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12:04:39","影片長度":"00:10:54","會議時間":"2024-03-21T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請教育部列席就「落實特殊教育法配套措施及普特融合教育實施概況」進行專題報告，並備質詢。（3月18日、20日及21日三天一次會））","meet":{"tmpMeeting":null,"title":"第11屆第1會期教育及文化委員會第4次全體委員會議","term":11,"type":"委員會","sessionPeriod":1,"sessionTimes":4,"committees":[22],"id":"委員會-11-1-22-4"},"date":"2024-03-21","duration":654,"end_time":"2024-03-21T12:04:39+08:00","start_time":"2024-03-21T11:53:45+08:00","features":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"type":"Clip","gazette":{"lineno":645,"blocks":[["陳委員秀寳：（11時53分）謝謝主席，請次長。"],["林次長騰蛟：陳委員好。"],["陳委員秀寳：次長早，日前傳出特教生在課堂毆打老師事件之後，讓大家都更關心融合式教育的相關人力及配套措施，我們臺灣從1997年修正特殊教育法開始推融合教育，就是希望讓特殊生跟其他學生在一起學習成長，然後融入學校，並為他未來進入社會作先行的準備。但融合教育推動了27年將近30年，有些不夠完善的地方還是需要再改進。根據統計資料顯示，臺灣有超過12萬的特殊生，有近九成都在普通班就讀，顯示融合教育的相關配套措施格外重要。在融合教育的教育現場，導師或教師同時要兼顧特殊生跟其他學生的教學需求，也需要花費更多的時間跟精力帶領班級，因為如果希望每個孩子能夠在學習上、在教導上都能夠得到照顧，他必須要付出更多的時間跟精力，無論是課程的進度，或者是觀察學生的互動狀況，也相當考驗教師的能力。教師團體也指出融合教育的初衷是好的，但是多數教師如果沒有受過特殊專業的特教培訓，可能很難同時兼顧所有的學生。教育部在這個事件之後，你們回應有安置身心障礙學生的班級，校方如果認為需要減少班級人數，可以報請主管機關，請鑑輔會評估之後，減少班級裡面的人數，每班安置特殊生1人，就可以減少班級人數1至3人；如果特殊生比較多的學校，會專案增置教師或相關人力。","請教次長，教育部在這個事件發生後，除了降低班級人數之外，有沒有檢討相關配套措施，檢討這個機制？譬如增加教師的特教相關職能課程，你們有沒有去研議這個部分？"],["林次長騰蛟：是，剛剛委員提到增置特教教師和特教助理員，包括月薪制的以及鐘點時數制，經費跟人力相關的增加，月薪制部分從今年開始每一年會增加400位，4年增加1,600位，另外……"],["陳委員秀寳：這個部分是你們預估從113學年度開始會增加特教助理員400人，累積到116年，你們會增加到1,600人。"],["林次長騰蛟：對，這個是月薪制。"],["陳委員秀寳：也就是說，教育部本來評估人力的這個配置就知道有落差？那好，在人還沒有補齊之前，還沒有補到1,600人之前，針對這樣子的教育現場，你們有什麼配套措施來協助？"],["林次長騰蛟：跟委員報告，目前就是滿足特教學生的特教助理員時數的部分，目前是78%，就是申請的跟我們核准的占78%。未來就透過包含重度以上的身心障礙學生有月薪制助理員來協助，其他還是有時薪部分的助理員，這部分經費也會再持續增加。所以未來對於身心障礙學生的照顧，反映在特教助理員時數的部分，應該會比以前更為周延。剛剛委員……"],["陳委員秀寳：本席希望教育部應該傾聽教育現場的聲音，你們儘快研議，除了提升人力配置之外，是不是剛才本席所提到的特教相關職能課程，有這樣的課程可以培訓教師，讓他們除了教學的品質及兼顧學生權益之外，面對突發狀況他們才會有這樣的能力，知道怎麼去應付這樣子突發的狀況。"],["林次長騰蛟：是。"],["陳委員秀寳：在去年5月的時候，我們14年沒有修正的特殊教育法進行全盤修正，修正的內容包括特諮會委員的名單以及會議紀錄要上網公開，讓資訊可以更透明；增訂鑑輔會委員要增加特教家長團體及衛生機關、主管機關代表；增訂校內外實習，不得有歧視對待的規定；特教老師的心評工作也可以酌減基本教學的時數，並簡化流程種種，我們其實已經有把各方的建議儘量納入去修正。但是雖然我們很認真地去對待，修法案的期間廣納各方意見，但是一定還有遺漏、未完善的部分。","這個禮拜二本席跟陳培瑜委員、月琴委員、范雲委員及郭昱晴委員共同召開了特殊教育座談會，會議中其實非常踴躍地各團體都提出他們相關的訴求，例如降低教師師生比，特教生交通車、特教助理員待遇、心評專職化，以及特教老師代理偏高、特教生就業的問題，當天教育部林明裕政務次長也代表教育部出席，教文委員會的各位委員都非常關心特殊教育的辦理狀況。