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00:02:46,660\n也拜託檢察機關及中央及地方衛生單位一起攜手努力因為很多人在擔心是不是這個中毒不是只有保齡茶室而已很多人擔心這個問題如果說我們不能夠確定是食品中毒還是千面人下毒或是食品中毒是什麼樣太陽的話我們就很難去溯源或是去追查到底它的影響範圍多大這一點你認同嗎對不對\n\n8\n00:02:47,321 --> 00:02:59,800\n是我們一定會全力而且盡快查明這速度真的要快因為真的我覺得也拖不得好那我想再請教一下我們那個部長我們這個你知道明天什麼節日嗎\n\n9\n00:03:01,701 --> 00:03:19,176\n明天3、2、9青年節講經國先生曾說要幫助青年從德業上立志學術上增盛事業上成功使每一個青年都能在公平的立足點上能創造能發展你認同這樣的說法嗎\n\n10\n00:03:20,205 --> 00:03:47,023\n我們非常重視青年不管是教育或是就業我想這都是政府應該要努力的可是很不幸的實際上我要問一下我們的局長我們的周局長你知道我從本席從刑事局歷年的統計來看近5年的少年嫌疑犯人數又有逐年攀升的現象局長可以告訴我為什麼嗎近5年\n\n11\n00:03:49,173 --> 00:04:14,007\n這個最重要增加的就是因為這個詐騙的案件車手的這個答對了是還有很多的是因為這個三四級毒品這個施用者也有這個增加對我看到的數字就是說青少年的這個詐欺的數字成長非常可怕了非常巨大20而且是在2023年達於新高是從\n\n12\n00:04:17,051 --> 00:04:25,511\n662件那一直升高到2193件那這個詐欺的青少年的涉案的狀況為什麼會有這樣的一個情況\n\n13\n00:04:27,345 --> 00:04:55,023\n最重要他們就是參與這個詐騙集團的車手的這個狀況那因為車手目前來講是我們有權利在查緝那所以只要是有這跟詐騙集團被利用來當車手的部分我們都會全力來查那查到的話所以他的數據會變高因為我為了要追查下一手的這個車手所以我們會對這個部分會特別盡力來查緝所以這個車手的數量\n\n14\n00:04:55,683 --> 00:05:25,229\n可能會有增加因為這少年又因為他有免責都其實我常常聽到就我們的打在國家隊都說啊詐欺案件為什麼高所以我們查器很努力嘛你認為是這個原因嗎那這個也不見得因為網路的發達是很多但是這個人數的部分這時候確實是因為我覺得局長的態度就很好啊你也覺得不見得不純粹的我們不只詐騙案件變多詐騙的金額也是不斷的創下新高而且事實上我就看過一個民調嘛\n\n15\n00:05:25,589 --> 00:05:26,609\n有96%的人接到詐騙信息\n\n16\n00:05:41,474 --> 00:05:50,338\n有沒有看過詐騙的那個LINE訊息或是簡訊我講詐騙訊息啦所以現在詐騙正以普遍氾濫到說真的不是誰看過問題而是我們多久會看到一次的問題吧像我覺得我自己喔我自己幾乎每個月每半個月大概就要受一個很大的困擾你知道是什麼嗎每半個月我都要做一件事情你知道是什麼嗎局長\n\n17\n00:06:08,427 --> 00:06:36,343\n我要去檢舉去下架想辦法下架冒我的名來詐騙的粉專阿真是層出不窮所以現在的詐騙的狀況非常嚴重那我接下來想請教你喔你聽聽看這故事勵不勵志有一個26歲的黑手從很年輕的時候從學徒做起基層做起到26歲的時候就開創了自己的工作室招募學徒你覺得像這樣的故事勵不勵志\n\n18\n00:06:37,472 --> 00:06:37,952\n當然當然不是\n\n19\n00:06:56,161 --> 00:07:11,453\n有一個26歲的車手升級當老闆因為他從青少年的時候就開始有很多的一些案件然後招募青少年組織詐騙車手集團犯案然後結果變成自己當老闆這顯示一件很嚴重的問題說這一個所謂的車手升格成詐騙集團的重要幹部甚至首腦他是經過一個\n\n20\n00:07:26,414 --> 00:07:54,816\n犯罪養成過程欸對不對對這個部分啊就是因為我們會對這些在犯的這些人我們有事再重複查緝會對他們部分我覺得齁我們的做法端跟所謂的程度端都真的要加強否則我現在都詐騙集團都要變成國民教育的一環了你知道嗎以照目前看到的數字那嚴重程度是觸目驚心啦我相信局長你應該也有感吧\n\n21\n00:07:56,295 --> 00:08:21,269\n報告委員這部分確實有但是剛剛講說有冒名的部分其實我們去年就到現在已經有下架因為時間因素我想要請部長幫我一個忙就是我們對於這類型青少年犯罪再犯的比例有多高有沒有去追蹤你會後用書面的方式來提供我們辦公室來追蹤好不好就再犯率的部分那另外就是說\n\n22\n00:08:22,540 --> 00:08:45,232\n我們看到少年詐欺犯逐年增加變成治安的隱憂那全國已經進入法院審理的青少年詐騙人數2017年首度超過1萬人到2019到2022年也都還在9000人以上那這些其實都跟我們現在真的這個詐騙那種橫行的環境有很大的關係對不對\n\n23\n00:08:47,639 --> 00:09:12,918\n對而且我跟部長講還有一點啦現在年輕人真的謀之不利然後他們在又受到這個詐騙集團的詐騙跟誘惑就變得相對又更大所以這變成某種惡性循環才會導致我們今天這個青少年的詐騙的問題越來越嚴重那接下來我要請教我們的那個署長我們的矯正署署長\n\n24\n00:09:14,819 --> 00:09:38,449\n請問你為什麼端品中學內會發生學生的暴動呢?或是學生集體的事件呢?跟委員報告主要是因為在自習課的時候學生想到外面去打籃球那因為這個原因造成一些騷動說是無法打籃球\n\n25\n00:09:40,427 --> 00:09:43,554\n但是媒體報導說3個小時才將事件平息是這樣嗎?\n\n26\n00:09:45,222 --> 00:10:12,587\n花了多久把事件平息?平息時間是大概昨天的下午5點40分差不多大概就3個小時對為什麼花這麼長的時間?報告委員這個時間應該是不算長因為我們要依照一定的SOP然後啟動區域聯防那我們也順利的把這個事件平息署長我問齁你覺得單純是因為無法打籃球而集體滋擾嗎?\n\n27\n00:10:14,585 --> 00:10:43,004\n我跟委員報告我們有去瞭解出了請端品做檢討報告我們也是覺得其中一個重要原因是因為端品中學的教導員的預算嚴格是27名近兩年來他們新進人員有13名所以一些教導員的新進技術在管教技巧上有待加強這個部分我們會透過在職教育以及常年教育來做加強\n\n28\n00:10:43,724 --> 00:11:07,427\n我覺得很好我覺得我們的署長就從內部檢討做起就是我們自己內部的管理也是有一些問題那最後我要講我們每年將近有一萬名的少年嫌疑犯人數很多還是進到矯正體系裡面所以就像本席說的我們還是矯正機關的角色非常重要希望署長好好的努力那像這種事件\n\n29\n00:11:08,288 --> 00:11:16,825\n要重新要好好檢討到底為什麼發生這個事件除了矯正人員工作人員的一個狀況以外那到底青少年的狀況是如何以上謝謝好謝謝羅志強\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6771\t15013\t備質詢。