經就是跟團體討論對我了解是謝謝部長我講這一點只是希望提醒你們要回去追蹤一下要設立一個比較具體的門檻和追蹤的這個機制不然也有可能會造成更多的問題出現了解了解我們會滾動檢討讓這個更精進\n\n23\n00:09:07,094 --> 00:09:27,553\n那我也是最後我趕快再提一個我是希望可以提倡提倡我們的彈性上班、獎勵友善企業其實我剛剛也看到有委員也有這個提議所以我也是希望說這個部分是請部長回去盡快的跟專家學者研議之後看是不是可以在一個月或兩個月內提出報告給本席好謝謝那個等一下蘇星群\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9672\t11294\t主校有請我們部長徐部長好請徐部長\n17082\t39281\t廖委員好部長你好許部長關於五一勞動節應該全國一致放假的這個議題從陳院長在開議後透過質詢回答說行政院會回去研議我想請教勞動部掌握的情形因為要考量到如果放假不一致對於家庭成員的生活安排尤其是育兒的部分\n40404\t66780\t譬如幼兒園老師放假但是家長沒放假那小孩要由誰來顧等問題還有五一勞工想要問說五一勞動節我們這個全國放假中央的態度是什麼是報告委員這個部分行政院這裡已經邀請相關部會在做討論那看起來應該我記得院長好像態度是朝肯定的方向在做研議\n68228\t97395\t所以你們肯定會往這個方向去那想要請問具體研議的結果的時程有嗎有沒有預計什麼時候希望完成因為這個是內政部主管所以你不太知道他們的那個對我這個部分比較不清楚我主要是勞動勞動部是勞工嘛勞工現在已經放假OK當然我們也樂觀其成大家能夠一致放假所以你也是保持希望一致放假的態度\n98462\t116667\t好,那部長昨天因為我也有質詢陳建仁院長有關我們電價調漲的一事但是看到我們執政黨已經鐵了心那四月份一定會大幅調漲我們的電價尤其是針對工業用電也想要請教部長電價大幅調高你會不會覺得瑟瑟發抖\n119217\t147131\t報告委員因為現在缺工蠻嚴重的所以我覺得這個電價的上漲應該跟失業率的關聯應該不會那麼直接但我們會關注啦好因為我問這個問題就是希望因為我本席是非常憂心電價大幅調漲之後對我們勞動市場的影響也就是你剛剛說的會不會增加失業率那您覺得是不會增加的意思目前因為目前是缺工很嚴重缺工很嚴重所以看起來我\n148451\t174240\t目前我覺得初步應該不會啦但是我們會關注啦我們會關注這個事情初步應該不會那您有這個過去有做這個研究嗎因為像我們2018年的時候電價有漲3%2022年7月漲了8.4%到了這個今年預計可能上漲超過11%因為工業用電可能會更可能會成長超過15%以上工業特大戶則可能成長兩成\n175740\t197439\t那因為我想要了解的是說你們過去有沒有對於電價漲幅對失業率的影響有沒有做過專業的評估因為我要強調的是我國的產業特性尤其是低轉價能力跟高耗能產業這兩種產業可能是首當其衝那您覺得您知道高耗能以及低轉價能力通常會是哪些產業嗎\n204252\t232291\t同時符合這兩種產業是部分這個低毛利的電子業跟中小企業跟傳產等等所以我剛其實想要提醒部長的是因為過去也有漲過電價那不曉得說勞動部有沒有針對這件事情去做研究和評估因為我想現在是所有的中小企業還有家庭都很擔心漲電價這件事那當然漲電價跟經濟部啊等等的部會有關可是對於勞動部來講我們也是希望說您可不可以儘速評估\n233812\t253589\t對於產業的衝擊以及有沒有一些啟動的保護措施?」是,包委我們這個議題我們會一定會關注啦那如果在事業部分我們當然有一些事業的協助措施倒是我跟委包我現在是比較在考慮是說這個電價調整那今年的基本工資的\n255090\t283288\t調整可能這個就是要列入我們一個參酌的一個因素因為這個就會影響到整個勞工的實質薪資是不是能夠呼應到這個整個相關的消費的影響對所以針對這題我也是本席也想要進一步問就是說針對這件事情那你們對於今年基本公司調漲有沒有一個方向譬如說你是覺得\n285014\t302367\t就要研議部長嗎?還是要怎麼樣?