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11:17:25","影片長度":"00:15:34","會議時間":"2024-03-22T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"第11屆第1會期第6次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。\n二、3月22日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。\n三、3月26日下午1時50分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。）","meet":{"tmpMeeting":null,"title":"立法院第11屆第1會期第6次會議","id":"院會-11-1-6","type":"院會","term":11,"sessionPeriod":1,"sessionTimes":6},"date":"2024-03-22","duration":934,"end_time":"2024-03-22T11:17:25+08:00","start_time":"2024-03-22T11:01:51+08:00","features":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"type":"Clip","gazette":{"lineno":1077,"blocks":[["涂委員權吉：（11時2分）好，謝謝主席，請陳建仁陳院長。"],["主席：再請陳院長備詢。"],["陳院長建仁：涂委員早安。"],["涂委員權吉：好，院長，請問一下，大園航空城的徵收案，院長應該知道吧？"],["陳院長建仁：我知道。"],["涂委員權吉：因為它是我們中華民國有史以來區段徵收最大的開發案，徵收面積突破到3,148公頃，當初針對這些搬遷市民的徵收有兩種補償方式，院長知道是哪兩種補償方式嗎？"],["陳院長建仁：我請部長說明。"],["涂委員權吉：好，沒關係，部長回答也可以。"],["王部長國材：安置住宅跟安置街廓。"],["涂委員權吉：主要是分兩種，一種是現金補償，還有一種是抵價地；一個是用錢、用現金，另外一個就是用現金等值的抵價地，兩種方式讓被徵收的民眾選擇。這些徵收戶都是配合國家重大建設跟政策，所以他們是不是都應該享有同樣的待遇？"],["陳院長建仁：對，應該，基本上。"],["涂委員權吉：現在他們面臨一個問題，就是這些徵收戶如果是選擇現金補償，在現金補償以後，他的老農津貼跟國民年金沒有被排富所影響。另外大概有百分之九十幾的被徵收戶，他們認為地被徵收掉，希望能同樣拿回土地，而政府也希望不用發出那麼多錢，所以用地去抵他們的地，但他們選擇抵價地，然後在收到權狀、收到安置街廓的權狀之後，房子都還沒蓋，收到權狀之後，就被排富條款排除在老農津貼跟國民年金之外，我覺得這部分應該享有同樣待遇，是不是院長這邊可以幫他們解決一下？"],["陳院長建仁：這件事情，行政院是由鄭副院長召集相關會議，針對這種看起來比較不一致的情況，會來做相關的討論，當然在老農津貼部分，還有國民年金的排富情形，是不是能夠再做進一步考慮，我想鄭副院長的會議當中一定會按照相關單位的建議來做。"],["涂委員權吉：我希望院長幫忙一下，因為那時候我們有提出，也希望鄭副院長在召開航空城專案會議的時候，像3月11日我們希望討論這部分，可是後來我們發現並沒有討論，所以希望院長能夠交辦一下，針對稅捐機關、農業部及衛福部的部分，希望跨部會來解決這個問題，因為當初民航局也有跟衛福部、農業部說這個抵價地應該也符合損害賠償性質，所得稅法規定他們拿現金是符合損害賠償性質，所以沒有在排富之內，可是不知道為什麼反而拿同等值的地居然被排除在外，所以民航局也認為拿這個抵價地應該也符合損害賠償性質，希望院長幫這些徵收戶爭取他們合法的權益，畢竟這些徵收戶都是配合國家重大政策，我們也不希望往後區段徵收有這些問題而影響到民眾對於徵收表達強烈的不滿，也怕他們抵制徵收。"],["陳院長建仁：好，這個部分我剛才已經說過，我會請鄭副院長召集相關的部會討論。"],["涂委員權吉：請院長多幫忙。"],["陳院長建仁：好。"],["涂委員權吉：接下來我們看一下道路改善的影片，我們先播放，請大家看一下。","（播放影片）"],["涂委員權吉：影片的播放有加快速度，這是前幾天我們針對這個路段拍攝的影片，在這段路上隨便走一段路，部長應該知道這段路是在哪裡吧？"],["王部長國材：知道。"],["涂委員權吉：那是在哪裡？"],["王部長國材：就是在觀音這一段。"],["涂委員權吉：對，部長對這也瞭解，我相信非常多的民眾陳情台61線桃園沿海從新屋到觀音這個路段坑坑洞洞，道路非常、非常地不平整，車子開過去以後，很多人都說避震器都會壞掉，而且這個問題也反映非常久，從小英總統上任，反映了8年，去年底鄭文燦副院長（之前也是我們的市長）也有承諾要去全面改善，不知道這部分的經費有編列嗎？何時可以幫我們全面重鋪？"],["陳院長建仁：這個部分請部長來回答。"],["王部長國材：跟委員報告，從111年開始修，今年有一筆經費4.5億，會澈底全面改善完畢。"],["涂委員權吉：什麼時候開始動工修？"],["王部長國材：從111年就開始修了。"],["涂委員權吉：可是路況還是很壞啊！"],["王部長國材：今年（113年）有4.5億會丟進去，總共77公里全部修完，今年……"],["涂委員權吉：預計什麼時候可以全面重鋪完成？"],["陳院長建仁：今年。"],["王部長國材：就是今年年底全部修完。"],["涂委員權吉：今年年底可以全部修復完成？"],["王部長國材：是。"],["涂委員權吉：所以現在已經陸續在修，今年年底我們就有一條完整的道路？"],["王部長國材：是，現在大概已經修了三十幾公里……"],["涂委員權吉：好，我順便向部長報告，台61是這個樣子，台66我相信你也接到很多反映，台61和台66是我們聯外非常重要的道路，這真的讓人家笑了很多年，希望交通部能夠雪恥，把這個道路全面重鋪完成。"],["王部長國材：好。"],["涂委員權吉：還有台66在觀音段現在還是平交路口，常常發生許多意外，而且造成很多交通的瓶頸，請問全面高架什麼時候可以啟動？"],["