主席有請部長、檢察總長、矯正署署長以及刑事警察局局長。請點到名的各位首長請就備詢台。\n20987\t49019\t部長好委員長在談我們今天的報告之前我想還是要關切一下目前一個重大的一個食安事件就是這個保齡茶室這個食品中毒案那我也要反映我們選區的選民就我有選民來跟我反映說事實上他在信義區逛的時候這個因為他是素食者所以基本上素食餐廳的選項向來是比較少一些\n49739\t66811\t所以他如果到信義區那邊去逛的時候他常常就是到A13的寶林茶室去用餐所以目前其實民眾非常擔心也非常關心就是說到底這個目前產生這個中毒案是基於什麼原因\n68112\t94167\t我看到大概是兩個方向嘛一個就是說衛福部目前我們的衛福部的推測是認為是米酵菌栓中毒的可能性比較高但我也看到有一些討論是講說有沒有千面人下毒的可能性那這一點我想現在全國民眾都非常關切我想了解一下法務部檢查機關目前對於這個案件目前的作為到什麼程度呢\n95733\t110534\t發生死亡結果以後我們就立即相驗初步相驗完畢今天上午兩位死者我們都解剖要查明死因那這個法醫研究所也派法醫去大概預估什麼時候會有結果出來\n111575\t139257\t會盡快因為今天解剖完了以後會一般一般像我們這樣這種情況他們會加班處理大概大概有而且要配合這些藥物的檢驗機構專家大家來判定所以我想會有最快的速度好那希望能夠盡快因為原因查清楚我們才知道他影響範圍就追溯過去所以這部分真的也是代表我們的這個民眾以及包括我自己選區的選民\n140858\t166660\t也拜託檢察機關及中央及地方衛生單位一起攜手努力因為很多人在擔心是不是這個中毒不是只有保齡茶室而已很多人擔心這個問題如果說我們不能夠確定是食品中毒還是千面人下毒或是食品中毒是什麼樣太陽的話我們就很難去溯源或是去追查到底它的影響範圍多大這一點你認同嗎 對不對\n167321\t179800\t是我們一定會全力而且盡快查明這速度真的要快因為真的我覺得也拖不得好那我想再請教一下我們那個部長我們這個你知道明天什麼節日嗎\n181701\t199176\t明天3、2、9青年節講經國先生曾說要幫助青年從德業上立志學術上增盛事業上成功使每一個青年都能在公平的立足點上能創造能發展你認同這樣的說法嗎\n200205\t227023\t我們非常重視青年不管是教育或是就業我想這都是政府應該要努力的可是很不幸的實際上我要問一下我們的局長我們的周局長你知道我從本席從刑事局歷年的統計來看近5年的少年嫌疑犯人數又有逐年攀升的現象局長可以告訴我為什麼嗎近5年\n229173\t254007\t這個最重要增加的就是因為這個詐騙的案件車手的這個答對了是還有很多的是因為這個三四級毒品這個施用者也有這個增加對我看到的數字就是說青少年的這個詐欺的數字成長非常可怕了非常巨大20而且是在2023年達於新高是從\n257051\t265511\t662件那一直升高到2193件那這個詐欺的青少年的涉案的狀況為什麼會有這樣的一個情況\n267345\t295023\t最重要他們就是參與這個詐騙集團的車手的這個狀況那因為車手目前來講是我們有權利在查緝那所以只要是有這跟詐騙集團被利用來當車手的部分我們都會全力來查那查到的話所以他的數據會變高因為我為了要追查下一手的這個車手所以我們會對這個部分會特別盡力來查緝所以這個車手的數量\n295683\t325229\t可能會有增加因為這少年又因為他有免責都其實我常常聽到就我們的打在