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00:01:02,107\n實用給大家都非常的勇於有高達1400多萬的這個營業額這個很顯然是已經有恢復了疫情前的水準也顯示說文化部在這個相關事宜的辦理方面也是相當的積極這個部分呢也要給你們一個肯定\n\n5\n00:01:15,038 --> 00:01:43,568\n但是本席發現說112年度的文化禮金的使用期限其實是到6月30日到今年的6月30日但是目前領取的雖然有達到八成六但使用率只有八成那後續只剩下就是在112年度的文化禮金後續只剩下三個月的使用期限那針對這個部分部長我們文化部有沒有什麼加強宣傳的措施例如你們是不是在APP裡面來做推播來做提醒這個部分你們有什麼規劃\n\n6\n00:01:45,399 --> 00:02:13,722\n是,跟委員報告確實我們這個很期待所有的我們的年輕的朋友都能夠把它用完那陳如你說的確實是到今年的6月底所以我想我們會持續來宣導事實上因為113年度的新的文化成人禮金的使用事實上也大幅度的帶動了去年文化禮金它事實上應該用到只剩一點零頭的這個把它合併使用完我想這個部分我們是有信心來達成\n\n7\n00:02:14,383 --> 00:02:39,730\n因為近來我們的年輕朋友們有領的這樣文化禮金應該有做規劃但是沒有把它使用完是很可惜的那我們也是希望藉由文化禮金的這個鼓勵讓我們的年輕的朋友們多多去接觸我們這些相關的藝文的活動那所以這個部分呢也希望說這個加強宣傳的部分呢也許它是忘記了還是說沒有想到這個期限那也可以再提醒一下\n\n8\n00:02:40,330 --> 00:02:41,652\n文資保存及社區營造的場域及博物館及地方文化館這兩項一直都是最低的。\n\n9\n00:02:58,212 --> 00:03:00,633\n二十四年度的這個文化禮經的推廣方案裡面可以把這個部分再加強\n\n10\n00:03:16,838 --> 00:03:32,693\n來演繹怎麼樣鼓勵我們的孩子們除了說你去做這個書籍呀去做這些相關的這些表演的消費之外呢剛才提到的這些比較屬於說地方的文物的地方的文化的這個部分呢能夠鼓勵我們的年輕朋友們多去參與喔\n\n11\n00:03:34,315 --> 00:03:38,898\n是這個我想我們應該來加強那在這個部分還要再來請教一下部長文化部常態化我們剛剛提到這個16到22歲的文化禮金現在既然已經被廣泛的使用那前一陣子文化部針對就是有不當使用的狀況包括持有者出售、收購或者是店家違規這個狀態文化部也表示說不會寬戴那這部分本期也支持說我們一定要有一個強硬的態度對我們文化禮金正確使用來做一個加強的手段\n\n12\n00:04:03,716 --> 00:04:32,454\n文化部當初推廣文化幣的這個初衷是希望鼓勵我們年輕的朋友16到22歲的孩子們能夠培養他們藝文消費的習慣但是當這些具有這些資格來領取的青少年朋友們他們領取了之後卻選擇用出售的這樣的方式放棄自己的權益真的是非常可惜讓人家覺得非常遺憾那本席辦公室昨天還上網看了一下雖然說這個出售或是收購的這個貼文是有大幅減少但是還是有\n\n13\n00:04:33,274 --> 00:04:50,765\n其實還是有那針對這樣違規使用的這個狀態呢文化部這邊給本席的資料是說目前有鎖定有605組的個人帳戶那還有店家的部分有29家其中還有一案是涉及這個詐欺罪已經有移送這個檢調單位來辦理\n\n14\n00:04:53,997 --> 00:05:02,139\n本席這邊想了解一下這個605組的個人贊護你們了解起來狀況是什麼樣狀況另外這個涉及詐欺的這個違規的樣態是什麼這個可能這個犯罪的這個這個細節我不是很清楚啦但是我們事實上從後台是很嚴密的在監控只要有異常的狀況我會先於鎖定並且要求他說明我會進行初步的調查\n\n15\n00:05:22,764 --> 00:05:42,856\n也跟委員報告事實上我們一直不斷的精進我們後台的這個監理的措施所以我們幾乎可以講現在不管用動態QRcode或者是這個APP它要更換這個平台跟裝置我們事實上從後台都有非常嚴格的這個申請的機制\n\n16\n00:05:43,576 --> 00:05:52,348\n這已經大幅度的降低了事實上任何收購或者是不當轉移的可能性這個其實坦白講已經大幅的降低\n\n17\n00:05:53,086 --> 00:06:18,162\n因為我們鼓勵我們的年輕朋友們去領取文化禮金那領的時候他如何使用的這一塊我們也應該要有一個來做監控剛剛部長您講的那本席是非常肯定說文化禮金對於我們年輕朋友們培養藝文消費這個是很有正向的幫助那其實網路上也有很多年輕的朋友們他們有很正向的回饋覺得說有這樣子的禮金來讓他們有\n\n18\n00:06:21,744 --> 00:06:26,586\n二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．