王部長國材：現在有一段在施工了，目前有五個平面路口，靠海在觀音這一部分現在在設計，4月會發包，另外再過來6K這一部分現在已經在施工中了，116年全部都會完成。"],["涂委員權吉：預計116年台66全面高架完成？"],["王部長國材：對，116年。"],["涂權吉委員：所以現在已經開始在施作，你說4月發包是嗎？"],["王部長國材：分兩標，有一標在施工，另外一標4月要發包。"],["涂權吉委員：所以預計116年全部可以高架完成？"],["王部長國材：對，都會完工。"],["涂權吉委員：好，這一部分還請部長多叮嚀。","另外，針對桃園市大園國2甲台15線延伸到台61線的興建工程，因為它現在也是我們航空城主要的聯外道路，不知道現在這個進度到哪裡？"],["王部長國材：我們第一階段就是到台15，現在要延到西濱，目前已經積極地進行中，我不確定時間，就是現在已經在進行。"],["涂委員權吉：好，部長，沒關係，我的重點在後面。因為國道2甲延伸到台61之後，最主要我們希望把下方的道路一併納入工程裡面，不要到時候二次施工，造成民眾二次傷害，而且到時候再施工，絕對會把工程期再延長。"],["陳院長建仁：這有需要跟地方政府討論一下，因為這跟地方政府有關係。"],["涂委員權吉：我有跟地方政府先溝通過，他們希望交通部納入，經費的部分、各方面他們希望可以全數配合，但是最主要是希望交通部能夠把國道2甲台15線延伸到台61線納入規劃及施作，地方政府的部分，經費、各方面他們希望跟交通部全面配合。"],["王部長國材：這個需要討論一下，因為一般高架段是我們負責，平面段、包括徵收、還有一些……"],["陳院長建仁：對，平面段是地方政府。"],["涂委員權吉：因為對於下方道路，交通部有負責舖平的責任。"],["王部長國材：對。"],["涂委員權吉：我希望直接先納入，不要做好以後，到時候再來什麼可行性評估、再徵收土地來做，是不是應該先納入，直接把工程在做高架橋梁的時候一次一併做好？"],["陳院長建仁：委員，就我的瞭解，當時的可行性評估好像只送高架路的部分，並沒有平面的可行性評估，如果現在平面要納進來，讓交通部跟地方政府一起來討論看看，好不好？"],["涂委員權吉：好，因為今天講的最主要目的……"],["陳院長建仁：當初做的是做高架路的評估。"],["涂委員權吉：民眾一直反映，希望能夠一併來施作，因為下面這個道路是一定要做的，為什麼不在做的時候一併來做，到時候又省時，民眾也不用等到高架做好，又再來做道路，把工程期拉得很長。"],["陳院長建仁：這是地方政府當初應該做的。"],["涂委員權吉：好，請部長再跟我們多幫忙，希望一併納入規劃及施作裡面。還有，現在五楊高架延伸，剛剛陳超明委員也有講，國道1號楊頭路的拓寬，就是楊梅到頭份，我們已經確定會去做了，現在針對楊梅的部分，是不是能夠把楊梅的增設匝道一併納入楊頭段的拓寬工程裡面，讓這個北出南入的匝道一併納入一起施作？"],["王部長國材：我們現在也在請高公局研究，這部分有在研究。"],["涂委員權吉：我有去瞭解，你有請地方交通局去做可行性評估，其實經過我們討論過，他說這個可行性評估是絕對要做，所以很多民眾及地方政府也希望交通部能夠把這個一併納入，不要像五楊高架的中豐北交流道，民國99年高架完成，現在隔了15年才去做中豐北交流道，當初做的時候就希望做，結果那時候不納入，你看現在又在那邊施工，民眾說15年前就可以規劃、可以完成的東西，為什麼要隔了15年以後再來做？所以希望楊梅增設匝道也納入楊頭段的拓寬工程裡面。"],["王部長國材：地方政府先提出來，然後跟我們一起討論。"],["涂委員權吉：好，希望這個提出之後，交通部能夠為我們民眾的福祉多幫忙配合。"],["王部長國材：先看那個結果。"],["陳院長建仁：委員……"],["涂委員權吉：還有，也是楊頭段拓寬……"],["陳院長建仁：委員，我打個岔，地方政府很重要，地方政府的規劃要提出來。"],["涂委員權吉：會、會、會，當然我希望交通部能夠納入，讓這個工程期能夠一次完成，避免二次施工造成時間的延宕。","還有也是針對楊頭段的拓寬工程，當初公路總局也有撥了一筆經費，把楊梅的生生路打通到秀才路，再連接到中山南路，就這部分公路局那時候好像有撥了二億多的經費。現在生生路打通到秀才路這個路段今年內就會通車，接下來就要連接到中山南路、也是縱貫路台1線，現在因為楊頭段拓寬工程，所以本來接著秀才路要能夠打通到校前路，但因為楊頭公路這個高架工程而暫時停擺，所以希望在北上方向也一樣，我們楊頭段的拓寬工程高架下方道路，是不是請交通部高公局也可以一併納入設計跟施作裡面？"],["王部長國材：這可能要看它整個高層怎麼接了，我想還是一樣，有一些分析，如果地方有這個想法，都可以討論。"],["涂委員權吉：好。"],["王部長國材：但是的確在工程面要去討論這部分。"],["陳院長建仁：對，要跟工程……"],["涂委員權吉：那我這邊提出，我也希望到時候我們要求我們地方政府交通局也來提出。"],["王部長國材：跟高公局討論一下。"],["涂委員權吉：最主要是交通部能夠來配合，我們希望真的把這個工程能夠一次來完成，不要做了以後，又再二次施工造成更多的問題。還有之前我們楊梅交流道有增設北上交流道的專用道，增設這個專用道之後，當然對於我們縱貫路，還有高速公路交流道當初交通壅塞改善的情形非常好，但是現在面臨一個問題就是機車族希望能夠增設一個機車專用道，避免他們在使用專用道的時候，跟下高速公路交流道很多的汽車相互擠壓、爭道路，造成他們很多的危險性，所以他們希望能夠在這個地方來增設我們的機車專用道。"],["王部長國材：是，這個部分因為它主要是要分流，我想這部分也一樣，就是交通局先提出來跟我們……"],["涂委員權吉：我希望這部分高公局能配合，因為這之前有提出，像我們南崁跟中壢新屋交流道都有做機車專用道，不知道為什麼到楊梅要爭取的時候，你們就百般提出很多的問題，說這也不行、那也不行，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00:02:32,254\n所以後來他們就選擇這個底價地但是後來當他們收到權狀之後收到這安置接貨權狀之後居然馬上房子都還沒蓋收到權狀之後就被這個排付條款排除在老農津貼跟國民年金之外所以是不是這部分我希望是不是應該享有同樣的待遇是不是院長這邊是不是可以來幫我們解決一下\n\n7\n00:02:32,774 --> 