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17:18:17","影片長度":"00:15:21","會議時間":"2024-03-22T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"第11屆第1會期第6次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。\n二、3月22日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。\n三、3月26日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。）","meet":{"tmpMeeting":null,"title":"立法院第11屆第1會期第6次會議","id":"院會-11-1-6","type":"院會","term":11,"sessionPeriod":1,"sessionTimes":6},"date":"2024-03-22","duration":921,"end_time":"2024-03-22T17:18:17+08:00","start_time":"2024-03-22T17:02:56+08:00","features":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"type":"Clip","gazette":{"lineno":938,"blocks":[["賴委員瑞隆：（17時2分）謝謝院長，請陳院長。"],["主席：再請陳院長備詢。"],["陳院長建仁：賴委員午安。"],["賴委員瑞隆：院長好。院長，其實明天也是香港重要的一天，香港離臺灣很近，但是香港這一段時間以來的變化其實臺灣高度關注，最近看到香港基本法23條快速地去做修訂，他們已經實施了，我個人其實認為這對香港來說是自由人權上面很沉重的一天。"],["陳院長建仁：對，確實。"],["賴委員瑞隆：院長怎麼看待？"],["陳院長建仁：我其實對香港一直寄予厚望，因為香港算是在亞洲地區很早自由民主法治的一個城市，可是越來越背離了這個道路，我也為香港人民感到痛心，一個城市如果沒有從自由民主法治、尊重人權的角度來發展的時候，經濟是沒有辦法進步的，在沒有很好的民主自由的情況下，大概大部分國家的經濟自由都沒有很好。"],["賴委員瑞隆：所以你從臺灣跟香港的股市來看，兩個是交錯而過的。"],["陳院長建仁：確實是這樣。"],["賴委員瑞隆：外資是不斷地在撤離香港，香港從過去的東方明珠這樣一個自由經濟的體制，然後現在開始往下在走，我覺得這個都值得全世界、所有的臺灣人高度關注，也應該給予他們更多的支持。"],["陳院長建仁：對。"],["賴委員瑞隆：這次的修正裡面其實有很多的包括它對於煽動的意圖、包括對於危害國安，甚至於境外的干預，這個都是很抽象的一些概念，過去我們看過中國一個專制的體制……"],["陳院長建仁：很容易觸法、很容易被罰。"],["賴委員瑞隆：對，就是說如果這是在一個民主國家，當然這些可能大家比較明確一點，因為這都要很明確的，但是在香港現在是一國兩制下的時候，中國這樣的處理方式，過去我們看到，不管是從李明哲或者是富察等等案件，以黨來決定的時候，甚至司法都是由黨來決定的時候，其實你怎麼犯了它的罪？怎麼去定他的罪？你恐怕都很難有太多從司法找回正義的一個機會，所以香港這樣的狀況其實會讓大家非常擔憂。院長，如果在這樣的狀況下，現在很多的訴求，所謂的一個中國、所謂一國兩制，所謂九二共識的部分，這個還值得臺灣人民相信嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：我希望臺灣人民一定要提高警覺，而且要以香港為戒，我們知道如果臺灣沒有自由民主法治，臺灣的經濟發展也一定會像香港一樣的衰弱，所以我希望我們全民，特別是2,300萬人民都能夠珍惜我們的自由民主，大家團結一致來抵抗任何威權、獨裁這樣的一個制度進入這個地區，我們當然更希望威權、獨裁的國家也能夠學習臺灣，未來變成一個自由民主法治，而且尊重人權的國家，這樣這個區域才會越來越穩定、越和平、越繁榮。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我們期盼的不只是香港，我們期待中國大陸其實也應該往自由民主這樣的路線來前進。"],["陳院長建仁：是。"],["賴委員瑞隆：這個對於整個人權、對於整個長遠的發展、對人民的福祉都是一個穩定的結構，我認為其實應該都要朝這個方向，但是我認為內部也更應該團結一致對外。"],["陳院長建仁：沒有錯。"],["賴委員瑞隆：對於威權專制這樣的一個體制，其實它有很多一些意圖的時候，內部應該更團結，朝野應該更團結來一致對外，我認為才會讓世界各國看到，讓中共看到臺灣在這一塊的覺醒。"],["陳院長建仁：確實。"],["賴委員瑞隆：另外，我想請教一下，其實臺灣每年還是有相當多人去香港，我今天早上也聽到，包括交通部長也有在提醒去香港必須要很謹慎小心。"],["陳院長建仁：要小心。"],["賴委員瑞隆：院長有沒有什麼樣的呼籲？對於香港基本法23條從明天開始實施，臺灣人民未來如果要到香港去的話，有沒有什麼要特別要注意的？"],["陳院長建仁：我想因為臺灣人民也滿多人要到香港，香港基本法23條明天要實施，所以我在這裡呼籲臺灣人民要去香港的時候，務必要特別注意自己的安全，一定要確認了以後才去香港，我想這件事情大家一定要特別小心。"],["賴委員瑞隆：要非常謹慎小心，你在臺灣可以講的言論、各方面的作為可能到香港不見得可以，以前的香港可能還可以，但是當中共已經用一國兩制去治理它的時候，當通過這些相關的國安法，基本法又這樣修了之後，它已經產生很多不確定性。"],["陳院長建仁：對。"],["賴委員瑞隆：所以國人到香港去務必要很謹慎小心，萬一有發生狀況，我還是希望政府要密切地注意，應該要全力來做協助。"],["陳院長建仁：對，當然。"],["賴委員瑞隆：好，再回到今天交通這個主題。