本席希望教育部聽到了各團體所表述的這些訴求，你們能夠很認真去看待他們提出的相關需要協助的地方，那你們也認真去研議，尤其是家長跟教師都非常關心的師生比問題。","我現在想請教次長，對他們所需要的這些協助或訴求，教育部現在有怎樣的規劃？"],["林次長騰蛟：跟委員報告一下，去年6月份特教法修正通過之後，也包含委員在修法時的一些相關建議，我們都納到35個子法裡面來做增訂，並配合相關計畫來辦理，所以包含剛剛提到的降低特教師生比，我們也分別針對國小、國中、高中以及幼兒園，預計以5年到8年的時間達成1比8、1比10、1比15的目標，目前都規定在相關子法以及相關計畫來做處理。"],["陳委員秀寳：次長，星期二的座談會你也有參加，我們表達了一些相關的議題，你們應該都有帶回去……"],["林次長騰蛟：有，都帶回去了。"],["陳委員秀寳：也希望你們可以儘快研議。"],["林次長騰蛟：是的。"],["陳委員秀寳：我也請教育部這邊定期向我們教文委員會的委員報告相關議題的辦理進度。"],["林次長騰蛟：是。"],["陳委員秀寳：接下來我要請教次長的也是本席之前關心過的議題，最近傳出有某間私校的董事會宣布他們在113年起會依私立學校法停招、停辦，並且報請教育部核定，然而這所學校113年度仍舊有教育部核定的330個招生名額。這個情況跟去年本席關心過的中部某大學一樣，學生可能在錄取之後馬上又要被安置到其他的學校。次長，本席之前有要求在學測的個人申請招生簡章內要警示學生，把即將停招的大專院校列出來，請問在技職體系學校的招生簡章上面會不會比照辦理，提醒學生有哪些學校即將停招？"],["林次長騰蛟：委員這個訊息是指大漢技術學院，它是在3月11日函請本部同意在它停辦計畫核定前暫緩辦理113學年度的招生，所以它是暫緩今年度的招生，這個部分我們技職司目前應該正在審核當中，後續也會列到招生系統上面，對外做一個公告和處理。"],["陳委員秀寳：因為他們的董事會已經做出要暫緩招生、暫停招生的決定了，所以教育部核給它的三百多個名額也要儘快去處理。"],["林次長騰蛟：對，是的。"],["陳委員秀寳：所以本席希望教育部應該檢討相關的招生核定流程，如果學校已經傳出要停招，你們應該主動積極地去跟學校溝通已經核定的這些招生名額該如何處理。你們現在已經啟動這個機制去處理名額的部分了嗎？"],["林次長騰蛟：有關核定名額的部分，我們會檢視招生管道公告的招生訊息，避免影響考生的權益，這個部分我們會請法人、學校的部分依照相關規定來辦理。"],["陳委員秀寳：請學校辦理？但是教育部有沒有主動去介入、去協調這些名額該如何處理？這些學生我們以後可能會怎麼處理？"],["胡專門委員士琳：跟委員說明，目前我們會再積極跟法人來協調學校，針對這些已經核定的名額做後續的處理。"],["陳委員秀寳：所以還沒？"],["胡專門委員士琳：已經在……"],["陳委員秀寳：你們知道這個訊息之後，還沒有去啟動這個機制，也還沒有主動協助的方案？"],["胡專門委員士琳：對，目前是請學校檢視他們已經對外公告的簡章，法人的部分也已經函給教育部說他們希望在停辦計畫核定之前先停止招生作業，我們也已經回函給學校，請法人來協調學校儘速辦理。"],["陳委員秀寳：這個部分真的要請教育部更積極一點，不能每次都是學校錄取之後又馬上停辦，然後轉由教育部來安置這些學生，這樣的流程不但造成行政資源的浪費，也嚴重影響學生的權益，這個部分是不是教育部要有一點警覺，就是如果有學校傳出這樣的狀況，你們要馬上主動協助處理名額的問題還有招生簡章的警示問題？"],["林次長騰蛟：是的，這涉及……"],["陳委員秀寳：因為這不是第一次遇到了！"],["林次長騰蛟：我們會積極來處理啦！當然，最好是在簡章還沒有公布之前就已經報准，包含停招或者是緩招的計畫，未來在流程上面我們會來做個檢討。"],["陳委員秀寳：針對這個學校後續的辦理狀況，你們再給本席辦公室報告一下進度。"],["林次長騰蛟：好的，我們再跟委員做個說明。"],["陳委員秀寳：謝謝。"],["林次長騰蛟：謝謝陳委員，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝。","現在先處理臨時提案。今天委員提出的臨時提案共計8案，請宣讀。","一、","案由：基層特教老師陳情指出，國教署以專案形式增補的特教代理老師與專案助理人力，遲未跟進今年軍公教的統一薪資調幅4%，然校內其他處室之專案行政人力早已跟進調薪，恐有損第一線特教相關專業人員權益、亦不利人才持續投入特殊教育服務。教育部應盡速發函予各校、明定特教相關專案人力薪資待遇跟進軍公教薪資調幅，以維特教專業人員權益。","提案人：范　雲　　吳沛憶　　陳培瑜　　郭昱晴　　林倩綺","二、","案由：","據統計，有96%特教生就讀於一般學校、其中更有89.9%是以集中式特教班之外的方式安置，顯見普特融合是教學現場必須加以因應的現況；然而，特教基層老師長期反應，教學現場部份普師特教知能不足、特教代理老師甚至無證教師比例居高不下、特教助理員低薪且人力不足、特教加給被凍漲32年等，「人力與資源」成特教現場最大挑戰。","教育部於去年《特殊教育法》修正後所頒佈的「第二期特殊教育中程計畫」中，卻未針對教學現場「人力與資源」之困境提出解方，教育部應邀集基層特教老師與相關團體諮詢討論、檢討前述計畫、提出具體增補人力與資源之計畫，讓第一線特教老師獲得足夠的支援，並讓特教生獲得良好照顧與學習。","提案人：范　雲　　吳沛憶　　陳培瑜　　郭昱晴　　林倩綺","三、","案由：有鑑於教育部基於「教育平權」理念，公私立高中職全面免學費，並將家庭年所得148萬元以上之學生納入學費補助對象，顯見為落實國家教育平權，不以家庭條件、所得等思維考量。