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00:02:41,979\n那全臺灣2300萬人這6%其實將近要150萬對不對所以你剛剛講競評只是你名字好聽你就說因為他還沒納到這裡面可是事實上我們都知道現在物價都在漲那他們的甚至這批6%的我們的國民他們就是其實就是低於我們政府定義的貧窮線那他又因為沒有辦法取得這些社會福利、醫療費用減免一旦這些生活支出提高了\n\n9\n00:02:42,719 --> 00:03:08,793\n我覺得這批這個乾扣人是真的有在這就很多啦所以我想要問說在這次的電價調漲你們有沒有去預料這件事情有沒有去評估這個事情因為我不希望說像王梅花部長說什麼僱主在半夜來作業可以降低電費這種不食人間煙火的話講出來我們在今天這一題我就是想要告訴你這個事情是真實存在我想替他們發聲所以包含家福基金會執行長\n\n10\n00:03:10,134 --> 00:03:31,173\n他就說其實早期說不具中低收入戶資格的社福邊緣戶約佔兩成可是這幾年都跑到三成多了那這一群弱勢族群他是沒有所謂的學雜費減免、租屋補貼啦他找的房子也是很差的甚至是衛生條件安全都不行他就是要勢必要犧牲他小朋友的受教的權益喔\n\n11\n00:03:31,733 --> 00:03:58,312\n所以這幾年的通膨嚴峻加上現在又漲工資甚至當然你們說常常調漲這個基本工資可是它其實也墊高了這個低收入戶的申請門檻那就是換句話說我覺得現在這樣子的社救網它的網的這個洞好像是越來越大其實會很難開始把這些人牢牢接住所以我想這個在通膨和這個生活成本和申請補助都提高了雙重打擊之下\n\n12\n00:03:59,133 --> 00:04:16,582\n他們可能如果他們一生病了他們可能連那種最基本的醫療費用負擔不了他的膨帶負擔不了甚至藥水也買不起喔所以我想要提醒部長是你們應該要對這件事情提早來做準備和因應所以您剛剛說社救法這件事情也很希望說你們可以盡快提出版本喔因為現在\n\n13\n00:04:18,123 --> 00:04:36,923\n它的門檻相對是比較高,所以門檻是不是要儘速把它降低,要拜託部長,你們可以看到這個漠望世上苦人多少,這苦民所苦,我希望這一題來跟部長講一下這一個部分的話,就是剛剛跟委員報告的,那這一個社救法的這個修法我們已經要進行\n\n14\n00:04:38,264 --> 00:05:06,822\n那應該很快會有這個結論然後有版本出來那第二個就是說已經已經進入到設計法的低收、中低收的那我們定期的時候調整他們的這個補貼的時候那事實上都有考慮到了好部長那請你們可以儘速提出你們的這個修法進度可不可以在這個一個禮拜內給本席進度啦對對對進度還有研議你們預計的期程可不可以都給本席好\n\n15\n00:05:07,677 --> 00:05:20,916\n部長那下星期一就要調漲電費11%請問這個不利的老人之家、兒童之家、少年之家、教養院等等的電費預估會增長多少?這部分是被排除的被排除了?對,被排除了好,所以今年我看到你們的水電費共編了3463萬\n\n16\n00:05:25,588 --> 00:05:49,723\n也排除那私立的部分呢公部門的沒有那私部門的也排除了這些社福機構的話是有被排除都排除掉了好那這個部分就是要請部長他們你們也來注意一下就是當這個電費一漲的時候其實跟上一題一樣就是這些弱勢族群要把他們考量在裡面所以基本上我們主要的訴求就是電費就不要漲了你們520之前不要亂做這種決定了\n\n17\n00:05:51,653 --> 00:06:20,603\n那最後我要來跟部長討論一下國人自殺的現象有逐漸上升的趨勢那我想請教部長國人的自殺標準化死亡率有沒有達到衛福部預定下降的目標這個目前從委員這邊當然是在111年的話看起來是有稍微又上升所以1、2的統計數字是等於說這一個數字是回到疫情前\n\n18\n00:06:21,870 --> 00:06:41,164\n部長可是我很擔心一件事喔我觀察到兒少族群的自殺是越來越嚴重喔再看下一張圖喔你看到這個圖表我們可以看到這個各年齡層的自殺率剛剛上一張不好意思上一張上一張就是上一張是全部這兩年在往上跑嘛對不對好下一張我們可以看到我們的年輕族群\n\n19\n00:06:46,610 --> 00:07:10,182\n二十五到二十四歲跟二十五到四十四歲這幾年都在往上攀升而且是蠻陡峭的那我們再看下一張下一張的時候這是男性的部分也是符合大趨勢都是在上升的趨勢那再下一張女性的部分你可以看到這個年輕族群的女性走得非常的陡峭紅色的部分\n\n20\n00:07:11,855 --> 00:07:39,907\n對不對所以我想要問一下你們有沒有去我很擔心這變成一個趨勢所以我想要請問一下你們有沒有去掌握這個事情然後去研究它背後的原因有沒有跟教育部就是合作如何深入校園或是針對年輕人這塊心腹的業務這部分要跟我們報告事實上我們就是發現到這個趨勢是這樣所以我們就推出一個年輕族群的這個心理衛生的諮詢的一個方案\n\n21\n00:07:40,936 --> 00:08:03,567\n對這個部分我謝謝部長我之前有承擔過我覺得這個方案很不錯可是這個量能其實是不夠的我覺得要第一個要持續增加之外你們其實對於校園的部分我覺得你們要再更加的多琢磨其實我們有瞭解到很多狀況是不足的我相信你們也知道頻頻點頭我知道這個跟教育部我們會再攜手合作因為有一部分是在教育部的新服務系統\n\n22\n00:08:04,187 --> 00:08:24,163\n我知道,所以我剛剛有講到教育部但是衛福部也是很主要的單位所以這個部分關於心路系統我怕說資源是不足所以我們兩個部會會再加上所以包含學校的部分你們怎麼樣落實到整個學校都可以協助因為很多都只是納入到所謂的社安網但是很多也被排擠掉那再來我要講的事情是\n\n23\n00:08:25,253 --> 00:08:50,331\n部長,自殺防治法的第9條第1項規定中央主管機關應該擬定全國自殺防治綱領到行政院核定後實施我要請問部長定了嗎?這草案已經好了草案已經好了可是我要告訴部長到去年12、23號你們自殺防治的諮詢會你們第二屆第4次會議報告就像你說的還是在草案的階段\n\n24\n00:08:51,243 --> 00:09:05,691\n可是其實他108年就通過了自殺防治法而且他第9條就明定要訂定全國自殺防治綱領現在已經都113年了為什麼要拖這麼久我是不是可以請我們市長來回答\n\n25\n00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:27,726\n跟委員報告謝謝委員關心這個議題那自殺防治法我是去年3月上任所以3月上任之後WHO關於自殺防治有全新的作為所以3月到去年12月我們已經又開了4次的跨部會自殺之議會那目前的自殺防治綱領跨部會的會議全部已經好了我們應該下個月就可以報院以上報告\n\n26\n00:09:28,786 --> 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甘委員報告目前社救法正在討論當中那可能會有一個新的這個版本會出來好\n96533\t110434\t剛剛委員提到那是叫近貧就接近貧窮的那一類的族群這個部分的話未來是否可以納到社交法裡面的中低收這個就是看那個標準\n111014\t132320\t我要講的事情是你現在講叫做淨貧啦其實他就是貧窮啦其實就是啦因為我要告訴你現在全臺喔就是有低收入戶大概是10年來平均14萬戶嘛對不對所以現在波動是不大可是其實從臺大社工系的這個名譽教授鄭麗珍的專業估計這群隱性貧窮族群約佔全部人口的6%\n133900\t161