國家隊都說啊詐欺案件為什麼高所以我們查器很努力嘛你認為是這個原因嗎那這個也不見得因為網路的發達是很多但是這個人數的部分這時候確實是因為我覺得局長的態度就很好啊你也覺得不見得不純粹的我們不只詐騙案件變多詐騙的金額也是不斷的創下新高而且事實上我就看過一個民調嘛\n325589\t326609\t有96%的人接到詐騙信息\n341474\t350338\t有沒有看過詐騙的那個LINE訊息或是簡訊我講詐騙訊息啦所以現在詐騙正以普遍氾濫到說真的不是誰看過問題而是我們多久會看到一次的問題吧像我覺得我自己喔我自己幾乎每個月每半個月大概就要受一個很大的困擾你知道是什麼嗎每半個月我都要做一件事情你知道是什麼嗎局長\n368427\t396343\t我要去檢舉去下架想辦法下架冒我的名來詐騙的粉專阿真是層出不窮所以現在的詐騙的狀況非常嚴重那我接下來想請教你喔你聽聽看這故事勵不勵志有一個26歲的黑手從很年輕的時候從學徒做起基層做起到26歲的時候就開創了自己的工作室招募學徒你覺得像這樣的故事勵不勵志\n397472\t397952\t當然當然不是\n416161\t431453\t有一個26歲的車手升級當老闆因為他從青少年的時候就開始有很多的一些案件然後招募青少年組織詐騙車手集團犯案然後結果變成自己當老闆這顯示一件很嚴重的問題說這一個所謂的車手升格成詐騙集團的重要幹部甚至首腦他是經過一個\n446414\t474816\t犯罪養成過程欸 對不對對這個部分啊就是因為我們會對這些在犯的這些人我們有事再重複查緝會對他們部分我覺得齁我們的做法端跟所謂的程度端都真的要加強否則我現在都詐騙集團都要變成國民教育的一環了你知道嗎以照目前看到的數字那嚴重程度是觸目驚心啦我相信局長你應該也有感吧\n476295\t501269\t報告委員這部分確實有但是剛剛講說有冒名的部分其實我們去年就到現在已經有下架因為時間因素我想要請部長幫我一個忙就是我們對於這類型青少年犯罪再犯的比例有多高有沒有去追蹤你會後用書面的方式來提供我們辦公室來追蹤好不好就再犯率的部分那另外就是說\n502540\t525232\t我們看到少年詐欺犯逐年增加變成治安的隱憂那全國已經進入法院審理的青少年詐騙人數2017年首度超過1萬人到2019到2022年也都還在9000人以上那這些其實都跟我們現在真的這個詐騙那種橫行的環境有很大的關係 對不對\n527639\t552918\t對而且我跟部長講還有一點啦現在年輕人真的謀之不利然後他們在又受到這個詐騙集團的詐騙跟誘惑就變得相對又更大所以這變成某種惡性循環才會導致我們今天這個青少年的詐騙的問題越來越嚴重那接下來我要請教我們的那個署長我們的矯正署署長\n554819\t578449\t請問你為什麼端品中學內會發生學生的暴動呢?或是學生集體的事件呢?跟委員報告主要是因為在自習課的時候學生想到外面去打籃球那因為這個原因造成一些騷動說是無法打籃球\n580427\t583554\t但是媒體報導說3個小時才將事件平息是這樣嗎?\n585222\t612587\t花了多久把事件平息?平息時間是大概昨天的下午5點40分差不多大概就3個小時對為什麼花這麼長的時間?報告委員這個時間應該是不算長因為我們要依照一定的SOP然後啟動區域聯防那我們也順利的把這個事件平息署長我問齁你覺得單純是因為無法打籃球而集體滋擾嗎?