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--> 00:01:41,998\n部長,無人機跟電子戰\n\n6\n00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:28,934\n兩者互相的影響,臺灣縱深不足一旦開戰如何突破電子干擾如何避免無人機地面控制站被鎖定攻擊相關的防禦措施請部長,你要好好的規劃規劃好以後再做一個簡要的說明\n\n7\n00:02:33,596 --> 00:02:48,691\n整體防衛的問題從徵收怎麼樣來防止徵收被破壞到最後戰力發揮怎麼樣能夠防止它阻斷我們戰力發揮這是一個全面的我可以派人跟委員做一個很詳盡的說明\n\n8\n00:02:50,905 --> 00:03:08,864\n我國阿帕契攻擊直升機俗稱是坦克殺手．如今惡霧戰爭無人機運用也重創許多坦克．請問部長阿帕契攻擊直升機的防禦任務．未來是否會被無人機所取代\n\n9\n00:03:11,124 --> 00:03:27,295\n我剛剛有跟委員報告,很多東西取代不可能完全取代,他會彌補他的不足,所以你要講完全取代,我覺得這有一定的一個要商榷的餘地,我不能做一個承諾。另外,我們向美國採購的埃布蘭坦克,\n\n10\n00:03:29,096 --> 00:03:43,747\n2024年首批將接裝38輛,那請問邱部長,愛布蘭坦克有能力單獨應對無人機的威脅嗎?任何一樣,因為我本身專法兵各位很清楚,防空是任何部隊都要做的。\n\n11\n00:03:44,528 --> 00:04:12,574\n但是戰車防空的話,它比一般的野戰防空稍微要好一點,就是它可以自己來掌控,它要發揚火力等等。但是畢竟它對一個防空方面作為再怎麼強,它也是一個消極性的。對於戰車還有它有它的弱點。那未來它像這些戰車有沒有相關防禦的這些環制的措施?我現在是針對防空方面嘛。對。它有雷達嗎?沒有嗎?\n\n12\n00:04:14,025 --> 00:04:33,552\n報告委員,我們在戰車方面,我們的相對的防空,我們還是要靠整個情資的掌握,還有結合我們的戰力保存,還有地形的運用,還有隊形的變換,那基本上每個武器有它的強項,也有它需要克服的地方,想報告部長,如果亦無亦,亦然啊\n\n13\n00:04:34,632 --> 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