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00:00:28,277\n請質詢。好,謝謝昭緯,那待會要請部長,但是也請昭緯,謝謝昭緯辦今天這個跟性別平等有關的部分,那可不可以跟我們傅坤祺總召講一下,因為我要求修改立法院行為法的回應,親自送我的版本給他,那希望我們第一大黨可以支持。\n\n2\n00:00:29,097 --> 00:00:56,319\n因為根據我們MeToo之後的三法性騷擾防治法中場所的主人應該訂定行為人的懲處的部分那立法院就算不是我們的雇主也是場所的主人嘛本來就應該依照性騷擾法的規定訂定在這個場所性騷擾的就是這個所謂的加害人的懲處可是那個目前就是看起來沒有任何的回應所以請那個召委幫忙請傅坤祺總召回應一下好嗎\n\n3\n00:00:58,257 --> 00:01:03,080\n好來那我們進行質詢部長有請好來請許部長範圍好部長午安我想今天大家都很關心性平三法的修正我也跟勞動部開過會包含就是細項的部分要請你們處理這部分因為今天時間有限我就不再細講好不好\n\n4\n00:01:23,892 --> 00:01:51,160\n那之前勞動部答應的部分如何輔導企業跟這個謀合期我會繼續監督那再來我想今天剛剛包含洪森和委員好像好幾位委員都反映過你們5月要試辦的彈性育嬰假有蠻多問題的我想請問部長您在選舉期間有沒有看過我們三位總統候選人的婦女跟性別相關的證件\n\n5\n00:01:52,571 --> 00:02:17,525\n您有看過嗎?沒有?您的表情好像沒看過那您知不知道裡面有一些是勞動部應該要負責的部分?沒有那顯然我比您關心跟勞動部相關的性平政見那這個彈性育嬰假這五個字是我們賴清德未來的總統的婦女跟性別政見請問您知不知道?有\n\n6\n00:02:19,839 --> 00:02:43,440\n有知道所以我雖然肯定您知道這個事然後有推這個部分可是目前你們規劃出來這個5月要執行的方案說實在的讓大家據說是擔心跟有點失望不知道我們部長曉不曉得我們長期推動這個議題的民間團體是哪一兩個您知道嗎\n\n7\n00:02:52,271 --> 00:03:03,936\n負女心之跟其他的婦女團體,可是你們在設計的過程有找這些長期推動的團體來討論,然後最後方案出來的時候,他們知道是設計成這樣嗎?\n\n8\n00:03:11,215 --> 00:03:22,580\n我請部長回答因為這是賴清德未來總統重要的政見跟勞動部有關的之前我記得我們有找過跟相關團體開過會有開過會但是後來你們這個草案出來的時候他們並不知道長成這樣跟他們想像很不一樣的\n\n9\n00:03:29,983 --> 00:03:45,394\n因為包含那個林淑芬委員有上一任我們就提案了我們其實這個是這樣就是說我們先試辦然後如果能夠做的部分影響比較小先往前推然後看看有一些回饋回來我們可以做日後可能要\n\n10\n00:03:46,094 --> 00:04:09,626\n做進一步往前推展的一個參考。我知道部長您的好意是說先求有再求好可是你若一開始就設計錯了就不好用了對不對他就會成效不彰事辦結果成效不彰就會讓他被覺得是個不好的政策所以一開始我們先不要講剛剛洪委員有講過缺乏誘因了\n\n11\n00:04:10,306 --> 00:04:36,989\n限制你這邊限制至少5天或7天然後自己又說但是也得一次一天那可是呢像我跟林淑芬委員我們上一屆就提出來的就是蠻多團體主張應該以小時為單位比如說你如果接送小孩可能是對企業來講可能也是比較好的他知道他每天4點鐘可以提早下班也許影響是比較小的跟你完全沒有開放這種方案\n\n12\n00:04:37,509 --> 00:04:52,146\n那你把故事們...因為這個有搭配我們的津貼是那個救保的津貼因為育嬰留庭以前都是一個月嘛我也買一個月給一個月那我們現在把它縮短到五天\n\n13\n00:04:53,027 --> 00:05:10,368\n那現在就是比例給可是你用小時的話但是小時五個兩小時也是十小時他的小時不是說我一次請兩小時而是說我固定比如說禮拜一到禮拜五我都四點鐘下班可以接送小孩就是在小孩幾歲前\n\n14\n00:05:11,169 --> 00:05:32,896\n是這個意思就是說不是像請試駕一樣當然那樣子的機會可能是比較小的但是如果要預先請的話應該是這樣規劃那我想這個限制過多沒有足夠的彈性價的彈性加上沒有配套跟看不到完整規劃委員我們現在是這樣這個有一些做法示範它其實是說\n\n15\n00:05:34,036 --> 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請許部長範圍好部長午安我想今天大家都很關心性平三法的修正我也跟勞動部開過會包含就是細項的部分要請你們處理這部分因為今天時間有限我就不再細講好不好\n83892\t111160\t那之前勞動部答應的部分如何輔導企業跟這個謀合期我會繼續監督那再來我想今天剛剛包含洪森和委員好像好幾位委員都反映過你們5月要試辦的彈性育嬰假有蠻多問題的我想請問部長您在選舉期間有沒有看過我們三位總統候選人的婦女跟性別相關的證件\n112571\t137525\t您有看過嗎?