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contract，所以這跟你們……"],["許部長銘春：委員，這是誤植，這是很大的錯誤，要立即更新，不能因為懷孕而終止任何的勞動契約，禁止歧視。抱歉，謝謝委員，他們業務單位不夠……這個在更新的時候沒有……"],["陳委員菁徽：那可以請各位今天回去稍微看一下？"],["許部長銘春：可以，馬上處理。"],["陳委員菁徽：我也很好奇，111年、112年、113年這些剛入境的移工拿到的手冊是不是這個版本？因為這是2023年1月的。"],["許部長銘春：報告委員，我們針對移工來臺的家庭看護部分有入境講習，所給的資料都是正確的，那網站的部分，可能他們當時在處理的時候……不應該發生這種錯誤啦！馬上要更正，謝謝委員的關心，幫我們注意到這個疏失，真的很感謝你。"],["陳委員菁徽：好，謝謝。接下來，因為今天是討論職災、職安，我們今天有講到113年有一個口號是「營造業墜落打擊元年」，但110年你們的口號是「營造業減災加強年」，請問110年到113年的口號轉變有什麼特別的因素嗎？"],["許部長銘春：報告委員，這不是口號，主要是一些策略，我們針對營造業的減災每年都會有不同的策略，因為營造業現在是所有行業裡面職災發生率最高的，所以這幾年在減災時會發現到底哪些工作型態發生的職災最多，我們發現墜落其實一直是營造業職災事件很重要的一個原因，所以我們特別把這個挑出來，就是希望在防止墜落方面能夠加強相關的策略，包括加強檢查、加強勤查嚴罰等等，讓這樣的事件能夠……"],["陳委員菁徽：我們看一下數據，110年當時認為營造業是重大職災發生率最高的，所以110年我們訂立為營造業的職災加強年，但是你看111年，雖然僱工的人數下降，結果死亡人數反而上升，連製造業也發生一樣的狀況，是不是因為這個加強年的措施你們後來發現好像沒有什麼用，所以113年又推出一個新的口號？"],["許部長銘春：報告委員，我還是要強調這不是口號啦，就是說這是一個目標，我們要達成。當然我們每年都有設定一個目標，110年、111年的職災人數是增加，但是112（去）年有降下來。"],["陳委員菁徽：有，我看到業報有寫，但112年其實只是回到 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00:00:43,079\n看一下這個網站是每一個移工都會看的嘛但是我們現在已經113年了你的勞動權益網還停留在111年的版本我們這個我請業務單位要趕快更新改進謝謝委員提醒謝謝\n\n3\n00:00:58,686 --> 00:01:06,900\n其實上禮拜我們有打去詢問所以你們已經更新了結果你們更新以後呢我又看了最新的版本\n\n4\n00:01:08,325 --> 00:01:35,374\n我們有討論到說移工因為自己怕被趕出去啊強制解約啊所以逃跑嘛造成許多黑戶寶寶的產生但這個是最新版的喔這上禮拜更新完你會發現說懷孕移工的指引中文還是寫如果因為懷孕等因素無法升任工作僱主得主張終止契約英文寫得更可怕他說可以terminateyourcontract\n\n5\n00:01:36,414 --> 00:01:51,949\n所以這跟你們...委員這物質這很差的說要立即要更新啦這個不能因為懷孕而去終止任何的勞動契約啦這個是禁止歧視啊我們現在這個抱歉謝謝委員他們業務單位沒有\n\n6\n00:01:58,078 --> 00:02:11,269\n請各位今天回去稍微看一下我也很好奇111年、112年、113年這些剛入境的移工他們拿到的手冊是不是這個版本\n\n7\n00:02:12,267 --> 00:02:13,387\n因為今天是討論職災、職安\n\n8\n00:02:42,352 --> 00:02:51,816\n我們今天有講到113年有一個口號是營造業墜落打擊元年但110年你們的口號是營造業減災加強年請問110年到113年你們這個口號的轉變有什麼特別的因素嗎\n\n9\n00:03:00,936 --> 