等。\n\n19\n00:06:46,752 --> 00:07:08,478\n矣範的行為就是說他今年16歲他今年領17歲他一個領18歲他一個領那如果說他在今年出售明年出售一直有這樣子矣範的行為部長您認為我們有沒有必要做一些加嚴的措施是不是在他矣範的被我們發現之後我們是要降低他的額度呢還是會直接取消他下一個年度領取的這個資格\n\n20\n00:07:09,985 --> 00:07:30,654\n謝謝委員的關心我想針對這個部分從兩個面向第一個是我們應該近期可能讓這樣的事情不要發生第二個就是說如果真的是還有這樣的事情發生是不是針對這些年輕學子要採取到什麼樣的懲治的手段我想這個部分我也坦白講我覺得需要經過一個研議的過程因為畢竟是很年輕的朋友嘛\n\n21\n00:07:31,334 --> 00:07:34,239\n二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部主管．並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部主管»:\n\n22\n00:07:46,377 --> 00:07:47,517\n一年兩年三年如果他是壘犯之後我們是不是有\n\n23\n00:08:02,403 --> 00:08:04,765\n二、審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．等\n\n24\n00:08:21,522 --> 00:08:35,287\n是我想我們願意來研議不過我們目前的系統的規劃我們基本上會把這樣子的可能性降到幾乎是最低的啦其實基本上不大可能有所謂的公開的甚至在網路上的收購這個其實基本上我們會把它杜絕\n\n25\n00:08:36,121 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code或者是這個APP它要更換這個平台跟裝置我們事實上從後台都有非常嚴格的這個申請的機制\n343576\t352348\t這已經大幅度的降低了事實上任何收購或者是不當轉移的可能性這個其實坦白講已經大幅的降低\n353086\t378162\t因為我們鼓勵我們的年輕朋友們去領取文化禮金那領的時候他如何使用的這一塊我們也應該要有一個來做監控剛剛部長您講的那本席是非常肯定說文化禮金對於我們年輕朋友們培養藝文消費這個是很有正向的幫助那其實網路上也有很多年輕的朋友們他們有很正向的回饋覺得說有這樣子的禮金來讓他們有\n381744\t386586\t二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．等。\n406752\t428478\t矣範的行為就是說他今年16歲他今年領17歲他一個領18歲他一個領那如果說他在今年出售明年出售一直有這樣子矣範的行為部長您認為我們有沒有必要做一些加嚴的措施是不是在他矣範的被我們發現之後我們是要降低他的額度呢還是會直接取消他下一個年度領取的這個資格\n429985\t450654\t謝謝委員的關心我想針對這個部分從兩個面向第一個是我們應該近期可能讓這樣的事情不要發生第二個就是說如果真的是還有這樣的事情發生是不是針對這些年輕學子要採取到什麼樣的懲治的手段我想這個部分我也坦白講我覺得需要經過一個研議的過程因為畢竟是很年輕的朋友嘛\n451334\t454239\t二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部主管．並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部主管 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這個我想我們應該來加強那在這個部分還要再來請教一下部長文化部常態化我們剛剛提到這個16到22歲的文化禮金現在既然已經被廣泛的使用那前一陣子文化部針對就是有不當使用的狀況包括持有者出售、收購或者是店家違規這個狀態文化部也表示說不會寬戴那這部分本期也支持說我們一定要有一個強硬的態度對我們文化禮金正確使用來做一個加強的手段\n文化部當初推廣文化幣的這個初衷是希望鼓勵我們年輕的朋友16到22歲的孩子們能夠培養他們藝文消費的習慣但是當這些具有這些資格來領取的青少年朋友們他們領取了之後卻選擇用出售的這樣的方式放棄自己的權益真的是非常可惜讓人家覺得非常遺憾那本席辦公室昨天還上網看了一下雖然說這個出售或是收購的這個貼文是有大幅減少但是還是有\n其實還是有那針對這樣違規使用的這個狀態呢文化部這邊給本席的資料是說目前有鎖定有605組的個人帳戶那還有店家的部分有29家其中還有一案是涉及這個詐欺罪已經有移送這個檢調單位來辦理\n本席這邊想了解一下這個605組的個人贊護你們了解起來狀況是什麼樣狀況另外這個涉及詐欺的這個違規的樣態是什麼這個可能這個犯罪的這個這個細節我不是很清楚啦但是我們事實上從後台是很嚴密的在監控只要有異常的狀況我會先於鎖定並且要求他說明我會進行初步的調查\n也跟委員報告事實上我們一直不斷的精進我們後台的這個監理的措施所以我們幾乎可以講現在不管用動態QR