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00:01:17,626\n品牌我就在這邊不把這些品牌講出來透過轉售計畫大概是可以減少約15%的碳排所以基本上總結來說快時尚產業當然是想透過回收轉售等等的方式來降低它的足跡\n\n5\n00:01:18,426 --> 00:01:47,590\n但是實際的成果會因為它這個衣物的材質屬於混合纖維物難以回收或者是說二手的架殼不髒加上來回運送的部分導致它又要更多碳排所以減碳的成果是有限的因為這個議題我也是長期蠻有興趣在關注的所以我還蠻希望說部長您可不可以針對快時上排碳的這個部分有什麼樣的看法跟有什麼樣的建議跟做法\n\n6\n00:01:48,186 --> 00:01:48,606\n環境部部長\n\n7\n00:02:06,204 --> 00:02:34,987\n包括寶特瓶的回收那我想寶特瓶的回收就是一個非常好的這個案例就是說PET寶特瓶這個材質現在反而期紡織業一直想要搶這個寶特瓶的這個回收材質那甚至是有些想要從國外進口單一這個寶特瓶的材料來作為事實上也符合減碳因為它是再次回收的\n\n8\n00:02:35,247 --> 00:02:46,084\n二、處理或審查中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度\n\n9\n00:02:46,892 --> 00:03:08,367\n那在這個不同的材質之間要去做回收事實上就面臨挑戰所以事實上環境部現在在包括從源頭減量跟綠色設計這一塊一直是希望鼓勵包括這個時尚業者將來的衣服要用單一的材質\n\n10\n00:03:09,788 --> 00:03:26,834\n單一的材質將來在回收方面就可以加速所以這個大概是我們現在積極在努力的方向部長因為我有關注到你們有去年有頒布這個品牌服飾業及百貨紡織品的循環指引那這個部分就如同你剛剛講的\n\n11\n00:03:27,754 --> 00:03:51,929\n鼓勵用單一材質那對環境比較有效我想要請教就是說你們有沒有編列相關的這些預算來去鼓勵就是說獎懲的機制有沒有已經納入進行的?基本上就是希望透過資源回收基金的這一塊來提供誘因給這些業者他們願意去使用這個回收的這個\n\n12\n00:03:58,273 --> 00:04:09,341\n主要我在這個國會那特別講這件事情是希望說提醒不管是每一個我們的政府機關也好還是一般民眾如果在看國會頻道的話\n\n13\n00:04:09,821 --> 00:04:16,825\n二、處理或審查中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度中華民國113年度\n\n14\n00:04:36,676 --> 00:05:00,345\n基本上在國小的教育、國中的教育大概是做到回收這一塊從我們那一個年齡層開始對於二手衣的回收部分基本上已經不存在我們的視野裡面那我們唯一的印象就是偶爾經過某一個角落會看到一個二手衣的回收箱可是這些二手衣的回收箱通常外面都會用一個封條說已不收回收衣物\n\n15\n00:05:00,965 --> 00:05:17,523\n那它變成反而是造成景觀髒亂的一個地方為什麼因為大家不會把我們的二手衣物放在裡面大家會把垃圾放在裡面那所以針對不管是快食商或者是二手衣物的回收跟使用現在這一些二手衣物箱你們是怎麼規劃的\n\n16\n00:05:19,535 --> 00:05:35,773\n這一塊是不是請我們這個那署長來回答一下如果說我們這個地方清潔隊他有些回收商我們現在來推動我們的百貨業、零售業還有我們像UNIQLO這種單一的輔助業他設置回收箱那這樣就可以去回收一些更單一的材質那更利於我們的循環\n\n17\n00:05:36,724 --> 00:06:03,556\n所以沒有鼓勵這些百貨業者來做這個事情那主要是在哪一個地方?在臺北?現在我們有頒布一個指引那目前大概有幾家的百貨業已經提出來申請那我們可以再去拓增找更多的百貨跟零售業一起來參與我希望可以盡速把指引變成到法律的層級那如果有相關的書面的報告可以給我的話我們也可以做相關的提案\n\n18\n00:06:04,458 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