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00:03:00,424\n主委您覺得這個評比有沒有公信力?在國際間大家認同度呢?\n\n9\n00:03:25,365 --> 00:03:51,096\n我跟委員報告這些國際的排名那它有一些客觀的因素那有一些它是從公共的資訊裡面去收集應該這樣說啦其實NTI是一個非營利的無黨派的全球安全組織他們的宗旨就是在致力減少危害人類的核子以及生物的威脅那主委您覺得說這個有沒有讓台灣民眾參考的價值\n\n10\n00:03:52,516 --> 00:04:18,408\n可以參考這個國際間的評比其實一直以來跟我們的核安會都有做聯繫他總共評分了175個國家還有包括我們台灣那其中其實有蠻蠻多項的這個評分的意義跟他如何評分及用處其實我看到的時候我也沒有辦法馬上了解說這個是要做什麼所以也請教過我們核安會那這個在我們核安會的網站上面是看不到任何資料那其實\n\n11\n00:04:19,928 --> 00:04:41,121\n在從這個報告上面來講我們在安全防護上面我們的評分是非常好我們拿的分數是非常高那雖然說我們有一些分數比較低那其實也是因為我們比較特殊的國際情勢導致這個分數比較低但是我們在其他運用其他的方式我們都把其他的部分都做得很好那既然說我們的評分很高很好為什麼核安會沒有告訴大家我們網站上看不到欸\n\n12\n00:04:42,025 --> 00:04:45,788\n好我們會來努力所以他們有沒有規定說NTLA這份評比在國內的核安網站上不能引用嘛對不對那我們把他補足讓我們的民眾們知道說其實我們在國際間對我們整個核材料安全的這個防護的指數呢其實給我們的評價是高的我們真的有做得很好那這個部分呢我相信說\n\n13\n00:05:04,051 --> 00:05:13,140\n在我們國內我們關心臺灣核安的民眾也都會非常在意那我這邊提醒的重點就是說這個評比這個指數其實他是非常的專業是你們核安會的專業那很多國際間的媒體對這個評比他們都會發表相關的談話那我們有專業的獨立的機關為什麼我們獨立這個部分我們也沒有針對這一份我們發表我們的看法跟\n\n14\n00:05:26,585 --> 00:05:31,867\n我想我們會來加強這個部分的宣告那這個就請主委要加強接下來我承接就是溝通跟民眾信任的問題過去當日本排放這個寒川廢水的時候就有針對民眾的疑慮跟擔心我們做了一個調查那當時顯示調查的結果擔心的民眾高達6成3那本席想要知道說目前的狀況你們有持續的在追蹤民眾對這個議題對這個關心的程度還是現在的疑慮有沒有降低呢\n\n15\n00:05:55,274 --> 00:06:16,012\n我們持續在追蹤那包含我們在網頁上有做新的調查嗎是的有那目前民眾們對這件事情他們的擔憂程度呢有稍微降下來嗎民眾的擔憂我相信是有減緩那因為我們其實在海域在網頁在APP都有做即時的更新那每一個禮拜\n\n16\n00:06:17,253 --> 00:06:37,864\n包括擴散預報整合一錶板﹑跨部會的整頓展都有相關訊息的揭露提供給民眾相信說民眾有感受到說我們橫岸衛對這一塊如果有掌握有監控的話應該就是對這個擔心的程度會稍微再降低那過去呢因應含川沸水的排放在委員會群討的時候橫岸衛有坦承說過去我們沒有檢測碳14跟點129的能力\n\n17\n00:06:42,466 --> 