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00:00:11,730\n請李燕秀委員發言我請部長請薛部長\n\n2\n00:00:18,782 --> 00:00:41,462\n衛生福利部部長辛苦了一連串的事情我覺得整個衛福部其實事情也蠻多的我還是要根據這兩天發生的保齡堂的食安事件要跟您討論一下我覺得這一連串食安的事件看起來對於我們台灣是美食王國\n\n3\n00:00:42,948 --> 00:01:02,517\n我們引外國人、亞洲這些國家來都非常喜歡吃臺灣的小吃你認不認同這一連串的事件在國際上來講對國人每天外食足非常非常多你覺得對於臺灣的美食王國會不會受傷?對於這個國人,因為目前的話那損害還是控制在一個\n\n4\n00:01:03,858 --> 00:01:26,155\n我只問你說你覺得在國際上或對於國人來說你覺得美食王國也好對於這些小吃攤也好甚至是昨天發生的事一般我們都會覺得說至少在百貨公司地下街我們願意多付一點點錢去吃東西這兩天我相信很多百貨公司地下街反而是很多人不敢去的\n\n5\n00:01:26,935 --> 00:01:45,620\n所以你覺得這一連串事件對於臺灣美食王國是不是一個打擊我想如果說事件控制在一個範圍之內都不會有影響那麼大啦錯了部長這一連串的事件當然對於臺灣美食王國我不願意看它發生但是在印象上在形象上\n\n6\n00:01:46,420 --> 00:01:47,381\n第二點我要回到今天的主題這一段時間\n\n7\n00:02:14,642 --> 00:02:30,919\n我們520要上賴總統都在做健康臺灣的這個巡迴論壇特別在第一場論壇當中也提到我們兒少的安全的部分保護事項也提到說兒科醫學會提到說我們現在缺乏跨部門的統籌機制\n\n8\n00:02:34,162 --> 00:02:41,727\n這件事情是兒科醫學會提出來的當然我們現在兒童權利公約在國際審查結論的專家報告中也指出來說我們現在也應該要一個兒少權利機構的跨部會的協調部門出來可見這件事情是非常重要的我不知道在我們接下來整個修法之後\n\n9\n00:02:56,536 --> 00:03:22,156\n整個行政部會對於無論是國際審查委員的建議或者是兒科醫學會的建議我們未來怎麼去處理這一塊但是這一塊是很重要第一個我要提醒部長但是對於這整件事情的背後其實很多家長最近都還是在問我就是說我們到底中央跟地方對於整個保姆系統的管理有沒有一套更完整一致的標準指引出來\n\n10\n00:03:22,896 --> 00:03:44,870\n而這個指引是中央要跟地方常常溝通常常要去協調我們要再增加什麼樣的管理然後讓所有想進來托育保姆這個行業我們隨時都在跟著家長或環境的變動我們這個資訊都是update的我們這套指引管理是update的所以\n\n11\n00:03:46,191 --> 00:04:01,044\n這一塊接下來包括這些應該要有一個更完整中央跟地方要去做具體的對策跟討論也要有一套更完整的管理機制部長我講到這邊你認同這個完整的指引跟\n\n12\n00:04:03,897 --> 00:04:17,185\n考核機制未來會不會有?這我非常的認同現在沒有嗎?現在有,但是不夠完整但是他就是需要再跟地方逐步的去做討論\n\n13\n00:04:19,446 --> 00:04:41,153\n所以部長因為我時間不多所以彭婉如的基金會這一次講得非常好就是說我們沒有一套更完整的系統要跟中央跟地方就是說我們中央現在急著把權限丟給地方但是怎麼樣有一套更完整的系統中央跟地方常常在溝通協調因為常常進來這個職場的人可能會流動率也有\n\n14\n00:04:41,693 --> 00:04:42,434\n現在整體的系統是有\n\n15\n00:05:02,296 --> 00:05:18,424\n但是是否能夠因爲各個不同的縣市或者是因爲時間的轉變而必須要去做調整﹖那就要定﹖部長所以你不應該跟我講說現在有限制就是說你剛剛講的各地方不同\n\n16\n00:05:19,204 --> 00:05:47,382\n因地制宜也好跟著時間不同所以我才說現在都是多籌馬車的方式所以我覺得更完整的系統是有必要的所以第一個部長因為我時間到了更完整的系統更完整的指引系統中央跟地方要常交流把這些資訊更完整化是我要提的然後另外一個社工的部分的管理你們一直在講說我們現在社工其實進入率也很高但是我更認為更重要的是它的流動率非常的高\n\n17\n00:05:47,862 --> 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