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00:00:08,206\n有請院長院長上禮拜勞動部有在新聞上發布會小規模示範以日來請願意假務從5月起會開放申請我知道中研院一直都是非常支持托育的政策\n\n2\n00:00:29,926 --> 00:00:32,348\n中央研究院院長廖雅琳\n\n3\n00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:26,071\n對,因為他基本上他的概念就是說過去的我們運營家可能是以日為單位那現在就是以時跟以日為單位提供更多的彈性給我們的中研院的員工們這樣子對,看起來應該是會非常受歡迎的一個方式不過我們要仔細研究去看看好,那院長大概什麼時候可以有一些評估的結果呢?什麼時候評估?人事主任講一下\n\n4\n00:01:27,087 --> 00:01:52,493\n委員好,我們現在其實沒有限制員工說請暈柳子挺心要用月或是用日,沒有特別做限制所以我們已經可以這樣做了所以現在已經在實行,就是以時或是以日的方式來執行嗎?沒有以時,但是我們會看員工的實際需求來衡量,看可不可以請\n\n5\n00:01:53,966 --> 00:02:18,136\n所以就是說不一定要以月為單位的意思是嗎?現在已經是這樣執行的?是,我們會看員工的實際需求來衡量我們會更加簡化並且看說我們現在目前的制度有沒有什麼可以更加精進那假如臨時這個員工需要我今天要請一天可不可以臨時請,譬如說這樣子我們朝這方向來研議\n\n6\n00:02:18,996 --> 00:02:43,178\n好了解了那謝謝院長中研院果然一直都是非常友善悅耳的環境那再來還是要來討論就是有關於因為我自己非常關心兒少的部分那我自己的小孩也對中研院非常的關注因為他是非常喜歡科學類的東西所以我們其實都非常關注每一年中研院的一些展覽開放的時間那我也關注到從108年我們的人次\n\n7\n00:02:44,639 --> 00:03:12,280\n在108年一舉辦黑洞特展所以非常紅媒體非常多新聞所以人次達到了21萬次那中間可能是因為經歷到疫情那我們的111年做線上也有42萬人次可是到111年到112年人數就開始節節的下降那我想要了解這原因是什麼是發生了什麼事情是我們做的媒體資源宣傳不夠嗎還是我們的主題設計上面不夠吸引人\n\n8\n00:03:13,521 --> 00:03:35,296\n我們從現場大概不會感覺到人數下降這可能是統計上的問題因為我們掌握到的人數一方面是團體報名一方面是自由參觀那個人數比較難掌握另外一個可能的原因是過去幾天好像都碰到一點下雨\n\n9\n00:03:37,037 --> 00:04:01,888\n這個假如是下雨來你也知道說人就少但是在現場感覺整天都還是經濟爆滿對沒有錯但是我們從統計數字上面來講的確就是降了非常多那可不可以請院長也回去了解一下我們還有怎麼樣可以去加強因為中研院一直在講要開放讓大家聊清淨這些科學知識所以人數一定是非常重要的一件事情可不可以給我一個評估跟檢討的部分大概什麼時候可以提供給我們這是\n\n10\n00:04:04,509 --> 00:04:31,843\n秘書處處長鄭國祥我們可以在大概一個禮拜以內將資料送到委員辦公室好因為我還是會覺得說既然我們有一個這麼好的因為對我們來說中央醫院是一個寶庫我們還是盡量讓大家都可以入寶山取得知識同時我們也收到一些回饋就是說人太多事實上也降低人家來的意願就太急了所以可能一個適度我們不曉得什麼叫適度我們會評估看什麼樣最佳的狀況\n\n11\n00:04:33,404 --> 00:04:33,784\n網路上的分享也是頗受好評\n\n12\n00:04:48,869 --> 00:04:49,109\n額外研究\n\n13\n00:05:08,055 --> 00:05:08,275\n李卓人議員\n\n14\n00:05:34,493 --> 00:05:52,561\n今年就開始也會有兒童科普日我們是不是可以考慮從今年的兒童科普日就開始做這件事這個非常好的建議秘書處應該是可以配合辦理我們在設計這些內容之後可能接下來的一系列的規劃機制也都可以提供到我們辦公室\n\n15\n00:05:53,101 --> 00:05:54,183\n中央研究院院長\n\n16\n00:06:10,066 --> 00:06:27,074\n這個可能是因為交通的距離或是經費所以東南部離島的人數是節節的下降這個院長了解原因是什麼嗎?