00:06:53,692\n當時主委是說需要立法院的支持那在核安慰的網站上面有說會持續研議相關的量能那請問目前你們的進度我們今年有一個科技計畫在輻射偵測中心我們會裡面對智慧監測計畫碳14.129大概都會來建置關鍵的檢測能力\n\n18\n00:07:04,542 --> 00:07:24,055\n所以這個部分已經有相當的進度在進行其實這個寒川肺炎它還持續的在排放那我們跟民眾持續的溝通跟互動能讓民眾能夠了解說河岸會裡面有掌握相關的訊息重要的訊息讓民眾能夠了解說不用過度的擔憂一切都是在我們可以掌握的範圍之內但是\n\n19\n00:07:26,957 --> 00:07:43,538\n你們已經有在做了有做得很好的部分真的應該要讓民眾知道在我們核安會改制的時候呢我們的院長陳建仁院長有期許說希望核安會可持續跟民眾做溝通取得信任那你們現在覺得說你們有善盡溝通的責任嗎你們有做到嗎\n\n20\n00:07:44,773 --> 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對不對那我們把他補足讓我們的民眾們知道說其實我們在國際間對我們整個核材料安全的這個防護的指數呢其實給我們的評價是高的我們真的有做得很好那這個部分呢我相信說\n304051\t313140\t在我們國內我們關心臺灣核安的民眾也都會非常在意那我這邊提醒的重點就是說這個評比這個指數其實他是非常的專業是你們核安會的專業那很多國際間的媒體對這個評比他們都會發表相關的談話那我們有專業的獨立的機關為什麼我們獨立這個部分我們也沒有針對這一份我們發表我們的看法跟\n326585\t331867\t我想我們會來加強這個部分的宣告那這個就請主委要加強接下來我承接就是溝通跟民眾信任的問題過去當日本排放這個寒川廢水的時候就有針對民眾的疑慮跟擔心我們做了一個調查那當時顯示調查的結果擔心的民眾高達6成3那本席想要知道說目前的狀況你們有持續的在追蹤民眾對這個議題對這個關心的程度還是現在的疑慮有沒有降低呢\n355274\t376012\t我們持續在追蹤那包含我們在網頁上有做新的調查嗎是的有那目前民眾們對這件事情他們的擔憂程度呢有稍微降下來嗎民眾的擔憂我相信是有減緩那因為我們其實在海域在網頁在APP都有做即時的更新那每一個禮拜\n377253\t397864\t包括擴散預報整合一錶板﹑跨部會的整頓展都有相關訊息的揭露提供給民眾相信說民眾有感受到說我們橫岸衛對這一塊如果有掌握有監控的話應該就是對這個擔心的程度會稍微再降低那過去呢因應含川沸水的排放在委員會群討的時候橫岸衛有坦承說過去我們沒有檢測碳14跟點129的能力\n402466\t413692\t當時主委是說需要立法院的支持那在核安慰的網站上面有說會持續研議相關的量能那請問目前你們的進度我們今年有一個科技計畫在輻射偵測中心我們會裡面對智慧監測計畫碳14.129大概都會來建置關鍵的檢測能力\n424542\t444055\t所以這個部分已經有相當的進度在進行其實這個寒川肺炎它還持續的在排放那我們跟民眾持續的溝通跟互動能讓民眾能夠了解說河岸會裡面有掌握相關的訊息重要的訊息讓民眾能夠了解說不用過度的擔憂一切都是在我們可以掌握的範圍之內但是\n446957\t463538\t你們已經有在做了有做得很好的部分真的應該要讓民眾知道在我們核安會改制的時候呢我們的院長陳建仁院長有期許說希望核安會可持續跟民眾做溝通取得信任那你們現在覺得說你們有善盡溝通的責任嗎你們有做到嗎\n464773\t488012\t我們一直在努力那跟委員報告我是覺得說你們不要核安會不要覺得說你們有默默的把自己的職責做好了就好那你們做了你沒有讓民眾知道沒有介入這