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00:02:03,808\n至愛南行我從來沒有看過是這樣所以有時候溝通比你們武斷還更好所以本席為什麼要請教部長有沒有溝通如果既大家都知道嘛大家都知道預算跟法律案\n\n6\n00:02:05,168 --> 00:02:24,202\n我剛才看完以後他整個條例裡面他根本只是說明的部分他是以他們推算出來是要花這些錢2000多億這2000多億他沒有告訴你一次就編出來這本來就是就不是\n\n7\n00:02:25,373 --> 00:02:46,614\n不是預算案啊你們套了預算案來騙立法委員拜託我們裡面也有法官也有這個十幾屆檢察官一大堆啊你不要騙人啊所以我坦白跟你講最重要我們要把原因找出來\n\n8\n00:02:47,782 --> 00:03:12,507\n找出來的原因就是一條要花東的人到底要等多久這很重要的那因為你還沒有答覆以前我希望你想一想為什麼要提這個案來法務部的代表你們怎麼會告訴交通部說這個是法律案呢或者預算案呢來\n\n9\n00:03:15,205 --> 00:03:32,739\n是你們的意見嗎?跟委員報告我們沒有直接提供意見論斷這個是不是違憲與否的問題那書面報告主管機關有他們的立場那法制面的部分因為\n\n10\n00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:58,681\n參考大法官好事致你不要再談大法官剛剛部長已經講這些條例本來就是法律案你們給人家的意見說這個就說預算案預算案我們立法委員都了解你們編出來的東西我們不能增加預算欸會做立委不是像你寫的啦大家都索告喔\n\n11\n00:04:00,131 --> 00:04:21,783\n不是所以法務部代表因為剛才部長在講說綜合法務部給他們的意見這叫做預算案可是請你們回去看一看他只是把立法的總說明講的大概是這樣裡面的條文\n\n12\n00:04:22,463 --> 00:04:48,093\n沒有硬性要你們編2000多億啊你們也可以分10年編你們也可以分20年編沒有人講這個所以你們不要誤導啦不要誤導喔法務部因為我也知道你們有你們的看法但是我還是要呼籲我們部長溝通甚過於我也知道特別條例對特別地區確實會造成這種效應的問題\n\n13\n00:04:52,895 --> 00:05:15,730\n這個我們也知道可是你要針對這個要特別去說明你不能講說立法委員提出這個特別條例那為什麼博定為什麼要提這個條例你知不知道我可不可以跟委員回答一下那個我想傅崐萁委員對於花東一些花蓮的建設重視事實上我雖然這個案子沒跟他討論我也知道他的想法他希望快一點啦\n\n14\n00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:36,900\n所以這個8月份可能就出來但是他會覺得要更快更可以去確保為了其他的想法你們都有在做我看你們的報告你們都有在做可是速度太慢30年以來你們等一下又那個那個花東改什麼改我告訴你\n\n15\n00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,702\n我提出這個條例我認為不但不違憲他合情合理但是我同意\n\n16\n00:06:00,441 --> 00:06:15,455\n有時候會造成離島特別條例這種種但是你要說明清楚啊你要說明清楚你不說明清楚就是這樣對幹我要呼籲你千萬千萬不要因為\n\n17\n00:06:16,756 --> 00:06:30,635\n科總召給你們的錯誤進席到現在為止二月一號到現在我們在委員會通過任何東西沒有一樣科總召講不違憲的\n\n18\n00:06:31,957 --> 00:06:56,452\n那如果這樣繼續下去,所有的案子通通違憲,那你們就不要做啊!除了你們提出來要做的,那就不違憲。立法委員提出來的東西,通通違憲,不中。我講實在,真正的問題,就是你們耽擱太久嘛。花東之人真的忍受不了了嘛。人家才提這個案,提特別條例嘛。\n\n19\n00:06:56,792 --> 00:07:18,222\n你們如果答應人家的8年到現在一個出評你們就搞了8年有幾個8年保定我們說實在這個保分啊真的你有時候要聽聽人家的意見不要一開始就是跟我們磕腫招任何事情都是違憲那如果立法院要幹什麼\n\n20\n00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:42,951\n所以這點我特別要拜託部長請你們要修改修正方向不要動不動就違憲這點我特別要呼籲你們花東人不能再等所以特別條例是符合花東人之需求所以部長伯伯有在走所以這個部分真的我是良心的建議\n\n21\n00:07:44,231 --> 