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--> 00:02:19,458\n你平常應該有在接觸民生吧對不對你知道漲電價這一波對我們平民老百姓的壓力非常大嘛對不對會提高啊商家成本會提高啊可是今天我看到我們政府解放竟然是不可以漲電價唯有漲物價你管不了自己漲電價你去管別人漲物價\n\n8\n00:02:20,558 --> 00:02:32,452\n就這個邏輯嗎?是要駝鳥洞掌法嗎?所以我跟你講我建議我們的主計總處主計處主計長你直接跟大家公佈漲電價不會影響物價我們通膨還會下降\n\n9\n00:02:36,172 --> 00:03:02,839\n為什麼你政府一句話不要漲就好啦是這回事嗎跟那個委員報告一下我們的提給今天委員會的一個報告我們就說這個物價會漲多少會有我們告訴主計長現在還在講是未來式因為4月漲電價你知道過去我們的物價就高漲了嗎一直在漲嗎知道吧我公布的我當然知道謝謝對啊\n\n10\n00:03:03,905 --> 00:03:30,722\n那您在答詢曾經問過收入分配不均貧富差距變大你就政府責任比較大嘛對不對我的意思說大家可能有一個不當的連接我的意思說如果是那個是社會上有不公平的現象政府要有貧富差距擴大是個事實嘛這點總不否認吧對不對然後呢我們勞工時日薪資也在下降啊\n\n11\n00:03:31,923 --> 00:03:52,577\n那我想請問貧富差距擴大,弱勢越弱勢,實質薪資下降,勞工也弱勢可是現在你現在看到我們的電價這時候調漲,請問我們的老百姓怎麼辦啊跟那個委員報告講,所以經濟部的方案有對於那個說一定那個度數以下的他的漲幅比較低\n\n12\n00:03:54,397 --> 00:03:59,141\n您的這個破例都不好不夠你要學王美花就一聲令下通通不准漲對不對漲電價不可以漲物價最簡單啊\n\n13\n00:04:22,935 --> 00:04:51,937\n再不然還有一招我交給我們的那個主計長啦也很簡單你就跟大家講齁你放心我們這個基本上漲不了多少錢啦這烘焙坊只會漲兩塊錢啦一天只漲兩塊錢啦跟大家用這個方式來宣導我們每個人都覺得漲不了錢基本上心情就快樂一點是不是你知道我們就問台電嘛台電我也很謝謝台電啊台電在這邊嘛我們的美化部長說烘焙坊啊\n\n14\n00:04:53,152 --> 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對不對然後呢我們勞工時日薪資也在下降啊\n211923\t232577\t那我想請問貧富差距擴大,弱勢越弱勢,實質薪資下降,勞工也弱勢可是現在你現在看到我們的電價這時候調漲,請問我們的老百姓怎麼辦啊跟那個委員報告講,所以經濟部的方案有對於那個說一定那個度數以下的他的漲幅比較低\n234397\t239141\t您的這個破例都不好不夠你要學王美花就一聲令下通通不准漲對不對漲電價不可以漲物價最簡單啊\n262935\t291937\t再不然還有一招我交給我們的那個主計長啦也很簡單你就跟大家講齁你放心我們這個基本上漲不了多少錢啦這烘焙坊只會漲兩塊錢啦一天只漲兩塊錢啦跟大家用這個方式來宣導我們每個人都覺得漲不了錢基本上心情就快樂一點是不是你知道我們就問台電嘛台電我也很謝謝台電啊台電在這邊嘛我們的美化部長說烘焙坊啊\n293152\t314369\t一天漲2塊一個月漲60塊我的單區我沒有找到這個烘焙房這樣的烘焙房你找的是只有門市沒有烤箱的對不對這個意思嗎可是一般的烘焙房很多烘焙房有烤箱是一般的吧標配吧除了門市以外啦你要做烘焙你沒有烤箱嗎\n315484\t335878\t所以回頭就要講今天漲電價人民已經很痛苦了但不需要是一個幹話部長做不死人間煙火的這些所謂的粉飾太平這一點主計長你認同吧跟那個委員報告一下據我知道大規模的那個賣麵包廠都是由中央租房出來的\n337273\t358158\t他有沒有烤箱?中央廚房會有啦當然啊!你要不要不然發射在就算你門市沒有他的工廠也有啊我就有遇到有單區的他門市也是還是超過700度啊他工廠當然更不用講了加起來夯不啷噹也是一樣啊也是要一萬塊多一個月多一萬塊你台電說的啊\n360063\t382184\t那請問你到底現在你知道我直接跟那個主席講拜託經濟部回去跟部長說一聲啦好不好我們區裡面的那個烘焙業者已經很痛苦了他說我們漲電價很痛苦了為什麼美華部長還一直消費他們傷口灑鹽嗎一直拿他們做例子他們已經很痛苦了\n384329\t396955\t我想跟委員說明一下這一點的狀況是這樣子台電提供的案例我今天早上一再就澄清說確實是門市那因為台電的電費價格門市的麵包從哪裡來啊就從工廠來不是嗎\n402738\t403859\t道反過來講啦,就是我們要找一個700度以下的case\n424915\t425055\t下一個質詢請\n","txt":"主席有請主計總處、經濟部、台電如主計長曾次長、台電公司總經理主計長請問電價漲物價會不會漲?