00:02:50,775\n我想這件事情的話我們行政院是由政府院長來召集相關的會議然後會來就這樣子的看起來比較不一致的這個的情況會來做相關的討論那當然他的老容津貼的這個部分還有國民年金\n\n8\n00:02:51,335 --> 00:02:53,598\n我希望院長再幫忙一下,因為那時候我們有提出\n\n9\n00:03:07,694 --> 00:03:28,773\n也希望那個政府院長在召開航空城這個專案會議的時候像3月11號我們希望說有希望來討論這部分可是後來我們發現好像並沒有討論所以希望院長這邊能夠交辦一下針對我們涂權機關農業部跟衛福部的部分希望跨部會來解決這個問題\n\n10\n00:03:30,762 --> 00:03:35,644\n因為當初民航局也有跟衛福部跟農業部說其實應該這個底價低應該也是符合這個損害賠償性質因為這個所得稅法說他們因為這個\n\n11\n00:03:45,253 --> 00:04:10,491\n拿現金是符合損害賠償性質所以他沒有在排付之內可是不知道為什麼反而拿這個同等值的地居然被排除在外所以民航局也認為說應該這個拿這個底價地應該也符合這損壞賠償性質所以這一部分希望我們院長幫我們這些徵收戶爭取他們合法的權益畢竟這些徵收戶都是\n\n12\n00:04:23,456 --> 00:04:41,552\n好,這個部分我剛才已經說過,我會請我們政府院長來召集相關的部會來討論。請院長這部分多幫忙。接下來我們看一下下一段針對我們道路改善的影片,我們先播放請大家來看一下。\n\n13\n00:04:46,976 --> 00:05:10,152\n這個是有加快速度這是前幾天我們去針對這個路段拍攝的這個影片他這一段路就是隨便走一段路那知道請問院長不然應該知道這一段是在哪裡吧知道\n\n14\n00:05:11,704 --> 00:05:31,051\n那是在哪裡?就是在這個觀音這一段。那部長對這也了解,因為我相信非常多的民眾陳情,這台六一我們桃園這沿海路段,它似乎到觀音這個路段,那這個坑坑洞洞的道路非常非常的不平整,而且\n\n15\n00:05:31,971 --> 00:05:32,792\n這個部分我想我們請部長來回答\n\n16\n00:05:58,608 --> 00:06:19,902\n對,各位報告,從111開始修啦,今年會徹底,有筆經費4.5億,會全部把它改善完畢。什麼時候開始動工修?從111年就開始修了。可是還是很壞啊。對,但是今年,今年113有4.5億會丟進去,總共把那個77公里全部把它修完。那預計什麼時候可以全面重複完成?\n\n17\n00:06:20,382 --> 00:06:39,024\n就是那個今年年底,今年年底全部修完。今年年底可以全部修復完成。所以現在已經陸續在修,今年年底我們就有一條完整的道路。是,現在大概已經修了三十幾公里了。好,那我也順便跟部長報告臺六一也是這樣,臺六六我相信你也接到很多反應嗎?是是。\n\n18\n00:06:39,304 --> 00:06:49,370\n還有我們台六六我們在觀音段現在還是平交入口常常發生很多的意外而且造成很多交通的瓶頸那這個全面高架什麼時候可以啟動?\n\n19\n00:07:06,021 --> 00:07:24,009\n現在有一段在施工了,現在這五個路口平面路口,比較靠海在關於這一部分是現在設計,事業會發包,然後另外再過來6K這部分現在已經在施工中了。\n\n20\n00:07:24,957 --> 00:07:26,298\n所以目前現在已經開始在施作,你說4月發保是嗎?\n\n21\n00:07:37,362 --> 00:08:04,332\n那個有一段在分兩標,有一標在施工,一標事業要花包。所以預計116年全部可以高價完成。好,那這部分還請我們部長來多叮嚀。那還有我們針對我們桃園市大園,國二甲台15線延伸到台61線這個新建工程,因為它這現在也是我們航空城主要的連外道路。那不知道現在這個進度到哪裡?\n\n22\n00:08:05,927 --> 00:08:18,301\n我們第一階段就是到臺15現在要贏到西平現在已經在積極的進行中那個時間我這邊不確定時間沒關係部長因為我的重點在後面\n\n23\n00:08:21,044 --> 00:08:40,111\n因為這個國道二甲延伸到台六一它延伸之後最主要我們希望把這個下面下方這個道路是否可以一併納入這個工程裡面不要到時候二次施工造成民眾這個二次的傷害而且到時候再施工絕對會把這個工程期又再延長\n\n24\n00:08:41,211 --> 00:09:10,067\n這有需要跟地方政府討論一下啦,因為這個跟地方政府有關係。對,這個我有跟地方政府先溝通過。他們說希望交通部納入經費的部分各方面他們希望可以全數配合,但是最主要希望交通部能夠納入這個國道二甲台15線延伸到台61線,希望把它納入規劃跟施作裡面。那地方政府的部分他說經費各方面他們希望跟交通部來全面配合。\n\n25\n00:09:11,557 --> 00:09:32,300\n這個需要討論一下因為我們一般是這個高教段是我們負責平面段包括徵收還有一些因為下方道路我們交通部有負責鋪平的責任那我是希望直接先納入不要做好以後到時候再來什麼可行性評估再來徵收土地再來做\n\n26\n00:09:39,666 --> 00:09:55,680\n委員當時的可行性評估就我的了解好像只是說高架路的部分並沒有在平面的這個可行性評估那如果現在平面要納進來這個我讓交通部跟地方政府齁一起來討論看看好不好因為當初當初做的是做高架路的評估嘛\n\n27\n00:09:59,744 --> 00:10:03,005\n請部長再跟我們多幫忙,希望把這個一併納入這個我們規劃跟施作裡面。\n\n28\n00:10:24,395 --> 00:10:51,392\n那還有我們現在五陽高價延伸就是剛剛我們陳昌明委員也有講國道1號這陽頭路的拓寬就是陽梅道頭份那這個我們已經確定會去做了那現在針對陽梅的部分是不是能夠把這個陽梅的針射閘道一併納入我們的陽頭段的拓寬工程裡面\n\n29\n00:10:51,877 --> 00:11:13,142\n希望這個北出南入這個閘道能夠一併納入來一起試做。我們現在請高工局也在研究啦,會過去,但這部分有在研究。因為我有去了解啦,那你有請那個地方交通局去做這個可行性評估。那其實經過我們討論過,他說這個可行性評估是絕對要做。