沒有?您的表情好像沒看過那您知不知道裡面有一些是勞動部應該要負責的部分?沒有那顯然我比您關心跟勞動部相關的性平政見那這個彈性育嬰假這五個字是我們賴清德未來的總統的婦女跟性別政見請問您知不知道?有\n139839\t163440\t有知道所以我雖然肯定您知道這個事然後有推這個部分可是目前你們規劃出來這個5月要執行的方案說實在的讓大家據說是擔心跟有點失望不知道我們部長曉不曉得我們長期推動這個議題的民間團體是哪一兩個您知道嗎\n172271\t183936\t負女心之跟其他的婦女團體,可是你們在設計的過程有找這些長期推動的團體來討論,然後最後方案出來的時候,他們知道是設計成這樣嗎?\n191215\t202580\t我請部長回答因為這是賴清德未來總統重要的政見跟勞動部有關的之前我記得我們有找過跟相關團體開過會有開過會但是後來你們這個草案出來的時候他們並不知道長成這樣跟他們想像很不一樣的\n209983\t225394\t因為包含那個林淑芬委員有上一任我們就提案了我們其實這個是這樣就是說我們先試辦然後如果能夠做的部分影響比較小先往前推然後看看有一些回饋回來我們可以做日後可能要\n226094\t249626\t做進一步往前推展的一個參考。我知道部長您的好意是說先求有再求好可是你若一開始就設計錯了就不好用了對不對他就會成效不彰事辦結果成效不彰就會讓他被覺得是個不好的政策所以一開始我們先不要講剛剛洪委員有講過缺乏誘因了\n250306\t276989\t限制你這邊限制至少5天或7天然後自己又說但是也得一次一天那可是呢像我跟林淑芬委員我們上一屆就提出來的就是蠻多團體主張應該以小時為單位比如說你如果接送小孩可能是對企業來講可能也是比較好的他知道他每天4點鐘可以提早下班也許影響是比較小的跟你完全沒有開放這種方案\n277509\t292146\t那你把故事們...因為這個有搭配我們的津貼是那個救保的津貼因為育嬰留庭以前都是一個月嘛我也買一個月給一個月那我們現在把它縮短到五天\n293027\t310368\t那現在就是比例給可是你用小時的話但是小時五個兩小時也是十小時他的小時不是說我一次請兩小時而是說我固定比如說禮拜一到禮拜五我都四點鐘下班可以接送小孩就是在小孩幾歲前\n311169\t332896\t是這個意思就是說不是像請試駕一樣當然那樣子的機會可能是比較小的但是如果要預先請的話應該是這樣規劃那我想這個限制過多沒有足夠的彈性價的彈性加上沒有配套跟看不到完整規劃委員我們現在是這樣這個有一些做法示範它其實是說\n334036\t349633\t做一個我們收集意見,而且從實務上來瞭解問題,務實瞭解問題所在。有時候企業你要去鼓勵他亂看看嘛,如果說之後看他們的回饋,怎麼樣可以做未來說法呢?\n353817\t373148\t這個部分當然因為這是一個新的計畫那你說誘因這個部分我們再來想想看但是我的意思是說我們現在是先鼓勵包括分部門自己來帶頭做起也包括一些工商團體 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請許部長範圍好部長午安我想今天大家都很關心性平三法的修正我也跟勞動部開過會包含就是細項的部分要請你們處理這部分因為今天時間有限我就不再細講好不好\n那之前勞動部答應的部分如何輔導企業跟這個謀合期我會繼續監督那再來我想今天剛剛包含洪森和委員好像好幾位委員都反映過你們5月要試辦的彈性育嬰假有蠻多問題的我想請問部長您在選舉期間有沒有看過我們三位總統候選人的婦女跟性別相關的證件\n您有看過嗎?沒有?您的表情好像沒看過那您知不知道裡面有一些是勞動部應該要負責的部分?沒有那顯然我比您關心跟勞動部相關的性平政見那這個彈性育嬰假這五個字是我們賴清德未來的總統的婦女跟性別政見請問您知不知道?