00:03:27,192\n報告委員這不是口號就是因為主要是一些策略我們針對營造業的減災我們每年都會有不同的一些策略因為營造業現在是所有的大概職災發生率最高的所以我們在這幾年比如我們在減災的時候會發現說到底哪些工作型態發生職災會最多那發現那個最弱最弱其實是一直高居這個營造\n\n10\n00:03:28,192 --> 00:03:32,213\n二、處理中華民國11年度中央政府總預算有關勞動部主管預算凍結案21案及討論二、處理中華民國11年度中央政府總預算有關勞動部主管預算凍結案21案及討論\n\n11\n00:03:50,718 --> 00:04:10,588\n110年當時說營造業嘛營造業覺得是重大職災發生率最高的所以110年我們定義為職災加強年營造業喔但是你看111年雖然故宮的人數是下降的結果死亡的人數反而是上升的\n\n12\n00:04:11,908 --> 00:04:22,554\n連製造業也是發生一樣的狀況所以是不是你們這個加強年的措施你們後來發現好像沒有什麼用所以113年又推出一個新的口號\n\n13\n00:04:25,233 --> 00:04:47,869\n我還是要強調不是口號啦就是說這是一個目標我們要達成那當然像我們每年都會設定一個目標那當然像110年111年的這個這個職災人數是增加但是我們110去年我看了夜報有寫但112年其實只是回到110年的數據而已\n\n14\n00:04:52,337 --> 00:05:20,080\n這個部分當然委員我們會滾動來檢討因為現在也是因為整個國內這個村井建造的那種樓地板面積都增加就可以知道說那整個建案多啦有時候缺工趕工都會讓這些職災的風險提高所以我們也會去檢討原因為什麼沒有達到目標我們要精進我們相關的策略我們很希望113年、114年可以看到它穩定的下降好\n\n15\n00:05:21,901 --> 00:05:41,164\n這次呢去年我們通過職業職災保險法嘛所以我們推出了這些職災中心等等政策所以我上網把這個影片全部都看完其實拍得很好你們花了200萬拍了幾支影片跟勞工們宣傳職災中心有哪些服務這個影片是關於呢\n\n16\n00:05:42,085 --> 00:06:04,157\n一個麵包工人他受傷所以這個職災中心的各管師他協助他除了復建以外有一個很重要的亮點就是建立重建機制可以建立重建機制讓他順利的回到他原本的工作所以這個各管師就協助他申請了一個輔助設施他復建完之後呢\n\n17\n00:06:05,217 --> 00:06:21,999\n有一個機器可以幫助他把東西搬上搬下讓他不會再舊傷又重發啦所以這個片裡面他都強調說有這個建立重建機制的服務也把這個當成你們宣傳的重點結果咧我們來看一下\n\n18\n00:06:24,301 --> 00:06:39,121\n這是上禮拜查到的數據112年我們通過植栽中心也開始服務了以後輔助設施補助只有通過了一件但這是你們的重點項目喔\n\n19\n00:06:40,785 --> 00:06:53,980\n所以我們在看到這個數據的時候我們會想未來因為還要審各位的預算如果這個申請輔助設施好像沒有那麼有效而且你們也沒有發現是什麼問題比如說是\n\n20\n00:06:56,022 --> 00:07:17,187\n我們當然要了解一下,因為這個輔助設施就是說你重建之後你回到職場那你可能需要一些補助的工具,那這個部分你有需求我們都可以按照我們相關宣傳來申請所以是因為宣傳不夠力還是申請的過程很繁瑣或是因為補助的金額可能雇主還是沒有辦法接受\n\n21\n00:07:18,087 --> 00:07:35,167\n其實報告委員因為這個勞工發生職災有時候是在他回到職場重建前他有一些必要的我們叫做器具補助那個就增加很多那個器具補助委員你可以看一下我們的\n\n22\n00:07:38,891 --> 