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法務部因為我也知道你們有你們的看法但是我還是要呼籲我們部長溝通甚過於我也知道特別條例對特別地區確實會造成這種效應的問題\n292895\t315730\t這個我們也知道可是你要針對這個要特別去說明你不能講說立法委員提出這個特別條例那為什麼博定為什麼要提這個條例你知不知道我可不可以跟委員回答一下那個我想傅崐萁委員對於花東一些花蓮的建設重視事實上我雖然這個案子沒跟他討論我也知道他的想法他希望快一點啦\n316870\t336900\t所以這個8月份可能就出來但是他會覺得要更快更可以去確保為了其他的想法你們都有在做我看你們的報告你們都有在做可是速度太慢30年以來你們等一下又那個那個花東改什麼改我告訴你\n337680\t339702\t我提出這個條例我認為不但不違憲他合情合理但是我同意\n360441\t375455\t有時候會造成離島特別條例這種種但是你要說明清楚啊你要說明清楚你不說明清楚就是這樣對幹我要呼籲你千萬千萬不要因為\n376756\t390635\t科總召給你們的錯誤進席到現在為止二月一號到現在我們在委員會通過任何東西沒有一樣科總召講不違憲的\n391957\t416452\t那如果這樣繼續下去,所有的案子通通違憲,那你們就不要做啊!除了你們提出來要做的,那就不違憲。立法委員提出來的東西,通通違憲,不中。我講實在,真正的問題,就是你們耽擱太久嘛。花東之人真的忍受不了了嘛。人家才提這個案,提特別條例嘛。\n416792\t438222\t你們如果答應人家的8年到現在一個出評你們就搞了8年有幾個8年保定我們說實在這個保分啊真的你有時候要聽聽人家的意見不要一開始就是跟我們磕腫招任何事情都是違憲那如果立法院要幹什麼\n439879\t462951\t所以這點我特別要拜託部長請你們要修改修正方向不要動不動就違憲這點我特別要呼籲你們花東人不能再等所以特別條例是符合花東人之需求所以部長伯伯有在走所以這個部分真的我是良心的建議\n464231\t484866\t雖然不住在那裏但是我還是呼籲你盡快不要用這種方式好不好我可不可以說明一下我想對花東的建設現在剛剛談到蘇花改已經做好了現在就出發案還有這個花東雙軌等等都要進行過去按照我們這一個中長城的計畫每一項都一個一個來做\n486387\t511165\t雖然當然審查時間長很多是環評的課題可是你如果不經過環評以後這個道路有問題沒有啦環評也沒有環評這麼久了啦可以不可以這個環評本來是有一定步驟這個我們都知道我告訴你問題就是你們兩個店一個自愛男性一個人有特別條例哪有自愛男性只有一個剛才我已經講過\n512426\t525115\t如果是離島特別條例這麼多,你們以後無法應付,你就坦白解釋嘛!好不好?對阿,你重點你們從來沒有寫阿!沒錯!我這樣講阿,別再變啦!別再變啦!人家提這個案,很明顯是法律案,好不好?不要再誤導是預算案,好不好?\n","txt":"主席請部長還有黃師長來法務部的代表好部長早我想請教一下本案提出花東特別條例提出來以後請問部長\n你有跟副委員跟三十幾個連署的人去充分溝通跟瞭解他的本質有沒有沒有來黃市長有沒有沒有好其實我本席比較在乎的就是在你們的報告為什麼要把黃副代表\n跟黃�師長請上台你們怎麼會立法權跟行政權跟大法官的解釋權把他搞在一起你們要去了解\n他們今天立法委員提出這個案為什麼會提出這個案這很重要喔部長你很會溝通的也不跟人家溝通啊你們就一開始就武斷的立法委員提案天經地義是立法委員的天職你們怎麼會報告案這個部分一是法務部的意見二是\n至愛南行我從來沒有看過是這樣所以有時候溝通比你們武斷還更好所以本席為什麼要請教部長有沒有溝通如果既大家都知道嘛大家都知道預算跟法律案\n我剛才看完以後他整個條例裡面他根本只是說明的部分他是以他們推算出來是要花這些錢2000多億這2000多億他沒有告訴你一次就編出來這本來就是就不是\n不是預算案啊你們套了預算案來騙立法委員拜託我們裡面也有法官也有這個十幾屆檢察官一大堆啊你不要騙人啊所以我坦白跟你講最重要我們要把原因找出來\n找出來的原因就是一條要花東的人到底要等多久這很重要的那因為你還沒有答覆以前我希望你想一想為什麼要提這個案來法務部的代表你們怎麼會告訴交通部說這個是法律案呢或者預算案呢來\n是你們的意見嗎?