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00:01:46,441\n那我想問一下就是您本身有文化生活嗎?\n\n6\n00:01:46,441 --> 00:01:46,861\n你最近有去什麼藝文活動或藝文場館嗎?\n\n7\n00:01:46,861 --> 00:01:47,741\n去幾個高雄、美術館、台南、南美館、南美二館還有赤嬌還有二手書籍我都去逛\n\n8\n00:02:06,125 --> 00:02:20,243\n聽起來人事長您個人的文化生活會是視覺藝術有閒您剛提了高美館像我們江賢二老師的大展才在高美館創下紀錄高美館南美館然後獨立書店等等您個人有\n\n9\n00:02:21,044 --> 00:02:46,505\n文化生活非常好我們也希望我們公務同仁都能夠有文化生活當然我今天就較於您我先從文化生活來切入我非常開心您本身是有文化生活的那其實文化生活跟我剛剛說的心理健康有很大的關聯文化是最好的療癒那像思瑤我本人在立法院每天有很多政治的負能量我自己的文化生活是什麼\n\n10\n00:02:47,225 --> 00:03:12,327\n我光3月啊我跟大家分享一下我到了歷史博物館歷史博物館是台灣就是遷台以後第一個成立的公立博物館今年已經快已經一甲子了所以是來到台灣一甲子第一次的全面修復然後再出發我去參加了他的大展而且是一個時尚跨界的走秀非常好\n\n11\n00:03:13,248 --> 00:03:39,233\n那也提醒大家可以去給我們的國家博物館多多支持石博館就是剛重新開幕推薦大家可以去這是我3月8號去的我3月11號我到台博館剛剛是石博館我又去台博館因為我在做很多建築藝術的紀錄片那天是一個首映會我也推薦大家可以到台博館走一走這是3月11號再來下一頁\n\n12\n00:03:42,643 --> 00:04:10,108\n3月19號我回到我的選區北投現在大學有一個USR的計劃就是大學也要有社會責任那把大學生帶到台灣的社區現場以我參加的這個共主節就是我媒合了實踐大學建築系的學生進到北投的中興新村這是一個非常大規模在修復的眷村所以走進文化資產的現場\n\n13\n00:04:12,188 --> 00:04:32,991\n然後透過教育然後一起做一個共主節他有很多的多元的意義但這也告訴我們培育國家的文化人才文資人才每天都要做而我自己作為立法委員我一直在做北投共主節我催生了就是第三年好再來下一個\n\n14\n00:04:34,452 --> 00:05:03,661\n那就在上週五我到北美館台灣一個非常好的大展台灣建築1949到1983一個系統性的去回顧台灣建築的發展脈絡這是一個非常棒的展覽我也要推薦給大家我分享了一個光三月我就去了四檔的大展我是一個立法委員我現在也在繼續深造就讀文化類的博士\n\n15\n00:05:05,238 --> 00:05:28,309\n我個人告訴自己我要有文化生活討厭我的心靈我要有文化思維可以協助我導入政策幫助國家更有文化高視野的文化相關的政策能夠推進而且要跟國際接軌這是我個人我也是廣義的公務體系的一份子所以我要來分享的是\n\n16\n00:05:29,690 --> 00:05:35,476\n我請請教人事長來下頁文化基本法來回到文化基本法\n\n17\n00:05:37,415 --> 00:06:03,140\n20192019年6月5號是我剛擔任立委非常有成就感的一個立法因為這是文化的基本大法文化基本法裡頭對於部部都是文化部做了一個非常清楚的入法各部會都要來做文化資產的保存活化傳承維護及宣揚各部會都要有寬裂文化預算要有\n\n18\n00:06:04,241 --> 00:06:22,541\n國內外人才的參與文化工作這是方方面面要做的所以文化政策要落實在各部會文化不再是outsider這是文化的憲法所以依據文化基本法我們成立了內閣的文化匯報下一頁\n\n19\n00:06:25,575 --> 00:06:49,778\n人事長您也是文化會報的參與者有16個部會當中文化會報人事總處最近的一次是陳靜元院長親自召集的會議是2023年10月11號您也去出席了那我可能請教人事總處參與了文化會報那您扮演的角色是什麼\n\n20\n00:06:51,578 --> 00:07:12,284\n我覺得文化的東西很重要就是如何讓它生活化的問題我們希望我們的生活跟文化是結合在一起那在人事總處的一個立場我們事實上最近光總處內部我們就安排到很多的博物館去參觀尤其還有一件事情\n\n21\n00:07:14,324 --> 00:07:31,026\n這幾年我們剛好在推行政法人是所以我們希望好多新的行政法人都是文化管所對那事實上文化管所他走行政法人他在用人在整個營運因為要更有彈性很多場域他要有專業的策展人嘛嗯\n\n22\n00:07:31,306 --> 00:07:55,092\n那你公務機關你如何去找策展人事實上是有困難所以我們要呼喚他可以讓整個文化的管所更加的活躍我非常的開心聽到我們人事長您還更深入的去談到對於行政法人很多是文化管所要為什麼文化管所要用行政法人的方式就是讓他的用人彈性可以引進民間的文化專業人才\n\n23\n00:07:56,912 --> 00:08:18,798\n一般的公務人員的培育體系上比較欠缺您抓到一個很重要的重點我非常的感謝今天就教於您就是人事總處之所以成為行政院文化匯報的keyperson之一就是要從前端的國家人才的培育要candomore第二個我們平常業務會進行很多的訓練\n\n24\n00:08:20,518 --> 00:08:40,932\n我們的相關訓練Wecandomore第三個就是我剛剛跟您分享的最起碼我們要能夠提供給大家在福利面創造一個文化生活的可能性所以它會落在三個面向文化人才的培育、文化思維的建立以及文化生活的創造人事總處真的candomore下一頁\n\n25\n00:08:44,995 --> 00:08:53,861\n您知道我們現在有內閣一個新的好政策深受年輕世代歡迎這也是吳思瑤催生的2022年我質詢了蘇貞昌院長我希望能夠催生文化禮金現在已經上路而且擴大\n\n26\n00:09:02,267 --> 00:09:29,744\n16至22歲的年輕人可以有每年1200點的文化幣然後鼓勵年輕人去做藝文的消費而且可以振興台灣的藝文產業的發展其實啦年輕時代現在有文化幣這是一個新的境界我也催生我非常感動可以上路事實上我們公務體系早就有文化幣了就是我們每年3000的文康活動費\n\n27\n00:09:31,566 --> 00:09:33,070\n要不然我們中央各機關、學校、員工、文康活動實施要點這你懂的嘛對不對?人事總署管欸\n\n28\n00:09:38,672 --> 00:10:06,061\n文康活動費是重康樂輕益文我們兩部分就是益文活動可以去做益文欣賞競賽康樂活動就可以辦社團體能競賽慶生聯誼服務休閒等等每年3000這比剛剛那個文化幣啊1200塊一年而且只有16到22歲我們進入公路體系的夥伴每年就有3000可是都在康樂就空秀下一頁\n\n29\n00:10:07,847 --> 00:10:16,165\n各部會的文刊活動是您這裡來訂定然後我不知道你們有沒有追蹤我就以人事總處自己的文刊活動來看\n\n30\n00:10:17,512 --> 00:10:39,111\n近10年都是在辦康樂活動作為生日禮金慶生會年終獎金年終餐會年終禮品聯誼員工旅遊都很好但是我們這個康樂的項目人事總處的文康活動項目不要忘了是有藝文欣賞那一項啊\n\n31\n00:10:40,032 --> 00:11:05,183\n所以說我剛剛跟您分享了您自己有文化生活這可能是你的創意就你自己有這個文化調養要不然我們要給所有的公務同仁藝文類可不可以鼓勵更多我相信大家會支持讓大家就像文化幣年輕人拿到文化幣他會去買書他會去看表演藝術等等這個總可以做到吧\n\n32\n00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:26,097\n不只人事總處先做也包括各部會一起來做可以嗎我們事實上很多藝文活動我們都是混搭在整個環境交引沒有混搭藝文活動就是被犧牲沒有混搭不啦不啦都有隔壁內的啦都有隔壁內的可以做更多嗎沒問題我想這個沒有問題我後續再跟您討論主席我最後30秒來下面\n\n33\n00:11:34,229 --> 00:11:52,337\n我們需要更多的文化人才我很快速的快轉提醒您好下一頁就是在高考的文化行政組就是死亡之組難考缺又少所以他的錄取人數跟錄取率都是最低的下一頁\n\n34\n00:11:53,357 --> 00:12:14,180\n普考也是一樣文化行政缺少又難考所以這個提供給您因為各部會在成立很多相關的文化管所當然行政法人給了一個很大的人事彈性但是現在我沒有時間秀出後面的PVT我們有非常多的文化管所\n\n35\n00:12:14,941 --> 00:12:23,199\n包括就在新北市要成立一個最大的叫兒童未來館160億的預算國家沒有這種文化人才\n\n36\n00:12:24,090 --> 00:12:51,020\n包括各部會都要有文化思維的文化人才現在國營企業開始招考自己的文化人才非常好台電中油台水在做我就點到這裡前端的考選的部分對於文化類的人才的培育要更多好嗎我後面還有訓練面沒有時間講就這個部分您帶回去我後續還有時間就教於您是不是可以讓我們在文化人才的培育多一點空間\n\n37\n00:12:52,305 --> 00:13:08,112\n我這裡事實上要補充一下,現在除了大概委員秀出來這個畫面以外,現在很多文化類的管手他用的當然不是教育人員,在這裡看不到啦,就是說教育人員進到那些場域的非常多\n\n38\n00:13:08,592 --> 00:13:22,156\n但是畢竟在訓練上還是不同啦沒關係這個議題您帶回去我後續會持續的跟您討論我希望能夠把文化面向的思維多帶到跟人事總處未來的政策討論上謝謝主席多給我時間抱歉耽擱了謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5321\t34003\t謝謝主席 有請人事長那也請我們公務人力發展學院陳院長一起好 人事長跟院長請人事總處的夥伴大家辛苦大家早安那我想先問一下那個人事長我上一次質詢您的時候有拋出希望能夠在我們的公務人員裡頭新增一個價別就是新禮價那你們回去有開始進行研議嗎\n36432\t56831\t進度因為現在公務人員請假規則全序部現在有正在研擬修正草案所以我們這個薪禮價的問題我們會並同那個請假規則通盤來做一個規劃我這裡跟委員報告啦基本上我很支持的我覺得委員講的那個很重要對\n60775\t77224\t那所以就我會持續來watch持續來Follow那希望你們可以跟程序部可以強化也表達我們人事總處認為我們要共同促進我們公務同仁的心理健康那一個新設價別就彰顯了我們一個國家政策重要的方向\n77944\t100879\t那今天我要就教於您部部都是文化部人人都是文化人人事總處can do more那我們可以做什麼呢同樣一個主題我上週也對考試院也提出來了因為畢竟在國家的公務體系的人力規劃禁用考核待遇福利等等其實包括人事總處考試院都相關\n103240\t106441\t那我想問一下就是您本身有文化生活嗎?\n106441\t106861\t你最近有去什麼藝文活動或藝文場館嗎?\n106861\t107741\t去幾個 高雄、美術館、台南、南美館、南美二館 還有赤嬌 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more下一頁\n524995\t533861\t您知道我們現在有內閣一個新的好政策深受年輕世代歡迎這也是吳思瑤催生的2022年我質詢了蘇貞昌院長我希望能夠催生文化禮金現在已經上路而且擴大\n542267\t569744\t16至22歲的年輕人可以有每年1200點的文化幣然後鼓勵年輕人去做藝文的消費而且可以振興台灣的藝文產業的發展其實啦年輕時代現在有文化幣這是一個新的境界我也催生我非常感動可以上路事實上我們公務體系早就有文化幣了就是我們每年3000的文康活動費\n571566\t573070\t要不然我們中央各機關、學校、員工、文康活動實施要點這你懂的嘛對不對?