現在因為我們最低工資法通過了我們會有一個研究小組我們研究小組的成員也出來了他會先針對一到三月的一些相關的數據做一些\n303248\t322080\t演繹之後會4月會提前提一個初步的報告那像這個電價他其實就是屬於CPI會跟CPI相連動所以這個部分到時候我們CPI的數據也會考慮到電價調整的影響但是最後要怎麼\n322740\t350319\t做調整那要到第三季第三季才會去做整體的一個考量然後勞資政學大家合以一起討論來決定是所以我覺得漲電價這件事情知識體大因為它甚至也會影響到不管是失業率或是你勞工調漲這個薪資基本薪資的部分所以邀請部長特別的去追蹤不要導致這個勞工權益的受損或者是導致失業率的問題所以希望回去好好研議一下\n350959\t363194\t那再來部長依據我們勞基法第50條女性勞工應享有56天的產假那性別平等法也有類似的規定但實際上產假結束後女性勞工需要依靠傷病假續休\n364755\t394215\t因為只有女性才能生小孩但把這個8週的產假用完後就只剩下以傷病假的名義來讓自己能夠安胎休養傷病假本來就是勞工依法來讓自己能夠安胎休養的這個權益但是我們發現因為不分男女都可以請這個傷病假但是卻只有婦女勞工會因為生產在額外扣到自己屬於自己的傷病假那請教部長您覺得這樣平等嗎這樣有做到這個婦女的工作權的保障嗎\n395275\t397557\t對部長因為我國的產價規定遠低於國際勞工組織建議的14週所以請教部長當前政府對更新產價政策\n425015\t452824\t有何態度?」什麼時候會往我們的國際標準去...報告委員,其實我們的產價會比較...我們台灣是比較廣義啦吼,就含...就是懷孕期間的一些價啦吼,一些措施其實如果整個這樣是跟國際不會差太多,但是我知道這一題很多委員都非常關注吼,那我覺得也應該對女性勞動者吼,有更友善的這些思考或作為吼,我們會來研議\n454721\t480560\t好,那請你們可以儘速演繹我們希望我們可以盡量的達到我們國際的標準那再來就是這一次的新法雖然將性別平等人才庫入法但想要請問部長這些優質的人才要去哪裡找我們現在有那個有一個人才庫對,你們是從哪裡就是你們這樣優質的人才要去往哪裡找\n483646\t501552\t因為其實我也看了一下這個例行基金會的建議我們人才庫應該要設立更具體的規範與門檻定期的檢視我們專業人才資格而且並定定淘汰不適任者的機制才能夠完備與落實人才庫的目的請教部長這能夠做到嗎\n504522\t514514\t其實跟委員報告我們其實我們有訂定針對這些專業人才我們有訂定一個因為你們現在只有16到24小時的這個這個授課的時間\n518491\t543071\t其實我們這個課程都跟團體討論過那因為其實也因為要上路時程其實蠻短的我們先已經就是跟團體討論對我了解是謝謝部長我講這一點只是希望提醒你們要回去追蹤一下要設立一個比較具體的門檻和追蹤的這個機制不然也有可能會造成更多的問題出現了解了解我們會滾動檢討讓這個更精進\n547094\t567553\t那我也是最後我趕快再提一個我是希望可以提倡提倡我們的彈性上班、獎勵友善企業其實我剛剛也看到有委員也有這個提議所以我也是希望說這個部分是請部長回去盡快的跟專家學者研議之後看是不是可以在一個月或兩個月內提出報告給本席好謝謝那個等一下蘇星群\n","txt":"主校有請我們部長徐部長好請徐部長\n廖委員好部長你好許部長關於五一勞動節應該全國一致放假的這個議題從陳院長在開議後透過質詢回答說行政院會回去研議我想請教勞動部掌握的情形因為要考量到如果放假不一致對於家庭成員的生活安排尤其是育兒的部分\n譬如幼兒園老師放假但是家長沒放假那小孩要由誰來顧等問題還有五一勞工想要問說五一勞動節我們這個全國放假中央的態度是什麼是報告委員這個部分行政院這裡已經邀請相關部會在做討論那看起來應該我記得院長好像態度是朝肯定的方向在做研議\n所以你們肯定會往這個方向去那想要請問具體研議的結果的時程有嗎有沒有預計什麼時候希望完成因為這個是內政部主管所以你不太知道他們的那個對我這個部分比較不清楚我主要是勞動勞動部是勞工嘛勞工現