高雄在10年前有邀請小鴨來展出，其實香港10年前也有，都很成功。"],["陳院長建仁：對，高雄越來越好。"],["賴委員瑞隆：10年後香港也展出了2隻，高雄也再展出了2隻，都是一個很成功的展出，對於高雄來說，這10年來，其實也不只10年，透過很長遠地努力，其實創造很多的效益，當然10年前我在擔任新聞局長的時候就在推這件事情，其實有很大的效益。10年後高雄市政府、其邁市長更大力地推動，效益持續擴大，這個也是中央、地方大家共同合作的結果。我想講的是，希望未來包括院長跟部長都能夠繼續支持高雄這些產業的發展，當大家同心來推動的時候，其實對於高雄的這個產業、高雄的這個結構就會有很大的改變，它不再只是個工業城市，人口不再是只能夠往北部來移動，而是在高雄會有很多好的機會發生，這個是不是也請院長簡單地說明一下？"],["陳院長建仁：好，我想在陳其邁市長還有多位委員的促成之下，高雄的觀光確實做得很棒，而且現在好多人……"],["賴委員瑞隆：院長有去看過小鴨的展出嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：我沒有去看過小鴨，不過我很多的朋友還有年輕朋友都會到高雄去看音樂會等等，高雄確實是已經不一樣了，脫胎換骨，跟我小時候的高雄完全不一樣，所以我現在是以高雄為榮！"],["賴委員瑞隆：因為院長是高雄人，然後部長也長期在高雄服務，都共同為高雄人付出很多，我想高雄的努力需要大家共同支持。接下來我想講的是高雄機場的部分，其實去年在這個場地上面，半年前也跟院長、部長談過了，就是高雄國際機場的航班、航點恢復得太慢。半年前的時候有跟院長、部長請求能夠在年底前達到八成的目標，當時部長是跟我說這個會努力來做，但是到了今年的上半年，到目前為止，都還只有73%左右而已。事實上，相較於桃園的部分，我們看一下桃園的航點已經恢復了71%，航班恢復了90%；而高雄是68%跟72%。我想要請院長跟部長能不能大力支持，在今年上半年把航班、航點全數恢復好嗎？"],["王部長國材：目前新加坡跟沖繩已經恢復了，接下來我們就是日本的札幌跟熊本，尤其熊本是高雄市政府……"],["賴委員瑞隆：部長，上半年能不能全數恢復？"],["王部長國材：我們努力，看起來會有一點問題，但是儘量，比如說朝九成來……"],["賴委員瑞隆：我希望院長、部長全力來支持，這個對於南部的發展很重要，不要讓很多南部的鄉親還要到桃園去才能夠做很多的……交通的便利其實對一個區域的發展非常重要，不管是商務或觀光客都非常重要，我希望這塊能夠……","原先高雄就已經比桃園相對辛苦一些了，如果在恢復速度又比桃園來得更慢的時候就會更辛苦，這個需要政府更大的魄力跟決心去協助，好不好？院長，可不可以全力來支持好嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：我們一起來努力，我想繼續發展高雄的好的觀光……"],["賴委員瑞隆：對，讓南部的鄉親有更便利的商務和觀光等等，好不好？這對南部的發展很重要，對南北的平衡也很重要。","再來，把握時間。也謝謝院長大力支持前鎮漁港這個80億，歷任院長的大力支持，我們看到日本的豐洲市場其實有軌道建設，不管從原先的築地到豐洲，坐捷運就可以到達這些重要的漁市場；同樣的前鎮漁港在歷任院長的支持之下，也花了80億來做全面的一些整治啦！它其中還有另外一個重要因素是交通上必須要更加的便利，現在捷運的黃線已經開始在進行，也謝謝整個行政院的大力支持，到了前鎮高中站這邊，其實再接兩站就可以進到了前鎮漁港，可行性評估期中報告去年已經出來了，那可行性評估在今年上半年應該會出來，也希望院長和部長繼續來支持前鎮漁港、支持捷運黃線延伸到前鎮漁港，比照日本的豐洲築地有很便利的交通發展，讓整個漁港的建設更加速來發展。"],["陳院長建仁：好，我們希望高雄市政府趕快提出可行性的評估報告。"],["賴委員瑞隆：出來之後的話，院長跟部長……"],["陳院長建仁：我們會加速審查。"],["賴委員瑞隆：全力支持啦！"],["陳院長建仁：好。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我覺得從很多的重大建設都是百年建設來看，其實現在如果做了一些決定就會可惜，就像當年高鐵如果有從左營到高雄車站的話，那相信對南高雄的發展更便利，臺北就可以有三站了，高雄當年如果更有遠見去做決策，當然那是前朝的時代做的，我們就不便……但是我是說國家重大建設要更有前瞻性，不要未來30年、50年後來發現說當年這個決策如果做的話，恐怕會有完全的不一樣的發展，我們希望國家重大建設是要中央大力來推動，我們也希望更有遠見、更有格局的來思考，好不好？請院長、部長再大力支持。"],["陳院長建仁：好。"],["王部長國材：是，它6月會提出來。"],["賴委員瑞隆：出來之後我們也希望這個地下黃線延伸前鎮漁港，請部長、院長大力來支持。"],["陳院長建仁：好。"],["賴委員瑞隆：好，謝謝。","再來，另外一個也是重要的建設，旗津其實非常多外國人，包括國人也都很喜歡去旅遊，過去它其實是半島，不是離島，但是因為開高雄港的關係，把它截斷之後，它變成是一個離島了，現在我們是靠第一條的過港隧道在延伸，那個年限已經接近了，我們有做了一些延壽的工程。