code或者是這個APP它要更換這個平台跟裝置我們事實上從後台都有非常嚴格的這個申請的機制\n這已經大幅度的降低了事實上任何收購或者是不當轉移的可能性這個其實坦白講已經大幅的降低\n因為我們鼓勵我們的年輕朋友們去領取文化禮金那領的時候他如何使用的這一塊我們也應該要有一個來做監控剛剛部長您講的那本席是非常肯定說文化禮金對於我們年輕朋友們培養藝文消費這個是很有正向的幫助那其實網路上也有很多年輕的朋友們他們有很正向的回饋覺得說有這樣子的禮金來讓他們有\n二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．等。\n矣範的行為就是說他今年16歲他今年領17歲他一個領18歲他一個領那如果說他在今年出售明年出售一直有這樣子矣範的行為部長您認為我們有沒有必要做一些加嚴的措施是不是在他矣範的被我們發現之後我們是要降低他的額度呢還是會直接取消他下一個年度領取的這個資格\n謝謝委員的關心我想針對這個部分從兩個面向第一個是我們應該近期可能讓這樣的事情不要發生第二個就是說如果真的是還有這樣的事情發生是不是針對這些年輕學子要採取到什麼樣的懲治的手段我想這個部分我也坦白講我覺得需要經過一個研議的過程因為畢竟是很年輕的朋友嘛\n二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部主管．並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部主管 »:\n一年兩年三年如果他是壘犯之後我們是不是有\n二、審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．並備質詢。二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部部長史哲列席報告業務．等\n是我想我們願意來研議不過我們目前的系統的規劃我們基本上會把這樣子的可能性降到幾乎是最低的啦其實基本上不大可能有所謂的公開的甚至在網路上的收購這個其實基本上我們會把它杜絕\n二十號在這些年這幾年好各位委員們對文化幣文化禮金這個期待都非常大大家都非常的關心啊我們也希望說藉由文化禮金的這個鼓勵讓我們的孩子們好多多的去接觸相關的義務活動認識我們地方的文化那如果說這個\n二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算有關文化部主管及文化部主管：解凍案8案。\n在這個使用的上我們當然是希望他是正向的使用正確的使用他但針對違規的行為本席還是希望說文化部這邊不要姑息我們還是要有一個比較強力的一個監督的機制而且這個力道上應該就是說讓孩子們理解到說我領取這樣的文化已經是針對你個人是你個人要使用即便你不想用你放棄他也不應該用轉售這樣的行為來踐踏了這樣子的美意所以這個部分也請\n二、處理或審查113年度中央政府總預算：解凍案8案。\n也說電子簽章法中的數位簽章就類似公證過的這個硬件證明就由政府認可的第三方憑證單位來核發跟個人簽簽具有同樣的效果那數法部長也表示說數位簽章也可以應用在黃牛票的紡紙上尤其是那種透過大量的收集個人身份證資料利用成是一次購買幾百張票的這種黃牛那\n部長您覺得這個訴發部他們這樣的說法有沒有跟我們文化部這邊來研議說我們如何來配合就是說這樣子的電子簽章用在黃牛票的這個防堵上部長您的看法呢是\n目前正式的研商還沒有開始但是唐鳳部長確實是有親自跟我講過說電子簽章法如果通過之後希望我們能夠進一步也輔導售票的平台能夠應用電子簽章來進一步落實實名制確實是有口頭跟我提過這件事情所以你們還沒有很正式的來討論還沒有因為電子簽章法現在目前正在大院審查但是我想這是未來的一個趨勢沒有錯\n陳秀寳委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.089 --> 00:07.474\n文化部長史哲列席報告\n\n00:12.128 --> 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