樣的訊息你們沒有辦法取得民眾的信任其實民眾也不知道核安會你們到底在做什麼業務那本期這邊檢視了一下核安會你們的YouTube首先呢我要先對你們核安會有做多種語言的版本這個宣傳影片表示肯定但是我們來檢視一下訂閱人數跟觀看的次數喔訂閱人數只有829\n494997\t521645\t3個月內發佈的影片最高的觀看人是只有102這個真的是非常非常低的數字耶主委你有什麼想法好這個部分我們內部有在做檢討事實上我們在網頁最近有在做更新大概在一兩個月可以會上線那這個部分其實我有關注到就是說品質那長度那大概都是不是很理想那麼我們內部有在做所以你自己有看了\n522105\t525769\t這個對影片的內容因為我時間快到了我這邊要提醒就是說我這邊主要提醒說核安會對你們有在做而且做得很好的你們這個宣傳跟民眾溝通的力道是不夠的這樣子對減輕民眾的疑慮是沒有幫助而且高度專業的東西民眾如果看不懂就表示說核安會你們沒有做好適宜的工作\n543627\t543787\t主席\n","txt":"陳秀寳,請陳主委。好,有請陳主委。陳委員好。主委早安。主委,針對這個核安你們的業務,應該核安會不是只針對我們自己國內的核安,對於國際上的整個核能發展趨勢應該都會關心吧?\n首屆的核能高峰會剛結束那會議中各國的共識是說將共同振興核能並且有35國承諾說會新建新的核電廠核安會在這方面你們有掌握到這個訊息嗎有那有哪幾個國家將會積極的建設或是未來有沒有預估台灣周邊的國家會再多幾座核電廠核安會你們對這個事情的態度跟看法呢\n跟委員說明幾個主要國家其實都有參與包括美國、加拿大、日本、韓國但是世界也有另外一個\n本席想要知道說對於他們現在核能高峰會他們本身有這個公式未來我們也要積極的去了解說我們鄰近的國家他們未來這個興建的計畫因為既然是在我們的左邊在我們的隔壁那麼他們興建核電廠對我們的安全我們該去防範的我們該做的因應我們必須本身你們要有這樣子的一個看法在跟態度在\n未來在國際上這個核電廠的興建就問您覺得核廢料的處理會不會是最大的挑戰這個的確是要需要很大的社會成本跟社會的關係因為目前我國核廢料相關廢棄物儲存有很大很大相當大必須努力的空間那其實歐盟的執委會主席范德拉恩也說其實核子復興的這個挑戰中不僅有核電廠產業的紀律的問題\n那其實過去的案例裡面這個核電廠新建這個延宕問題常常需要追加大筆的預算那還有核電廠呢研議呢必須要保障安全以及需要更多的新資金以及新創研尤其說對我國來講我們核廢料一直沒有辦法有一個適當的好的去處來妥善處理這些核廢料我國真的沒有擴大使用核電的條件\nNTI 核材料安全指數\n主委您覺得這個評比有沒有公信力?在國際間大家認同度呢?\n我跟委員報告這些國際的排名那它有一些客觀的因素那有一些它是從公共的資訊裡面去收集應該這樣說啦其實NTI是一個非營利的無黨派的全球安全組織他們的宗旨就是在致力減少危害人類的核子以及生物的威脅那主委您覺得說這個有沒有讓台灣民眾參考的價值\n可以參考這個國際間的評比其實一直以來跟我們的核安會都有做聯繫他總共評分了175個國家還有包括我們台灣那其中其實有蠻蠻多項的這個評分的意義跟他如何評分及用處其實我看到的時候我也沒有辦法馬上了解說這個是要做什麼所以也請教過我們核安會那這個在我們核安會的網站上面是看不到任何資料那其實\n在從這個報告上面來講我們在安全防護上面我們的評分是非常好我們拿的分數是非常高那雖然說我們有一些分數比較低那其實也是因為我們比較特殊的國際情勢導致這個分數比較低但是我們在其他運用其他的方式我們都把其他的部分都做得很好那既然說我們的評分很高很好為什麼核安會沒有告訴大家我們網站上看不到欸\n好 