979\t那全臺灣2300萬人這6%其實將近要150萬對不對所以你剛剛講競評只是你名字好聽你就說因為他還沒納到這裡面可是事實上我們都知道現在物價都在漲那他們的甚至這批6%的我們的國民他們就是其實就是低於我們政府定義的貧窮線那他又因為沒有辦法取得這些社會福利、醫療費用減免一旦這些生活支出提高了\n162719\t188793\t我覺得這批這個乾扣人是真的有在這就很多啦所以我想要問說在這次的電價調漲你們有沒有去預料這件事情有沒有去評估這個事情因為我不希望說像王梅花部長說什麼僱主在半夜來作業可以降低電費這種不食人間煙火的話講出來我們在今天這一題我就是想要告訴你這個事情是真實存在我想替他們發聲所以包含家福基金會執行長\n190134\t211173\t他就說其實早期說不具中低收入戶資格的社福邊緣戶約佔兩成可是這幾年都跑到三成多了那這一群弱勢族群他是沒有所謂的學雜費減免、租屋補貼啦他找的房子也是很差的甚至是衛生條件安全都不行他就是要勢必要犧牲他小朋友的受教的權益喔\n211733\t238312\t所以這幾年的通膨嚴峻加上現在又漲工資甚至當然你們說常常調漲這個基本工資可是它其實也墊高了這個低收入戶的申請門檻那就是換句話說我覺得現在這樣子的社救網它的網的這個洞好像是越來越大其實會很難開始把這些人牢牢接住所以我想這個在通膨和這個生活成本和申請補助都提高了雙重打擊之下\n239133\t256582\t他們可能如果他們一生病了他們可能連那種最基本的醫療費用負擔不了他的膨帶負擔不了甚至藥水也買不起喔所以我想要提醒部長是你們應該要對這件事情提早來做準備和因應所以您剛剛說社救法這件事情也很希望說你們可以盡快提出版本喔因為現在\n258123\t276923\t它的門檻相對是比較高,所以門檻是不是要儘速把它降低,要拜託部長,你們可以看到這個漠望世上苦人多少,這苦民所苦,我希望這一題來跟部長講一下這一個部分的話,就是剛剛跟委員報告的,那這一個社救法的這個修法我們已經要進行\n278264\t306822\t那應該很快會有這個結論然後有版本出來那第二個就是說已經已經進入到設計法的低收、中低收的那我們定期的時候調整他們的這個補貼的時候那事實上都有考慮到了好部長那請你們可以儘速提出你們的這個修法進度可不可以在這個一個禮拜內給本席進度啦對對對進度還有研議你們預計的期程可不可以都給本席好\n307677\t320916\t部長那下星期一就要調漲電費11%請問這個不利的老人之家、兒童之家、少年之家、教養院等等的電費預估會增長多少?這部分是被排除的被排除了?對,被排除了好,所以今年我看到你們的水電費共編了3463萬\n325588\t349723\t也排除那私立的部分呢公部門的沒有那私部門的也排除了這些社福機構的話是有被排除都排除掉了好那這個部分就是要請部長他們你們也來注意一下就是當這個電費一漲的時候其實跟上一題一樣就是這些弱勢族群要把他們考量在裡面所以基本上我們主要的訴求就是電費就不要漲了你們520之前不要亂做這種決定了\n351653\t380603\t那最後我要來跟部長討論一下國人自殺的現象有逐漸上升的趨勢那我想請教部長國人的自殺標準化死亡率有沒有達到衛福部預定下降的目標這個目前從委員這邊當然是在111年的話看起來是有稍微又上升所以1、2的統計數字是等於說這一個數字是回到疫情前\n381870\t401164\t部長可是我很擔心一件事喔我觀察到兒少族群的自殺是越來越嚴重喔再看下一張圖喔你看到這個圖表我們可以看到這個各年齡層的自殺率剛剛上一張不好意思上一張上一張就是上一張是全部這兩年在往上跑嘛對不對好下一張我們可以看到我們的年輕族群\n406610\t430182\t二十五到二十四歲跟二十五到四十四歲這幾年都在往上攀升而且是蠻陡峭的那我們再看下一張下一張的時候這是男性的部分也是符合大趨勢都是在上升的趨勢那再下一張女性的部分你可以看到這個年輕族群的女性走得非常的陡峭紅色的部分\n431855\t459907\t對不對所以我想要問一下你們有沒有去我很擔心這變成一個趨勢所以我想要請問一下你們有沒有去掌握這個事情然後去研究它背後的原因有沒有跟教育部就是合作如何深入校園或是針對年輕人這塊心腹的業務這部分要跟我們報告事實上我們就是發現到這個趨勢是這樣所以我們就推出一個年輕族群的這個心理衛生的諮詢的一個方案\n460936\t483567\t對 