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00:00:51,465\n按照這個我們的組織章程的話那是不是由這個立法院院長來接任這一個董事長這個好像照他的規章程好像要經過會議吧董事會的會議來決定是嗎那還是這個執行長可能會比較清楚一點來請這個黃執行長請教一下這個按照這個基金會的章程這個慣例是不是由這個立法院院長來接任董事長\n\n3\n00:00:52,485 --> 00:01:14,739\n報告委員依照章程董事長是由董事互推產生但慣例上是的確由立法院院長來擔任立法院院長大概是這個按照慣例都是由這個立法院院長來擔任這個基金會的董事長嗎然後說按照慣例的話這個接下來這個臺灣民主基金會的董事長應該就是韓院長嗎\n\n4\n00:01:16,554 --> 00:01:37,431\n對,依照慣例是這樣那請教一下因為韓院長是哪時候接任董事的?地府董事的?報告委員在2月1號韓院長報到就任之後他就已經成為基金會的當然董事那請問一下那按照這個章程來講這個原本的這個董事長是我們的前院長這個游錫堃有院長\n\n5\n00:01:40,293 --> 00:01:56,078\n那如果這個這個這個由院長因為他這一個請辭立法院的院長嘛那當然也上市了董事的資格那現在也上市了這個基金會董事長嘛那所以現在董事長是懸空的嘛對不對那按照章程的話大概多久這個要改選董事長\n\n6\n00:01:57,691 --> 00:02:14,196\n依照章程我們必須在4月30號以前完成新任董事長的推選所以大概還剩一個月的時間嗎?大概一個月出頭那剩下這一個月的時間裡面我再請教一下執行長剩下的這個時間裡面這個召開董事會這個是由誰來召開的?是由誰主動來召開的?\n\n7\n00:02:22,399 --> 00:02:49,053\n這個是由我們外交部主動來召開的呢那還是由這一個韓院長來決定說何時要召開的報告委目前基金會有代理董事長也就是吳部長他原來是副董事長他現在是代理董事長只要代理董事長決定要開會那我們就必須要發開會通知那所以說現在這個主動權是在我們的這一個吳部長嗎\n\n8\n00:02:50,794 --> 00:03:17,703\n當然代理董事長要開會如果涉及到新任董事長的推舉我想他應該會跟韓院長商量開會時間那請教一下這個執行長那你知道說這個吳部長有跟這個韓院長有商量這個何時要召開董事會的時間了嗎我知道吳部長在2月23已經見了韓院長那已經跟韓院長提出董事長改選的事情\n\n9\n00:03:18,650 --> 00:03:28,017\n所以說這個部長找過院長了那現在就是說看院長有沒有時間或是說院長何時方便來召開這個董事會是配合這個我們韓院長的時間嗎?\n\n10\n00:03:30,067 --> 00:03:53,124\n報告委員基於尊重韓院長這個開會時間只要韓院長跟吳代理董事長講說可以開會那吳代理董事長有交代我們馬上就可以來發開會通知所以這樣聽起來沒有什麼誰卡誰的問題嘛而且很簡單現在就是說這個按照章程就是4月底之前一定要這個開會要選出新任的董事長\n\n11\n00:03:55,886 --> 00:04:11,942\n現在吳部長也去跟韓院長見過面了那我想也似乎問這個韓院長就是說何時方便因為大概要尊重他的時間嘛那尊重他的時間看韓院長哪時候方便召開這個董事會按照這個執行長講法應該是這樣的程序吧\n\n12\n00:04:13,418 --> 00:04:26,847\n因為部長也不可能是說好那我就決定說比如說4月1號我就要開這個這個董事會也不管這個韓院長的時間嘛這時間理論上這個部長應該會跟這個韓院長先喬好吧就是配合韓院長的時間韓院長我看他也是非常的忙啊\n\n13\n00:04:28,277 --> 00:04:52,964\n只要吳代理董事長交代要開會我們就會發開會通知事實上我們也都準備好了因為我們還有決算案也要來處理決算案的日期是在4月15對阿所以我現在看外界有些報導就是說在卡韓這個不讓這個韓院長接任董事長如果按照執行長這樣說明的話那我聽起來沒有什麼卡韓阿現在就是配合這一個韓院長的時間嘛只要韓院長時間可以了\n\n14\n00:04:55,365 --> 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