人事總署管欸\n578672\t606061\t文康活動費是重康樂輕益文我們兩部分就是益文活動可以去做益文欣賞競賽康樂活動就可以辦社團體能競賽慶生聯誼服務休閒等等每年3000這比剛剛那個文化幣啊1200塊一年而且只有16到22歲我們進入公路體系的夥伴每年就有3000可是都在康樂就空秀下一頁\n607847\t616165\t各部會的文刊活動是您這裡來訂定然後我不知道你們有沒有追蹤我就以人事總處自己的文刊活動來看\n617512\t639111\t近10年都是在辦康樂活動作為生日禮金慶生會年終獎金年終餐會年終禮品聯誼員工旅遊都很好但是我們這個康樂的項目人事總處的文康活動項目不要忘了是有藝文欣賞那一項啊\n640032\t665183\t所以說我剛剛跟您分享了您自己有文化生活這可能是你的創意就你自己有這個文化調養要不然我們要給所有的公務同仁藝文類可不可以鼓勵更多我相信大家會支持讓大家就像文化幣年輕人拿到文化幣他會去買書他會去看表演藝術等等這個總可以做到吧\n666550\t686097\t不只人事總處先做也包括各部會一起來做可以嗎我們事實上很多藝文活動我們都是混搭在整個環境交引沒有混搭藝文活動就是被犧牲沒有混搭 不啦不啦都有隔壁內的啦都有隔壁內的 可以做更多嗎沒問題我想這個沒有問題我後續再跟您討論主席我最後30秒來下面\n694229\t712337\t我們需要更多的文化人才我很快速的快轉提醒您好下一頁就是在高考的文化行政組就是死亡之組難考缺又少所以他的錄取人數跟錄取率都是最低的下一頁\n713357\t734180\t普考也是一樣文化行政缺少又難考所以這個提供給您因為各部會在成立很多相關的文化管所當然行政法人給了一個很大的人事彈性但是現在我沒有時間秀出後面的PVT我們有非常多的文化管所\n734941\t743199\t包括就在新北市要成立一個最大的叫兒童未來館160億的預算國家沒有這種文化人才\n744090\t771020\t包括各部會都要有文化思維的文化人才現在國營企業開始招考自己的文化人才非常好台電中油台水在做我就點到這裡前端的考選的部分對於文化類的人才的培育要更多好嗎我後面還有訓練面沒有時間講就這個部分您帶回去我後續還有時間就教於您是不是可以讓我們在文化人才的培育多一點空間\n772305\t788112\t我這裡事實上要補充一下,現在除了大概委員秀出來這個畫面以外,現在很多文化類的管手他用的當然不是教育人員,在這裡看不到啦,就是說教育人員進到那些場域的非常多\n788592\t802156\t但是畢竟在訓練上還是不同啦沒關係這個議題您帶回去我後續會持續的跟您討論我希望能夠把文化面向的思維多帶到跟人事總處未來的政策討論上謝謝主席多給我時間抱歉耽擱了謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席 有請人事長那也請我們公務人力發展學院陳院長一起好 人事長跟院長請人事總處的夥伴大家辛苦大家早安那我想先問一下那個人事長我上一次質詢您的時候有拋出希望能夠在我們的公務人員裡頭新增一個價別就是新禮價那你們回去有開始進行研議嗎\n進度因為現在公務人員請假規則全序部現在有正在研擬修正草案所以我們這個薪禮價的問題我們會並同那個請假規則通盤來做一個規劃我這裡跟委員報告啦基本上我很支持的我覺得委員講的那個很重要對\n那所以就我會持續來watch持續來Follow那希望你們可以跟程序部可以強化也表達我們人事總處認為我們要共同促進我們公務同仁的心理健康那一個新設價別就彰顯了我們一個國家政策重要的方向\n那今天我要就教於您部部都是文化部人人都是文化人人事總處can do more那我們可以做什麼呢同樣一個主題我上週也對考試院也提出來了因為畢竟在國家的公務體系的人力規劃禁用考核待遇福利等等其實包括人事總處考試院都相關\n那我想問一下就是您本身有文化生活嗎?\n你最近有去什麼藝文活動或藝文場館嗎?