有\n有知道所以我雖然肯定您知道這個事然後有推這個部分可是目前你們規劃出來這個5月要執行的方案說實在的讓大家據說是擔心跟有點失望不知道我們部長曉不曉得我們長期推動這個議題的民間團體是哪一兩個您知道嗎\n負女心之跟其他的婦女團體,可是你們在設計的過程有找這些長期推動的團體來討論,然後最後方案出來的時候,他們知道是設計成這樣嗎?\n我請部長回答因為這是賴清德未來總統重要的政見跟勞動部有關的之前我記得我們有找過跟相關團體開過會有開過會但是後來你們這個草案出來的時候他們並不知道長成這樣跟他們想像很不一樣的\n因為包含那個林淑芬委員有上一任我們就提案了我們其實這個是這樣就是說我們先試辦然後如果能夠做的部分影響比較小先往前推然後看看有一些回饋回來我們可以做日後可能要\n做進一步往前推展的一個參考。我知道部長您的好意是說先求有再求好可是你若一開始就設計錯了就不好用了對不對他就會成效不彰事辦結果成效不彰就會讓他被覺得是個不好的政策所以一開始我們先不要講剛剛洪委員有講過缺乏誘因了\n限制你這邊限制至少5天或7天然後自己又說但是也得一次一天那可是呢像我跟林淑芬委員我們上一屆就提出來的就是蠻多團體主張應該以小時為單位比如說你如果接送小孩可能是對企業來講可能也是比較好的他知道他每天4點鐘可以提早下班也許影響是比較小的跟你完全沒有開放這種方案\n那你把故事們...因為這個有搭配我們的津貼是那個救保的津貼因為育嬰留庭以前都是一個月嘛我也買一個月給一個月那我們現在把它縮短到五天\n那現在就是比例給可是你用小時的話但是小時五個兩小時也是十小時他的小時不是說我一次請兩小時而是說我固定比如說禮拜一到禮拜五我都四點鐘下班可以接送小孩就是在小孩幾歲前\n是這個意思就是說不是像請試駕一樣當然那樣子的機會可能是比較小的但是如果要預先請的話應該是這樣規劃那我想這個限制過多沒有足夠的彈性價的彈性加上沒有配套跟看不到完整規劃委員我們現在是這樣這個有一些做法示範它其實是說\n做一個我們收集意見,而且從實務上來瞭解問題,務實瞭解問題所在。有時候企業你要去鼓勵他亂看看嘛,如果說之後看他們的回饋,怎麼樣可以做未來說法呢?\n這個部分當然因為這是一個新的計畫那你說誘因這個部分我們再來想想看但是我的意思是說我們現在是先鼓勵包括分部門自己來帶頭做起也包括一些工商團體 不好意思部長因為時間到了剛剛我的臨時提案裡面已經包含這幾項都要檢討了\n所以現在其實您是沒有理由只有延長就是說截止的時間這個我尊重就是那個司長的意見就是那個部分修正所以其實都要檢討包含就是請你們主推的公民環境針對你們五月上路的方案也要在開會檢討好不好那我是希望一個\n好的議題不要因為你們的設計的不夠有彈性不夠好最後出現讓大家不想看到的結果然後變成是一個失敗的政策好不好那也請部長會實行我們剛通過的零食跨黨派通過零食提案然後我也會監督這個部分好謝謝部長好謝謝接下來我們請\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.911 --> 00:28.277\n請質詢。好,謝謝昭緯,那待會要請部長,但是也請昭緯,謝謝昭緯辦今天這個跟性別平等有關的部分,那可不可以跟我們傅坤祺總召講一下,因為我要求修改立法院行為法的回應,親自送我的版本給他,那希望我們第一大黨可以支持。\n\n00:29.097 --> 00:56.319\n因為根據我們MeToo之後的三法性騷擾防治法中場所的主人應該訂定行為人的懲處的部分那立法院就算不是我們的雇主也是場所的主人嘛本來就應該依照性騷擾法的規定訂定在這個場所性騷擾的就是這個所謂的加害人的懲處可是那個目前就是看起來沒有任何的回應所以請那個召委幫忙請傅坤祺總召回應一下好嗎\n\n00:58.257 --> 01:03.080\n好來那我們進行質詢部長有請好來請許部長範圍好部長午安我想今天大家都很關心性平三法的修正我也跟勞動部開過會包含就是細項的部分要請你們處理這部分因為今天時間有限我就不再細講好不好\n\n01:23.892 --> 01:51.160\n那之前勞動部答應的部分如何輔導企業跟這個謀合期我會繼續監督那再來我想今天剛剛包含洪森和委員好像好幾位委員都反映過你們5月要試辦的彈性育嬰假有蠻多問題的我想請問部長您在選舉期間有沒有看過我們三位總統候選人的婦女跟性別相關的證件\n\n01:52.571 --> 02:17.525\n您有看過嗎?沒有?您的表情好像沒看過那您知不知道裡面有一些是勞動部應該要負責的部分?沒有那顯然我比您關心跟勞動部相關的性平政見那這個彈性育嬰假這五個字是我們賴清德未來的總統的婦女跟性別政見請問您知不知道?有\n\n02:19.839 --> 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