我們沒有這個感覺這可能仍然是團體報名有些這個中南部東部的學生\n\n17\n00:06:27,754 --> 00:06:54,180\n他不是以團體報名方式他三五成群的自己來我們在院區內部我們感覺到好像這個仍然是看到大部分都是這個中南部甚至東部甚至去年還有金門來的學生他們很高興來跟我們的合照來跟我們分享他們從哪裡來所以我們在現場倒是沒有感覺到這樣的狀況那統計是不是為什麼這個落差這我們要回去瞭解一下\n\n18\n00:06:54,640 --> 00:07:16,770\n對因為我們看到數字就是這樣子所以這個可能也請就是一個禮拜給我這些檢討的報告好不好但因為我覺得東南部還是會有可能受到因為相比我們不管從數字上面108年109年我們數字還是相對少但我也知道中研院一直有在做一個中研講堂跨縣市科普的演講過去6年做了11個縣市但是我們全台灣有22個縣市\n\n19\n00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:42,809\n等於還要再花6年的時間才能夠完成這件事情等於小孩在中學這段時間他是沒有機會接受到這個科普的這個演講的機會我們有沒有可能更積極的把這些內容再轉化出來去把這個場次呢可能是每一年再增加一點點呢或者是因為南部園區即將要完工了有沒有可能南部園區也開始加入這個開放園區的活動\n\n20\n00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:45,810\n．3月18日及21日三天一次會議．3月18日及21日三天一次會議\n\n21\n00:08:17,862 --> 00:08:40,471\n主要是在從偏遠的地區教育資源相對弱勢的地區開始所以不是說很平均的這樣做對我覺得中南部東部、南部、離島多一點我覺得這是非常棒的因為他們就是就近沒有辦法取得這些資源那我們接下來有沒有可能在每一年的場次增加呢因為不然要等六年這巡迴太久了\n\n22\n00:08:40,991 --> 00:09:06,708\n有沒有可能再評估一下這個場次增加我們評估一下對我們研究人員還是一個相當大的負擔每一個人要去準備好幾個禮拜最後我想補充一個提醒就是說因為我們在世界經濟論壇2024年的時候他已經提出了十大這十年內有全球十大風險其中有五大風險跟環境有關所以這個東西是直接影響到了孩子的生存權\n\n23\n00:09:07,509 --> 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那謝謝院長中研院果然一直都是非常友善悅耳的環境那再來還是要來討論就是有關於因為我自己非常關心兒少的部分那我自己的小孩也對中研院非常的關注因為他是非常喜歡科學類的東西所以我們其實都非常關注每一年中研院的一些展覽開放的時間那我也關注到從108年我們的人次\n164639\t192280\t在108年一舉辦黑洞特展所以非常紅媒體非常多新聞所以人次達到了21萬次那中間可能是因為經歷到疫情那我們的111年做線上也有42萬人次可是到111年到112年人數就開始節節的下降那我想要了解這原因是什麼是發生了什麼事情是我們做的媒體資源宣傳不夠嗎還是我們的主題設計上面不夠吸引人\n193521\t215296\t我們從現場大概不會感覺到人數下降這可能是統計上的問題因為我們掌握到的人數一方面是團體報名一方面是自由參觀那個人數比較難掌握另外一個可能的原因是過去幾天好像都碰到一點下雨\n217037\t241888\t這個假如是下雨來你也知道說人就少但是在現場感覺整天都還是經濟爆滿對沒有錯但是我們從統計數字上面來講的確就是降了非常多那可不可以請院長也回去了解一下我們還有怎麼樣可以去加強因為中研院一直在講要開放讓大家聊清淨這些科學知識所以人數一定是非常重要的一件事情可不可以給我一個評估跟檢討的部分大概什麼時候可以提供給我們這是\n244509\t271843\t秘書處處長鄭國祥我們可以在大概一個禮拜以內將資料送到委員辦公室好 因為我還是會覺得說既然我們有一個這麼好的因為對我們來說中央醫院是一個寶庫我們還是盡量讓大家都可以入寶山取得知識同時我們也收到一些回饋就是說人太多事實上也降低人家來的意願就太急了所以可能一個適度我們不曉得什麼叫適度我們會評估看什麼樣最佳的狀況\n273404\t273784\t網路上的分享也是頗受好評\n288869\t289109\t額外研究\n308055\t308275\t李卓人議員\n334493\t352561\t今年就開始也會有兒童科普日我們是不是可以考慮從今年的兒童科普日就開始做這件事這個非常好的建議秘書處應該是可以配合辦理我們在設計這些內容之後可能接下來的一系列的規劃機制也都可以提供到我們辦公室\n353101\t354183\t中央研究院院長\n370066\t387074\t這個可能是因為交通的距離或是經費所以東南部離島的人數是節節的下降這個院長了解原因是什麼嗎?