在已經放假OK當然我們也樂觀其成大家能夠一致放假所以你也是保持希望一致放假的態度\n好,那部長昨天因為我也有質詢陳建仁院長有關我們電價調漲的一事但是看到我們執政黨已經鐵了心那四月份一定會大幅調漲我們的電價尤其是針對工業用電也想要請教部長電價大幅調高你會不會覺得瑟瑟發抖\n報告委員因為現在缺工蠻嚴重的所以我覺得這個電價的上漲應該跟失業率的關聯應該不會那麼直接但我們會關注啦好因為我問這個問題就是希望因為我本席是非常憂心電價大幅調漲之後對我們勞動市場的影響也就是你剛剛說的會不會增加失業率那您覺得是不會增加的意思目前因為目前是缺工很嚴重缺工很嚴重所以看起來我\n目前我覺得初步應該不會啦但是我們會關注啦我們會關注這個事情初步應該不會那您有這個過去有做這個研究嗎因為像我們2018年的時候電價有漲3%2022年7月漲了8.4%到了這個今年預計可能上漲超過11%因為工業用電可能會更可能會成長超過15%以上工業特大戶則可能成長兩成\n那因為我想要了解的是說你們過去有沒有對於電價漲幅對失業率的影響有沒有做過專業的評估因為我要強調的是我國的產業特性尤其是低轉價能力跟高耗能產業這兩種產業可能是首當其衝那您覺得您知道高耗能以及低轉價能力通常會是哪些產業嗎\n同時符合這兩種產業是部分這個低毛利的電子業跟中小企業跟傳產等等所以我剛其實想要提醒部長的是因為過去也有漲過電價那不曉得說勞動部有沒有針對這件事情去做研究和評估因為我想現在是所有的中小企業還有家庭都很擔心漲電價這件事那當然漲電價跟經濟部啊等等的部會有關可是對於勞動部來講我們也是希望說您可不可以儘速評估\n對於產業的衝擊以及有沒有一些啟動的保護措施?」是,包委我們這個議題我們會一定會關注啦那如果在事業部分我們當然有一些事業的協助措施倒是我跟委包我現在是比較在考慮是說這個電價調整那今年的基本工資的\n調整可能這個就是要列入我們一個參酌的一個因素因為這個就會影響到整個勞工的實質薪資是不是能夠呼應到這個整個相關的消費的影響對所以針對這題我也是本席也想要進一步問就是說針對這件事情那你們對於今年基本公司調漲有沒有一個方向譬如說你是覺得\n就要研議部長嗎?還是要怎麼樣?現在因為我們最低工資法通過了我們會有一個研究小組我們研究小組的成員也出來了他會先針對一到三月的一些相關的數據做一些\n演繹之後會4月會提前提一個初步的報告那像這個電價他其實就是屬於CPI會跟CPI相連動所以這個部分到時候我們CPI的數據也會考慮到電價調整的影響但是最後要怎麼\n做調整那要到第三季第三季才會去做整體的一個考量然後勞資政學大家合以一起討論來決定是所以我覺得漲電價這件事情知識體大因為它甚至也會影響到不管是失業率或是你勞工調漲這個薪資基本薪資的部分所以邀請部長特別的去追蹤不要導致這個勞工權益的受損或者是導致失業率的問題所以希望回去好好研議一下\n那再來部長依據我們勞基法第50條女性勞工應享有56天的產假那性別平等法也有類似的規定但實際上產假結束後女性勞工需要依靠傷病假續休\n因為只有女性才能生小孩但把這個8週的產假用完後就只剩下以傷病假的名義來讓自己能夠安胎休養傷病假本來就是勞工依法來讓自己能夠安胎休養的這個權益但是我們發現因為不分男女都可以請這個傷病假但是卻只有婦女勞工會因為生產在額外扣到自己屬於自己的傷病假那請教部長您覺得這樣平等嗎這樣有做到這個婦女的工作權的保障嗎\n對部長因為我國的產價規定遠低於國際勞工組織建議的14週所以請教部長當前政府對更新產價政策\n有何態度?」什麼時候會往我們的國際標準去...報告委員,其實我們的產價會比較...我們台灣是比較廣義啦吼,就含...