跟委員報告我們沒有直接提供意見論斷這個是不是違憲與否的問題那書面報告主管機關有他們的立場那法制面的部分因為\n參考大法官好事致你不要再談大法官剛剛部長已經講這些條例本來就是法律案你們給人家的意見說這個就說預算案預算案我們立法委員都了解你們編出來的東西我們不能增加預算欸 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法務部因為我也知道你們有你們的看法但是我還是要呼籲我們部長溝通甚過於我也知道特別條例對特別地區確實會造成這種效應的問題\n這個我們也知道可是你要針對這個要特別去說明你不能講說立法委員提出這個特別條例那為什麼博定為什麼要提這個條例你知不知道我可不可以跟委員回答一下那個我想傅崐萁委員對於花東一些花蓮的建設重視事實上我雖然這個案子沒跟他討論我也知道他的想法他希望快一點啦\n所以這個8月份可能就出來但是他會覺得要更快更可以去確保為了其他的想法你們都有在做我看你們的報告你們都有在做可是速度太慢30年以來你們等一下又那個那個花東改什麼改我告訴你\n我提出這個條例我認為不但不違憲他合情合理但是我同意\n有時候會造成離島特別條例這種種但是你要說明清楚啊你要說明清楚你不說明清楚就是這樣對幹我要呼籲你千萬千萬不要因為\n科總召給你們的錯誤進席到現在為止二月一號到現在我們在委員會通過任何東西沒有一樣科總召講不違憲的\n那如果這樣繼續下去,所有的案子通通違憲,那你們就不要做啊!除了你們提出來要做的,那就不違憲。立法委員提出來的東西,通通違憲,不中。我講實在,真正的問題,就是你們耽擱太久嘛。花東之人真的忍受不了了嘛。人家才提這個案,提特別條例嘛。\n你們如果答應人家的8年到現在一個出評你們就搞了8年有幾個8年保定我們說實在這個保分啊真的你有時候要聽聽人家的意見不要一開始就是跟我們磕腫招任何事情都是違憲那如果立法院要幹什麼\n所以這點我特別要拜託部長請你們要修改修正方向不要動不動就違憲這點我特別要呼籲你們花東人不能再等所以特別條例是符合花東人之需求所以部長伯伯有在走所以這個部分真的我是良心的建議\n雖然不住在那裏但是我還是呼籲你盡快不要用這種方式好不好我可不可以說明一下我想對花東的建設現在剛剛談到蘇花改已經做好了現在就出發案還有這個花東雙軌等等都要進行過去按照我們這一個中長城的計畫每一項都一個一個來做\n雖然當然審查時間長很多是環評的課題可是你如果不經過環評以後這個道路有問題沒有啦環評也沒有環評這麼久了啦可以不可以這個環評本來是有一定步驟這個我們都知道我告訴你問題就是你們兩個店一個自愛男性一個人有特別條例哪有自愛男性只有一個剛才我已經講過\n如果是離島特別條例這麼多,你們以後無法應付,你就坦白解釋嘛!好不好?對阿,你重點你們從來沒有寫阿!沒錯!我這樣講阿,別再變啦!別再變啦!人家提這個案,很明顯是法律案,好不好?不要再誤導是預算案,好不好?\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.289 --> 00:30.298\n主席請部長還有黃師長來法務部的代表好部長早我想請教一下本案提出花東特別條例提出來以後請問部長\n\n00:32.861 --> 00:59.404\n你有跟副委員跟三十幾個連署的人去充分溝通跟瞭解他的本質有沒有沒有來黃市長有沒有沒有好其實我本席比較在乎的就是在你們的報告為什麼要把黃副代表\n\n01:00.410 --> 01:13.638\n跟黃�師長請上台你們怎麼會立法權跟行政權跟大法官的解釋權把他搞在一起你們要去了解\n\n01:14.861 --> 01:40.770\n他們今天立法委員提出這個案為什麼會提出這個案這很重要喔部長你很會溝通的也不跟人家溝通啊你們就一開始就武斷的立法委員提案天經地義是立法委員的天職你們怎麼會報告案這個部分一是法務部的意見二是\n\n01:43.174 --> 02:03.808\n至愛南行我從來沒有看過是這樣所以有時候溝通比你們武斷還更好所以本席為什麼要請教部長有沒有溝通如果既大家都知道嘛大家都知道預算跟法律案\n\n02:05.168 --> 02:24.202\n我剛才看完以後他整個條例裡面他根本只是說明的部分他是以他們推算出來是要花這些錢2000多億這2000多億他沒有告訴你一次就編出來這本來就是就不是\n\n02:25.373 --> 02:46.614\n不是預算案啊你們套了預算案來騙立法委員拜託我們裡面也有法官也有這個十幾屆檢察官一大堆啊你不要騙人啊所以我坦白跟你講最重要我們要把原因找出來\n\n02:47.782 --> 03:12.507\n找出來的原因就是一條要花東的人到底要等多久這很重要的那因為你還沒有答覆以前我希望你想一想為什麼要提這個案來法務部的代表你們怎麼會告訴交通部說這個是法律案呢或者預算案呢來\n\n03:15.205 --> 03:32.739\n是你們的意見嗎?跟委員報告我們沒有直接提供意見論斷這個是不是違憲與否的問題那書面報告主管機關有他們的立場那法制面的部分因為\n\n03:33.980 --> 03:58.681\n參考大法官好事致你不要再談大法官剛剛部長已經講這些條例本來就是法律案你們給人家的意見說這個就說預算案預算案我們立法委員都了解你們編出來的東西我們不能增加預算欸會做立委不是像你寫的啦大家都索告喔\n\n04:00.131 --> 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