\n\n30\n00:11:17,183 --> 00:11:44,264\n所以很多民眾還有地方政府也希望交通部能夠把這個一併納入不要像我們舞陽高架那個中峰北交流道民國99年高架完成現在隔了15年現在才去做中峰北的交流道當初做的時候就希望做結果那時候不納入你看現在又在那邊施工民眾說15年前就可以規劃可以完成的東西為什麼隔了15年以後再來做\n\n31\n00:11:44,764 --> 00:12:00,683\n所以希望這個楊梅增設閘道也希望納入我們楊頭段的拓寬工程裡面。這個地方政府先提出來,然後跟我們一起討論這樣。好,那希望這個提出來,希望交通部能夠為我們民眾的福祉多幫忙配合。\n\n32\n00:12:02,765 --> 00:12:05,126\n還有也是這個羊頭段拓寬的...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...\n\n33\n00:12:26,613 --> 00:12:51,849\n因為現在陽梅我們當初我們公路總局也有撥了一筆經費把我們陽梅深深路打通到秀才路然後再連接到我們的中山南路這一部分我們公路局那時候有撥了好像撥了兩億多的經費那像這個路段深深路打到秀才路這路段今年內就會通車接下來就要連接到我們的\n\n34\n00:12:52,569 --> 00:12:53,170\n﹚中山南路﹚\n\n35\n00:13:07,899 --> 00:13:20,230\n所以暫時停擺。所以是不是希望在北上方下一樣我們陽頭段這個拓寬工程高架下方道路我們是不是請交通部高工局也可以一併納入這個設計跟施作裡面。\n\n36\n00:13:23,252 --> 00:13:51,759\n這可能要看它的整個高層怎麼接啦我想還是一樣就是說有一些分析如果地方有這個想法我想說可以討論但是一切它工程面要去討論好那我這邊提出那我也希望到時候我們要求我們地方政府交通局也來提出然後最主要希望交通部能夠來配合我們希望真的把這個工程能夠一次來完成不要做了以後又再二次施工造成更多的問題\n\n37\n00:13:52,839 --> 00:14:05,291\n還有我們之前我們楊梅交流道有在那個增設北上的專用道楊梅交流道有增設的北上交流道的專用道\n\n38\n00:14:06,487 --> 00:14:30,824\n所以這是這個專用道之後當然對於我們縱貫路還有高速公路交流道當初這個交通擁捨改善改善的情形非常好但是現在面臨一個問題就是機車族希望能夠增設一個機車專用道避免他們在跟專用道的時候跟我們下高速公路交流道很多的汽車造成那個擠壓那個\n\n39\n00:14:32,845 --> 00:14:40,851\n曾曾道路後造成他們很多的危險性所以他們希望能夠在各個地方來增設我們的機車專用道\n\n40\n00:14:43,220 --> 00:15:06,923\n這個部分因為它主要是要分流嘛然後我想說這部分也一樣就是交通局先提出來對我希望這部分交通局配合因為這之前提出像我們南崁跟中壢新屋交通道都有做這個計策專用道不知道為什麼到陽梅爭取的時候你們就百般的很多的問題說這也不行那也不行可是對我們來講我們覺得那都是藉口\n\n41\n00:15:07,463 --> 00:15:07,823\n謝謝涂委員權吉的質詢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n69\t16672\t發言、質詢。謝謝。好,謝謝主席。那請我們陳建仁陳院長。再請陳院長備詢。各位院長,\n30890\t58273\t好 院長我請問一下我們大圓航空城這個徵收案我們院長應該知道吧我知道因為他是我們中華民國有史以來區段徵收最大的開發案那徵收這個面積也突破到3148公頃那當初這些搬遷的市民他這個徵收有兩種補償方式那院長知道哪兩種補償方式嗎\n59855\t66161\t主要分兩種,一種是現金的補償,還有一種是抵價地。一個是用錢用現金,另外一個就是也是用現金等值的抵價地。兩種方式給我們徵收戶的民眾去選擇。\n83999\t98084\t那這些徵收戶他都是配合國家重大建設跟政策那所以我認為他們是不是應該都享有同樣的待遇對應該那現在他們面臨一個問題就是我們這些徵收戶他選擇現金補償的\n105097\t125883\t他現金補償以後他的老農津貼跟國民年金沒有被排富所影響但是後來這些徵收戶因為有百分之九十幾因為他們認為這個地他被徵收掉他希望拿回這個地那我們政府也希望說不用發那麼多錢出去用地去抵這個地\n126403\t152254\t所以後來他們就選擇這個底價地但是後來當他們收到權狀之後收到這安置接貨權狀之後居然馬上房子都還沒蓋收到權狀之後就被這個排付條款排除在老農津貼跟國民年金之外所以是不是這部分我希望是不是應該享有同樣的待遇是不是院長這邊是不是可以來幫我們解決一下\n152774\t170775\t我想這件事情的話我們行政院是由政府院長來召集相關的會議然後會來就這樣子的看起來比較不一致的這個的情況會來做相關的討論那當然他的老容津貼的這個部分還有國民年金\n171335\t173598\t我希望院長再幫忙一下,因為那時候我們有提出\n187694\t208773\t也希望那個政府院長在召開航空城這個專案會議的時候像3月11號我們希望說有希望來討論這部分可是後來我們發現好像並沒有討論所以希望院長這邊能夠交辦一下針對我們涂權機關農業部跟衛福部的部分希望跨部會來解決這個問題\n210762\t215644\t因為當初民航局也有跟衛福部跟農業部說其實應該這個底價低應該也是符合這個損害賠償性質因為這個所得稅法說他們因為這個\n225253\t250491\t拿現金是符合損害賠償性質所以他沒有在排付之內可是不知道為什麼反而拿這個同等值的地居然被排除在外所以民航局也認為說應該這個拿這個底價地應該也符合這損壞賠償性質所以這一部分希望我們院長幫我們這些徵收戶爭取他們合法的權益畢竟這些徵收戶都是\n250691\t263234\t﹗\n263456\t281552\t好,這個部分我剛才已經說過,我會請我們政府院長來召集相關的部會來討論。請院長這部分多幫忙。接下來我們看一下下一段針對我們道路改善的影片,我們先播放請大家來看一下。\n286976\t310152\t這個是有加快速度這是前幾天我們去針對這個路段拍攝的這個影片他這一段路就是隨便走一段路那知道請問院長不然應該知道這一段是在哪裡吧知道\n311704\t331051\t那是在哪裡?