\n去幾個 高雄、美術館、台南、南美館、南美二館 還有赤嬌 還有二手書籍我都去逛\n聽起來人事長您個人的文化生活會是視覺藝術有閒您剛提了高美館像我們江賢二老師的大展才在高美館創下紀錄高美館南美館然後獨立書店等等您個人有\n文化生活非常好我們也希望我們公務同仁都能夠有文化生活當然我今天就較於您我先從文化生活來切入我非常開心您本身是有文化生活的那其實文化生活跟我剛剛說的心理健康有很大的關聯文化是最好的療癒那像思瑤我本人在立法院每天有很多政治的負能量我自己的文化生活是什麼\n我光3月啊我跟大家分享一下我到了歷史博物館歷史博物館是台灣就是遷台以後第一個成立的公立博物館今年已經快已經一甲子了所以是來到台灣一甲子第一次的全面修復然後再出發我去參加了他的大展而且是一個時尚跨界的走秀非常好\n那也提醒大家可以去給我們的國家博物館多多支持石博館就是剛重新開幕推薦大家可以去這是我3月8號去的我3月11號我到台博館剛剛是石博館我又去台博館因為我在做很多建築藝術的紀錄片那天是一個首映會我也推薦大家可以到台博館走一走這是3月11號再來下一頁\n3月19號我回到我的選區北投現在大學有一個USR的計劃就是大學也要有社會責任那把大學生帶到台灣的社區現場以我參加的這個共主節就是我媒合了實踐大學建築系的學生進到北投的中興新村這是一個非常大規模在修復的眷村所以走進文化資產的現場\n然後透過教育然後一起做一個共主節他有很多的多元的意義但這也告訴我們培育國家的文化人才文資人才每天都要做而我自己作為立法委員我一直在做北投共主節我催生了就是第三年好再來下一個\n那就在上週五我到北美館台灣一個非常好的大展台灣建築1949到1983一個系統性的去回顧台灣建築的發展脈絡這是一個非常棒的展覽我也要推薦給大家我分享了一個光三月我就去了四檔的大展我是一個立法委員我現在也在繼續深造就讀文化類的博士\n我個人告訴自己我要有文化生活討厭我的心靈我要有文化思維可以協助我導入政策幫助國家更有文化高視野的文化相關的政策能夠推進而且要跟國際接軌這是我個人我也是廣義的公務體系的一份子所以我要來分享的是\n我請請教人事長來下頁文化基本法來回到文化基本法\n2019 2019年6月5號是我剛擔任立委非常有成就感的一個立法因為這是文化的基本大法文化基本法裡頭對於部部都是文化部做了一個非常清楚的入法各部會都要來做文化資產的保存活化傳承維護及宣揚各部會都要有寬裂文化預算要有\n國內外人才的參與文化工作這是方方面面要做的所以文化政策要落實在各部會文化不再是outsider這是文化的憲法所以依據文化基本法我們成立了內閣的文化匯報下一頁\n人事長您也是文化會報的參與者有16個部會當中文化會報人事總處最近的一次是陳靜元院長親自召集的會議是2023年10月11號您也去出席了那我可能請教人事總處參與了文化會報那您扮演的角色是什麼\n我覺得文化的東西很重要就是如何讓它生活化的問題我們希望我們的生活跟文化是結合在一起那在人事總處的一個立場我們事實上最近光總處內部我們就安排到很多的博物館去參觀尤其還有一件事情\n這幾年我們剛好在推行政法人是所以我們希望好多新的行政法人都是文化管所對那事實上文化管所他走行政法人他在用人在整個營運因為要更有彈性很多場域他要有專業的策展人嘛嗯\n那你公務機關你如何去找策展人事實上是有困難所以我們要呼喚他可以讓整個文化的管所更加的活躍我非常的開心聽到我們人事長您還更深入的去談到對於行政法人很多是文化管所要為什麼文化管所要用行政法人的方式就是讓他的用人彈性可以引進民間的文化專業人才\n一般的公務人員的培育體系上比較欠缺您抓到一個很重要的重點我非常的感謝今天就教於您就是人事總處之所以成為行政院文化匯報的key person之一就是要從前端的國家人才的培育要can do more第二個我們平常業務會進行很多的訓練\n我們的相關訓練We can do more第三個就是我剛剛跟您分享的最起碼我們要能夠提供給大家在福利面創造一個文化生活的可能性所以它會落在三個面向文化人才的培育、文化思維的建立以及文化生活的創造人事總處真的can do more下一頁\n您知道我們現在有內閣一個新的好政策深受年輕世代歡迎這也是吳思瑤催生的2022年我質詢了蘇貞昌院長我希望能夠催生文化禮金現在已經上路而且擴大\n16至22歲的年輕人可以有每年1200點的文化幣然後鼓勵年輕人去做藝文的消費而且可以振興台灣的藝文產業的發展其實啦年輕時代現在有文化幣這是一個新的境界我也催生我非常感動可以上路事實上我們公務體系早就有文化幣了就是我們每年3000的文康活動費\n要不然我們中央各機關、學校、員工、文康活動實施要點這你懂的嘛對不對?