\n614585\t643004\t我跟委員報告我們有去瞭解出了請端品做檢討報告我們也是覺得其中一個重要原因是因為端品中學的教導員的預算嚴格是27名近兩年來他們新進人員有13名所以一些教導員的新進技術在管教技巧上有待加強這個部分我們會透過在職教育以及常年教育來做加強\n643724\t667427\t我覺得很好我覺得我們的署長就從內部檢討做起就是我們自己內部的管理也是有一些問題那最後我要講我們每年將近有一萬名的少年嫌疑犯人數很多還是進到矯正體系裡面所以就像本席說的我們還是矯正機關的角色非常重要希望署長好好的努力那像這種事件\n668288\t676825\t要重新要好好檢討到底為什麼發生這個事件除了矯正人員工作人員的一個狀況以外那到底青少年的狀況是如何以上謝謝好謝謝羅志強\n","txt":"備質詢。主席有請部長、檢察總長、矯正署署長以及刑事警察局局長。請點到名的各位首長請就備詢台。\n部長好委員長在談我們今天的報告之前我想還是要關切一下目前一個重大的一個食安事件就是這個保齡茶室這個食品中毒案那我也要反映我們選區的選民就我有選民來跟我反映說事實上他在信義區逛的時候這個因為他是素食者所以基本上素食餐廳的選項向來是比較少一些\n所以他如果到信義區那邊去逛的時候他常常就是到A13的寶林茶室去用餐所以目前其實民眾非常擔心也非常關心就是說到底這個目前產生這個中毒案是基於什麼原因\n我看到大概是兩個方向嘛一個就是說衛福部目前我們的衛福部的推測是認為是米酵菌栓中毒的可能性比較高但我也看到有一些討論是講說有沒有千面人下毒的可能性那這一點我想現在全國民眾都非常關切我想了解一下法務部檢查機關目前對於這個案件目前的作為到什麼程度呢\n發生死亡結果以後我們就立即相驗初步相驗完畢今天上午兩位死者我們都解剖要查明死因那這個法醫研究所也派法醫去大概預估什麼時候會有結果出來\n會盡快因為今天解剖完了以後會一般一般像我們這樣這種情況他們會加班處理大概大概有而且要配合這些藥物的檢驗機構專家大家來判定所以我想會有最快的速度好那希望能夠盡快因為原因查清楚我們才知道他影響範圍就追溯過去所以這部分真的也是代表我們的這個民眾以及包括我自己選區的選民\n也拜託檢察機關及中央及地方衛生單位一起攜手努力因為很多人在擔心是不是這個中毒不是只有保齡茶室而已很多人擔心這個問題如果說我們不能夠確定是食品中毒還是千面人下毒或是食品中毒是什麼樣太陽的話我們就很難去溯源或是去追查到底它的影響範圍多大這一點你認同嗎 對不對\n是我們一定會全力而且盡快查明這速度真的要快因為真的我覺得也拖不得好那我想再請教一下我們那個部長我們這個你知道明天什麼節日嗎\n明天3、2、9青年節講經國先生曾說要幫助青年從德業上立志學術上增盛事業上成功使每一個青年都能在公平的立足點上能創造能發展你認同這樣的說法嗎\n我們非常重視青年不管是教育或是就業我想這都是政府應該要努力的可是很不幸的實際上我要問一下我們的局長我們的周局長你知道我從本席從刑事局歷年的統計來看近5年的少年嫌疑犯人數又有逐年攀升的現象局長可以告訴我為什麼嗎近5年\n這個最重要增加的就是因為這個詐騙的案件車手的這個答對了是還有很多的是因為這個三四級毒品這個施用者也有這個增加對我看到的數字就是說青少年的這個詐欺的數字成長非常可怕了非常巨大20而且是在2023年達於新高是從\n662件那一直升高到2193件那這個詐欺的青少年的涉案的狀況為什麼會有這樣的一個情況\n最重要他們就是參與這個詐騙集團的車手的這個狀況那因為車手目前來講是我們有權利在查緝那所以只要是有這跟詐騙集團被利用來當車手的部分我們都會全力來查那查到的話所以他的數據會變高因為我為了要追查下一手的這個車手所以我們會對這個部分會特別盡力來查緝所以這個車手的數量\n可能會有增加因為這少年又因為他有免責都其實我常常聽到就我們的打在國家隊都說啊詐欺案件為什麼高所以我們查器很努力嘛你認為是這個原因嗎那這個也不見得因為網路的發達是很