00:08:00,360\n對,12年喔,是608件那113年到現在而已喔第一季就205件所以其實這個是搭配的啦看你是需要的是那個器具補助還是這種補助設施這個影片裡面強調的是補助設施所以我想你會拍這個影片表示你注意到以前有很多人有這樣子的需求\n\n23\n00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:18,326\n因為這個是法通過以後新的有些過去他可能不知道他知道有這個器具補助不知道這個輔助設施所以我們是增加這個部分鼓勵說如果你有需求你就來申請不過這部分我們再來加強\n\n24\n00:08:20,367 --> 00:08:48,033\n讓大家如果真的有需要不要客氣請他們一定要來申請那我也稍微提醒你一下因為你這些影片拍得不錯但目前在職安署的網站都還沒有更新你的職安署的網站還停留在兩年前所以勞工朋友可能很難找到這些資訊因為我們今天也會討論您的解凍案所以在這邊也稍微提醒部長一下\n\n25\n00:08:49,147 --> 00:09:15,998\n您在這個2018年的時候說一定要推動勞保年改但是最近呢又說三黨要坐下來談你也知道最近蔡總統跟柯主席已經吃了牛肉麵討論到這是一個一定要解決的事情但是呢你的解凍的報告裡面寫如果這些都是大家提出來很好的意見你們就把這四個意見列出來\n\n26\n00:09:17,128 --> 00:09:33,668\n但是最後的結論居然是週延規劃推動期程以確保勞工之保險給付權益這件事情我覺得上禮拜已經很多人問過啦但畢竟已經過了6年了部長你是不是應該要有一點方向跟想法\n\n27\n00:09:34,978 --> 00:09:51,772\n對,包委這一題的困難點就是說要怎麼凝聚共識包括跟勞資雙方跟各界或者三黨大家坐下來來討論看看這個改革的這個幅度、方向、項目等等這個都是凝聚共識那其實如果能夠\n\n28\n00:09:52,873 --> 00:10:06,609\n共識能夠達成後面就會很快所以我們這邊才會說即使這個部分還要再相關的溝通跟收集相關的意見那有關於推動的期程我們會周延來規劃所以期程到現在\n\n29\n00:10:08,010 --> 00:10:30,050\n報告委現在真的期程很難去講如果大家有共識以後是會很快如果還沒有的話當然這個期程我沒有辦法很明確說我當時可以來上但是我想這件事情我們是非常重視的也一直請同仁在做一些研議包括所以520以前不會有期程報告委可能520之前因為現在0520不到兩個月那這個\n\n30\n00:10:35,646 --> 00:10:50,571\n可能比較難啦但是如果大家有共識也會很快最後只是提醒您一下這個2017年您提出的草案這個你也都知道了所以我們那是106那個是勞動部那時候我還沒有上任啦2017\n\n31\n00:10:52,231 --> 00:11:09,452\n但是那個時候有草案嘛第10屆可以提出草案嘛它現在已經第11屆了嘛所以距離您宣誓一定要做改革至今似乎沒有提出任何草案這一點我們可能等一下討論這個結凍案的時候也要稍微把它列入考慮齁\n\n32\n00:11:11,955 --> 00:11:12,135\n陳婉嫻委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n14406\t18931\t主席各位官員各位同事早安我們有請部長請許部長陳副委員好謝謝部長我們接續剛剛談到的議題\n33735\t43079\t看一下這個網站是每一個移工都會看的嘛但是我們現在已經113年了你的勞動權益網還停留在111年的版本我們這個我請業務單位要趕快更新改進謝謝委員提醒 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contract\n96414\t111949\t所以這跟你們...