但是第二條過港隧道也應該要儘速來做啟動，因為第一條年限已經快到，我們延壽了，那第二條可行性也是已經規劃出來，我也希望這一條未來第二過港隧道能夠規劃，讓旗津……","常常很多人講說它像新加坡的聖淘沙一樣，但是聖淘沙也是有很便利的軌道運輸，那如果我們更有格局跟遠見協助，不只是第二過港隧道過去，同時間規劃未來比如說輕軌等等能夠進去的話，它對當地的綠碳、當地的觀光發展都有相當大的幫助。它是一個非常有潛力的地方，它是高雄最早發展的地方，有最早的媽祖廟、有古老的宗教、砲臺等等，所以它其實是非常具有潛力的地方，我也希望院長、部長能夠大力支持，可行性評估過了之後，也能夠來支持這樣的第二過港隧道建設，院長，可以嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：可以，我想就把這個可行性研究趕快完成，很重要。"],["賴委員瑞隆：因為它現在出來大概是兩個路廊，一個是從擴建路，一個是從漁港路經過，也希望到時候如果出來，院長能夠大力來支持好嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：好。"],["賴委員瑞隆：謝謝。"],["王部長國材：它延壽到138年，就是現在舊的要用到138年，所以它動工我們初步評估是10年到15年前開始動工，往前推……"],["賴委員瑞隆：對，我知道，就是說它其實第一條是有經過延壽，延長壽命一段時間了……"],["王部長國材：對，138。"],["賴委員瑞隆：但是延長了之後它就靠這一條而已……"],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00:03:29,564\n這一個區域才會越來越穩定、越和平、越繁榮。我們期盼的是不只香港,我們現在中國大陸其實都應該走向自由民主這樣的路線來前進。這個對於整個人權、對於整個長遠的發展、對人民的福祉都是一個穩定的結構。那我認為其實應該都要\n\n9\n00:03:30,985 --> 00:03:31,765\n昨天早上也聽到\n\n10\n00:03:58,035 --> 00:04:12,904\n包括這個江部長也有在提醒去香港必須要很謹慎小心。院長有沒有怎樣的呼籲,如果對台灣人民從明天開始實施,未來如果到香港去的話有沒有什麼要特別要注意?我想因為台灣的人民也蠻多要到香港,\n\n11\n00:04:13,704 --> 00:04:31,774\n香港基本法23條明天要實施所以我在這裏呼籲臺灣人民要去香港的時候務必要特別注意到自己的安全那一定要確認以後才去香港我想這件事情一定要大家特別小心\n\n12\n00:04:31,834 --> 00:04:31,854\n當然\n\n13\n00:04:58,922 --> 00:05:16,373\n再回到今天交通的主題,其實高雄在10年前有邀請小鴨來展出,其實香港10年前也有,高雄10年前有兩隻都很成功,10年後香港也展出了兩隻,高雄也再展出了兩隻,但是\n\n14\n00:05:16,823 --> 00:05:42,111\n就是都是一個很成功的一個展出那對於高雄來說這10年來其實也不只10年啦很長遠努力其實創造很多的效益10年的時候那時候當然我在擔任新聞局長的時候就在推這件事情其實有很大的效益10年後呃高雄市政府期盼市長更大力的推動其實效益持續擴大那這個也是中央地方大家共同合作的結果那我想講的是也希望未來然後包括院長跟部長能夠繼續支持高雄的這些產業的發展當然\n\n15\n00:05:43,411 --> 00:05:43,651\n院長有去看過小鴨的那個嗎?\n\n16\n00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:37,089\n我沒有去高雄想像不過我很多的朋友還有年輕朋友都會到高雄去看音樂會阿等等高雄確實是已經不一樣了脫胎放骨跟我小時候的高雄完全不一樣所以我是以高雄為榮了現在院長是高雄部長也長期在高雄服務我想都共同為高雄會付出很多那我想高雄的努力需要大家共同支持那接下來我想講的是高雄機場的部分其實去年在這個場地上面半年前阿也跟\n\n17\n00:06:37,969 --> 00:06:37,989\n﹚議員﹚部長﹚\n\n18\n00:07:05,656 --> 00:07:16,045\n這個航點已經恢復了71,航班恢復了90,而高雄68跟72。我想要請院長跟部長能不能大力支持,在今年上半年把航班航點全數恢復好嗎?\n\n19\n00:07:18,086 --> 00:07:44,703\n目前那個新加坡跟沖繩已經恢復了接下來我們就是日本的那個雜黃跟熊本這是尤其熊本是剛剛施政委員長部長上半年能不能全數恢復我們努力看起來會有點問題但是盡量比如說朝九成我希望院長部長全力來支持這個對於南部的發展很重要不要讓很多南部的鄉親還要到桃園去才能夠做很多的不管是甚至很多\n\n20\n00:07:45,802 --> 00:07:46,823\n我們一起來努力那我想\n\n21\n00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:35,552\n繼續發展高雄的好的觀光產業讓南部的鄉親有更便利的商務觀光的這些的一些好不好這對南部的發展很重要對南北的平衡也很重要再一個把握時間也謝謝院長大力支持前鎮漁港這個八十億歷任的院長的大力支持我們看到日本的豐洲市場其實有軌道建設不管從原先的竹地到豐洲你到了做捷運就可以到達這些重要的一個漁市場\n\n22\n00:08:36,132 --> 00:08:42,703\n那同樣的前陣漁港在整個立任院長的支持之下的時候也花了80億來做整個全面的一些整\n\n23\n00:08:43,925 --> 00:09:12,535\n整治啦齁那他其中還有另外一個重要因素是交通上必須要更加的便利那現在捷運的黃線已經開始在進行也謝謝整個行政院的大力支持那到了前鎮高中站這邊那其實再接兩站就可以進到了前鎮漁港那也希望院長跟部長可行性評估已經其中報告出來去年出來了那可行性評估在今年上半年應該會出來也希望院長跟部長繼續來支持前鎮漁港支持捷運黃線延伸到前鎮漁港\n\n24\n00:09:12,915 --> 00:09:38,792\n比照日本的豐洲族立項有一個很便利的一個交通發展讓整個漁港的建設更加速來發展。