多但是這個人數的部分這時候確實是因為我覺得局長的態度就很好啊你也覺得不見得不純粹的我們不只詐騙案件變多詐騙的金額也是不斷的創下新高而且事實上我就看過一個民調嘛\n有96%的人接到詐騙信息\n有沒有看過詐騙的那個LINE訊息或是簡訊我講詐騙訊息啦所以現在詐騙正以普遍氾濫到說真的不是誰看過問題而是我們多久會看到一次的問題吧像我覺得我自己喔我自己幾乎每個月每半個月大概就要受一個很大的困擾你知道是什麼嗎每半個月我都要做一件事情你知道是什麼嗎局長\n我要去檢舉去下架想辦法下架冒我的名來詐騙的粉專阿真是層出不窮所以現在的詐騙的狀況非常嚴重那我接下來想請教你喔你聽聽看這故事勵不勵志有一個26歲的黑手從很年輕的時候從學徒做起基層做起到26歲的時候就開創了自己的工作室招募學徒你覺得像這樣的故事勵不勵志\n當然當然不是\n有一個26歲的車手升級當老闆因為他從青少年的時候就開始有很多的一些案件然後招募青少年組織詐騙車手集團犯案然後結果變成自己當老闆這顯示一件很嚴重的問題說這一個所謂的車手升格成詐騙集團的重要幹部甚至首腦他是經過一個\n犯罪養成過程欸 對不對對這個部分啊就是因為我們會對這些在犯的這些人我們有事再重複查緝會對他們部分我覺得齁我們的做法端跟所謂的程度端都真的要加強否則我現在都詐騙集團都要變成國民教育的一環了你知道嗎以照目前看到的數字那嚴重程度是觸目驚心啦我相信局長你應該也有感吧\n報告委員這部分確實有但是剛剛講說有冒名的部分其實我們去年就到現在已經有下架因為時間因素我想要請部長幫我一個忙就是我們對於這類型青少年犯罪再犯的比例有多高有沒有去追蹤你會後用書面的方式來提供我們辦公室來追蹤好不好就再犯率的部分那另外就是說\n我們看到少年詐欺犯逐年增加變成治安的隱憂那全國已經進入法院審理的青少年詐騙人數2017年首度超過1萬人到2019到2022年也都還在9000人以上那這些其實都跟我們現在真的這個詐騙那種橫行的環境有很大的關係 對不對\n對而且我跟部長講還有一點啦現在年輕人真的謀之不利然後他們在又受到這個詐騙集團的詐騙跟誘惑就變得相對又更大所以這變成某種惡性循環才會導致我們今天這個青少年的詐騙的問題越來越嚴重那接下來我要請教我們的那個署長我們的矯正署署長\n請問你為什麼端品中學內會發生學生的暴動呢?或是學生集體的事件呢?跟委員報告主要是因為在自習課的時候學生想到外面去打籃球那因為這個原因造成一些騷動說是無法打籃球\n但是媒體報導說3個小時才將事件平息是這樣嗎?\n花了多久把事件平息?平息時間是大概昨天的下午5點40分差不多大概就3個小時對為什麼花這麼長的時間?報告委員這個時間應該是不算長因為我們要依照一定的SOP然後啟動區域聯防那我們也順利的把這個事件平息署長我問齁你覺得單純是因為無法打籃球而集體滋擾嗎?\n我跟委員報告我們有去瞭解出了請端品做檢討報告我們也是覺得其中一個重要原因是因為端品中學的教導員的預算嚴格是27名近兩年來他們新進人員有13名所以一些教導員的新進技術在管教技巧上有待加強這個部分我們會透過在職教育以及常年教育來做加強\n我覺得很好我覺得我們的署長就從內部檢討做起就是我們自己內部的管理也是有一些問題那最後我要講我們每年將近有一萬名的少年嫌疑犯人數很多還是進到矯正體系裡面所以就像本席說的我們還是矯正機關的角色非常重要希望署長好好的努力那像這種事件\n要重新要好好檢討到底為什麼發生這個事件除了矯正人員工作人員的一個狀況以外那到底青少年的狀況是如何以上謝謝好謝謝羅志強\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.771 --> 00:15.013\n備質詢。