委員這物質這很差的說要立即要更新啦這個不能因為懷孕而去終止任何的勞動契約啦這個是禁止歧視啊我們現在這個抱歉謝謝委員他們業務單位沒有\n118078\t131269\t請各位今天回去稍微看一下我也很好奇111年、112年、113年這些剛入境的移工他們拿到的手冊是不是這個版本\n132267\t133387\t因為今天是討論職災、職安\n162352\t171816\t我們今天有講到113年有一個口號是營造業墜落打擊元年但110年你們的口號是營造業減災加強年請問110年到113年你們這個口號的轉變有什麼特別的因素嗎\n180936\t207192\t報告委員這不是口號就是因為主要是一些策略我們針對營造業的減災我們每年都會有不同的一些策略因為營造業現在是所有的大概職災發生率最高的所以我們在這幾年比如我們在減災的時候會發現說到底哪些工作型態發生職災會最多那發現那個最弱最弱其實是一直高居這個營造\n208192\t212213\t二、處理中華民國11年度中央政府總預算有關勞動部主管預算凍結案21案及討論二、處理中華民國11年度中央政府總預算有關勞動部主管預算凍結案21案及討論\n230718\t250588\t110年當時說營造業嘛營造業覺得是重大職災發生率最高的所以110年我們定義為職災加強年營造業喔但是你看111年雖然故宮的人數是下降的結果死亡的人數反而是上升的\n251908\t262554\t連製造業也是發生一樣的狀況所以是不是你們這個加強年的措施你們後來發現好像沒有什麼用所以113年又推出一個新的口號\n265233\t287869\t我還是要強調不是口號啦就是說這是一個目標我們要達成那當然像我們每年都會設定一個目標那當然像110年111年的這個這個職災人數是增加但是我們110去年我看了夜報有寫但112年其實只是回到110年的數據而已\n292337\t320080\t這個部分當然委員我們會滾動來檢討因為現在也是因為整個國內這個村井建造的那種樓地板面積都增加就可以知道說那整個建案多啦有時候缺工趕工都會讓這些職災的風險提高所以我們也會去檢討原因為什麼沒有達到目標我們要精進我們相關的策略我們很希望113年、114年可以看到它穩定的下降好\n321901\t341164\t這次呢去年我們通過職業職災保險法嘛所以我們推出了這些職災中心等等政策所以我上網把這個影片全部都看完其實拍得很好你們花了200萬拍了幾支影片跟勞工們宣傳職災中心有哪些服務這個影片是關於呢\n342085\t364157\t一個麵包工人他受傷所以這個職災中心的各管師他協助他除了復建以外有一個很重要的亮點就是建立重建機制可以建立重建機制讓他順利的回到他原本的工作所以這個各管師就協助他申請了一個輔助設施他復建完之後呢\n365217\t381999\t有一個機器可以幫助他把東西搬上搬下讓他不會再舊傷又重發啦所以這個片裡面他都強調說有這個建立重建機制的服務也把這個當成你們宣傳的重點結果咧我們來看一下\n384301\t399121\t這是上禮拜查到的數據112年我們通過植栽中心也開始服務了以後輔助設施補助只有通過了一件但這是你們的重點項目喔\n400785\t413980\t所以我們在看到這個數據的時候我們會想未來因為還要審各位的預算如果這個申請輔助設施好像沒有那麼有效而且你們也沒有發現是什麼問題比如說是\n416022\t437187\t我們當然要了解一下,因為這個輔助設施就是說你重建之後你回到職場那你可能需要一些補助的工具,那這個部分你有需求我們都可以按照我們相關宣傳來申請所以是因為宣傳不夠力還是申請的過程很繁瑣或是因為補助的金額可能雇主還是沒有辦法接受\n438087\t455167\t其實報告委員因為這個勞工發生職災有時候是在他回到職場重建前他有一些必要的我們叫做器具補助那個就增加很多那個器具補助委員你可以看一下我們的\n458891\t480360\t對,12年喔,是608件那113年到現在而已喔第一季就205件所以其實這個是搭配的啦看你是需要的是那個器具補助還是這種補助設施這個影片裡面強調的是補助設施所以我想你會拍這個影片表示你注意到以前有很多人有這樣子的需求\n481300\t498326\t因為這個是法通過以後新的有些過去他可能不知道他知道有這個器具補助不知道這個輔助設施所以我們是增加這個部分鼓勵說如果你有需求你就來申請不過這部分我們再來加強\n500367\t528033\t讓大家如果真的有需要不要客氣請他們一定要來申請那我也稍微提醒你一下因為你這些影片拍得不錯但目前在職安署的網站都