我們希望高雄市政府趕快提出那個可行性的評估報告。那出來之後的話院長跟部長會全力支持。我覺得很多的重大建設都是百年建設來看其實現在如果做了一些決定就會可惜就像當年高鐵如果有從左營到\n\n25\n00:09:39,758 --> 00:09:39,938\n賴瑞隆\n\n26\n00:10:01,834 --> 00:10:03,735\n此經其實非常多外國人包括國人都很喜歡去旅遊那他其實\n\n27\n00:10:30,763 --> 00:10:53,538\n過去它其實是半島它不是離島但是因為開高雄港的關係把它截斷之後它變成是一個離島了那現在我們是靠第一條的過港隧道在延伸那那個年限已經接近了那我們有做了一些延壽的工程那但是第二條過港隧道也應該要儘速來做啟動因為第一條年限已經快到那我們延壽了那第二條可行性也是已經規劃出來\n\n28\n00:10:54,679 --> 00:11:14,436\n那我也希望這一條未來的這個第二過港隧道能夠規劃讓其經常有說講到很多人講說他像新加坡的聖桃沙一樣但是如果聖桃沙也是有很便利的軌道運出去那如果我們更有格局跟遠近協助不只是第二過港隧道過去\n\n29\n00:11:14,736 --> 00:11:14,876\n賴瑞隆\n\n30\n00:11:37,649 --> 00:11:53,036\n我也希望院長、部長能夠大力支持可行性評估過了之後也能夠來支持這樣的第二過往隧道建設。院長可以嗎?可以,我想就把這個可行性研究趕快完成,很重要。\n\n31\n00:11:54,366 --> 00:12:21,951\n如果來了,因為他現在出來大概是兩個路廊,一個是重擴建路,一個是漁港路經過。那也希望院長到處所出來的時候,院長能夠大力來支持,好嗎?好。他延壽到138年,就是現在舊的要用到138年。所以他動工我們出屋平庫是10年到15年前開始動工。對我知道,就是說他其實第一條是有經過延壽啦,延長壽命一段時間。但是延長了之後他就靠這一條而已。\n\n32\n00:12:22,771 --> 00:12:22,791\n拜訪議員\n\n33\n00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,822\n這個對於高雄未來的持續的把人才留在高雄也是一個重要的一個過程。\n\n34\n00:13:05,421 --> 00:13:25,455\n就是他大概138年前10年跟15年就要開始興建了,這個時間要抓準抓準這個時間。我知道,不過都是要希望能夠提早好不好。現在的程序就要開始走。我希望都能夠提早啦,很多事情都是要提早,我還是要講第一過港隧道的年限其實已經快要到,是我們延壽他的延長了,但是我講的是\n\n35\n00:13:26,776 --> 00:13:47,987\n當地的大家都還是會擔憂,另一方面我也希望大眾運輸的思考能夠盡快的進去,好不好?這對於旗津的發展,你可以想像嗎?幾乎萬一有任何一些狀況的時候,旗津就形成是一個孤島,沒辦法出來。它要出來還要靠著做這個渡輪才要出來的。所以我意思說,當時是開高雄港才形成這樣的一個狀況嘛,我希望政府能夠更給予支持。\n\n36\n00:13:49,138 --> 00:13:51,919\n我希望能夠思考迄今國家風景這樣的概念\n\n37\n00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:35,205\n但是用腳走路啦,當那麼多外國人、當那麼多觀光客都會喜歡到奇晶的時候而我們國家的力道跟資源有沒有進去,我希望思考就算你不能夠成立的話也可以把周邊的納進來,讓更多政府中央的能量、行銷的能量、推動能量能夠進來,讓奇晶整個發展速度能夠更快一點,這個院長跟部長能夠支持嗎?\n\n38\n00:14:36,585 --> 00:15:04,534\n我想這一個部分我們還是就像剛才的一樣看高雄市政府來評估看看他的情況因為有...院長現在是高雄市政府負責我只希望交通部公安局主的力道能夠進來來協助對,如果需要交通局這邊來協助幫忙的地方我希望這個...那最後一個還剩下一點點時間的時候高雄的新航廈機場的新航廈第一期大概到這個原先規劃到\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n13229\t31093\t其實明天也是香港重要的一天就是說香港離台灣很近但是香港的整個這一段時間以來的變化其實台灣高度關注那最近看到這個香港基本法23條部分的快速的去修訂那明天來實施了\n31857\t52019\t我個人其實認為這對香港來說是自由人權上面很沉重的一天。那院長怎麼看待?我其實對香港一直寄予厚望,因為香港算是在亞洲地區很早的一個自由民主法治的一個城市,可是越來越背離了這個道路。\n52620\t52820\t賴瑞隆\n68391\t84685\t所以你看台灣跟香港的從股市來看兩個是交錯而過的那外資的撤是不斷的在撤離香港的所以香港過去的東方明珠這樣的一個叫自由經濟的一個體制\n85834\t86054\t賴瑞隆\n101544\t125708\t⋯⋯⋯⋯\n126237\t146834\t﹚議員﹚\n147425\t164123\t現在很多的訴求所謂的一個中國所謂一國兩制所謂這個九二共識的部分這個臺灣人民還值得相信嗎?