人事總署管欸\n文康活動費是重康樂輕益文我們兩部分就是益文活動可以去做益文欣賞競賽康樂活動就可以辦社團體能競賽慶生聯誼服務休閒等等每年3000這比剛剛那個文化幣啊1200塊一年而且只有16到22歲我們進入公路體系的夥伴每年就有3000可是都在康樂就空秀下一頁\n各部會的文刊活動是您這裡來訂定然後我不知道你們有沒有追蹤我就以人事總處自己的文刊活動來看\n近10年都是在辦康樂活動作為生日禮金慶生會年終獎金年終餐會年終禮品聯誼員工旅遊都很好但是我們這個康樂的項目人事總處的文康活動項目不要忘了是有藝文欣賞那一項啊\n所以說我剛剛跟您分享了您自己有文化生活這可能是你的創意就你自己有這個文化調養要不然我們要給所有的公務同仁藝文類可不可以鼓勵更多我相信大家會支持讓大家就像文化幣年輕人拿到文化幣他會去買書他會去看表演藝術等等這個總可以做到吧\n不只人事總處先做也包括各部會一起來做可以嗎我們事實上很多藝文活動我們都是混搭在整個環境交引沒有混搭藝文活動就是被犧牲沒有混搭 不啦不啦都有隔壁內的啦都有隔壁內的 可以做更多嗎沒問題我想這個沒有問題我後續再跟您討論主席我最後30秒來下面\n我們需要更多的文化人才我很快速的快轉提醒您好下一頁就是在高考的文化行政組就是死亡之組難考缺又少所以他的錄取人數跟錄取率都是最低的下一頁\n普考也是一樣文化行政缺少又難考所以這個提供給您因為各部會在成立很多相關的文化管所當然行政法人給了一個很大的人事彈性但是現在我沒有時間秀出後面的PVT我們有非常多的文化管所\n包括就在新北市要成立一個最大的叫兒童未來館160億的預算國家沒有這種文化人才\n包括各部會都要有文化思維的文化人才現在國營企業開始招考自己的文化人才非常好台電中油台水在做我就點到這裡前端的考選的部分對於文化類的人才的培育要更多好嗎我後面還有訓練面沒有時間講就這個部分您帶回去我後續還有時間就教於您是不是可以讓我們在文化人才的培育多一點空間\n我這裡事實上要補充一下,現在除了大概委員秀出來這個畫面以外,現在很多文化類的管手他用的當然不是教育人員,在這裡看不到啦,就是說教育人員進到那些場域的非常多\n但是畢竟在訓練上還是不同啦沒關係這個議題您帶回去我後續會持續的跟您討論我希望能夠把文化面向的思維多帶到跟人事總處未來的政策討論上謝謝主席多給我時間抱歉耽擱了謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.321 --> 00:34.003\n謝謝主席有請人事長那也請我們公務人力發展學院陳院長一起好人事長跟院長請人事總處的夥伴大家辛苦大家早安那我想先問一下那個人事長我上一次質詢您的時候有拋出希望能夠在我們的公務人員裡頭新增一個價別就是新禮價那你們回去有開始進行研議嗎\n\n00:36.432 --> 00:56.831\n進度因為現在公務人員請假規則全序部現在有正在研擬修正草案所以我們這個薪禮價的問題我們會並同那個請假規則通盤來做一個規劃我這裡跟委員報告啦基本上我很支持的我覺得委員講的那個很重要對\n\n01:00.775 --> 01:17.224\n那所以就我會持續來watch持續來Follow那希望你們可以跟程序部可以強化也表達我們人事總處認為我們要共同促進我們公務同仁的心理健康那一個新設價別就彰顯了我們一個國家政策重要的方向\n\n01:17.944 --> 01:40.879\n那今天我要就教於您部部都是文化部人人都是文化人人事總處candomore那我們可以做什麼呢同樣一個主題我上週也對考試院也提出來了因為畢竟在國家的公務體系的人力規劃禁用考核待遇福利等等其實包括人事總處考試院都相關\n\n01:43.240 --> 01:46.441\n那我想問一下就是您本身有文化生活嗎?\n\n01:46.441 --> 01:46.861\n你最近有去什麼藝文活動或藝文場館嗎?