惟現行部份國中直升高中之私立學校學生受限於「高級中等教育法」暨相關法律配套，未能免除學費，無法達成全面「教育平權」。爰建請教育部針對高級中等教育法第36條研議相關配套措施，落實高中職全面免學費政策。","提案人：葉元之","連署人：吳春城　　柯志恩　　林倩綺　　范　雲","四、","案由：","有鑑於現行高中以下學校暴力事件與偏差行為校安通報件數逐年升高，以112年為例，國小9,370件、國中8,339件、高中8,462件，111年國小僅4,828件、國中5,274件、高中6,162件，顯見校安人員需求極大，爰建請教育部就國中增聘校安人力進行研究，並於兩個月內向立法院教育及文化委員會提出初步研究報告及未來校安人力配置之政策規劃書面報告。","提案人：葉元之","連署人：吳春城　　柯志恩　　林倩綺　　范　雲","五、","有鑑於新修訂《特殊教育法》第38條提供學校之服務內容新增「運動輔具服務」與「適應體育服務」，且國際專家於「身心障礙者權利公約第二次國家報告國際審查結論性意見」指出：「針對負責青少年被拘留者，特別是身心障礙被拘留者的適應訓練、復健、教育、支持和處遇的權責機關建立密切的聯繫和合作，包括但不限於法務部矯正署、衛生福利部及教育部。」惟《教育部體育署補助推動學校體育運動發展經費原則》第三條規定申請之學校單位限於「教育部主管之各級學校」，致使矯正學校無法向體育署申請適應體育資源。為保障矯正學校內特教生享有適應體育服務之權利，爰請教育部於三個月內修正《教育部體育署補助推動學校體育運動發展經費原則》，增加「法務部主管之矯正學校」。","提案人：陳培瑜","連署人：吳沛憶　　范　雲　　郭昱晴　　林倩綺","六、","為確實保障特教師生及特教助理人員之權益及知能，爰請教育部於三個月內完成下列事項，並提供書面報告予教文委員會：","1.盤點明道大學、環球科技大學、大同技術學院及東方設計大學四所退場大學特教學生困境，協助安排新校園生活協助人力、無障礙環境等措施，並持續追蹤學校退場後，特教生就學與適應情形。","2.提升特教助理員待遇，並提出特教助理員進階增能課程，建構相關機制使特教助理員服務個案前，提供更充足的個案相關資訊及課程。","3.研擬具有系統性的普教教師增能計畫，以及特殊教育教學指引，落實融合教育的核心精神。","提案人：陳培瑜　　范　雲","連署人：郭昱晴　　吳沛憶　　林倩綺","七、","鑒於足協自去年起長期對球員、職員欠款問題，自本委員會去年五月起即有諸多跨黨派立委持續關切，然體育署卻始終以「足協負債問題」推託，形同認可足協債務成本轉嫁球員與職員之荒謬邏輯，自我閹割監督責任，拒絕為居於權力弱勢之球員與職員主張權益。直至近日相關討論延燒到時任足協秘書長之體育署長有稅務登載不實的問題後，昨日方由體育署與足協各自發表聲明，表示將於兩週內歸還部分款項，顯見足協並非無法償還，而是在體育署容許下拖延償還。","考量足協近日種種荒腔走板事蹟以及體育署在足協監督上明顯失能甚至是配合足協說法行事，爰要求教育部不應僅以體育署「發函要求」此等消極作為處理本案，而應直接啟動國民體育法第35條「隨時派員或委請會計師偕同體育專業公正人士檢查其財務報表……」條款，即日同步確認足協積欠所有自然人與法人之款項明細（包含但不限於足協所稱之111年國男泰國移訓暨友誼賽、五人制男子潛力培訓隊賽前國內集訓暨科威特參加2022五人制亞洲盃決賽、企甲聯賽年度個人及團體獎項獎金、木蘭聯賽年度個人及團體獎項獎金、台乙聯賽個人及團體獎項獎金、訓練中心計畫、講習講師費、會議出席費、各賽事工作費，如職員代墊款項等），並在教育部與會計師監督下，於兩週內通知所有債權人欠款明細，並於一個月內由教育部提出本案自去年五月至今，體育署各種消極行政致使社會與球員對於體育署監督單項協會能力喪失信心之檢討。","提案人：柯志恩　　陳培瑜　　葛如鈞　　林倩綺　　范　雲","八、","案由：鑒於高中以下特教學生人數逐年攀升，各級學校校園內許多無障礙設施，多已年久失修甚至不符現行法規，許多教學設施設備亦須汰舊換新，亟待充足經費進行修繕翻新及添購；此外為給予全國特教師生更好的教學及學習環境，爰要求教育部應比照「學校操場跑道及周邊設施整建」及「老舊廁所整修」等專案補助經費，於三個月內盤點各縣市各級學校校內無障礙設施及特教師生教學設施設備之改善及添購須求，並向行政院爭取專案補助經費。","提案人：萬美玲　　羅廷瑋","連署人：洪孟楷　　范　雲　　林倩綺　　柯志恩"],["主席：好，謝謝！我們現在就一案一案來處理，先看第1案，請問提案的范雲委員有沒有補充說明或意見？"],["范委員雲：沒有。"],["主席：沒有。請問教育部？"],["林次長騰蛟：第1案我們配合辦理。"],["主席：第1案照案通過。","第2案，提案的范雲委員有沒有意見？"],["范委員雲：沒有，我剛剛都講過了。"],["主席：剛剛都講過了。