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00:02:00,052\n不過本席在看到你今天所送來的你的預算解凍案的報告當中你還是跟過去一樣啊你的答案還是一樣在研擬修法你己各藉意見部長我們現在進度到底到哪裡\n\n6\n00:02:02,148 --> 00:02:25,715\n部長,現在進度到哪裡?就持續在收集意見你還跟你的書面資料一樣啊,你每一次都講一樣的啊你時間點勒,你的KPI制定在哪裡?你的時間表跟你的具體進展是怎麼樣?沒有這樣負債一直增加,然後每一次都告訴我們這個答案啊政府不會倒,政府如果沒倒,勞動部不會倒,我會怕咧?\n\n7\n00:02:28,783 --> 00:02:35,976\n我持續再汲取社會意見那現在怎麼辦?你的進度告訴我進度好不好?\n\n8\n00:02:37,524 --> 00:03:01,763\n報告委員因為就是這個勞保年改因為牽涉到千萬的勞工60萬的投保這個理由都很清楚已經這麼多年了8年了到底有沒有進度請告訴我們這也是你告訴我們的我按年金改革啊8年了你進度告訴我進度方面我們有共識的部分就是撥補這一塊我們有做到撥補我請問現在現在要撥補給你多少\n\n9\n00:03:06,584 --> 00:03:09,727\n新年是一千三嘛你覺得這樣夠不夠這個對財務的這個穩定是有幫助的\n\n10\n00:03:15,868 --> 00:03:38,810\n部長,你身為我們勞動部的部長,你要站在勞工這邊啦我們就是站在勞工這邊,要撿出撥補啊這撥補也好,讓勞工安心嘛這個是治標,不會治本所以你的根本是你答應我們的要年金改革所以本市還是告訴你請你把你的時間表具體的進展\n\n11\n00:03:40,572 --> 00:03:45,615\n書面資料給本席那我最後要問你一句話新政府會進行改革嗎?請教另外520快到了啊放大意給你啊新政府會不會進行改革?會不會持續改革?我不能代表新政府來回答啊你現在沒有信心你繼續做保證是嗎?你為什麼這樣子推責任不負責任你現在是部長喔我現在還是\n\n12\n00:04:10,550 --> 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