這個部分我謝謝部長我之前有承擔過我覺得這個方案很不錯可是這個量能其實是不夠的我覺得要第一個要持續增加之外你們其實對於校園的部分我覺得你們要再更加的多琢磨其實我們有瞭解到很多狀況是不足的我相信你們也知道頻頻點頭我知道這個跟教育部我們會再攜手合作因為有一部分是在教育部的新服務系統\n484187\t504163\t我知道,所以我剛剛有講到教育部但是衛福部也是很主要的單位所以這個部分關於心路系統我怕說資源是不足所以我們兩個部會會再加上所以包含學校的部分你們怎麼樣落實到整個學校都可以協助因為很多都只是納入到所謂的社安網但是很多也被排擠掉那再來我要講的事情是\n505253\t530331\t部長,自殺防治法的第9條第1項規定中央主管機關應該擬定全國自殺防治綱領到行政院核定後實施我要請問部長定了嗎?這草案已經好了草案已經好了可是我要告訴部長到去年12、23號你們自殺防治的諮詢會你們第二屆第4次會議報告就像你說的還是在草案的階段\n531243\t545691\t可是其實他108年就通過了自殺防治法而且他第9條就明定要訂定全國自殺防治綱領現在已經都113年了為什麼要拖這麼久我是不是可以請我們市長來回答\n547160\t567726\t跟委員報告謝謝委員關心這個議題那自殺防治法我是去年3月上任所以3月上任之後WHO關於自殺防治有全新的作為所以3月到去年12月我們已經又開了4次的跨部會自殺之議會那目前的自殺防治綱領跨部會的會議全部已經好了我們應該下個月就可以報院以上報告\n568786\t592465\t那我要請司長我謝謝你你有重新再講說因為你是上一年三月才上任可是憑良心講這個條例這樣子已經延宕五年多了其實我認為當然你們現在上任了但是你們要更有積極的作為不然我們真的會感到為了這些年輕失去的生命感到萬喜這幾年非常的陡峭所以希望你們趕緊的做不要讓這個不要讓我們覺得到無所作為拜託謝謝好謝謝\n","txt":"現在請廖偉祥委員發言謝謝主席主席好有請我們薛部長請薛部長\n部長你好,4月起這個調漲平均電價11%,一般預期就會引發所有的萬物起漲,那其實現在多方人員都擔心物價漲、電費漲、弱勢族群的租屋可能租金也漲,那這種情況之下,會讓弱勢族群可能過得更雪上加霜\n會讓許多臨時工、打公主可能因為收入不穩定無法支應房租及其他生活費用最後只好被迫流落街頭所以其實我這邊是想要建議政府是不是應該趕快修改我們的社救法\n那看用什麼方式用實際收入認定的社福資格我想才可以真正反映我們這個貧窮人口的生活現況但是因為目前我們受限於社會救助法的資格沒有獲取社福資格的貧窮族群\n其實這一群人我們就先姑且叫他叫做沒有救助資格的貧窮族群我想他們就是在這一波會受到影響更大的一群人不曉得部長是不是也認同我看你平平點通也應該是認同啦對 呃 甘委員報告目前社救法正在討論當中那可能會有一個新的這個版本會出來好\n剛剛委員提到那是叫近貧就接近貧窮的那一類的族群這個部分的話未來是否可以納到社交法裡面的中低收這個就是看那個標準\n我要講的事情是你現在講叫做淨貧啦其實他就是貧窮啦其實就是啦因為我要告訴你現在全臺喔就是有低收入戶大概是10年來平均14萬戶嘛對不對所以現在波動是不大可是其實從臺大社工系的這個名譽教授鄭麗珍的專業估計這群隱性貧窮族群約佔全部人口的6%\n那全臺灣2300萬人這6%其實將近要150萬對不對所以你剛剛講競評只是你名字好聽你就說因為他還