次長？"],["林次長騰蛟：我們配合辦理。"],["主席：照案通過。","第3案是葉元之委員。沒關係，因為我有幫他做連署，次長？"],["林次長騰蛟：我們建議配合實際上的狀況有一個文字上的小修正，在第四行「惟現行部分國中直升高中」，我們建議將「直升」這兩個字改成「透過單獨招生方式進入高中」。"],["主席：好，透過單獨招生，我們就修正之後通過，謝謝。","第4案也是葉元之委員，次長？"],["林次長騰蛟：配合辦理。"],["主席：好，配合辦理。","第5案是由陳培瑜委員所提出，委員有沒有要建議、說明的？好，剛剛已經溝通過了。次長？"],["林次長騰蛟：我們在倒數第二行的部分建議做文字上的修正，「爰請教育部於……」，原來是寫「三個月內」，我們建議修正為「今年8月底前」。另外，最後一行在經費原則雙引後面加上幾個字，「或是訂定矯正學校適應資源相關補助措施」，以上，謝謝。"],["主席：好，等一下喔！請委員說明。"],["陳委員培瑜：我現在看到的是「適應資源相關補助措施」，這個寫法到時候當然也會一併涵蓋我們剛剛在質詢時所討論到的適應體育項目，當然還有更廣的、其他的適應資源相關補助措施，這樣對嗎？"],["林次長騰蛟：是的，如果是對一般學校有的適應體育、適應資源的部分也可以擴及到矯正學校來辦理。"],["陳委員培瑜：好，謝謝。"],["主席：可以喔！好，我們就修正後通過。","接下來也是陳培瑜委員的第6案，我們請次長。"],["林次長騰蛟：第6案配合辦理。"],["主席：配合辦理。","第7案是由柯志恩委員所提出來的，剛剛也跟體育署做一些溝通，我想他們所修正的文字，我個人是OK，次長就……"],["林次長騰蛟：跟委員報告一下，因為這案修改的文字滿多，我要唸嗎？"],["主席：好，不用唸了。不過就是把一些對於體育署的文字改為稍微比較緩和的，但我們的重點還是希望在兩週之內能夠提出一個檢討，好不好？"],["林次長騰蛟：好，是，謝謝。"],["主席：就提出檢討，我們就是文字修正……"],["林次長騰蛟：委員是「並於一個月內」提出檢討，倒數第三行原來的文字只有一個月，可以嗎？"],["主席：我現在就在看倒數第三行，它是要兩週內請查……"],["林次長騰蛟：兩週內清查，對。"],["主席：對啊！兩週內清查，對不對？然後在一個月之內提出檢討，這樣可以嘛，我們把這件事情釐清。"],["林次長騰蛟：修正後我們配合辦理，是，謝謝委員。"],["主席：我們就修正後通過。","第8案，我們的提案人是萬美玲委員。請萬美玲委員說明。"],["萬委員美玲：好，謝謝召委。剛才因為教育部大致上是同意這個方向，不過好像是要來修正這個文字，我有提到三個月之內把它盤點完成，教育部的意思是要到8月底，原則上我是不同意啦，為什麼？因為現在每一個學校對於它自己學校裡面的設備、設施狀況是很清楚的，對於急需要改善身心障礙、無障礙空間跟特教生的需求也是很清楚的。剛才在質詢完以後，我也跟一些縣市的教育局長溝通過，他們也表示其實三個月之內是非常充裕的；同時，剛剛好像次長還是署長的意思是說，我們的公文已經下去了，要讓他們到8月底提報，現在我們把時間提成三個月，它會很倉促、會不完整，其實完全沒有這個問題，反而是他們都準備好了，在等待你們給予的這麼長時間，所以我覺得這件事情刻不容緩。我們來看不管是學校操場跑道專案，還是廁所的專案，其實都沒有拖這麼久。所以我想署長也好，大家也好，都有在地方做過各縣市教育局的局長，都能夠清楚知道三個月的時間是綽綽有餘，所以本席希望能夠維持三個月，以上。"],["林次長騰蛟：好，召委及提案的萬委員，我想針對剛剛萬委員建議的部分，我們還是跟萬委員商量一下，可不可以爭取多一點的時間。因為委員可能詢問的縣市跟學校，因為國教署可能會盤到22個縣市，22個縣市大概都會有這樣子的需求，縣市政府多，學校也非常、非常多，我們希望能夠盤得更清楚一點。"],["萬委員美玲：對不起！次長，你這樣講有點矛盾喔！你現在的意思是因為有22個縣市教育局、那麼多的學校，你整個要盤點，這變成送上來國教署的時間其實要快，你才有更多的時間去盤點，但是各校跟教育局是沒有問題的。你想想看每一個學校的校長對於學校狀況其實很瞭解的，有這樣的專案或是有這樣子詢問的需求，他們很快就送上來了，三個月的時間絕對夠，而且是從現在算起來的三個月。"],["林次長騰蛟：因為我們的函已經出去給各縣市政府，我是不是請彭署長補充說明一下？"],["彭署長富源：謝謝委員非常關心這件事情，所以希望能夠早一點幫國教署、還有幫各縣市完成。因為縣市有小到像連江縣這樣，在三個月內它應該做得完；但是也有比較大的像六都，尤其是新北學校很多，它幾乎是全國規模的六分之一。是不是我們儘量來鼓勵能夠早一點完成的縣市，我們跟他們一起來合作，有一些縣市的確需要比較久，我們也讓它比較完整，因為這次不是一般性、常常在盤點的項目，它是比較屬於有規範的特效項目，它要找對的人一起清查跟盤點，就是它要找專業的人一起盤點，不是校內總務人員就能盤點，因為這次涉及到的有一些是屬於國土署的規範，這個規範比較專業，在認定上它的盤點小組要找到專業人士，有些縣市規模比較大是不是給我們一點時間來幫忙他們，好不好？"],["萬委員美玲：這樣好不好，我覺得我們應該寫6月底，因為剛好一個學期，7月、8月暑假的時間，我們知道學校人力上面的調配也沒那麼多，老師也不在，行政也要輪值、輪班，所以我覺得6月底其實是很好的，趕快送上來以後，你們才有更多的時間去盤整一下到底這個計畫要跟行政院拿多少預算，所以6月底好不好？