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00:02:29,035\n以前在國民大會期間總統威權時代的總統都還會去報告包括兩位蔣總統那後來民主化以後李登輝總統也到國民大會報告反而是修憲以後的總統從來沒有到過立法院報告這是我們立法院自己職權的弱化這才是問題所以我個人的意見很簡單不管有沒有這個修法\n\n8\n00:02:29,966 --> 00:02:55,253\n我們邀請總統來報告應該是勢在必行而且應該先開這個憲政的慣例您同意嗎委員如果有這個共識我當然同意因為憲憲法裡面在15條之後本來就有所以不用爭吵所以也沒有什麼毀憲亂政的問題只是來到這邊它的內容在現在的職權行使法裡面也非常清楚\n\n9\n00:02:55,973 --> 00:03:23,317\n立法院與總統國情報告完畢後得就報告不明了處提出問題表示是可以問的只是其發言時間人數順序政黨比例由黨團協商決定其不用到修法也可以用黨團協商決定發言的人數順序政黨比例跟時間所以包括是不是急問急答在目前為止如果沒有修法的時候也可以用政黨協商來代替秘書長同意嗎\n\n10\n00:03:25,843 --> 00:03:33,487\n這回要補充一下因為有第三項在第三項要經總統同意對因為這第三項的寫法下就是剛才所說的因為第二項裡面可能這一個跟第三項總統要不要同意啊這其實不是憲法問題也不是法律問題是人要不要同意的問題嘛\n\n11\n00:03:51,175 --> 00:04:08,427\n所以這麼簡單的事情把它弄到憲法層次還請了司法院來我覺得有點奇怪但是我覺得這件事情很簡單如果立法院要展現我們是一個民主的殿堂我們其實應該是黨各黨都有共識總統應該要到立法院做國情報告\n\n12\n00:04:09,207 --> 00:04:09,447\n王珊珊\n\n13\n00:04:25,780 --> 00:04:53,848\n因為一直挨罵沒有辦法回應反而是急問急答行政官員可以及時的來澄清來辯護我反而覺得站在被詢答的角度應該是非常樂意甚至希望急問急答的所以我也建議現在執政黨也不用這麼緊張以賴清德總統的口才我相信他也不會有任何的任何的站在下風啦我想這個部分秘書長\n\n14\n00:04:54,488 --> 00:04:55,448\n另外一個就是我想問一下秘書長有關\n\n15\n00:05:14,434 --> 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