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00:02:51,234\n那各單位可能都會有一些評估的角度那我剛剛特別跟委員說明的是從我們國安局國安的角度來講國安的立場那兩個立場是我們在討論過程當中包括委員討論過程當中我們必須要提醒大家一起來注意的好那再請教我們現在也看到說準副總統蕭美琴她低調的有去做訪歐還有去捷克等等的一個照片那請教這個相關的行程到底算是公務行程還是私人行程\n\n8\n00:02:51,414 --> 00:02:52,535\n請教的是說我們國安單位有沒有協助或是介入\n\n9\n00:03:11,256 --> 00:03:27,410\n我們必須要針對維安的部分提供必要的依法必須要提供必要的在行程的部分沒有行程我們沒有行程的部分沒有我們外交部來規劃吳釗燮部長講說如果說中共生氣了就是我們做對了那既然強調我們的話這就代表不是私人行程不是嗎\n\n10\n00:03:28,246 --> 00:03:41,946\n這尊重外交部對外的一些說法但就我們對於形成的理解主要都是民間智庫的教育活動局長以國安角度因為你剛一直強調都國安國安喔是那我想請教你認同外交部部長講的這句話嗎\n\n11\n00:03:43,308 --> 00:04:01,215\n因為我不知道他在回答委員的背景還有相關的問題意思是什麼我沒有辦法去在這個地方做評論我們當然都支持也認同希望中華民國能夠走出去甚至我也講說任何國家機關都不應該要忽視中華民國存在的事實可是如果說\n\n12\n00:04:02,475 --> 00:04:18,122\n只要中共生氣了就是我們做對了這句話到底有沒有問題啊我們的元首副元首或是準元首準副元首出訪是到底他的目的是以增進中華民國在國際的能見度還是只是要惹人家生氣就好\n\n13\n00:04:18,749 --> 00:04:19,729\n所以我們最重點還是能夠增進中華民國在國際上的能見度嗎?當然是不是?\n\n14\n00:04:45,594 --> 00:05:09,406\n對這個很重要那各國的反應我們也要注意好最後一個部分我還是一分鐘請教一下剛剛我提到那個我們黃宏偉委員有講到這個憲兵這個指揮部的一個部分剛剛我特別確認一下我們的指揮官因為本期也是我們後線的一份子我是拐動士期畢業所以說我特別感謝我們憲兵給我的這些指導\n\n15\n00:05:10,302 --> 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