就是懷孕期間的一些價啦吼,一些措施其實如果整個這樣是跟國際不會差太多,但是我知道這一題很多委員都非常關注吼,那我覺得也應該對女性勞動者吼,有更友善的這些思考或作為吼,我們會來研議\n好,那請你們可以儘速演繹我們希望我們可以盡量的達到我們國際的標準那再來就是這一次的新法雖然將性別平等人才庫入法但想要請問部長這些優質的人才要去哪裡找我們現在有那個有一個人才庫對,你們是從哪裡就是你們這樣優質的人才要去往哪裡找\n因為其實我也看了一下這個例行基金會的建議我們人才庫應該要設立更具體的規範與門檻定期的檢視我們專業人才資格而且並定定淘汰不適任者的機制才能夠完備與落實人才庫的目的請教部長這能夠做到嗎\n其實跟委員報告我們其實我們有訂定針對這些專業人才我們有訂定一個因為你們現在只有16到24小時的這個這個授課的時間\n其實我們這個課程都跟團體討論過那因為其實也因為要上路時程其實蠻短的我們先已經就是跟團體討論對我了解是謝謝部長我講這一點只是希望提醒你們要回去追蹤一下要設立一個比較具體的門檻和追蹤的這個機制不然也有可能會造成更多的問題出現了解了解我們會滾動檢討讓這個更精進\n那我也是最後我趕快再提一個我是希望可以提倡提倡我們的彈性上班、獎勵友善企業其實我剛剛也看到有委員也有這個提議所以我也是希望說這個部分是請部長回去盡快的跟專家學者研議之後看是不是可以在一個月或兩個月內提出報告給本席好謝謝那個等一下蘇星群\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.672 --> 00:11.294\n主校有請我們部長徐部長好請徐部長\n\n00:17.082 --> 00:39.281\n廖委員好部長你好許部長關於五一勞動節應該全國一致放假的這個議題從陳院長在開議後透過質詢回答說行政院會回去研議我想請教勞動部掌握的情形因為要考量到如果放假不一致對於家庭成員的生活安排尤其是育兒的部分\n\n00:40.404 --> 01:06.780\n譬如幼兒園老師放假但是家長沒放假那小孩要由誰來顧等問題還有五一勞工想要問說五一勞動節我們這個全國放假中央的態度是什麼是報告委員這個部分行政院這裡已經邀請相關部會在做討論那看起來應該我記得院長好像態度是朝肯定的方向在做研議\n\n01:08.228 --> 01:37.395\n所以你們肯定會往這個方向去那想要請問具體研議的結果的時程有嗎有沒有預計什麼時候希望完成因為這個是內政部主管所以你不太知道他們的那個對我這個部分比較不清楚我主要是勞動勞動部是勞工嘛勞工現在已經放假OK當然我們也樂觀其成大家能夠一致放假所以你也是保持希望一致放假的態度\n\n01:38.462 --> 01:56.667\n好,那部長昨天因為我也有質詢陳建仁院長有關我們電價調漲的一事但是看到我們執政黨已經鐵了心那四月份一定會大幅調漲我們的電價尤其是針對工業用電也想要請教部長電價大幅調高你會不會覺得瑟瑟發抖\n\n01:59.217 --> 02:27.131\n報告委員因為現在缺工蠻嚴重的所以我覺得這個電價的上漲應該跟失業率的關聯應該不會那麼直接但我們會關注啦好因為我問這個問題就是希望因為我本席是非常憂心電價大幅調漲之後對我們勞動市場的影響也就是你剛剛說的會不會增加失業率那您覺得是不會增加的意思目前因為目前是缺工很嚴重缺工很嚴重所以看起來我\n\n02:28.451 --> 02:54.240\n目前我覺得初步應該不會啦但是我們會關注啦我們會關注這個事情初步應該不會那您有這個過去有做這個研究嗎因為像我們2018年的時候電價有漲3%2022年7月漲了8.4%到了這個今年預計可能上漲超過11%因為工業用電可能會更可能會成長超過15%以上工業特大戶則可能成長兩成\n\n02:55.740 --> 03:17.439\n那因為我想要了解的是說你們過去有沒有對於電價漲幅對失業率的影響有沒有做過專業的評估因為我要強調的是我國的產業特性尤其是低轉價能力跟高耗能產業這兩種產業可能是首當其衝那您覺得您知道高耗能以及低轉價能力通常會是哪些產業嗎\n\n03:24.252 --> 03:52.291\n同時符合這兩種產業是部分這個低毛利的電子業跟中小企業跟傳產等等所以我剛其實想要提醒部長的是因為過去也有漲過電價那不曉得說勞動部有沒有針對這件事情去做研究和評估因為我想現在是所有的中小企業還有家庭都很擔心漲電價這件事那當然漲電價跟經濟部啊等等的部會有關可是對於勞動部來講我們也是希望說您可不可以儘速評估\n\n03:53.812 --> 04:13.589\n對於產業的衝擊以及有沒有一些啟動的保護措施?」