還沒有更新你的職安署的網站還停留在兩年前所以勞工朋友可能很難找到這些資訊因為我們今天也會討論您的解凍案所以在這邊也稍微提醒部長一下\n529147\t555998\t您在這個2018年的時候說一定要推動勞保年改但是最近呢又說三黨要坐下來談你也知道最近蔡總統跟柯主席已經吃了牛肉麵討論到這是一個一定要解決的事情但是呢你的解凍的報告裡面寫如果這些都是大家提出來很好的意見你們就把這四個意見列出來\n557128\t573668\t但是最後的結論居然是週延規劃推動期程以確保勞工之保險給付權益這件事情我覺得上禮拜已經很多人問過啦但畢竟已經過了6年了部長你是不是應該要有一點方向跟想法\n574978\t591772\t對,包委這一題的困難點就是說要怎麼凝聚共識包括跟勞資雙方跟各界或者三黨大家坐下來來討論看看這個改革的這個幅度、方向、項目等等這個都是凝聚共識那其實如果能夠\n592873\t606609\t共識能夠達成後面就會很快所以我們這邊才會說即使這個部分還要再相關的溝通跟收集相關的意見那有關於推動的期程我們會周延來規劃所以期程到現在\n608010\t630050\t報告委現在真的期程很難去講如果大家有共識以後是會很快如果還沒有的話當然這個期程我沒有辦法很明確說我當時可以來上但是我想這件事情我們是非常重視的也一直請同仁在做一些研議包括所以520以前不會有期程報告委可能520之前因為現在0520不到兩個月那這個\n635646\t650571\t可能比較難啦但是如果大家有共識也會很快最後只是提醒您一下這個2017年您提出的草案這個你也都知道了所以我們那是106那個是勞動部那時候我還沒有上任啦2017\n652231\t669452\t但是那個時候有草案嘛第10屆可以提出草案嘛它現在已經第11屆了嘛所以距離您宣誓一定要做改革至今似乎沒有提出任何草案這一點我們可能等一下討論這個結凍案的時候也要稍微把它列入考慮齁\n671955\t672135\t陳婉嫻委員\n","txt":"主席各位官員各位同事早安我們有請部長請許部長陳副委員好謝謝部長我們接續剛剛談到的議題\n看一下這個網站是每一個移工都會看的嘛但是我們現在已經113年了你的勞動權益網還停留在111年的版本我們這個我請業務單位要趕快更新改進謝謝委員提醒 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contract\n所以這跟你們...委員這物質這很差的說要立即要更新啦這個不能因為懷孕而去終止任何的勞動契約啦這個是禁止歧視啊我們現在這個抱歉謝謝委員他們業務單位沒有\n請各位今天回去稍微看一下我也很好奇111年、112年、113年這些剛入境的移工他們拿到的手冊是不是這個版本\n因為今天是討論職災、職安\n我們今天有講到113年有一個口號是營造業墜落打擊元年但110年你們的口號是營造業減災加強年請問110年到113年你們這個口號的轉變有什麼特別的因素嗎\n報告委員這不是口號就是因為主要是一些策略我們針對營造業的減災我們每年都會有不同的一些策略因為營造業現在是所有的大概職災發生率最高的所以我們在這幾年比如我們在減災的時候會發現說到底哪些工作型態發生職災會最多那發現那個最弱最弱其實是一直高居這個營造\n二、處理中華民國11年度中央政府總預算有關勞動部主管預算凍結案21案及討論二、處理中華民國11年度中央政府總預算有關勞動部主管預算凍結案21案及討論\n110年當時說營造業嘛營造業覺得是重大職災發生率最高的所以110年我們定義為職災加強年營造業喔但是你看111年雖然故宮的人數是下降的結果死亡的人數反而是上升的\n連製造業也是發生一樣的狀況所以是不是你們這個加強年的措施你們後來發現好像沒有什麼用所以113年又推出一個新的口號\n我還是要強調不是口號啦就是說這是一個目標我們要達成那當然像我們每年都會設定一個目標那當然像110年111年的這個這個職災人數是增加但是我們110去年我看了夜報有寫但112年其實只是回到110年的數據而已\n這個部分當然委員我們會滾動來檢討因為現在也是因為整個國內這個村井建造的那種樓地板面積