像臺灣人民一定要提高警覺而且要以香港為界我們知道如果臺灣沒有自由民主\n164623\t164843\t賴瑞隆\n193992\t209564\t這一個區域才會越來越穩定、越和平、越繁榮。我們期盼的是不只香港,我們現在中國大陸其實都應該走向自由民主這樣的路線來前進。這個對於整個人權、對於整個長遠的發展、對人民的福祉都是一個穩定的結構。那我認為其實應該都要\n210985\t211765\t昨天早上也聽到\n238035\t252904\t包括這個江部長也有在提醒去香港必須要很謹慎小心。院長有沒有怎樣的呼籲,如果對台灣人民從明天開始實施,未來如果到香港去的話有沒有什麼要特別要注意?我想因為台灣的人民也蠻多要到香港,\n253704\t271774\t香港基本法23條明天要實施所以我在這裏呼籲臺灣人民要去香港的時候務必要特別注意到自己的安全那一定要確認以後才去香港我想這件事情一定要大家特別小心\n271834\t271854\t當然\n298922\t316373\t再回到今天交通的主題,其實高雄在10年前有邀請小鴨來展出,其實香港10年前也有,高雄10年前有兩隻都很成功,10年後香港也展出了兩隻,高雄也再展出了兩隻,但是\n316823\t342111\t就是都是一個很成功的一個展出那對於高雄來說這10年來其實也不只10年啦很長遠努力其實創造很多的效益10年的時候那時候當然我在擔任新聞局長的時候就在推這件事情其實有很大的效益10年後呃高雄市政府期盼市長更大力的推動其實效益持續擴大那這個也是中央地方大家共同合作的結果那我想講的是也希望未來然後包括院長跟部長能夠繼續支持高雄的這些產業的發展當然\n343411\t343651\t院長有去看過小鴨的那個嗎?\n371270\t397089\t我沒有去高雄想像不過我很多的朋友還有年輕朋友都會到高雄去看音樂會阿等等高雄確實是已經不一樣了脫胎放骨跟我小時候的高雄完全不一樣所以我是以高雄為榮了現在院長是高雄部長也長期在高雄服務我想都共同為高雄會付出很多那我想高雄的努力需要大家共同支持那接下來我想講的是高雄機場的部分其實去年在這個場地上面半年前阿也跟\n397969\t397989\t﹚議員﹚部長﹚\n425656\t436045\t這個航點已經恢復了71,航班恢復了90,而高雄68跟72。我想要請院長跟部長能不能大力支持,在今年上半年把航班航點全數恢復好嗎?\n438086\t464703\t目前那個新加坡跟沖繩已經恢復了接下來我們就是日本的那個雜黃跟熊本這是尤其熊本是剛剛施政委員長部長上半年能不能全數恢復我們努力看起來會有點問題但是盡量比如說朝九成我希望院長部長全力來支持這個對於南部的發展很重要不要讓很多南部的鄉親還要到桃園去才能夠做很多的不管是甚至很多\n465802\t466823\t我們一起來努力那我想\n489600\t515552\t繼續發展高雄的好的觀光產業讓南部的鄉親有更便利的商務觀光的這些的一些好不好這對南部的發展很重要對南北的平衡也很重要再一個把握時間也謝謝院長大力支持前鎮漁港這個八十億歷任的院長的大力支持我們看到日本的豐洲市場其實有軌道建設不管從原先的竹地到豐洲你到了做捷運就可以到達這些重要的一個漁市場\n516132\t522703\t那同樣的前陣漁港在整個立任院長的支持之下的時候也花了80億來做整個全面的一些整\n523925\t552535\t整治啦齁那他其中還有另外一個重要因素是交通上必須要更加的便利那現在捷運的黃線已經開始在進行也謝謝整個行政院的大力支持那到了前鎮高中站這邊那其實再接兩站就可以進到了前鎮漁港那也希望院長跟部長可行性評估已經其中報告出來去年出來了那可行性評估在今年上半年應該會出來也希望院長跟部長繼續來支持前鎮漁港支持捷運黃線延伸到前鎮漁港\n552915\t578792\t比照日本的豐洲族立項有一個很便利的一個交通發展讓整個漁港的建設更加速來發展。我們希望高雄市政府趕快提出那個可行性的評估報告。那出來之後的話院長跟部長會全力支持。我覺得很多的重大建設都是百年建設來看其實現在如果做了一些決定就會可惜就像當年高鐵如果有從左營到\n579758\t579938\t賴瑞隆\n601834\t603735\t此經其實非常多外國人包括國人都很喜歡去旅遊那他其實\n630763\t653538\t過去它其實是半島它不是離島但是因為開高雄港的關係把它截斷之後它變成是一個離島了那現在我們是靠第一條的過港隧道在延伸那那個年限已經接近了那我們有做了一些延壽的工程那但是第二條過港隧道也應該要儘速來做啟動因為第一條年限已經快到那我們延壽了那第二條可行性也是已經規劃出來\n654679\t674436\t那我也希望這一條未來的這個第二過港隧道能夠規劃讓其經常有說講到很多人講說他像新加坡的聖桃沙一樣但是如果聖桃沙也是有很便利的軌道運出去那如果我們更有格局跟遠近協助不只是第二過港隧道過去\n674736\t674876\t賴瑞隆\n697649\t713036\t我也希望院長、部長能夠大力支持可行性評估過了之後也能夠來支持這樣的第二過往隧道建設。院長可以嗎?可以,我想就把這個可行性研究趕快完成,很重要。\n714366\t741951\t如果來了,因為他現在出來大概是兩個路廊,一個是重擴建路,一個是漁港路經過。那也希望院長到處所出來的時候,院長能夠大力來支持,好嗎?好。他延壽到138年,就是現在舊的要用到138年。所以他動工我們出屋平庫是10年到15年前開始動工。對我知道,就是說他其實第一條是有經過延壽啦,延長壽命一段時間。但是延長了之後他就靠這一條而已。\n742771\t742791\t拜訪議員\n767040\t768822\t這個對於高雄未來的持續的把人才留在高雄也是一個重要的一個過程。\n785421\t805455\t就是他大概138年前10年跟15年就要開始興建了,這個時間要抓準抓準這個時間。