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00:00:10,413\n財政部部長財政部長\n\n2\n00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,501\n我們幾個工股行庫的董作的年齡\n\n3\n00:01:06,138 --> 00:01:16,747\n台灣銀行、土地銀行、合作金庫、兆豐銀行、滴銀行、華南銀行、彰化銀行、台灣企銀當然有些是金控這些董事長8個董事長裡面有5個都已經超齡了\n\n4\n00:01:25,168 --> 00:01:40,143\n我們過去有這個出任不要超過65歲董事長也是不要超過68歲可是後來這一些的規定你們也取消了可是問題是\n\n5\n00:01:41,804 --> 00:01:59,576\n我們如果今天我們的這些公股的金控公股的銀行他們的業績非常好表現非常好然後在公司次裡的表現上也是可圈可點的話那我們可以說這些呢將是老的辣可是事實如此嗎\n\n6\n00:02:03,892 --> 00:02:27,550\n過去有多少我們這些公股金控公股銀行下面有一些公司治理亂七八糟人模不章用人也是完全是用親信我最近可能還會再提出因為陸陸續續都一直有跟我爆料都很離譜就是人事的升遷完全沒有按照常理\n\n7\n00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:49,676\n道金是涉案的還可以讓他升官只是因為朝中有人啊所以今天我們看到這麼多的這些公股銀行監控這些董事長甚至已經高達70歲了仍然讓他去高升所以部長我想請問一下這個部分難道不需要去改革嗎\n\n8\n00:02:56,588 --> 00:03:19,470\n委員報告董事長總經理的一個任用當然我們要考慮他的專業經驗還有歷練那一定要有一定的高度以及他身後的一些經驗的豐富以及學養我想這個部分年齡不是主要的一個考慮因素我想這個部分委員我知道您一直很關心這個部分我們也會督促供股行庫不管是在人員禁用還跟升遷上\n\n9\n00:03:20,251 --> 00:03:41,431\n也要符合他的一個制度跟規定那有關如果有不合的部分我們一定會不會包庇我肯定在上次我提出來就是在我們公股監控除了銀行在公開招考之外其他的子公司也應該採取用公開招考的方式這個部分我會繼續的追蹤\n\n10\n00:03:44,754 --> 00:04:04,702\n我也同意這樣的方式但是我們在這些高層人士的部分如果我們長期的其實沒有做新層代謝說實在我這邊雖然在質詢你財政部長我非常清楚知道很多銀行的董事甚至總經理你可能都沒有辦法決定\n\n11\n00:04:05,882 --> 00:04:15,372\n甚至我有時候質疑說為什麼這個人可以他出他的下面出這麼多事情他仍然可以繼續的繼續的升官繼續的當董事長啊就有人說沒有辦法他是誰誰誰的人啊都是民進黨這些執政黨高層的人\n\n12\n00:04:24,741 --> 00:04:45,494\n那可是問題是這些就是我們公股金控公股銀行這些我們公股金融機構如果他們的任命某一個程度就已經有政治性的任命的時候那當然他的下面的一些他的中階主管\n\n13\n00:04:46,374 --> 00:05:02,593\n的任命也充滿了很可能會被人家左右好我們看下一頁這個部分我知道我們的財委會的委員也有人質詢過就是為什麼我們公股金控的表現都打不過這些民營的金控公司\n\n14\n00:05:03,354 --> 00:05:03,394\n我認為啊\n\n15\n00:05:33,738 --> 00:05:40,286\n我認為我們現在很多的問題並不是其實我個人並不是很支持現在做什麼公共病因為\n\n16\n00:05:42,763 --> 00:06:07,383\n宮古金控下面有很多的弊端你不去解決然後你說你們表現很差呀那麼都打不過什麼富邦啊國泰啊什麼這些金控公司那麼如果我們現在整個在人事的制度上能夠像以前一樣好的制度建立起來過去就是願有一些人一個兩個\n\n17\n00:06:27,666 --> 00:06:47,742\n這個相關的規定最後呢規定呢就形同句文那後來自己也已經說不過去沒有辦法相信自己財政部有一個這個相關的規定在那裡但是沒有一家在遵守那最後呢就乾脆把這個規定取消然後說哇這些啊都是他們資歷非常的深厚\n\n18\n00:06:48,803 --> 00:07:09,947\n可是其他人沒有那個我真的覺得這麼多功苦驚恐他沒人了嗎說難聽一點我過去是媒體出身我就是跑金融的財政金融財政部我很熟悉我以前就跑財政部很久嘛有些這個你們現在都已經升官了以前都那個什麼我們都常在跑\n\n19\n00:07:10,956 --> 00:07:36,962\n老師說你們現在有一些金控的人我在跑新聞的時候就是他們到現在還是他們我就覺得很奇怪我們難道這個公股行庫裡面沒有人了嗎沒有人才了嗎所以最後一點時間給你看後面所以我們現在一些公股金控不管是銀行也好這個是以合股銀行來舉例\n\n20\n00:07:38,956 --> 00:07:59,584\n很多已經留不住年輕人了如果這些高層的人士被這些人長期的霸佔反正永遠也不會退啦永遠都是他啦有的你們知道一些中層主管出事了還是他啊我最近就看到一個案例我覺得太離譜了都已經被起訴了然後還可以繼續升官\n\n21\n00:08:06,747 --> 00:08:34,215\n是這個在民間機構大家都會覺得你可能是家族公司吧所以你現在年輕人如果優秀的年輕人沒有辦法在我們的公股的金控公司也好公股的銀行也好能夠讓他們長期的能夠認為說他在這邊是有明天的他在這邊是有希望的是有前途的最後就會出現年輕人的離職率就會比較高\n\n22\n00:08:35,135 --> 00:08:58,322\n所以部長我真的覺得我們今天如果看我們的這些公股行庫沒有錯公股行庫因為有一些你們負擔一些政策性的使命所以當然你可能不像民營的反正就是今天我一定要獲利獲利獲利賺錢嘛但是我們的流幣也真的太多了所以\n\n23\n00:08:59,892 --> 00:09:27,228\n我剩下一點點時間請你回應我們可不可以就我們公股的行庫的董事長總經理能夠遵守我們過去的規定65歲出任68歲也差不多了嘛感謝這些老董事長老總經理的貢獻也讓年輕人可以表現一下可不可以\n\n24\n00:09:28,695 --> 00:09:28,715\n委員會長\n\n25\n00:09:44,662 --> 00:09:50,964\n有弊端的部分我一直說過我們絕不包庇也不隱瞞一定是誠實的面對嚴正的處理那人員的一個流財攬財這非常重要我們一定要做好第一個從待遇裡面我們給予調整然後升遷的管道必須要暢通那我非常認同委員所提的\n\n26\n00:10:20,533 --> 00:10:35,367\n你們再去研究過去的65歲、68歲可以把它落實下來。抱怨是要你們抱怨,你們都不抱怨的話院裡面繼續去掌控這些人事啊。我今天講的在掌控人事就在新政院裡面坐著啊。\n\n27\n00:10:36,781 --> 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