\n\n01:46.861 --> 01:47.741\n去幾個高雄、美術館、台南、南美館、南美二館還有赤嬌還有二手書籍我都去逛\n\n02:06.125 --> 02:20.243\n聽起來人事長您個人的文化生活會是視覺藝術有閒您剛提了高美館像我們江賢二老師的大展才在高美館創下紀錄高美館南美館然後獨立書店等等您個人有\n\n02:21.044 --> 02:46.505\n文化生活非常好我們也希望我們公務同仁都能夠有文化生活當然我今天就較於您我先從文化生活來切入我非常開心您本身是有文化生活的那其實文化生活跟我剛剛說的心理健康有很大的關聯文化是最好的療癒那像思瑤我本人在立法院每天有很多政治的負能量我自己的文化生活是什麼\n\n02:47.225 --> 03:12.327\n我光3月啊我跟大家分享一下我到了歷史博物館歷史博物館是台灣就是遷台以後第一個成立的公立博物館今年已經快已經一甲子了所以是來到台灣一甲子第一次的全面修復然後再出發我去參加了他的大展而且是一個時尚跨界的走秀非常好\n\n03:13.248 --> 03:39.233\n那也提醒大家可以去給我們的國家博物館多多支持石博館就是剛重新開幕推薦大家可以去這是我3月8號去的我3月11號我到台博館剛剛是石博館我又去台博館因為我在做很多建築藝術的紀錄片那天是一個首映會我也推薦大家可以到台博館走一走這是3月11號再來下一頁\n\n03:42.643 --> 04:10.108\n3月19號我回到我的選區北投現在大學有一個USR的計劃就是大學也要有社會責任那把大學生帶到台灣的社區現場以我參加的這個共主節就是我媒合了實踐大學建築系的學生進到北投的中興新村這是一個非常大規模在修復的眷村所以走進文化資產的現場\n\n04:12.188 --> 04:32.991\n然後透過教育然後一起做一個共主節他有很多的多元的意義但這也告訴我們培育國家的文化人才文資人才每天都要做而我自己作為立法委員我一直在做北投共主節我催生了就是第三年好再來下一個\n\n04:34.452 --> 05:03.661\n那就在上週五我到北美館台灣一個非常好的大展台灣建築1949到1983一個系統性的去回顧台灣建築的發展脈絡這是一個非常棒的展覽我也要推薦給大家我分享了一個光三月我就去了四檔的大展我是一個立法委員我現在也在繼續深造就讀文化類的博士\n\n05:05.238 --> 05:28.309\n我個人告訴自己我要有文化生活討厭我的心靈我要有文化思維可以協助我導入政策幫助國家更有文化高視野的文化相關的政策能夠推進而且要跟國際接軌這是我個人我也是廣義的公務體系的一份子所以我要來分享的是\n\n05:29.690 --> 05:35.476\n我請請教人事長來下頁文化基本法來回到文化基本法\n\n05:37.415 --> 06:03.140\n20192019年6月5號是我剛擔任立委非常有成就感的一個立法因為這是文化的基本大法文化基本法裡頭對於部部都是文化部做了一個非常清楚的入法各部會都要來做文化資產的保存活化傳承維護及宣揚各部會都要有寬裂文化預算要有\n\n06:04.241 --> 06:22.541\n國內外人才的參與文化工作這是方方面面要做的所以文化政策要落實在各部會文化不再是outsider這是文化的憲法所以依據文化基本法我們成立了內閣的文化匯報下一頁\n\n06:25.575 --> 06:49.778\n人事長您也是文化會報的參與者有16個部會當中文化會報人事總處最近的一次是陳靜元院長親自召集的會議是2023年10月11號您也去出席了那我可能請教人事總處參與了文化會報那您扮演的角色是什麼\n\n06:51.578 --> 07:12.284\n我覺得文化的東西很重要就是如何讓它生活化的問題我們希望我們的生活跟文化是結合在一起那在人事總處的一個立場我們事實上最近光總處內部我們就安排到很多的博物館去參觀尤其還有一件事情\n\n07:14.324 --> 07:31.026\n這幾年我們剛好在推行政法人是所以我們希望好多新的行政法人都是文化管所對那事實上文化管所他走行政法人他在用人在整個營運因為要更有彈性很多場域他要有專業的策展人嘛嗯\n\n07:31.306 --> 07:55.092\n那你公務機關你如何去找策展人事實上是有困難所以我們要呼喚他可以讓整個文化的管所更加的活躍我非常的開心聽到我們人事長您還更深入的去談到對於行政法人很多是文化管所要為什麼文化管所要用行政法人的方式就是讓他的用人彈性可以引進民間的文化專業人才\n\n07:56.912 --> 08:18.798\n一般的公務人員的培育體系上比較欠缺您抓到一個很重要的重點我非常的感謝今天就教於您就是人事總處之所以成為行政院文化匯報的keyperson之一就是要從前端的國家人才的培育要candomore第二個我們平常業務會進行很多的訓練\n\n08:20.518 --> 08:40.932\n我們的相關訓練Wecandomore第三個就是我剛剛跟您分享的最起碼我們要能夠提供給大家在福利面創造一個文化生活的可能性所以它會落在三個面向文化人才的培育、文化思維的建立以及文化生活的創造人事總處真的candomore下一頁\n\n08:44.995 --> 08:53.861\n您知道我們現在有內閣一個新的好政策深受年輕世代歡迎這也是吳思瑤催生的2022年我質詢了蘇貞昌院長我希望能夠催生文化禮金現在已經上路而且擴大\n\n09:02.267 --> 09:29.744\n16至22歲的年輕人可以有每年1200點的文化幣然後鼓勵年輕人去做藝文的消費而且可以振興台灣的藝文產業的發展其實啦年輕時代現在有文化幣這是一個新的境界我也催生我非常感動可以上路事實上我們公務體系早就有文化幣了就是我們每年3000的文康活動費\n\n09:31.566 --> 09:33.070\n要不然我們中央各機關、學校、員工、文康活動實施要點這你懂的嘛對不對?人事總署管欸\n\n09:38.672 --> 10:06.061\n文康活動費是重康樂輕益文我們兩部分就是益文活動可以去做益文欣賞競賽康樂活動就可以辦社團體能競賽慶生聯誼服務休閒等等每年3000這比剛剛那個文化幣啊1200塊一年而且只有16到22歲我們進入公路體系的夥伴每年就有3000可是都在康樂就空秀下一頁\n\n10:07.847 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more第三個就是我剛剛跟您分享的最起碼我們要能夠提供給大家在福利面創造一個文化生活的可能性所以它會落在三個面向文化人才的培育、文化思維的建立以及文化生活的創造人事總處真的can do 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不啦不啦都有隔壁內的啦都有隔壁內的 可以做更多嗎沒問題我想這個沒有問題我後續再跟您討論主席我最後30秒來下面"},{"start":694.229,"end":712.337,"text":"我們需要更多的文化人才我很快速的快轉提醒您好下一頁就是在高考的文化行政組就是死亡之組難考缺又少所以他的錄取人數跟錄取率都是最低的下一頁"},{"start":713.357,"end":734.18,"text":"普考也是一樣文化行政缺少又難考所以這個提供給您因為各部會在成立很多相關的文化管所當然行政法人給了一個很大的人事彈性但是現在我沒有時間秀出後面的PVT我們有非常多的文化管所"},{"start":734.941,"end":743.199,"text":"包括就在新北市要成立一個最大的叫兒童未來館160億的預算國家沒有這種文化人才"},{"start":744.09,"end":771.02,"text":"包括各部會都要有文化思維的文化人才現在國營企業開始招考自己的文化人才非常好台電中油台水在做我就點到這裡前端的考選的部分對於文化類的人才的培育要更多好嗎我後面還有訓練面沒有時間講就這個部分您帶回去我後續還有時間就教於您是不是可以讓我們在文化人才的培育多一點空間"},{"start":772.305,"end":788.112,"text":"我這裡事實上要補充一下,現在除了大概委員秀出來這個畫面以外,現在很多文化類的管手他用的當然不是教育人員,在這裡看不到啦,就是說教育人員進到那些場域的非常多"},{"start":788.592,"end":802.156,"text":"但是畢竟在訓練上還是不同啦沒關係這個議題您帶回去我後續會持續的跟您討論我希望能夠把文化面向的思維多帶到跟人事總處未來的政策討論上謝謝主席多給我時間抱歉耽擱了謝謝"}]}}}}