我知道,不過都是要希望能夠提早好不好。現在的程序就要開始走。我希望都能夠提早啦,很多事情都是要提早,我還是要講第一過港隧道的年限其實已經快要到,是我們延壽他的延長了,但是我講的是\n806776\t827987\t當地的大家都還是會擔憂,另一方面我也希望大眾運輸的思考能夠盡快的進去,好不好?這對於旗津的發展,你可以想像嗎?幾乎萬一有任何一些狀況的時候,旗津就形成是一個孤島,沒辦法出來。它要出來還要靠著做這個渡輪才要出來的。所以我意思說,當時是開高雄港才形成這樣的一個狀況嘛,我希望政府能夠更給予支持。\n829138\t831919\t我希望能夠思考迄今國家風景這樣的概念\n855560\t875205\t但是用腳走路啦,當那麼多外國人、當那麼多觀光客都會喜歡到奇晶的時候而我們國家的力道跟資源有沒有進去,我希望思考就算你不能夠成立的話也可以把周邊的納進來,讓更多政府中央的能量、行銷的能量、推動能量能夠進來,讓奇晶整個發展速度能夠更快一點,這個院長跟部長能夠支持嗎?\n876585\t904534\t我想這一個部分我們還是就像剛才的一樣看高雄市政府來評估看看他的情況因為有...院長現在是高雄市政府負責我只希望交通部公安局主的力道能夠進來來協助對,如果需要交通局這邊來協助幫忙的地方我希望這個...那最後一個還剩下一點點時間的時候高雄的新航廈機場的新航廈第一期大概到這個原先規劃到\n905674\t921937\t﹗\n","txt":"其實明天也是香港重要的一天就是說香港離台灣很近但是香港的整個這一段時間以來的變化其實台灣高度關注那最近看到這個香港基本法23條部分的快速的去修訂那明天來實施了\n我個人其實認為這對香港來說是自由人權上面很沉重的一天。那院長怎麼看待?我其實對香港一直寄予厚望,因為香港算是在亞洲地區很早的一個自由民主法治的一個城市,可是越來越背離了這個道路。\n賴瑞隆\n所以你看台灣跟香港的從股市來看兩個是交錯而過的那外資的撤是不斷的在撤離香港的所以香港過去的東方明珠這樣的一個叫自由經濟的一個體制\n賴瑞隆\n⋯⋯⋯⋯\n﹚議員﹚\n現在很多的訴求所謂的一個中國所謂一國兩制所謂這個九二共識的部分這個臺灣人民還值得相信嗎?像臺灣人民一定要提高警覺而且要以香港為界我們知道如果臺灣沒有自由民主\n賴瑞隆\n這一個區域才會越來越穩定、越和平、越繁榮。我們期盼的是不只香港,我們現在中國大陸其實都應該走向自由民主這樣的路線來前進。這個對於整個人權、對於整個長遠的發展、對人民的福祉都是一個穩定的結構。那我認為其實應該都要\n昨天早上也聽到\n包括這個江部長也有在提醒去香港必須要很謹慎小心。院長有沒有怎樣的呼籲,如果對台灣人民從明天開始實施,未來如果到香港去的話有沒有什麼要特別要注意?我想因為台灣的人民也蠻多要到香港,\n香港基本法23條明天要實施所以我在這裏呼籲臺灣人民要去香港的時候務必要特別注意到自己的安全那一定要確認以後才去香港我想這件事情一定要大家特別小心\n當然\n再回到今天交通的主題,其實高雄在10年前有邀請小鴨來展出,其實香港10年前也有,高雄10年前有兩隻都很成功,10年後香港也展出了兩隻,高雄也再展出了兩隻,但是\n就是都是一個很成功的一個展出那對於高雄來說這10年來其實也不只10年啦很長遠努力其實創造很多的效益10年的時候那時候當然我在擔任新聞局長的時候就在推這件事情其實有很大的效益10年後呃高雄市政府期盼市長更大力的推動其實效益持續擴大那這個也是中央地方大家共同合作的結果那我想講的是也希望未來然後包括院長跟部長能夠繼續支持高雄的這些產業的發展當然\n院長有去看過小鴨的那個嗎?\n我沒有去高雄想像不過我很多的朋友還有年輕朋友都會到高雄去看音樂會阿等等高雄確實是已經不一樣了脫胎放骨跟我小時候的高雄完全不一樣所以我是以高雄為榮了現在院長是高雄部長也長期在高雄服務我想都共同為高雄會付出很多那我想高雄的努力需要大家共同支持那接下來我想講的是高雄機場的部分其實去年在這個場地上面半年前阿也跟\n﹚議員﹚部長﹚\n這個航點已經恢復了71,航班恢復了90,而高雄68跟72。我想要請院長跟部長能不能大力支持,在今年上半年把航班航點全數恢復好嗎?\n目前那個新加坡跟沖繩已經恢復了接下來我們就是日本的那個雜黃跟熊本這是尤其熊本是剛剛施政委員長部長上半年能不能全數恢復我們努力看起來會有點問題但是盡量比如說朝九成我希望院長部長全力來支持這個對於南部的發展很重要不要讓很多南部的鄉親還要到桃園去才能夠做很多的不管是甚至很多\n我們一起來努力那我想\n繼續發展高雄的好的觀光產業讓南部的鄉親有更便利的商務觀光的這些的一些好不好這對南部的發展很重要對南北的平衡也很重要再一個把握時間也謝謝院長大力支持前鎮漁港這個八十億歷任的院長的大力支持我們看到日本的豐洲市場其實有軌道建設不管從原先的竹地到豐洲你到了做捷運就可以到達這些重要的一個漁市場\n那同樣的前陣漁港在整個立任院長的支持之下的時候也花了80億來做整個全面的一些整\n整治啦齁那他其中還有另外一個重要因素是交通上必須要更加的便利那現在捷運的黃線已經開始在進行也謝謝整個行政院的大力支持那到了前鎮高中站這邊那其實再接兩站就可以進到了前鎮漁港那也希望院長跟部長可行性評估已經其中報告出來去年出來了那可行性評估在今年上半年應該會出來也希望院長跟部長繼續來支持前鎮漁港支持捷運黃線延伸到前鎮漁港\n比照日本的豐洲族立項有一個很便利的一個交通發展讓整個漁港的建設更加速來發展。我們希望高雄市政府趕快提出那個可行性的評估報告。那出來之後的話院長跟部長會全力支持。