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00:01:52,466\n那這種情況之下我們無人機到底要怎麼樣建制的上位政策應該很清楚吧就我們國家方向要清楚不然底下你們在建制怎麼建制阿對不對這已經很清楚就是說我們能力以內的一定要自己來建制能力以外的要透過很多管道包含商用商規阿等等都可以納入\n\n6\n00:01:53,366 --> 00:02:11,467\n那問題就來了一個行政院長看到大陸製的無人機在國慶表演要震怒徹查那另外一個行政院長看到無人機國家隊的馬達測試的馬達是要大家不要大驚小怪我想請問到底我們商會政策是什麼\n\n7\n00:02:13,301 --> 00:02:40,458\n這關於中國製的問題,上位政策到底是什麼?沒有,我只知道一下,我們軍方啊,這個籌現任何武器裝備的話,它裡面要件各方不得來自大陸,這是我們嚴格在把關的。好,我再想請教您,蔡總統參觀國防工業展,曾經業者保證無人機國家隊推動一年多來,軍用商規已經是百分之百無中國零件,請問我們現在無人機國家隊的軍用商規已經做到百分之百無中國零件嗎?\n\n8\n00:02:41,078 --> 00:02:41,719\n那我很好奇啊\n\n9\n00:03:00,498 --> 00:03:10,087\n既然都已經做到了那為什麼我們在未來總統的賴清德面前還要用中國馬達的無人機來展示測試呢?\n\n10\n00:03:12,547 --> 00:03:38,080\n這是雙用的,我不能夠做一個解說,因為飛機不一樣,無人機不一樣。這是我剛剛為什麼一直強調的一件事情,剛剛部長也講到了,就是說一定是軍用商規,你也認為要百分之百無中國零件,對不對?那您剛剛的論點其實跟我們的無人機國家隊隊長很像,你說台灣如果做不出來,又買也要買進來,這是他的說法。\n\n11\n00:03:38,783 --> 00:03:39,824\n我想再請教下一個問題\n\n12\n00:03:58,917 --> 00:04:19,814\n你知道今年年初我們監察院發現國防部六軍團指揮部龍山營區國防巨人軍旅技藝第三區資源指揮部玉琴營區的邁向勝利高峰還有航空特戰指揮部龜仁營區的護衛等公共藝術都是來自哪裡製造進口請陸軍來做說明這樣知道嗎\n\n13\n00:04:30,494 --> 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因為監察院說的啦那我想請教您吼那對於這個我們連我們國軍營區裡面的公共藝術吼都有中國製我想請教部長這個總有跟你的業務有關吼你覺得我們應該要像蘇貞昌一樣要嚴肅看待來徹查還是說今天要跟陳建仁一樣\n295518\t296318\t不要大驚小怪\n315945\t325777\t我們不能一味的推給基層幹部,他畢竟年輕,經驗不足,所以我把這個責任放到我們自己身上,要做課金輔導之責,這我們就絕對要嚴正來看這個問題,不會輕忽的,但絕對不會任憑去辦人啊幹嘛,不會這樣子的。\n333587\t350061\t好 謝謝部長我覺得還是一句話啦到底所謂中國制在我們國防部的看待裡面到底是嚴肅看待還是說今天跟陳建陽不要大驚小怪這叫上位指導如果上位政策都沒拿定的話底下會無所適從以上謝謝羅智強委員\n","txt":"主席有請部長來邱部長請羅委員好部長請教2022年國慶的無人機表演被發現是大陸製的你知道當時的行政院長蘇貞昌是怎麼反應的嗎\n我告訴您,他說寧可不要有這種表演,下令行政院徹查,是為什麼有中國製的無人機。我想請教部長,你會不會覺得蘇貞昌有點大驚小怪?\n沒有 我覺得當時環境不好 我不能幫他作答 根本沒辦法 這個我沒辦法好 沒有關係 那我想請教你下一個問題那才不久前嘛 我們的總統當選賴清德到嘉義參觀無人機國家隊現場展出了經緯航太無人機產品馬達是中國製的 引發關注可是行政院院長陳建仁被問到我們無人機國家隊\n有中國製的馬達,他怎麼回答你知道嗎?他說不用大驚小怪,不要就是大做文章那我想請問部長,因為基本上你也在你的報告當中無人機也是將來未來重要的戰略我們的武器嘛,就是包括我們的裝備嘛,對不對?\n那這種情況之下我們無人機到底要怎麼樣建制的上位政策應該很清楚吧就我們國家方向要清楚不然底下你們在建制怎麼建制阿對不對這已經很清楚就是說我們能力以內的一定要自己來建制能力以外的要透過很多管道包含商用商規阿等等都可以納入\n那問題就來了一個行政院長看到大陸製的無人機在國慶表演要震怒徹查那另外一個行政院長看到無人機國家隊的馬達測試的馬達是要大家不要大驚小怪我想請問到底我們商會政策是什麼\n這關於中國製的問題,上位政策到底是什麼?沒有,我只知道一下,我們軍方啊,這個籌現任何武器裝備的話,它裡面要件各方不得來自大陸,這是我們嚴格在把關的。好,我再想請教您,蔡總統參觀國防工業展,曾經業者保證無人機國家隊推動一年多來,軍用商規已經是百分之百無中國零件,請問我們現在無人機國家隊的軍用商規已經做到百分之百無中國零件嗎?\n那我很好奇啊\n既然都已經做到了那為什麼我們在未來總統的賴清德面前還要用中國馬達的無人機來展示測試呢?\n這是雙用的,我不能夠做一個解說,因為飛機不一樣,無人機不一樣。這是我剛剛為什麼一直強調的一件事情,剛剛部長也講到了,就是說一定是軍用商規,你也認為要百分之百無中國零件,對不對?那您剛剛的論點其實跟我們的無人機國家隊隊長很像,你說台灣如果做不出來,又買也要買進來,這是他的說法。\n我想再請教下一個問題\n你知道今年年初我們監察院發現國防部六軍團指揮部龍山營區國防巨人軍旅技藝第三區資源指揮部玉琴營區的邁向勝利高峰還有航空特戰指揮部龜仁營區的護衛等公共藝術都是來自哪裡製造進口請陸軍來做說明這樣知道嗎\n大陸廈門啦 因為監察院說的啦那我想請教您吼那對於這個我們連我們國軍營區裡面的公共藝術吼都有中國製我想請教部長這個總有跟你的業務有關吼你覺得我們應該要像蘇貞昌一樣要嚴肅看待來徹查還是說今天要跟陳建仁一樣\n不要大驚小怪\n我們不能一味的推給基層幹部,他畢竟年輕,經驗不足,所以我把這個責任放到我們自己身上,要做課金輔導之責,這我們就絕對要嚴正來看這個問題,不會輕忽的,但絕對不會任憑去辦人啊幹嘛,不會這樣子的。\n好 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