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00:02:51,760\n所以我們在面對很多緊急狀況的時候包括之前日本我們發生一些突發的意外的時候我們自己的安排也都是落後的才造成後續的一些紛紛擾擾那現在這個狀況勒\n\n8\n00:02:58,235 --> 00:03:03,297\n你怎麼做?先簡單的說就好了。因為那時候跟我們說有徹橋計劃。我們都有備案。現在如果立即發生,我們應該要怎麼做?他們會坐誰的飛機走?\n\n9\n00:03:11,874 --> 00:03:15,756\n這個要看狀況了因為他飛機每天有不同國家在飛那時候如果沒有位子大家都要走啊你現在還可以準備因為我們對於自己的國人我們現在在第一線明知道他已經很危險美國都已經撤掉了連美國都覺得那個不容易掌握他們都早就在啟動撤僑機\n\n10\n00:03:55,304 --> 00:04:09,155\n現在我想要請教的是在貶政府時期我們為了減少台灣對丹麥的一個貿易順差然後也發展我國的替代能源政策2004年台灣跟丹麥採購了高達3000萬美元的風力發電機那在2019年的時候蔡英文總統也接見了丹麥的國會副議長他們的訪問團\n\n11\n00:04:24,037 --> 00:04:29,904\n當時也承諾不管是在綠能、在環保、在創新設計還有老人照護、農畜食品跟產業這個都是丹麥發展的重點產業然後也希望雙方有更好的一個交流跟學習那在\n\n12\n00:04:43,820 --> 00:04:53,652\n希望持續加強跟丹麥各領域的合作情況之下．2022年前委員就是林昶佐他\n\n13\n00:04:54,804 --> 00:05:22,845\n他也籌組了跨黨派的立委的訪問團到丹麥去參加哥本哈根的民主高峰會這個國會議員的論壇那時候總統也發表視訊演說可是在這麼短的時間因為我們看到媒體可能也有披露現在丹麥他只是不承認台灣是一個國家那對我們會造成很大的衝擊首先在\n\n14\n00:05:25,899 --> 00:05:48,134\n他們的居留證上面你必須做圈選他現在台灣這個選項沒有了我想要請教次長今天如果我們到丹麥去我們的國人需要申請居留證的時候他現在只有中國只有香港只有澳門我想請問我們應該要勾選哪一個我們的國人應該要勾選哪一個\n\n15\n00:05:52,800 --> 00:06:05,725\n我們現在已經注意到這個問題了我們已經跟丹麥的官方去積極的洽商讓他們把這個名稱做改過來我們已經採取了動作那如果他不改勒?\n\n16\n00:06:07,243 --> 00:06:26,579\n因為顯然他們是非常明確的態度因為從2021年開始2021年之前都還有可是2021年以後就沒了所以他們的態度越來越明確的情況之下我們要怎麼做你只是跟他說要做修正因為這是國際現實\n\n17\n00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:46,149\n今天我們希望說在這樣的情況之下我們即使在我們自己的國內所以我們台灣在整個國際上面我們有多少理念相近的國家對我們有多支持我剛剛講的這部分都是政府在我們國人的面前告訴我們的\n\n18\n00:06:47,290 --> 00:07:02,681\n我們跟丹麥的關係非常友好當然在很多的方面不管在自由民主不管在我們的整體的國家發展或者在科技在各方面台灣有很優秀的一個部分可是在國際現實上面我們常常面臨到這樣的問題怎麼辦\n\n19\n00:07:08,155 --> 00:07:35,967\n這個問題再次的印證中國在世界各地對我們的打壓所以這一點要國際一定要清楚這個問題市長我們非常清楚我們現在要知道的是我們要怎麼因應因為即使連我們認為理念相近國家非常支持我們的我們這樣告訴國人的都是這樣對待我們的情況之下我們應該要怎麼樣走出國際因為我們的邦交國越來越少\n\n20\n00:07:36,747 --> 00:07:36,787\n﹚馬文君﹚\n\n21\n00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:55,860\n我們嚴正的去抗議\n\n22\n00:08:11,988 --> 00:08:14,970\n今天如果我們由政府做不來的部分有些人有些代表團有些有機會可以去溝通對話的時候被抹紅成什麼樣子\n\n23\n00:08:35,188 --> 00:08:51,140\n那你怎麼會有路可以走今天包括普丁他也公開一直宣誓把台灣當成中國的一部分他所有的唱和都是跟著中國的步調走這對我們來說壓縮越來越嚴重俄烏戰爭他什麼時候結束我們不曉得可是俄烏戰爭也會牽動台海的局勢緊張所以當我們自己在討論這些的時候怎麼樣開啟對話因為\n\n24\n00:09:04,349 --> 00:09:04,549\n美國也設廠了\n\n25\n00:09:20,273 --> 00:09:20,613\n謝謝馬文君委員來次長請回\n\n26\n00:09:50,953 --> 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