請主席裁示，謝謝。"],["林次長騰蛟：委員提到的6月底是各縣市政府報上來的時間，還是國教署這邊？"],["彭署長富源：對於委員所提的，剛才有跟委員報告過，它涉及到縣市的校數，其實差異很大。第二個，這次的清查跟盤點會涉及到項目的專業性，如果學校盤點出來以後，我們就會一直逐步幫它爭取，所以這一次給它比較完整的時間，有助於未來一次爭取經費的到位，否則到時候又說我沒有盤點完，屆時中間又一直要補強，這個可能會比較可惜。我也跟委員報告，比較小型的縣市我們督促它，是不是我們跟它合作早一點完成；大的縣市讓它久一點的時間，就用原來給它的函。但是中間剛才委員關心的幾個點，尤其是有些縣市已經很有經驗，也做完了，我們就先蒐集起來，這樣好不好？就不要是全國只能到8月底，有時候一講8月底，他們有可能到9月才交，這樣也可惜，是不是我們儘量8月底全部都做完，但是我們6月就啟動收件。"],["萬委員美玲：好，我想這樣好了，署長也很專業，署長既然這樣講了，那我同意，但我覺得是不是我們可以這樣附加，您能不能從現在開始將每個月、每個月的狀況，有多少縣市回來了、完成的比例是多少，每個月跟教文委員會回報一下好不好？讓我們知道你確實在做，因為老實講，我會這樣規範時間是因為對你們非常不放心。"],["彭署長富源：沒問題，我們會持續……"],["萬委員美玲：好，OK。"],["林次長騰蛟：謝謝委員，我們會積極來處理，目的還是希望能夠爭取到這個專案經費。所以委員是不是可以同意將「三個月」調整為「113年8月底前」，這樣可以嗎？但是我們中間會跟委員會做一個報告說明。"],["萬委員美玲：好啦！次長跟署長這樣講了，我們就8月底，但是我們希望你們每個月、每個月要讓我們知道一下現在進度到底百分比是多少，這樣好不好？謝謝。"],["主席：麻煩就如萬委員所要求的，每個月讓他瞭解進度，所以文字上還是在8月底就對了？OK，我們修正文字後就通過，謝謝。","如果各位委員有要補簽的，請議事人員詳加登載在我們的議事錄上。","接著我們進行質詢。","請林倩綺委員，謝謝。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":454,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-22-4","speakers":["柯志恩","萬美玲","洪孟楷","陳培瑜","葛如鈞","吳沛憶","郭昱晴","張雅琳","葉元之","林宜瑾","羅廷瑋","范雲","吳春城","王鴻薇","陳秀寳","林倩綺","黃珊珊","羅智強","何欣純","黃捷","楊瓊瓔"],"page_start":393,"meetingDate":["2024-03-21"],"gazette_id":"1131701","agenda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\"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:00,210 --> 00:00:00,231\n這邊請次長\n\n2\n00:00:08,681 --> 00:00:32,895\n日前傳出,特教生在課堂毆打老師這個事件發生之後﹐讓大家都更關心融合式教育的相關的人力以及這個配套的措施。我們台灣從1997年修正特殊教育法﹐開始推融合教育,就是我們希望讓特殊生﹐跟其他學生在一起學習成長﹐然後融入學校並為未來他如果進入社會﹐可以做先行的準備。\n\n3\n00:00:33,755 --> 00:01:00,155\n但我們融合教育推動了27將近30年來有些不夠完善的地方還是需要再改進根據統計的這個資料顯示臺灣有超過12萬的特殊生有近九成都在普通班就讀那顯示融合教育的相關的配套措施其實格外的重要在融合教育的教育現場導師或教師他同時要兼顧就是有特殊生跟其他學生的教學需求\n\n4\n00:01:00,635 --> 00:01:01,616\n指出融合教育的初衷是好的\n\n5\n00:01:24,215 --> 00:01:43,580\n但是多數的教師如果他沒有受過這個特殊這個專業的特教的這個培訓可能很難同時兼顧所有的學生那教育部在這個事件之後你們有回應說有安置身心障礙學生的這個班級呢校方如果說認為說這個需要減少這個班級人數可以報請主管機關提起建服會來評估之後減少班級裡面的人數那每班安置特殊生一人就可以減少班級的人數一到三人\n\n6\n00:01:54,302 --> 00:01:58,966\n教育部在這個事件發生後除了降低班級人數之外有沒有檢討相關配套措施的這些檢討這個機制如果比如說你們增加教師特教相關這個職能課程你們有沒有去研議這個部分\n\n7\n00:02:18,553 --> 00:02:41,944\n是,發言剛剛委員提到的,發言那個徵制這個特教的這個教師還有發言特教助理員,發言月薪制的以及那個終點實施制的這樣子的一個發言的經費跟人力的相關的增加發言那個月薪制的部分的話,從今年開始每一年會增加400位,4年增加1600位\n\n8\n00:02:43,024 --> 00:03:07,327\n這個部分是你們預估從113學年度開始會增加特教助理員400從累積到116你們會增加到1600人那也就是說教育部本來評估這個人力的配置就知道有落差那好在你人還沒有補齊之前還沒有補到1600人之前那你們針對這樣子的教育現場你們有什麼配套的措施來協助\n\n9\n00:03:08,373 --> 00:03:34,945\n跟委員報告一樣目前的部分的話就是滿足這個特教學生他們的這個特教助理員的時數的部分目前是78%就是申請的跟我們核准的部分佔78%那我未來的部分就透過包含重度以上的那個身心障礙學生有這個月薪制的這樣子的一個助理員來做一個協助其他還是有時薪的這個部分的一個助理員\n\n10\n00:03:35,725 --> 00:03:38,167\n本席希望說教育部你們應該挺聽教育現場的聲音﹖能你們盡快的來研議﹖除了說你們提升人力的配置之外﹖\n\n11\n00:03:59,281 --> 00:04:03,206\n是不是剛才本席所提到的就是特教相關的智能課程有這樣的課程可以來培訓教師讓他們除了說這個教學品質及兼顧學生的權益之外呢他們面對突發狀況他們才會有這樣的能力跟這樣的狀況知道怎麼去應付這樣子突發的狀況喔\n\n12\n00:04:17,265 --> 00:04:27,655\n在去年5月的時候我們14年沒有修正的特殊教育法進行全盤的修正那裡面的修正的內容包括特殊會委員的名單以及會議紀錄要上網公開讓資訊可以更透明也增訂了建府會委員要增加特教家長團體的代表以及衛生機關主管機關代表\n\n13\n00:04:37,244 --> 00:04:37,264\n陳秀寳議員\n\n14\n00:05:04,992 --> 00:05:10,799\n這個禮拜二．本席跟陳鵬宇委員．岳勤委員．范宇宇委員及各位群員．共同召開了特殊教育座談會．那會議中其實非常的踴躍．有各種各團體都提出他們相關的訴求．例如降低特教師生比．\n\n15\n00:05:21,633 --> 00:05:36,827\n特教生的交通車．還有特教助理員的待遇．新評專職化．以及特教老師代理偏高的問題．以及特教生的就業問題．當天教育部的林明玉政務次長．也代表教育部出席\n\n16\n00:05:37,688 --> 00:05:41,271\n教育委員會的各位委員都非常的關心特殊教育的辦理的狀況那本席希望說教育部你們聽到了各團體所表述的這些訴求你們能夠很認真的去看待他們提出的這些相關的這些需要協助的地方那你們也認真的去研議\n\n17\n00:05:57,006 --> 00:05:57,527\n在去年6月份特教法．\n\n18\n00:06:13,508 --> 00:06:32,749\n修正通過之後也包含了委員在當時修法的一些相關的很多的這個建議的部分我們都納到這個35個執法裡面那麼來做一個增訂以及配合相關的計畫來做一個辦理所以包含剛剛提到的降低那個特教的師生比的部分\n\n19\n00:06:33,169 --> 00:06:33,189\n陳秀寳議員\n\n20\n00:06:50,541 --> 00:06:51,001\n這也是本期之前有關心過的議題\n\n21\n00:07:12,048 --> 00:07:39,326\n最近也有傳出有某間私校董事會．宣布他們在113年起．會依私立學校法來停辦．並且將報請教育部這邊的合訂．然而呢．這個學校113年度．仍舊有教育部合訂的330個招生名額．這個情況跟去年本席關心過的．中部某大學一樣．學生可能在入局之後．馬上又要被安置到其他的學校．次長\n\n22\n00:07:40,126 --> 00:07:58,104\n本期之前有要求說在學測的個人申請招生檢上面要警示學生即將停招的大學院院校要列出來那請問在計職體系的學校的招生檢章上面會不會比照辦理來提醒學生有哪些學校即將停招\n\n23\n00:07:59,342 --> 00:08:28,157\n跟委員報告一下剛剛委員的這個訊息的部分是那個大漢這個技術學院他是在3月11日含請本部同意在他停辦計畫核定前他暫緩辦理113學年度的這個招生所以他是暫緩今年度的一個招生那這個部分的話目前我們其實是應該在審核當中然後後續的部分的話也會列到包含了我們的招生這個系統上面對外去做一個公告跟做一個處理\n\n24\n00:08:29,017 --> 00:08:52,588\n對,因為他已經做出了他董事會已經做出了要暫緩招生、暫停招生的這個決定了嘛那所以我們教育部合給他的這個300多個名額我們也要盡快去處理喔所以這邊本席希望說教育部應該檢討相關的招生的合訂流程如果學校他已經傳出要停招你們應該主動積極的去跟學校溝通已經合訂的這些招生名額該如何處理\n\n25\n00:08:53,388 --> 00:09:14,950\n你們現在已經有啟動這個機制嗎?已經去處理這個名額的部分了嗎?