主席有請部長、檢察總長、矯正署署長以及刑事警察局局長。請點到名的各位首長請就備詢台。\n\n00:20.987 --> 00:49.019\n部長好委員長在談我們今天的報告之前我想還是要關切一下目前一個重大的一個食安事件就是這個保齡茶室這個食品中毒案那我也要反映我們選區的選民就我有選民來跟我反映說事實上他在信義區逛的時候這個因為他是素食者所以基本上素食餐廳的選項向來是比較少一些\n\n00:49.739 --> 01:06.811\n所以他如果到信義區那邊去逛的時候他常常就是到A13的寶林茶室去用餐所以目前其實民眾非常擔心也非常關心就是說到底這個目前產生這個中毒案是基於什麼原因\n\n01:08.112 --> 01:34.167\n我看到大概是兩個方向嘛一個就是說衛福部目前我們的衛福部的推測是認為是米酵菌栓中毒的可能性比較高但我也看到有一些討論是講說有沒有千面人下毒的可能性那這一點我想現在全國民眾都非常關切我想了解一下法務部檢查機關目前對於這個案件目前的作為到什麼程度呢\n\n01:35.733 --> 01:50.534\n發生死亡結果以後我們就立即相驗初步相驗完畢今天上午兩位死者我們都解剖要查明死因那這個法醫研究所也派法醫去大概預估什麼時候會有結果出來\n\n01:51.575 --> 02:19.257\n會盡快因為今天解剖完了以後會一般一般像我們這樣這種情況他們會加班處理大概大概有而且要配合這些藥物的檢驗機構專家大家來判定所以我想會有最快的速度好那希望能夠盡快因為原因查清楚我們才知道他影響範圍就追溯過去所以這部分真的也是代表我們的這個民眾以及包括我自己選區的選民\n\n02:20.858 --> 02:46.660\n也拜託檢察機關及中央及地方衛生單位一起攜手努力因為很多人在擔心是不是這個中毒不是只有保齡茶室而已很多人擔心這個問題如果說我們不能夠確定是食品中毒還是千面人下毒或是食品中毒是什麼樣太陽的話我們就很難去溯源或是去追查到底它的影響範圍多大這一點你認同嗎對不對\n\n02:47.321 --> 02:59.800\n是我們一定會全力而且盡快查明這速度真的要快因為真的我覺得也拖不得好那我想再請教一下我們那個部長我們這個你知道明天什麼節日嗎\n\n03:01.701 --> 03:19.176\n明天3、2、9青年節講經國先生曾說要幫助青年從德業上立志學術上增盛事業上成功使每一個青年都能在公平的立足點上能創造能發展你認同這樣的說法嗎\n\n03:20.205 --> 03:47.023\n我們非常重視青年不管是教育或是就業我想這都是政府應該要努力的可是很不幸的實際上我要問一下我們的局長我們的周局長你知道我從本席從刑事局歷年的統計來看近5年的少年嫌疑犯人數又有逐年攀升的現象局長可以告訴我為什麼嗎近5年\n\n03:49.173 --> 04:14.007\n這個最重要增加的就是因為這個詐騙的案件車手的這個答對了是還有很多的是因為這個三四級毒品這個施用者也有這個增加對我看到的數字就是說青少年的這個詐欺的數字成長非常可怕了非常巨大20而且是在2023年達於新高是從\n\n04:17.051 --> 04:25.511\n662件那一直升高到2193件那這個詐欺的青少年的涉案的狀況為什麼會有這樣的一個情況\n\n04:27.345 --> 04:55.023\n最重要他們就是參與這個詐騙集團的車手的這個狀況那因為車手目前來講是我們有權利在查緝那所以只要是有這跟詐騙集團被利用來當車手的部分我們都會全力來查那查到的話所以他的數據會變高因為我為了要追查下一手的這個車手所以我們會對這個部分會特別盡力來查緝所以這個車手的數量\n\n04:55.683 --> 05:25.229\n可能會有增加因為這少年又因為他有免責都其實我常常聽到就我們的打在國家隊都說啊詐欺案件為什麼高所以我們查器很努力嘛你認為是這個原因嗎那這個也不見得因為網路的發達是很多但是這個人數的部分這時候確實是因為我覺得局長的態度就很好啊你也覺得不見得不純粹的我們不只詐騙案件變多詐騙的金額也是不斷的創下新高而且事實上我就看過一個民調嘛\n\n05:25.589 --> 05:26.609\n有96%的人接到詐騙信息\n\n05:41.474 --> 05:50.338\n有沒有看過詐騙的那個LINE訊息或是簡訊我講詐騙訊息啦所以現在詐騙正以普遍氾濫到說真的不是誰看過問題而是我們多久會看到一次的問題吧像我覺得我自己喔我自己幾乎每個月每半個月大概就要受一個很大的困擾你知道是什麼嗎每半個月我都要做一件事情你知道是什麼嗎局長\n\n06:08.427 --> 06:36.343\n我要去檢舉去下架想辦法下架冒我的名來詐騙的粉專阿真是層出不窮所以現在的詐騙的狀況非常嚴重那我接下來想請教你喔你聽聽看這故事勵不勵志有一個26歲的黑手從很年輕的時候從學徒做起基層做起到26歲的時候就開創了自己的工作室招募學徒你覺得像這樣的故事勵不勵志\n\n06:37.472 --> 06:37.952\n當然當然不是\n\n06:56.161 --> 07:11.453\n有一個26歲的車手升級當老闆因為他從青少年的時候就開始有很多的一些案件然後招募青少年組織詐騙車手集團犯案然後結果變成自己當老闆這顯示一件很嚴重的問題說這一個所謂的車手升格成詐騙集團的重要幹部甚至首腦他是經過一個\n\n07:26.414 --> 07:54.816\n犯罪養成過程欸對不對對這個部分啊就是因為我們會對這些在犯的這些人我們有事再重複查緝會對他們部分我覺得齁我們的做法端跟所謂的程度端都真的要加強否則我現在都詐騙集團都要變成國民教育的一環了你知道嗎以照目前看到的數字那嚴重程度是觸目驚心啦我相信局長你應該也有感吧\n\n07:56.295 --> 08:21.269\n報告委員這部分確實有但是剛剛講說有冒名的部分其實我們去年就到現在已經有下架因為時間因素我想要請部長幫我一個忙就是我們對於這類型青少年犯罪再犯的比例有多高有沒有去追蹤你會後用書面的方式來提供我們辦公室來追蹤好不好就再犯率的部分那另外就是說\n\n08:22.540 --> 08:45.232\n我們看到少年詐欺犯逐年增加變成治安的隱憂那全國已經進入法院審理的青少年詐騙人數2017年首度超過1萬人到2019到2022年也都還在9000人以上那這些其實都跟我們現在真的這個詐騙那種橫行的環境有很大的關係對不對\n\n08:47.639 --> 09:12.918\n對而且我跟部長講還有一點啦現在年輕人真的謀之不利然後他們在又受到這個詐騙集團的詐騙跟誘惑就變得相對又更大所以這變成某種惡性循環才會導致我們今天這個青少年的詐騙的問題越來越嚴重那接下來我要請教我們的那個署長我們的矯正署署長\n\n09:14.819 --> 09:38.449\n請問你為什麼端品中學內會發生學生的暴動呢?或是學生集體的事件呢?跟委員報告主要是因為在自習課的時候學生想到外面去打籃球那因為這個原因造成一些騷動說是無法打籃球\n\n09:40.427 --> 09:43.554\n但是媒體報導說3個小時才將事件平息是這樣嗎?\n\n09:45.222 --> 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