\n按照正常情況之下他有聯手效果應該是會往上非常好可是我們往往美花部長的那個經濟學不太一樣他說不應該以漲電價為由來漲物價\n所以意思是電價可以漲但物價要動漲嗎政府要下令動漲物價了嗎跟那個委員報告一下經濟部的報告也都認為說物價會上漲我知道為難你啦完美的話講就是幹話啦就這麼簡單啦一個幹話部長啦\n我想請教你下一個問題你知道電價調漲你知道北捷電費大概佔北捷的營運成本多少比例大概11%左右我看到數字13你看到11但是反正就是有相當重的比例\n那我想請教你喔你知道對於北捷面臨的電費上升然後面臨的營運成本的壓力一年要支出多5億的這個情況你知道陳建仁談到北捷的票價調漲他的回答是什麼你知道嗎陳建仁院長詳細的情況我不曉得他說票價跟漲沒正當性啊\n這邏輯不跟王美花一樣啊不可以漲電價唯有漲物價啊我想請問主計長\n你平常應該有在接觸民生吧 對不對你知道漲電價這一波對我們平民老百姓的壓力非常大嘛 對不對會提高啊商家成本會提高啊可是今天我看到我們政府解放竟然是不可以漲電價唯有漲物價你管不了自己漲電價你去管別人漲物價\n就這個邏輯嗎?是要駝鳥洞掌法嗎?所以我跟你講我建議我們的主計總處主計處主計長你直接跟大家公佈漲電價不會影響物價我們通膨還會下降\n為什麼你政府一句話不要漲就好啦是這回事嗎跟那個委員報告一下我們的提給今天委員會的一個報告我們就說這個物價會漲多少會有我們告訴主計長現在還在講是未來式因為4月漲電價你知道過去我們的物價就高漲了嗎一直在漲嗎知道吧我公布的我當然知道謝謝對啊\n那您在答詢曾經問過收入分配不均貧富差距變大你就政府責任比較大嘛 對不對我的意思說大家可能有一個不當的連接我的意思說如果是那個是社會上有不公平的現象政府要有貧富差距擴大是個事實嘛這點總不否認吧 對不對然後呢我們勞工時日薪資也在下降啊\n那我想請問貧富差距擴大,弱勢越弱勢,實質薪資下降,勞工也弱勢可是現在你現在看到我們的電價這時候調漲,請問我們的老百姓怎麼辦啊跟那個委員報告講,所以經濟部的方案有對於那個說一定那個度數以下的他的漲幅比較低\n您的這個破例都不好不夠你要學王美花就一聲令下通通不准漲對不對漲電價不可以漲物價最簡單啊\n再不然還有一招我交給我們的那個主計長啦也很簡單你就跟大家講齁你放心我們這個基本上漲不了多少錢啦這烘焙坊只會漲兩塊錢啦一天只漲兩塊錢啦跟大家用這個方式來宣導我們每個人都覺得漲不了錢基本上心情就快樂一點是不是你知道我們就問台電嘛台電我也很謝謝台電啊台電在這邊嘛我們的美化部長說烘焙坊啊\n一天漲2塊一個月漲60塊我的單區我沒有找到這個烘焙房這樣的烘焙房你找的是只有門市沒有烤箱的對不對這個意思嗎可是一般的烘焙房很多烘焙房有烤箱是一般的吧標配吧除了門市以外啦你要做烘焙你沒有烤箱嗎\n所以回頭就要講今天漲電價人民已經很痛苦了但不需要是一個幹話部長做不死人間煙火的這些所謂的粉飾太平這一點主計長你認同吧跟那個委員報告一下據我知道大規模的那個賣麵包廠都是由中央租房出來的\n他有沒有烤箱?中央廚房會有啦當然啊!你要不要不然發射在就算你門市沒有他的工廠也有啊我就有遇到有單區的他門市也是還是超過700度啊他工廠當然更不用講了加起來夯不啷噹也是一樣啊也是要一萬塊多一個月多一萬塊你台電說的啊\n那請問你到底現在你知道我直接跟那個主席講拜託經濟部回去跟部長說一聲啦好不好我們區裡面的那個烘焙業者已經很痛苦了他說我們漲電價很痛苦了為什麼美華部長還一直消費他們傷口灑鹽嗎一直拿他們做例子他們已經很痛苦了\n我想跟委員說明一下這一點的狀況是這樣子台電提供的案例我今天早上一再就澄清說確實是門市那因為台電的電費價格門市的麵包從哪裡來啊就從工廠來不是嗎\n道反過來講啦,就是我們要找一個700度以下的case\n下一個質詢請\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.962 --> 00:19.480\n主席有請主計總處、經濟部、台電如主計長曾次長、台電公司總經理主計長請問電價漲物價會不會漲?\n\n00:24.448 --> 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