是,包委我們這個議題我們會一定會關注啦那如果在事業部分我們當然有一些事業的協助措施倒是我跟委包我現在是比較在考慮是說這個電價調整那今年的基本工資的\n\n04:15.090 --> 04:43.288\n調整可能這個就是要列入我們一個參酌的一個因素因為這個就會影響到整個勞工的實質薪資是不是能夠呼應到這個整個相關的消費的影響對所以針對這題我也是本席也想要進一步問就是說針對這件事情那你們對於今年基本公司調漲有沒有一個方向譬如說你是覺得\n\n04:45.014 --> 05:02.367\n就要研議部長嗎?還是要怎麼樣?現在因為我們最低工資法通過了我們會有一個研究小組我們研究小組的成員也出來了他會先針對一到三月的一些相關的數據做一些\n\n05:03.248 --> 05:22.080\n演繹之後會4月會提前提一個初步的報告那像這個電價他其實就是屬於CPI會跟CPI相連動所以這個部分到時候我們CPI的數據也會考慮到電價調整的影響但是最後要怎麼\n\n05:22.740 --> 05:50.319\n做調整那要到第三季第三季才會去做整體的一個考量然後勞資政學大家合以一起討論來決定是所以我覺得漲電價這件事情知識體大因為它甚至也會影響到不管是失業率或是你勞工調漲這個薪資基本薪資的部分所以邀請部長特別的去追蹤不要導致這個勞工權益的受損或者是導致失業率的問題所以希望回去好好研議一下\n\n05:50.959 --> 06:03.194\n那再來部長依據我們勞基法第50條女性勞工應享有56天的產假那性別平等法也有類似的規定但實際上產假結束後女性勞工需要依靠傷病假續休\n\n06:04.755 --> 06:34.215\n因為只有女性才能生小孩但把這個8週的產假用完後就只剩下以傷病假的名義來讓自己能夠安胎休養傷病假本來就是勞工依法來讓自己能夠安胎休養的這個權益但是我們發現因為不分男女都可以請這個傷病假但是卻只有婦女勞工會因為生產在額外扣到自己屬於自己的傷病假那請教部長您覺得這樣平等嗎這樣有做到這個婦女的工作權的保障嗎\n\n06:35.275 --> 06:37.557\n對部長因為我國的產價規定遠低於國際勞工組織建議的14週所以請教部長當前政府對更新產價政策\n\n07:05.015 --> 07:32.824\n有何態度?」什麼時候會往我們的國際標準去...報告委員,其實我們的產價會比較...我們台灣是比較廣義啦吼,就含...就是懷孕期間的一些價啦吼,一些措施其實如果整個這樣是跟國際不會差太多,但是我知道這一題很多委員都非常關注吼,那我覺得也應該對女性勞動者吼,有更友善的這些思考或作為吼,我們會來研議\n\n07:34.721 --> 08:00.560\n好,那請你們可以儘速演繹我們希望我們可以盡量的達到我們國際的標準那再來就是這一次的新法雖然將性別平等人才庫入法但想要請問部長這些優質的人才要去哪裡找我們現在有那個有一個人才庫對,你們是從哪裡就是你們這樣優質的人才要去往哪裡找\n\n08:03.646 --> 08:21.552\n因為其實我也看了一下這個例行基金會的建議我們人才庫應該要設立更具體的規範與門檻定期的檢視我們專業人才資格而且並定定淘汰不適任者的機制才能夠完備與落實人才庫的目的請教部長這能夠做到嗎\n\n08:24.522 --> 08:34.514\n其實跟委員報告我們其實我們有訂定針對這些專業人才我們有訂定一個因為你們現在只有16到24小時的這個這個授課的時間\n\n08:38.491 --> 09:03.071\n其實我們這個課程都跟團體討論過那因為其實也因為要上路時程其實蠻短的我們先已經就是跟團體討論對我了解是謝謝部長我講這一點只是希望提醒你們要回去追蹤一下要設立一個比較具體的門檻和追蹤的這個機制不然也有可能會造成更多的問題出現了解了解我們會滾動檢討讓這個更精進\n\n09:07.094 --> 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