沒納到這裡面可是事實上我們都知道現在物價都在漲那他們的甚至這批6%的我們的國民他們就是其實就是低於我們政府定義的貧窮線那他又因為沒有辦法取得這些社會福利、醫療費用減免一旦這些生活支出提高了\n我覺得這批這個乾扣人是真的有在這就很多啦所以我想要問說在這次的電價調漲你們有沒有去預料這件事情有沒有去評估這個事情因為我不希望說像王梅花部長說什麼僱主在半夜來作業可以降低電費這種不食人間煙火的話講出來我們在今天這一題我就是想要告訴你這個事情是真實存在我想替他們發聲所以包含家福基金會執行長\n他就說其實早期說不具中低收入戶資格的社福邊緣戶約佔兩成可是這幾年都跑到三成多了那這一群弱勢族群他是沒有所謂的學雜費減免、租屋補貼啦他找的房子也是很差的甚至是衛生條件安全都不行他就是要勢必要犧牲他小朋友的受教的權益喔\n所以這幾年的通膨嚴峻加上現在又漲工資甚至當然你們說常常調漲這個基本工資可是它其實也墊高了這個低收入戶的申請門檻那就是換句話說我覺得現在這樣子的社救網它的網的這個洞好像是越來越大其實會很難開始把這些人牢牢接住所以我想這個在通膨和這個生活成本和申請補助都提高了雙重打擊之下\n他們可能如果他們一生病了他們可能連那種最基本的醫療費用負擔不了他的膨帶負擔不了甚至藥水也買不起喔所以我想要提醒部長是你們應該要對這件事情提早來做準備和因應所以您剛剛說社救法這件事情也很希望說你們可以盡快提出版本喔因為現在\n它的門檻相對是比較高,所以門檻是不是要儘速把它降低,要拜託部長,你們可以看到這個漠望世上苦人多少,這苦民所苦,我希望這一題來跟部長講一下這一個部分的話,就是剛剛跟委員報告的,那這一個社救法的這個修法我們已經要進行\n那應該很快會有這個結論然後有版本出來那第二個就是說已經已經進入到設計法的低收、中低收的那我們定期的時候調整他們的這個補貼的時候那事實上都有考慮到了好部長那請你們可以儘速提出你們的這個修法進度可不可以在這個一個禮拜內給本席進度啦對對對進度還有研議你們預計的期程可不可以都給本席好\n部長那下星期一就要調漲電費11%請問這個不利的老人之家、兒童之家、少年之家、教養院等等的電費預估會增長多少?這部分是被排除的被排除了?對,被排除了好,所以今年我看到你們的水電費共編了3463萬\n也排除那私立的部分呢公部門的沒有那私部門的也排除了這些社福機構的話是有被排除都排除掉了好那這個部分就是要請部長他們你們也來注意一下就是當這個電費一漲的時候其實跟上一題一樣就是這些弱勢族群要把他們考量在裡面所以基本上我們主要的訴求就是電費就不要漲了你們520之前不要亂做這種決定了\n那最後我要來跟部長討論一下國人自殺的現象有逐漸上升的趨勢那我想請教部長國人的自殺標準化死亡率有沒有達到衛福部預定下降的目標這個目前從委員這邊當然是在111年的話看起來是有稍微又上升所以1、2的統計數字是等於說這一個數字是回到疫情前\n部長可是我很擔心一件事喔我觀察到兒少族群的自殺是越來越嚴重喔再看下一張圖喔你看到這個圖表我們可以看到這個各年齡層的自殺率剛剛上一張不好意思上一張上一張就是上一張是全部這兩年在往上跑嘛對不對好下一張我們可以看到我們的年輕族群\n二十五到二十四歲跟二十五到四十四歲這幾年都在往上攀升而且是蠻陡峭的那我們再看下一張下一張的時候這是男性的部分也是符合大趨勢都是在上升的趨勢那再下一張女性的部分你可以看到這個年輕族群的女性走得非常的陡峭紅色的部分\n對不對所以我想要問一下你們有沒有去我很擔心這變成一個趨勢所以我想要請問一下你們有沒有去掌握這個事情然後去研究它背後的原因有沒有跟教育部就是合作如何深入校園或是針對年輕人這塊心腹的業務這部分要跟我們報告事實上我們就是發現到這個趨勢是這樣所以我們就推出一個年輕族群的這個心理衛生的諮詢的一個方案\n對 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