是,這個部分的基本上我們都會那個核定名額的部分的話會檢視學校的那個招生管道的公告的招生的訊息然後避免影響考生的權益這個部分我們會請法人請學校的部門依照這個規定來辦理\n\n26\n00:09:16,471 --> 00:09:27,400\n請學校辦理但是你們教育部有沒有主動的去介入去協調這些這些名額該如何處理這些學生我們以後可能會怎麼處理跟委員說明目前的話我們會積極在跟法人來協調學校來針對已經核定的這些名額做後續的一個處理所以還沒你們知道這個訊息之後你們還沒有去啟動這個機制還沒有去啟動這個主動的這個協助的這個方案還沒有\n\n27\n00:09:45,715 --> 00:09:58,621\n對目前是請學校檢視他已經對外公告的一個檢章那法人的部分也已經喊給教育部說他們希望在停辦計畫之前先停止他的這個招生作業那我們也已經回函給學校請法人來協調學校來進行\n\n28\n00:10:00,962 --> 00:10:19,336\n這個部分真的要請教育部你們更積極一點不能每次都是學校他入局之後又馬上停辦那要轉由教育部這邊來安置這些學生的這樣的流程這樣子不但造成我們行政資源的浪費也嚴重的影響學生的權益這個部分是不是教育部你們要有一點這樣的警覺如果說有學校傳出這樣的狀況你們要馬上可以主動的去協助來處理名額的問題還有招生檢張這個警示的問題\n\n29\n00:10:29,023 --> 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你們應該主動積極的去跟學校溝通已經合訂的這些招生名額該如何處理\n你們現在已經有啟動這個機制嗎?已經去處理這個名額的部分了嗎?是,這個部分的基本上我們都會那個核定名額的部分的話會檢視學校的那個招生管道的公告的招生的訊息然後避免影響考生的權益這個部分我們會請法人請學校的部門依照這個規定來辦理\n請學校辦理但是你們教育部有沒有主動的去介入去協調這些這些名額該如何處理這些學生我們以後可能會怎麼處理跟委員說明目前的話我們會積極在跟法人來協調學校來針對已經核定的這些名額做後續的一個處理所以還沒你們知道這個訊息之後你們還沒有去啟動這個機制還沒有去啟動這個主動的這個協助的這個方案還沒有\n對目前是請學校檢視他已經對外公告的一個檢章那法人的部分也已經喊給教育部說他們希望在停辦計畫之前先停止他的這個招生作業那我們也已經回函給學校請法人來協調學校來進行\n這個部分真的要請教育部你們更積極一點不能每次都是學校他入局之後又馬上停辦那要轉由教育部這邊來安置這些學生的這樣的流程這樣子不但造成我們行政資源的浪費也嚴重的影響學生的權益這個部分是不是教育部你們要有一點這樣的警覺如果說有學校傳出這樣的狀況你們要馬上可以主動的去協助來處理名額的問題還有招生檢張這個警示的問題\n陳秀寳議員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.210 --> 00:00.231\n這邊請次長\n\n00:08.681 --> 00:32.895\n日前傳出,特教生在課堂毆打老師這個事件發生之後﹐讓大家都更關心融合式教育的相關的人力以及這個配套的措施。我們台灣從1997年修正特殊教育法﹐開始推融合教育,就是我們希望讓特殊生﹐跟其他學生在一起學習成長﹐然後融入學校並為未來他如果進入社會﹐可以做先行的準備。\n\n00:33.755 --> 01:00.155\n但我們融合教育推動了27將近30年來有些不夠完善的地方還是需要再改進根據統計的這個資料顯示臺灣有超過12萬的特殊生有近九成都在普通班就讀那顯示融合教育的相關的配套措施其實格外的重要在融合教育的教育現場導師或教師他同時要兼顧就是有特殊生跟其他學生的教學需求\n\n01:00.635 --> 01:01.616\n指出融合教育的初衷是好的\n\n01:24.215 --> 01:43.580\n但是多數的教師如果他沒有受過這個特殊這個專業的特教的這個培訓可能很難同時兼顧所有的學生那教育部在這個事件之後你們有回應說有安置身心障礙學生的這個班級呢校方如果說認為說這個需要減少這個班級人數可以報請主管機關提起建服會來評估之後減少班級裡面的人數那每班安置特殊生一人就可以減少班級的人數一到三人\n\n01:54.302 --> 01:58.966\n教育部在這個事件發生後除了降低班級人數之外有沒有檢討相關配套措施的這些檢討這個機制如果比如說你們增加教師特教相關這個職能課程你們有沒有去研議這個部分\n\n02:18.553 --> 02:41.944\n是,發言剛剛委員提到的,發言那個徵制這個特教的這個教師還有發言特教助理員,發言月薪制的以及那個終點實施制的這樣子的一個發言的經費跟人力的相關的增加發言那個月薪制的部分的話,從今年開始每一年會增加400位,4年增加1600位\n\n02:43.024 --> 03:07.327\n這個部分是你們預估從113學年度開始會增加特教助理員400從累積到116你們會增加到1600人那也就是說教育部本來評估這個人力的配置就知道有落差那好在你人還沒有補齊之前還沒有補到1600人之前那你們針對這樣子的教育現場你們有什麼配套的措施來協助\n\n03:08.373 --> 03:34.945\n跟委員報告一樣目前的部分的話就是滿足這個特教學生他們的這個特教助理員的時數的部分目前是78%就是申請的跟我們核准的部分佔78%那我未來的部分就透過包含重度以上的那個身心障礙學生有這個月薪制的這樣子的一個助理員來做一個協助其他還是有時薪的這個部分的一個助理員\n\n03:35.725 --> 03:38.167\n本席希望說教育部你們應該挺聽教育現場的聲音﹖能你們盡快的來研議﹖除了說你們提升人力的配置之外﹖\n\n03:59.281 --> 04:03.206\n是不是剛才本席所提到的就是特教相關的智能課程有這樣的課程可以來培訓教師讓他們除了說這個教學品質及兼顧學生的權益之外呢他們面對突發狀況他們才會有這樣的能力跟這樣的狀況知道怎麼去應付這樣子突發的狀況喔\n\n04:17.265 --> 04:27.655\n在去年5月的時候我們14年沒有修正的特殊教育法進行全盤的修正那裡面的修正的內容包括特殊會委員的名單以及會議紀錄要上網公開讓資訊可以更透明也增訂了建府會委員要增加特教家長團體的代表以及衛生機關主管機關代表\n\n04:37.244 --> 04:37.264\n陳秀寳議員\n\n05:04.992 --> 05:10.799\n這個禮拜二．本席跟陳鵬宇委員．岳勤委員．范宇宇委員及各位群員．共同召開了特殊教育座談會．那會議中其實非常的踴躍．有各種各團體都提出他們相關的訴求．例如降低特教師生比．\n\n05:21.633 --> 05:36.827\n特教生的交通車．還有特教助理員的待遇．新評專職化．以及特教老師代理偏高的問題．以及特教生的就業問題．當天教育部的林明玉政務次長．也代表教育部出席\n\n05:37.688 --> 05:41.271\n教育委員會的各位委員都非常的關心特殊教育的辦理的狀況那本席希望說教育部你們聽到了各團體所表述的這些訴求你們能夠很認真的去看待他們提出的這些相關的這些需要協助的地方那你們也認真的去研議\n\n05:57.006 --> 05:57.527\n在去年6月份特教法．\n\n06:13.508 --> 06:32.749\n修正通過之後也包含了委員在當時修法的一些相關的很多的這個建議的部分我們都納到這個35個執法裡面那麼來做一個增訂以及配合相關的計畫來做一個辦理所以包含剛剛提到的降低那個特教的師生比的部分\n\n06:33.169 --> 06:33.189\n陳秀寳議員\n\n06:50.541 --> 06:51.001\n這也是本期之前有關心過的議題\n\n07:12.048 --> 07:39.326\n最近也有傳出有某間私校董事會．宣布他們在113年起．會依私立學校法來停辦．並且將報請教育部這邊的合訂．然而呢．這個學校113年度．仍舊有教育部合訂的330個招生名額．這個情況跟去年本席關心過的．中部某大學一樣．學生可能在入局之後．馬上又要被安置到其他的學校．次長\n\n07:40.126 --> 07:58.104\n本期之前有要求說在學測的個人申請招生檢上面要警示學生即將停招的大學院院校要列出來那請問在計職體系的學校的招生檢章上面會不會比照辦理來提醒學生有哪些學校即將停招\n\n07:59.342 --> 08:28.157\n跟委員報告一下剛剛委員的這個訊息的部分是那個大漢這個技術學院他是在3月11日含請本部同意在他停辦計畫核定前他暫緩辦理113學年度的這個招生所以他是暫緩今年度的一個招生那這個部分的話目前我們其實是應該在審核當中然後後續的部分的話也會列到包含了我們的招生這個系統上面對外去做一個公告跟做一個處理\n\n08:29.017 --> 08:52.588\n對,因為他已經做出了他董事會已經做出了要暫緩招生、暫停招生的這個決定了嘛那所以我們教育部合給他的這個300多個名額我們也要盡快去處理喔所以這邊本席希望說教育部應該檢討相關的招生的合訂流程如果學校他已經傳出要停招你們應該主動積極的去跟學校溝通已經合訂的這些招生名額該如何處理\n\n08:53.388 --> 09:14.950\n你們現在已經有啟動這個機制嗎?已經去處理這個名額的部分了嗎?是,這個部分的基本上我們都會那個核定名額的部分的話會檢視學校的那個招生管道的公告的招生的訊息然後避免影響考生的權益這個部分我們會請法人請學校的部門依照這個規定來辦理\n\n09:16.471 --> 09:27.400\n請學校辦理但是你們教育部有沒有主動的去介入去協調這些這些名額該如何處理這些學生我們以後可能會怎麼處理跟委員說明目前的話我們會積極在跟法人來協調學校來針對已經核定的這些名額做後續的一個處理所以還沒你們知道這個訊息之後你們還沒有去啟動這個機制還沒有去啟動這個主動的這個協助的這個方案還沒有\n\n09:45.715 --> 09:58.621\n對目前是請學校檢視他已經對外公告的一個檢章那法人的部分也已經喊給教育部說他們希望在停辦計畫之前先停止他的這個招生作業那我們也已經回函給學校請法人來協調學校來進行\n\n10:00.962 --> 10:19.336\n這個部分真的要請教育部你們更積極一點不能每次都是學校他入局之後又馬上停辦那要轉由教育部這邊來安置這些學生的這樣的流程這樣子不但造成我們行政資源的浪費也嚴重的影響學生的權益這個部分是不是教育部你們要有一點這樣的警覺如果說有學校傳出這樣的狀況你們要馬上可以主動的去協助來處理名額的問題還有招生檢張這個警示的問題\n\n10:29.023 --> 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