就是在這個觀音這一段。那部長對這也了解,因為我相信非常多的民眾陳情,這台六一我們桃園這沿海路段,它似乎到觀音這個路段,那這個坑坑洞洞的道路非常非常的不平整,而且\n331971\t332792\t這個部分我想我們請部長來回答\n358608\t379902\t對,各位報告,從111開始修啦,今年會徹底,有筆經費4.5億,會全部把它改善完畢。什麼時候開始動工修?從111年就開始修了。可是還是很壞啊。對,但是今年,今年113有4.5億會丟進去,總共把那個77公里全部把它修完。那預計什麼時候可以全面重複完成?\n380382\t399024\t就是那個今年年底,今年年底全部修完。今年年底可以全部修復完成。所以現在已經陸續在修,今年年底我們就有一條完整的道路。是,現在大概已經修了三十幾公里了。好,那我也順便跟部長報告臺六一也是這樣,臺六六我相信你也接到很多反應嗎?是是。\n399304\t409370\t還有我們台六六我們在觀音段現在還是平交入口常常發生很多的意外而且造成很多交通的瓶頸那這個全面高架什麼時候可以啟動?\n426021\t444009\t現在有一段在施工了,現在這五個路口平面路口,比較靠海在關於這一部分是現在設計,事業會發包,然後另外再過來6K這部分現在已經在施工中了。\n444957\t446298\t所以目前現在已經開始在施作,你說4月發保是嗎?\n457362\t484332\t那個有一段在分兩標,有一標在施工,一標事業要花包。所以預計116年全部可以高價完成。好,那這部分還請我們部長來多叮嚀。那還有我們針對我們桃園市大園,國二甲台15線延伸到台61線這個新建工程,因為它這現在也是我們航空城主要的連外道路。那不知道現在這個進度到哪裡?\n485927\t498301\t我們第一階段就是到臺15現在要贏到西平現在已經在積極的進行中那個時間我這邊不確定時間沒關係部長因為我的重點在後面\n501044\t520111\t因為這個國道二甲延伸到台六一它延伸之後最主要我們希望把這個下面下方這個道路是否可以一併納入這個工程裡面不要到時候二次施工造成民眾這個二次的傷害而且到時候再施工絕對會把這個工程期又再延長\n521211\t550067\t這有需要跟地方政府討論一下啦,因為這個跟地方政府有關係。對,這個我有跟地方政府先溝通過。他們說希望交通部納入經費的部分各方面他們希望可以全數配合,但是最主要希望交通部能夠納入這個國道二甲台15線延伸到台61線,希望把它納入規劃跟施作裡面。那地方政府的部分他說經費各方面他們希望跟交通部來全面配合。\n551557\t572300\t這個需要討論一下因為我們一般是這個高教段是我們負責平面段包括徵收還有一些因為下方道路我們交通部有負責鋪平的責任那我是希望直接先納入不要做好以後到時候再來什麼可行性評估再來徵收土地再來做\n579666\t595680\t委員當時的可行性評估就我的了解好像只是說高架路的部分並沒有在平面的這個可行性評估那如果現在平面要納進來這個我讓交通部跟地方政府齁一起來討論看看好不好因為當初當初做的是做高架路的評估嘛\n599744\t603005\t請部長再跟我們多幫忙,希望把這個一併納入這個我們規劃跟施作裡面。\n624395\t651392\t那還有我們現在五陽高價延伸就是剛剛我們陳昌明委員也有講國道1號這陽頭路的拓寬就是陽梅道頭份那這個我們已經確定會去做了那現在針對陽梅的部分是不是能夠把這個陽梅的針射閘道一併納入我們的陽頭段的拓寬工程裡面\n651877\t673142\t希望這個北出南入這個閘道能夠一併納入來一起試做。我們現在請高工局也在研究啦,會過去,但這部分有在研究。因為我有去了解啦,那你有請那個地方交通局去做這個可行性評估。那其實經過我們討論過,他說這個可行性評估是絕對要做。\n677183\t704264\t所以很多民眾還有地方政府也希望交通部能夠把這個一併納入不要像我們舞陽高架那個中峰北交流道民國99年高架完成現在隔了15年現在才去做中峰北的交流道當初做的時候就希望做結果那時候不納入你看現在又在那邊施工民眾說15年前就可以規劃可以完成的東西為什麼隔了15年以後再來做\n704764\t720683\t所以希望這個楊梅增設閘道也希望納入我們楊頭段的拓寬工程裡面。這個地方政府先提出來,然後跟我們一起討論這樣。好,那希望這個提出來,希望交通部能夠為我們民眾的福祉多幫忙配合。\n722765\t725126\t還有也是這個羊頭段拓寬的...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...\n746613\t771849\t因為現在陽梅我們當初我們公路總局也有撥了一筆經費把我們陽梅深深路打通到秀才路然後再連接到我們的中山南路這一部分我們公路局那時候有撥了好像撥了兩億多的經費那像這個路段深深路打到秀才路這路段今年內就會通車接下來就要連接到我們的\n772569\t773170\t﹚中山南路﹚\n787899\t800230\t所以暫時停擺。所以是不是希望在北上方下一樣我們陽頭段這個拓寬工程高架下方道路我們是不是請交通部高工局也可以一併納入這個設計跟施作裡面。\n803252\t831759\t這可能要看它的整個高層怎麼接啦我想還是一樣就是說有一些分析如果地方有這個想法我想說可以討論但是一切它工程面要去討論好那我這邊提出那我也希望到時候我們要求我們地方政府交通局也來提出然後最主要希望交通部能夠來配合我們希望真的把這個工程能夠一次來完成不要做了以後又再二次施工造成更多的問題\n832839\t845291\t還有我們之前我們楊梅交流道有在那個增設北上的專用道楊梅交流道有增設的北上交流道的專用道\n846487\t870824\t所以這是這個專用道之後當然對於我們縱貫路還有高速公路交流道當初這個交通擁捨改善改善的情形非常好但是現在面臨一個問題就是機車族希望能夠增設一個機車專用道避免他們在跟專用道的時候跟我們下高速公路交流道很多的汽車造成那個擠壓那個\n872845\t880851\t曾曾道路後造成他們很多的危險性所以他們希望能夠在各個地方來增設我們的機車專用道\n883220\t906923\t這個部分因為它主要是要分流嘛然後我想說這部分也一樣就是交通局先提出來對我希望這部分交通局配合因為這之前提出像我們南崁跟中壢新屋交通道都有做這個計策專用道不知道為什麼到陽梅爭取的時候你們就百般的很多的問題說這也不行那也不行可是對我們來講我們覺得那都是藉口\n907463\t907823\t謝謝涂委員權吉的質詢\n","txt":"發言、質詢。