我覺得很多的重大建設都是百年建設來看其實現在如果做了一些決定就會可惜就像當年高鐵如果有從左營到\n賴瑞隆\n此經其實非常多外國人包括國人都很喜歡去旅遊那他其實\n過去它其實是半島它不是離島但是因為開高雄港的關係把它截斷之後它變成是一個離島了那現在我們是靠第一條的過港隧道在延伸那那個年限已經接近了那我們有做了一些延壽的工程那但是第二條過港隧道也應該要儘速來做啟動因為第一條年限已經快到那我們延壽了那第二條可行性也是已經規劃出來\n那我也希望這一條未來的這個第二過港隧道能夠規劃讓其經常有說講到很多人講說他像新加坡的聖桃沙一樣但是如果聖桃沙也是有很便利的軌道運出去那如果我們更有格局跟遠近協助不只是第二過港隧道過去\n賴瑞隆\n我也希望院長、部長能夠大力支持可行性評估過了之後也能夠來支持這樣的第二過往隧道建設。院長可以嗎?可以,我想就把這個可行性研究趕快完成,很重要。\n如果來了,因為他現在出來大概是兩個路廊,一個是重擴建路,一個是漁港路經過。那也希望院長到處所出來的時候,院長能夠大力來支持,好嗎?好。他延壽到138年,就是現在舊的要用到138年。所以他動工我們出屋平庫是10年到15年前開始動工。對我知道,就是說他其實第一條是有經過延壽啦,延長壽命一段時間。但是延長了之後他就靠這一條而已。\n拜訪議員\n這個對於高雄未來的持續的把人才留在高雄也是一個重要的一個過程。\n就是他大概138年前10年跟15年就要開始興建了,這個時間要抓準抓準這個時間。我知道,不過都是要希望能夠提早好不好。現在的程序就要開始走。我希望都能夠提早啦,很多事情都是要提早,我還是要講第一過港隧道的年限其實已經快要到,是我們延壽他的延長了,但是我講的是\n當地的大家都還是會擔憂,另一方面我也希望大眾運輸的思考能夠盡快的進去,好不好?這對於旗津的發展,你可以想像嗎?幾乎萬一有任何一些狀況的時候,旗津就形成是一個孤島,沒辦法出來。它要出來還要靠著做這個渡輪才要出來的。所以我意思說,當時是開高雄港才形成這樣的一個狀況嘛,我希望政府能夠更給予支持。\n我希望能夠思考迄今國家風景這樣的概念\n但是用腳走路啦,當那麼多外國人、當那麼多觀光客都會喜歡到奇晶的時候而我們國家的力道跟資源有沒有進去,我希望思考就算你不能夠成立的話也可以把周邊的納進來,讓更多政府中央的能量、行銷的能量、推動能量能夠進來,讓奇晶整個發展速度能夠更快一點,這個院長跟部長能夠支持嗎?\n我想這一個部分我們還是就像剛才的一樣看高雄市政府來評估看看他的情況因為有...院長現在是高雄市政府負責我只希望交通部公安局主的力道能夠進來來協助對,如果需要交通局這邊來協助幫忙的地方我希望這個...那最後一個還剩下一點點時間的時候高雄的新航廈機場的新航廈第一期大概到這個原先規劃到\n﹗\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:13.229 --> 00:31.093\n其實明天也是香港重要的一天就是說香港離台灣很近但是香港的整個這一段時間以來的變化其實台灣高度關注那最近看到這個香港基本法23條部分的快速的去修訂那明天來實施了\n\n00:31.857 --> 00:52.019\n我個人其實認為這對香港來說是自由人權上面很沉重的一天。那院長怎麼看待?我其實對香港一直寄予厚望,因為香港算是在亞洲地區很早的一個自由民主法治的一個城市,可是越來越背離了這個道路。\n\n00:52.620 --> 00:52.820\n賴瑞隆\n\n01:08.391 --> 01:24.685\n所以你看台灣跟香港的從股市來看兩個是交錯而過的那外資的撤是不斷的在撤離香港的所以香港過去的東方明珠這樣的一個叫自由經濟的一個體制\n\n01:25.834 --> 01:26.054\n賴瑞隆\n\n02:27.425 --> 02:44.123\n現在很多的訴求所謂的一個中國所謂一國兩制所謂這個九二共識的部分這個臺灣人民還值得相信嗎?像臺灣人民一定要提高警覺而且要以香港為界我們知道如果臺灣沒有自由民主\n\n02:44.623 --> 02:44.843\n賴瑞隆\n\n03:13.992 --> 03:29.564\n這一個區域才會越來越穩定、越和平、越繁榮。我們期盼的是不只香港,我們現在中國大陸其實都應該走向自由民主這樣的路線來前進。這個對於整個人權、對於整個長遠的發展、對人民的福祉都是一個穩定的結構。那我認為其實應該都要\n\n03:30.985 --> 03:31.765\n昨天早上也聽到\n\n03:58.035 --> 04:12.904\n包括這個江部長也有在提醒去香港必須要很謹慎小心。院長有沒有怎樣的呼籲,如果對台灣人民從明天開始實施,未來如果到香港去的話有沒有什麼要特別要注意?我想因為台灣的人民也蠻多要到香港,\n\n04:13.704 --> 04:31.774\n香港基本法23條明天要實施所以我在這裏呼籲臺灣人民要去香港的時候務必要特別注意到自己的安全那一定要確認以後才去香港我想這件事情一定要大家特別小心\n\n04:31.834 --> 04:31.854\n當然\n\n04:58.922 --> 05:16.373\n再回到今天交通的主題,其實高雄在10年前有邀請小鴨來展出,其實香港10年前也有,高雄10年前有兩隻都很成功,10年後香港也展出了兩隻,高雄也再展出了兩隻,但是\n\n05:16.823 --> 05:42.111\n就是都是一個很成功的一個展出那對於高雄來說這10年來其實也不只10年啦很長遠努力其實創造很多的效益10年的時候那時候當然我在擔任新聞局長的時候就在推這件事情其實有很大的效益10年後呃高雄市政府期盼市長更大力的推動其實效益持續擴大那這個也是中央地方大家共同合作的結果那我想講的是也希望未來然後包括院長跟部長能夠繼續支持高雄的這些產業的發展當然\n\n05:43.411 --> 05:43.651\n院長有去看過小鴨的那個嗎?