我們沒有這個感覺這可能仍然是團體報名有些這個中南部東部的學生\n387754\t414180\t他不是以團體報名方式他三五成群的自己來我們在院區內部我們感覺到好像這個仍然是看到大部分都是這個中南部甚至東部甚至去年還有金門來的學生他們很高興來跟我們的合照來跟我們分享他們從哪裡來所以我們在現場倒是沒有感覺到這樣的狀況那統計是不是為什麼這個落差這我們要回去瞭解一下\n414640\t436770\t對 因為我們看到數字就是這樣子所以這個可能也請就是一個禮拜給我這些檢討的報告好不好但因為我覺得東南部還是會有可能受到因為相比我們不管從數字上面108年109年我們數字還是相對少但我也知道中研院一直有在做一個中研講堂跨縣市科普的演講過去6年做了11個縣市但是我們全台灣有22個縣市\n438090\t462809\t等於還要再花6年的時間才能夠完成這件事情等於小孩在中學這段時間他是沒有機會接受到這個科普的這個演講的機會我們有沒有可能更積極的把這些內容再轉化出來去把這個場次呢可能是每一年再增加一點點呢或者是因為南部園區即將要完工了有沒有可能南部園區也開始加入這個開放園區的活動\n464950\t465810\t．3月18日及21日三天一次會議．3月18日及21日三天一次會議\n497862\t520471\t主要是在從偏遠的地區教育資源相對弱勢的地區開始所以不是說很平均的這樣做對 我覺得中南部東部、南部、離島多一點我覺得這是非常棒的因為他們就是就近沒有辦法取得這些資源那我們接下來有沒有可能在每一年的場次增加呢因為不然要等六年這巡迴太久了\n520991\t546708\t有沒有可能再評估一下這個場次增加我們評估一下對我們研究人員還是一個相當大的負擔每一個人要去準備好幾個禮拜最後我想補充一個提醒就是說因為我們在世界經濟論壇2024年的時候他已經提出了十大這十年內有全球十大風險其中有五大風險跟環境有關所以這個東西是直接影響到了孩子的生存權\n547509\t547929\t非常好的建議\n","txt":"有請院長院長上禮拜勞動部有在新聞上發布會小規模示範以日來請願意假務從5月起會開放申請我知道中研院一直都是非常支持托育的政策\n中央研究院院長廖雅琳\n對,因為他基本上他的概念就是說過去的我們運營家可能是以日為單位那現在就是以時跟以日為單位提供更多的彈性給我們的中研院的員工們這樣子對,看起來應該是會非常受歡迎的一個方式不過我們要仔細研究去看看好,那院長大概什麼時候可以有一些評估的結果呢?什麼時候評估?人事主任講一下\n委員好,我們現在其實沒有限制員工說請暈柳子挺心要用月或是用日,沒有特別做限制所以我們已經可以這樣做了所以現在已經在實行,就是以時或是以日的方式來執行嗎?沒有以時,但是我們會看員工的實際需求來衡量,看可不可以請\n所以就是說不一定要以月為單位的意思是嗎?現在已經是這樣執行的?是,我們會看員工的實際需求來衡量我們會更加簡化並且看說我們現在目前的制度有沒有什麼可以更加精進那假如臨時這個員工需要我今天要請一天可不可以臨時請,譬如說這樣子我們朝這方向來研議\n好 了解了 那謝謝院長中研院果然一直都是非常友善悅耳的環境那再來還是要來討論就是有關於因為我自己非常關心兒少的部分那我自己的小孩也對中研院非常的關注因為他是非常喜歡科學類的東西所以我們其實都非常關注每一年中研院的一些展覽開放的時間那我也關注到從108年我們的人次\n在108年一舉辦黑洞特展所以非常紅媒體非常多新聞所以人次達到了21萬次那中間可能是因為經歷到疫情那我們的111年做線上也有42萬人次可是到111年到112年人數就開始節節的下降那我想要了解這原因是什麼是發生了什麼事情是我們做的媒體資源宣傳不夠嗎還是我們的主題設計上面不夠吸引人\n我們從現場大概不會感覺到人數下降這可能是統計上的問題因為我們掌握到的人數一方面是團體報名一方面是自由參觀那個人數比較難掌握另外一個可能的原因是過去幾天好像都碰到一點下雨\n這個假如是下雨來你也知道說人就少但是在現場感覺整天都還是經濟爆滿對沒有錯但是我們從統計數字上面來講的確就是降了非常多那可不可以請院長也回去了解一下我們還有怎麼樣可以去加強因為中研院一直在講要開放讓大家聊清淨這些科學知識所以人數一定是非常重要的一件事情可不可以給我一個評估跟檢討的部分大概什麼時候可以提供給我們這是\n秘書處處長鄭國祥我們可以在大概一個禮拜以內將資料送到委員辦公室好 