謝謝。好,謝謝主席。那請我們陳建仁陳院長。再請陳院長備詢。各位院長,\n好 院長我請問一下我們大圓航空城這個徵收案我們院長應該知道吧我知道因為他是我們中華民國有史以來區段徵收最大的開發案那徵收這個面積也突破到3148公頃那當初這些搬遷的市民他這個徵收有兩種補償方式那院長知道哪兩種補償方式嗎\n主要分兩種,一種是現金的補償,還有一種是抵價地。一個是用錢用現金,另外一個就是也是用現金等值的抵價地。兩種方式給我們徵收戶的民眾去選擇。\n那這些徵收戶他都是配合國家重大建設跟政策那所以我認為他們是不是應該都享有同樣的待遇對應該那現在他們面臨一個問題就是我們這些徵收戶他選擇現金補償的\n他現金補償以後他的老農津貼跟國民年金沒有被排富所影響但是後來這些徵收戶因為有百分之九十幾因為他們認為這個地他被徵收掉他希望拿回這個地那我們政府也希望說不用發那麼多錢出去用地去抵這個地\n所以後來他們就選擇這個底價地但是後來當他們收到權狀之後收到這安置接貨權狀之後居然馬上房子都還沒蓋收到權狀之後就被這個排付條款排除在老農津貼跟國民年金之外所以是不是這部分我希望是不是應該享有同樣的待遇是不是院長這邊是不是可以來幫我們解決一下\n我想這件事情的話我們行政院是由政府院長來召集相關的會議然後會來就這樣子的看起來比較不一致的這個的情況會來做相關的討論那當然他的老容津貼的這個部分還有國民年金\n我希望院長再幫忙一下,因為那時候我們有提出\n也希望那個政府院長在召開航空城這個專案會議的時候像3月11號我們希望說有希望來討論這部分可是後來我們發現好像並沒有討論所以希望院長這邊能夠交辦一下針對我們涂權機關農業部跟衛福部的部分希望跨部會來解決這個問題\n因為當初民航局也有跟衛福部跟農業部說其實應該這個底價低應該也是符合這個損害賠償性質因為這個所得稅法說他們因為這個\n拿現金是符合損害賠償性質所以他沒有在排付之內可是不知道為什麼反而拿這個同等值的地居然被排除在外所以民航局也認為說應該這個拿這個底價地應該也符合這損壞賠償性質所以這一部分希望我們院長幫我們這些徵收戶爭取他們合法的權益畢竟這些徵收戶都是\n﹗\n好,這個部分我剛才已經說過,我會請我們政府院長來召集相關的部會來討論。請院長這部分多幫忙。接下來我們看一下下一段針對我們道路改善的影片,我們先播放請大家來看一下。\n這個是有加快速度這是前幾天我們去針對這個路段拍攝的這個影片他這一段路就是隨便走一段路那知道請問院長不然應該知道這一段是在哪裡吧知道\n那是在哪裡?就是在這個觀音這一段。那部長對這也了解,因為我相信非常多的民眾陳情,這台六一我們桃園這沿海路段,它似乎到觀音這個路段,那這個坑坑洞洞的道路非常非常的不平整,而且\n這個部分我想我們請部長來回答\n對,各位報告,從111開始修啦,今年會徹底,有筆經費4.5億,會全部把它改善完畢。什麼時候開始動工修?從111年就開始修了。可是還是很壞啊。對,但是今年,今年113有4.5億會丟進去,總共把那個77公里全部把它修完。那預計什麼時候可以全面重複完成?\n就是那個今年年底,今年年底全部修完。今年年底可以全部修復完成。所以現在已經陸續在修,今年年底我們就有一條完整的道路。是,現在大概已經修了三十幾公里了。好,那我也順便跟部長報告臺六一也是這樣,臺六六我相信你也接到很多反應嗎?是是。\n還有我們台六六我們在觀音段現在還是平交入口常常發生很多的意外而且造成很多交通的瓶頸那這個全面高架什麼時候可以啟動?\n現在有一段在施工了,現在這五個路口平面路口,比較靠海在關於這一部分是現在設計,事業會發包,然後另外再過來6K這部分現在已經在施工中了。\n所以目前現在已經開始在施作,你說4月發保是嗎?\n那個有一段在分兩標,有一標在施工,一標事業要花包。所以預計116年全部可以高價完成。好,那這部分還請我們部長來多叮嚀。那還有我們針對我們桃園市大園,國二甲台15線延伸到台61線這個新建工程,因為它這現在也是我們航空城主要的連外道路。那不知道現在這個進度到哪裡?\n我們第一階段就是到臺15現在要贏到西平現在已經在積極的進行中那個時間我這邊不確定時間沒關係部長因為我的重點在後面\n因為這個國道二甲延伸到台六一它延伸之後最主要我們希望把這個下面下方這個道路是否可以一併納入這個工程裡面不要到時候二次施工造成民眾這個二次的傷害而且到時候再施工絕對會把這個工程期又再延長\n這有需要跟地方政府討論一下啦,因為這個跟地方政府有關係。對,這個我有跟地方政府先溝通過。他們說希望交通部納入經費的部分各方面他們希望可以全數配合,但是最主要希望交通部能夠納入這個國道二甲台15線延伸到台61線,希望把它納入規劃跟施作裡面。那地方政府的部分他說經費各方面他們希望跟交通部來全面配合。\n這個需要討論一下因為我們一般是這個高教段是我們負責平面段包括徵收還有一些因為下方道路我們交通部有負責鋪平的責任那我是希望直接先納入不要做好以後到時候再來什麼可行性評估再來徵收土地再來做\n委員當時的可行性評估就我的了解好像只是說高架路的部分並沒有在平面的這個可行性評估那如果現在平面要納進來這個我讓交通部跟地方政府齁一起來討論看看好不好因為當初當初做的是做高架路的評估嘛\n請部長再跟我們多幫忙,希望把這個一併納入這個我們規劃跟施作裡面。\n那還有我們現在五陽高價延伸就是剛剛我們陳昌明委員也有講國道1號這陽頭路的拓寬就是陽梅道頭份那這個我們已經確定會去做了那現在針對陽梅的部分是不是能夠把這個陽梅的針射閘道一併納入我們的陽頭段的拓寬工程裡面\n希望這個北出南入這個閘道能夠一併納入來一起試做。我們現在請高工局也在研究啦,會過去,但這部分有在研究。因為我有去了解啦,那你有請那個地方交通局去做這個可行性評估。那其實經過我們討論過,他說這個可行性評估是絕對要做。\n所以很多民眾還有地方政府也希望交通部能夠把這個一併納入不要像我們舞陽高架那個中峰北交流道民國99年高架完成現在隔了15年現在才去做中峰北的交流道當初做的時候就希望做結果那時候不納入你看現在又在那邊施工民眾說15年前就可以規劃可以完成的東西為什麼隔了15年以後再來做\n所以希望這個楊梅增設閘道也希望納入我們楊頭段的拓寬工程裡面。這個地方政府先提出來,然後跟我們一起討論這樣。好,那希望這個提出來,希望交通部能夠為我們民眾的福祉多幫忙配合。\n還有也是這個羊頭段拓寬的...