都增加就可以知道說那整個建案多啦有時候缺工趕工都會讓這些職災的風險提高所以我們也會去檢討原因為什麼沒有達到目標我們要精進我們相關的策略我們很希望113年、114年可以看到它穩定的下降好\n這次呢去年我們通過職業職災保險法嘛所以我們推出了這些職災中心等等政策所以我上網把這個影片全部都看完其實拍得很好你們花了200萬拍了幾支影片跟勞工們宣傳職災中心有哪些服務這個影片是關於呢\n一個麵包工人他受傷所以這個職災中心的各管師他協助他除了復建以外有一個很重要的亮點就是建立重建機制可以建立重建機制讓他順利的回到他原本的工作所以這個各管師就協助他申請了一個輔助設施他復建完之後呢\n有一個機器可以幫助他把東西搬上搬下讓他不會再舊傷又重發啦所以這個片裡面他都強調說有這個建立重建機制的服務也把這個當成你們宣傳的重點結果咧我們來看一下\n這是上禮拜查到的數據112年我們通過植栽中心也開始服務了以後輔助設施補助只有通過了一件但這是你們的重點項目喔\n所以我們在看到這個數據的時候我們會想未來因為還要審各位的預算如果這個申請輔助設施好像沒有那麼有效而且你們也沒有發現是什麼問題比如說是\n我們當然要了解一下,因為這個輔助設施就是說你重建之後你回到職場那你可能需要一些補助的工具,那這個部分你有需求我們都可以按照我們相關宣傳來申請所以是因為宣傳不夠力還是申請的過程很繁瑣或是因為補助的金額可能雇主還是沒有辦法接受\n其實報告委員因為這個勞工發生職災有時候是在他回到職場重建前他有一些必要的我們叫做器具補助那個就增加很多那個器具補助委員你可以看一下我們的\n對,12年喔,是608件那113年到現在而已喔第一季就205件所以其實這個是搭配的啦看你是需要的是那個器具補助還是這種補助設施這個影片裡面強調的是補助設施所以我想你會拍這個影片表示你注意到以前有很多人有這樣子的需求\n因為這個是法通過以後新的有些過去他可能不知道他知道有這個器具補助不知道這個輔助設施所以我們是增加這個部分鼓勵說如果你有需求你就來申請不過這部分我們再來加強\n讓大家如果真的有需要不要客氣請他們一定要來申請那我也稍微提醒你一下因為你這些影片拍得不錯但目前在職安署的網站都還沒有更新你的職安署的網站還停留在兩年前所以勞工朋友可能很難找到這些資訊因為我們今天也會討論您的解凍案所以在這邊也稍微提醒部長一下\n您在這個2018年的時候說一定要推動勞保年改但是最近呢又說三黨要坐下來談你也知道最近蔡總統跟柯主席已經吃了牛肉麵討論到這是一個一定要解決的事情但是呢你的解凍的報告裡面寫如果這些都是大家提出來很好的意見你們就把這四個意見列出來\n但是最後的結論居然是週延規劃推動期程以確保勞工之保險給付權益這件事情我覺得上禮拜已經很多人問過啦但畢竟已經過了6年了部長你是不是應該要有一點方向跟想法\n對,包委這一題的困難點就是說要怎麼凝聚共識包括跟勞資雙方跟各界或者三黨大家坐下來來討論看看這個改革的這個幅度、方向、項目等等這個都是凝聚共識那其實如果能夠\n共識能夠達成後面就會很快所以我們這邊才會說即使這個部分還要再相關的溝通跟收集相關的意見那有關於推動的期程我們會周延來規劃所以期程到現在\n報告委現在真的期程很難去講如果大家有共識以後是會很快如果還沒有的話當然這個期程我沒有辦法很明確說我當時可以來上但是我想這件事情我們是非常重視的也一直請同仁在做一些研議包括所以520以前不會有期程報告委可能520之前因為現在0520不到兩個月那這個\n可能比較難啦但是如果大家有共識也會很快最後只是提醒您一下這個2017年您提出的草案這個你也都知道了所以我們那是106那個是勞動部那時候我還沒有上任啦2017\n但是那個時候有草案嘛第10屆可以提出草案嘛它現在已經第11屆了嘛所以距離您宣誓一定要做改革至今似乎沒有提出任何草案這一點我們可能等一下討論這個結凍案的時候也要稍微把它列入考慮齁\n陳婉嫻委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:14.406 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