因為我還是會覺得說既然我們有一個這麼好的因為對我們來說中央醫院是一個寶庫我們還是盡量讓大家都可以入寶山取得知識同時我們也收到一些回饋就是說人太多事實上也降低人家來的意願就太急了所以可能一個適度我們不曉得什麼叫適度我們會評估看什麼樣最佳的狀況\n網路上的分享也是頗受好評\n額外研究\n李卓人議員\n今年就開始也會有兒童科普日我們是不是可以考慮從今年的兒童科普日就開始做這件事這個非常好的建議秘書處應該是可以配合辦理我們在設計這些內容之後可能接下來的一系列的規劃機制也都可以提供到我們辦公室\n中央研究院院長\n這個可能是因為交通的距離或是經費所以東南部離島的人數是節節的下降這個院長了解原因是什麼嗎?我們沒有這個感覺這可能仍然是團體報名有些這個中南部東部的學生\n他不是以團體報名方式他三五成群的自己來我們在院區內部我們感覺到好像這個仍然是看到大部分都是這個中南部甚至東部甚至去年還有金門來的學生他們很高興來跟我們的合照來跟我們分享他們從哪裡來所以我們在現場倒是沒有感覺到這樣的狀況那統計是不是為什麼這個落差這我們要回去瞭解一下\n對 因為我們看到數字就是這樣子所以這個可能也請就是一個禮拜給我這些檢討的報告好不好但因為我覺得東南部還是會有可能受到因為相比我們不管從數字上面108年109年我們數字還是相對少但我也知道中研院一直有在做一個中研講堂跨縣市科普的演講過去6年做了11個縣市但是我們全台灣有22個縣市\n等於還要再花6年的時間才能夠完成這件事情等於小孩在中學這段時間他是沒有機會接受到這個科普的這個演講的機會我們有沒有可能更積極的把這些內容再轉化出來去把這個場次呢可能是每一年再增加一點點呢或者是因為南部園區即將要完工了有沒有可能南部園區也開始加入這個開放園區的活動\n．3月18日及21日三天一次會議．3月18日及21日三天一次會議\n主要是在從偏遠的地區教育資源相對弱勢的地區開始所以不是說很平均的這樣做對 我覺得中南部東部、南部、離島多一點我覺得這是非常棒的因為他們就是就近沒有辦法取得這些資源那我們接下來有沒有可能在每一年的場次增加呢因為不然要等六年這巡迴太久了\n有沒有可能再評估一下這個場次增加我們評估一下對我們研究人員還是一個相當大的負擔每一個人要去準備好幾個禮拜最後我想補充一個提醒就是說因為我們在世界經濟論壇2024年的時候他已經提出了十大這十年內有全球十大風險其中有五大風險跟環境有關所以這個東西是直接影響到了孩子的生存權\n非常好的建議\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.604 --> 00:08.206\n有請院長院長上禮拜勞動部有在新聞上發布會小規模示範以日來請願意假務從5月起會開放申請我知道中研院一直都是非常支持托育的政策\n\n00:29.926 --> 00:32.348\n中央研究院院長廖雅琳\n\n00:59.990 --> 01:26.071\n對,因為他基本上他的概念就是說過去的我們運營家可能是以日為單位那現在就是以時跟以日為單位提供更多的彈性給我們的中研院的員工們這樣子對,看起來應該是會非常受歡迎的一個方式不過我們要仔細研究去看看好,那院長大概什麼時候可以有一些評估的結果呢?什麼時候評估?人事主任講一下\n\n01:27.087 --> 01:52.493\n委員好,我們現在其實沒有限制員工說請暈柳子挺心要用月或是用日,沒有特別做限制所以我們已經可以這樣做了所以現在已經在實行,就是以時或是以日的方式來執行嗎?沒有以時,但是我們會看員工的實際需求來衡量,看可不可以請\n\n01:53.966 --> 02:18.136\n所以就是說不一定要以月為單位的意思是嗎?現在已經是這樣執行的?是,我們會看員工的實際需求來衡量我們會更加簡化並且看說我們現在目前的制度有沒有什麼可以更加精進那假如臨時這個員工需要我今天要請一天可不可以臨時請,譬如說這樣子我們朝這方向來研議\n\n02:18.996 --> 02:43.178\n好了解了那謝謝院長中研院果然一直都是非常友善悅耳的環境那再來還是要來討論就是有關於因為我自己非常關心兒少的部分那我自己的小孩也對中研院非常的關注因為他是非常喜歡科學類的東西所以我們其實都非常關注每一年中研院的一些展覽開放的時間那我也關注到從108年我們的人次\n\n02:44.639 --> 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