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...\n因為現在陽梅我們當初我們公路總局也有撥了一筆經費把我們陽梅深深路打通到秀才路然後再連接到我們的中山南路這一部分我們公路局那時候有撥了好像撥了兩億多的經費那像這個路段深深路打到秀才路這路段今年內就會通車接下來就要連接到我們的\n﹚中山南路﹚\n所以暫時停擺。所以是不是希望在北上方下一樣我們陽頭段這個拓寬工程高架下方道路我們是不是請交通部高工局也可以一併納入這個設計跟施作裡面。\n這可能要看它的整個高層怎麼接啦我想還是一樣就是說有一些分析如果地方有這個想法我想說可以討論但是一切它工程面要去討論好那我這邊提出那我也希望到時候我們要求我們地方政府交通局也來提出然後最主要希望交通部能夠來配合我們希望真的把這個工程能夠一次來完成不要做了以後又再二次施工造成更多的問題\n還有我們之前我們楊梅交流道有在那個增設北上的專用道楊梅交流道有增設的北上交流道的專用道\n所以這是這個專用道之後當然對於我們縱貫路還有高速公路交流道當初這個交通擁捨改善改善的情形非常好但是現在面臨一個問題就是機車族希望能夠增設一個機車專用道避免他們在跟專用道的時候跟我們下高速公路交流道很多的汽車造成那個擠壓那個\n曾曾道路後造成他們很多的危險性所以他們希望能夠在各個地方來增設我們的機車專用道\n這個部分因為它主要是要分流嘛然後我想說這部分也一樣就是交通局先提出來對我希望這部分交通局配合因為這之前提出像我們南崁跟中壢新屋交通道都有做這個計策專用道不知道為什麼到陽梅爭取的時候你們就百般的很多的問題說這也不行那也不行可是對我們來講我們覺得那都是藉口\n謝謝涂委員權吉的質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.069 --> 00:16.672\n發言、質詢。謝謝。好,謝謝主席。那請我們陳建仁陳院長。再請陳院長備詢。各位院長,\n\n00:30.890 --> 00:58.273\n好院長我請問一下我們大圓航空城這個徵收案我們院長應該知道吧我知道因為他是我們中華民國有史以來區段徵收最大的開發案那徵收這個面積也突破到3148公頃那當初這些搬遷的市民他這個徵收有兩種補償方式那院長知道哪兩種補償方式嗎\n\n00:59.855 --> 01:06.161\n主要分兩種,一種是現金的補償,還有一種是抵價地。一個是用錢用現金,另外一個就是也是用現金等值的抵價地。兩種方式給我們徵收戶的民眾去選擇。\n\n01:23.999 --> 01:38.084\n那這些徵收戶他都是配合國家重大建設跟政策那所以我認為他們是不是應該都享有同樣的待遇對應該那現在他們面臨一個問題就是我們這些徵收戶他選擇現金補償的\n\n01:45.097 --> 02:05.883\n他現金補償以後他的老農津貼跟國民年金沒有被排富所影響但是後來這些徵收戶因為有百分之九十幾因為他們認為這個地他被徵收掉他希望拿回這個地那我們政府也希望說不用發那麼多錢出去用地去抵這個地\n\n02:06.403 --> 02:32.254\n所以後來他們就選擇這個底價地但是後來當他們收到權狀之後收到這安置接貨權狀之後居然馬上房子都還沒蓋收到權狀之後就被這個排付條款排除在老農津貼跟國民年金之外所以是不是這部分我希望是不是應該享有同樣的待遇是不是院長這邊是不是可以來幫我們解決一下\n\n02:32.774 --> 02:50.775\n我想這件事情的話我們行政院是由政府院長來召集相關的會議然後會來就這樣子的看起來比較不一致的這個的情況會來做相關的討論那當然他的老容津貼的這個部分還有國民年金\n\n02:51.335 --> 02:53.598\n我希望院長再幫忙一下,因為那時候我們有提出\n\n03:07.694 --> 03:28.773\n也希望那個政府院長在召開航空城這個專案會議的時候像3月11號我們希望說有希望來討論這部分可是後來我們發現好像並沒有討論所以希望院長這邊能夠交辦一下針對我們涂權機關農業部跟衛福部的部分希望跨部會來解決這個問題\n\n03:30.762 --> 03:35.644\n因為當初民航局也有跟衛福部跟農業部說其實應該這個底價低應該也是符合這個損害賠償性質因為這個所得稅法說他們因為這個\n\n03:45.253 --> 04:10.491\n拿現金是符合損害賠償性質所以他沒有在排付之內可是不知道為什麼反而拿這個同等值的地居然被排除在外所以民航局也認為說應該這個拿這個底價地應該也符合這損壞賠償性質所以這一部分希望我們院長幫我們這些徵收戶爭取他們合法的權益畢竟這些徵收戶都是\n\n04:23.456 --> 04:41.552\n好,這個部分我剛才已經說過,我會請我們政府院長來召集相關的部會來討論。請院長這部分多幫忙。接下來我們看一下下一段針對我們道路改善的影片,我們先播放請大家來看一下。\n\n04:46.976 --> 05:10.152\n這個是有加快速度這是前幾天我們去針對這個路段拍攝的這個影片他這一段路就是隨便走一段路那知道請問院長不然應該知道這一段是在哪裡吧知道\n\n05:11.704 --> 05:31.051\n那是在哪裡?就是在這個觀音這一段。那部長對這也了解,因為我相信非常多的民眾陳情,這台六一我們桃園這沿海路段,它似乎到觀音這個路段,那這個坑坑洞洞的道路非常非常的不平整,而且\n\n05:31.971 --> 05:32.792\n這個部分我想我們請部長來回答\n\n05:58.608 --> 06:19.902\n對,各位報告,從111開始修啦,今年會徹底,有筆經費4.5億,會全部把它改善完畢。什麼時候開始動工修?從111年就開始修了。可是還是很壞啊。對,但是今年,今年113有4.5億會丟進去,總共把那個77公里全部把它修完。那預計什麼時候可以全面重複完成?\n\n06:20.382 --> 06:39.024\n就是那個今年年底,今年年底全部修完。今年年底可以全部修復完成。所以現在已經陸續在修,今年年底我們就有一條完整的道路。是,現在大概已經修了三十幾公里了。好,那我也順便跟部長報告臺六一也是這樣,臺六六我相信你也接到很多反應嗎?是是。\n\n06:39.304 --> 06:49.370\n還有我們台六六我們在觀音段現在還是平交入口常常發生很多的意外而且造成很多交通的瓶頸那這個全面高架什麼時候可以啟動?