\n\n06:11.270 --> 06:37.089\n我沒有去高雄想像不過我很多的朋友還有年輕朋友都會到高雄去看音樂會阿等等高雄確實是已經不一樣了脫胎放骨跟我小時候的高雄完全不一樣所以我是以高雄為榮了現在院長是高雄部長也長期在高雄服務我想都共同為高雄會付出很多那我想高雄的努力需要大家共同支持那接下來我想講的是高雄機場的部分其實去年在這個場地上面半年前阿也跟\n\n06:37.969 --> 06:37.989\n﹚議員﹚部長﹚\n\n07:05.656 --> 07:16.045\n這個航點已經恢復了71,航班恢復了90,而高雄68跟72。我想要請院長跟部長能不能大力支持,在今年上半年把航班航點全數恢復好嗎?\n\n07:18.086 --> 07:44.703\n目前那個新加坡跟沖繩已經恢復了接下來我們就是日本的那個雜黃跟熊本這是尤其熊本是剛剛施政委員長部長上半年能不能全數恢復我們努力看起來會有點問題但是盡量比如說朝九成我希望院長部長全力來支持這個對於南部的發展很重要不要讓很多南部的鄉親還要到桃園去才能夠做很多的不管是甚至很多\n\n07:45.802 --> 07:46.823\n我們一起來努力那我想\n\n08:09.600 --> 08:35.552\n繼續發展高雄的好的觀光產業讓南部的鄉親有更便利的商務觀光的這些的一些好不好這對南部的發展很重要對南北的平衡也很重要再一個把握時間也謝謝院長大力支持前鎮漁港這個八十億歷任的院長的大力支持我們看到日本的豐洲市場其實有軌道建設不管從原先的竹地到豐洲你到了做捷運就可以到達這些重要的一個漁市場\n\n08:36.132 --> 08:42.703\n那同樣的前陣漁港在整個立任院長的支持之下的時候也花了80億來做整個全面的一些整\n\n08:43.925 --> 09:12.535\n整治啦齁那他其中還有另外一個重要因素是交通上必須要更加的便利那現在捷運的黃線已經開始在進行也謝謝整個行政院的大力支持那到了前鎮高中站這邊那其實再接兩站就可以進到了前鎮漁港那也希望院長跟部長可行性評估已經其中報告出來去年出來了那可行性評估在今年上半年應該會出來也希望院長跟部長繼續來支持前鎮漁港支持捷運黃線延伸到前鎮漁港\n\n09:12.915 --> 09:38.792\n比照日本的豐洲族立項有一個很便利的一個交通發展讓整個漁港的建設更加速來發展。我們希望高雄市政府趕快提出那個可行性的評估報告。那出來之後的話院長跟部長會全力支持。我覺得很多的重大建設都是百年建設來看其實現在如果做了一些決定就會可惜就像當年高鐵如果有從左營到\n\n09:39.758 --> 09:39.938\n賴瑞隆\n\n10:01.834 --> 10:03.735\n此經其實非常多外國人包括國人都很喜歡去旅遊那他其實\n\n10:30.763 --> 10:53.538\n過去它其實是半島它不是離島但是因為開高雄港的關係把它截斷之後它變成是一個離島了那現在我們是靠第一條的過港隧道在延伸那那個年限已經接近了那我們有做了一些延壽的工程那但是第二條過港隧道也應該要儘速來做啟動因為第一條年限已經快到那我們延壽了那第二條可行性也是已經規劃出來\n\n10:54.679 --> 11:14.436\n那我也希望這一條未來的這個第二過港隧道能夠規劃讓其經常有說講到很多人講說他像新加坡的聖桃沙一樣但是如果聖桃沙也是有很便利的軌道運出去那如果我們更有格局跟遠近協助不只是第二過港隧道過去\n\n11:14.736 --> 11:14.876\n賴瑞隆\n\n11:37.649 --> 11:53.036\n我也希望院長、部長能夠大力支持可行性評估過了之後也能夠來支持這樣的第二過往隧道建設。院長可以嗎?可以,我想就把這個可行性研究趕快完成,很重要。\n\n11:54.366 --> 12:21.951\n如果來了,因為他現在出來大概是兩個路廊,一個是重擴建路,一個是漁港路經過。那也希望院長到處所出來的時候,院長能夠大力來支持,好嗎?好。他延壽到138年,就是現在舊的要用到138年。所以他動工我們出屋平庫是10年到15年前開始動工。對我知道,就是說他其實第一條是有經過延壽啦,延長壽命一段時間。但是延長了之後他就靠這一條而已。\n\n12:22.771 --> 12:22.791\n拜訪議員\n\n12:47.040 --> 12:48.822\n這個對於高雄未來的持續的把人才留在高雄也是一個重要的一個過程。\n\n13:05.421 --> 13:25.455\n就是他大概138年前10年跟15年就要開始興建了,這個時間要抓準抓準這個時間。我知道,不過都是要希望能夠提早好不好。現在的程序就要開始走。我希望都能夠提早啦,很多事情都是要提早,我還是要講第一過港隧道的年限其實已經快要到,是我們延壽他的延長了,但是我講的是\n\n13:26.776 --> 13:47.987\n當地的大家都還是會擔憂,另一方面我也希望大眾運輸的思考能夠盡快的進去,好不好?這對於旗津的發展,你可以想像嗎?幾乎萬一有任何一些狀況的時候,旗津就形成是一個孤島,沒辦法出來。它要出來還要靠著做這個渡輪才要出來的。所以我意思說,當時是開高雄港才形成這樣的一個狀況嘛,我希望政府能夠更給予支持。\n\n13:49.138 --> 13:51.919\n我希望能夠思考迄今國家風景這樣的概念\n\n14:15.560 --> 14:35.205\n但是用腳走路啦,當那麼多外國人、當那麼多觀光客都會喜歡到奇晶的時候而我們國家的力道跟資源有沒有進去,我希望思考就算你不能夠成立的話也可以把周邊的納進來,讓更多政府中央的能量、行銷的能量、推動能量能夠進來,讓奇晶整個發展速度能夠更快一點,這個院長跟部長能夠支持嗎?\n\n14:36.585 --> 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