我們會來努力所以他們有沒有規定說NTLA這份評比在國內的核安網站上不能引用嘛 對不對那我們把他補足讓我們的民眾們知道說其實我們在國際間對我們整個核材料安全的這個防護的指數呢其實給我們的評價是高的我們真的有做得很好那這個部分呢我相信說\n在我們國內我們關心臺灣核安的民眾也都會非常在意那我這邊提醒的重點就是說這個評比這個指數其實他是非常的專業是你們核安會的專業那很多國際間的媒體對這個評比他們都會發表相關的談話那我們有專業的獨立的機關為什麼我們獨立這個部分我們也沒有針對這一份我們發表我們的看法跟\n我想我們會來加強這個部分的宣告那這個就請主委要加強接下來我承接就是溝通跟民眾信任的問題過去當日本排放這個寒川廢水的時候就有針對民眾的疑慮跟擔心我們做了一個調查那當時顯示調查的結果擔心的民眾高達6成3那本席想要知道說目前的狀況你們有持續的在追蹤民眾對這個議題對這個關心的程度還是現在的疑慮有沒有降低呢\n我們持續在追蹤那包含我們在網頁上有做新的調查嗎是的有那目前民眾們對這件事情他們的擔憂程度呢有稍微降下來嗎民眾的擔憂我相信是有減緩那因為我們其實在海域在網頁在APP都有做即時的更新那每一個禮拜\n包括擴散預報整合一錶板﹑跨部會的整頓展都有相關訊息的揭露提供給民眾相信說民眾有感受到說我們橫岸衛對這一塊如果有掌握有監控的話應該就是對這個擔心的程度會稍微再降低那過去呢因應含川沸水的排放在委員會群討的時候橫岸衛有坦承說過去我們沒有檢測碳14跟點129的能力\n當時主委是說需要立法院的支持那在核安慰的網站上面有說會持續研議相關的量能那請問目前你們的進度我們今年有一個科技計畫在輻射偵測中心我們會裡面對智慧監測計畫碳14.129大概都會來建置關鍵的檢測能力\n所以這個部分已經有相當的進度在進行其實這個寒川肺炎它還持續的在排放那我們跟民眾持續的溝通跟互動能讓民眾能夠了解說河岸會裡面有掌握相關的訊息重要的訊息讓民眾能夠了解說不用過度的擔憂一切都是在我們可以掌握的範圍之內但是\n你們已經有在做了有做得很好的部分真的應該要讓民眾知道在我們核安會改制的時候呢我們的院長陳建仁院長有期許說希望核安會可持續跟民眾做溝通取得信任那你們現在覺得說你們有善盡溝通的責任嗎你們有做到嗎\n我們一直在努力那跟委員報告我是覺得說你們不要核安會不要覺得說你們有默默的把自己的職責做好了就好那你們做了你沒有讓民眾知道沒有介入這樣的訊息你們沒有辦法取得民眾的信任其實民眾也不知道核安會你們到底在做什麼業務那本期這邊檢視了一下核安會你們的YouTube首先呢我要先對你們核安會有做多種語言的版本這個宣傳影片表示肯定但是我們來檢視一下訂閱人數跟觀看的次數喔訂閱人數只有829\n3個月內發佈的影片最高的觀看人是只有102這個真的是非常非常低的數字耶主委你有什麼想法好這個部分我們內部有在做檢討事實上我們在網頁最近有在做更新大概在一兩個月可以會上線那這個部分其實我有關注到就是說品質那長度那大概都是不是很理想那麼我們內部有在做所以你自己有看了\n這個對影片的內容因為我時間快到了我這邊要提醒就是說我這邊主要提醒說核安會對你們有在做而且做得很好的你們這個宣傳跟民眾溝通的力道是不夠的這樣子對減輕民眾的疑慮是沒有幫助而且高度專業的東西民眾如果看不懂就表示說核安會你們沒有做好適宜的工作\n主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.065 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