\n\n07:06.021 --> 07:24.009\n現在有一段在施工了,現在這五個路口平面路口,比較靠海在關於這一部分是現在設計,事業會發包,然後另外再過來6K這部分現在已經在施工中了。\n\n07:24.957 --> 07:26.298\n所以目前現在已經開始在施作,你說4月發保是嗎?\n\n07:37.362 --> 08:04.332\n那個有一段在分兩標,有一標在施工,一標事業要花包。所以預計116年全部可以高價完成。好,那這部分還請我們部長來多叮嚀。那還有我們針對我們桃園市大園,國二甲台15線延伸到台61線這個新建工程,因為它這現在也是我們航空城主要的連外道路。那不知道現在這個進度到哪裡?\n\n08:05.927 --> 08:18.301\n我們第一階段就是到臺15現在要贏到西平現在已經在積極的進行中那個時間我這邊不確定時間沒關係部長因為我的重點在後面\n\n08:21.044 --> 08:40.111\n因為這個國道二甲延伸到台六一它延伸之後最主要我們希望把這個下面下方這個道路是否可以一併納入這個工程裡面不要到時候二次施工造成民眾這個二次的傷害而且到時候再施工絕對會把這個工程期又再延長\n\n08:41.211 --> 09:10.067\n這有需要跟地方政府討論一下啦,因為這個跟地方政府有關係。對,這個我有跟地方政府先溝通過。他們說希望交通部納入經費的部分各方面他們希望可以全數配合,但是最主要希望交通部能夠納入這個國道二甲台15線延伸到台61線,希望把它納入規劃跟施作裡面。那地方政府的部分他說經費各方面他們希望跟交通部來全面配合。\n\n09:11.557 --> 09:32.300\n這個需要討論一下因為我們一般是這個高教段是我們負責平面段包括徵收還有一些因為下方道路我們交通部有負責鋪平的責任那我是希望直接先納入不要做好以後到時候再來什麼可行性評估再來徵收土地再來做\n\n09:39.666 --> 09:55.680\n委員當時的可行性評估就我的了解好像只是說高架路的部分並沒有在平面的這個可行性評估那如果現在平面要納進來這個我讓交通部跟地方政府齁一起來討論看看好不好因為當初當初做的是做高架路的評估嘛\n\n09:59.744 --> 10:03.005\n請部長再跟我們多幫忙,希望把這個一併納入這個我們規劃跟施作裡面。\n\n10:24.395 --> 10:51.392\n那還有我們現在五陽高價延伸就是剛剛我們陳昌明委員也有講國道1號這陽頭路的拓寬就是陽梅道頭份那這個我們已經確定會去做了那現在針對陽梅的部分是不是能夠把這個陽梅的針射閘道一併納入我們的陽頭段的拓寬工程裡面\n\n10:51.877 --> 11:13.142\n希望這個北出南入這個閘道能夠一併納入來一起試做。我們現在請高工局也在研究啦,會過去,但這部分有在研究。因為我有去了解啦,那你有請那個地方交通局去做這個可行性評估。那其實經過我們討論過,他說這個可行性評估是絕對要做。\n\n11:17.183 --> 11:44.264\n所以很多民眾還有地方政府也希望交通部能夠把這個一併納入不要像我們舞陽高架那個中峰北交流道民國99年高架完成現在隔了15年現在才去做中峰北的交流道當初做的時候就希望做結果那時候不納入你看現在又在那邊施工民眾說15年前就可以規劃可以完成的東西為什麼隔了15年以後再來做\n\n11:44.764 --> 12:00.683\n所以希望這個楊梅增設閘道也希望納入我們楊頭段的拓寬工程裡面。這個地方政府先提出來,然後跟我們一起討論這樣。好,那希望這個提出來,希望交通部能夠為我們民眾的福祉多幫忙配合。\n\n12:02.765 --> 12:05.126\n還有也是這個羊頭段拓寬的...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...我...\n\n12:26.613 --> 12:51.849\n因為現在陽梅我們當初我們公路總局也有撥了一筆經費把我們陽梅深深路打通到秀才路然後再連接到我們的中山南路這一部分我們公路局那時候有撥了好像撥了兩億多的經費那像這個路段深深路打到秀才路這路段今年內就會通車接下來就要連接到我們的\n\n12:52.569 --> 12:53.170\n﹚中山南路﹚\n\n13:07.899 --> 13:20.230\n所以暫時停擺。所以是不是希望在北上方下一樣我們陽頭段這個拓寬工程高架下方道路我們是不是請交通部高工局也可以一併納入這個設計跟施作裡面。\n\n13:23.252 --> 13:51.759\n這可能要看它的整個高層怎麼接啦我想還是一樣就是說有一些分析如果地方有這個想法我想說可以討論但是一切它工程面要去討論好那我這邊提出那我也希望到時候我們要求我們地方政府交通局也來提出然後最主要希望交通部能夠來配合我們希望真的把這個工程能夠一次來完成不要做了以後又再二次施工造成更多的問題\n\n13:52.839 --> 14:05.291\n還有我們之前我們楊梅交流道有在那個增設北上的專用道楊梅交流道有增設的北上交流道的專用道\n\n14:06.487 --> 14:30.824\n所以這是這個專用道之後當然對於我們縱貫路還有高速公路交流道當初這個交通擁捨改善改善的情形非常好但是現在面臨一個問題就是機車族希望能夠增設一個機車專用道避免他們在跟專用道的時候跟我們下高速公路交流道很多的汽車造成那個擠壓那個\n\n14:32.845 --> 14:40.851\n曾曾道路後造成他們很多的危險性所以他們希望能夠在各個地方來增設我們的機車專用道\n\n14:43.220 --> 15:06.923\n這個部分因為它主要是要分流嘛然後我想說這部分也一樣就是交通局先提出來對我希望這部分交通局配合因為這之前提出像我們南崁跟中壢新屋交通道都有做這個計策專用道不知道為什麼到陽梅爭取的時候你們就百般的很多的問題說這也不行那也不行可是對我們來講我們覺得那都是藉口\n\n15:07.463 --> 15:07.823\n謝謝涂委員權吉的質詢\n\n","segments":[{"start":0.069,"end":16.672,"text":"發言、質詢。謝謝。好,謝謝主席。那請我們陳建仁陳院長。再請陳院長備詢。各位院長,"},{"start":30.89,"end":58.273,"text":"好 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