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00:01:44,522\n那體育署這邊也補助600多萬的經費但是其實他招標了6次都沒有招標出去那所以最後陳其邁市長呢他就加碼高雄市的負擔把他加到2000多萬讓這一個案子可以順利的招標出去而且現在已經完工現在已經可以使用那這一個部分再感謝我們原住民委員會這邊你也要知道高雄市政府很挺這一個球場\n\n6\n00:01:45,402 --> 00:02:09,548\n那所以在這個球場現在已經可以使用那我現在也跟我們體育署也跟我們高雄市政府那我們也在設法想要來舉辦讓這一個我們原住民這麼有特色的球場可以舉辦比賽那也可以讓到時候也可以讓原住民委員會這邊知道那我們辦的各種比賽在這裡\n\n7\n00:02:10,408 --> 00:02:38,854\n那可以拓展很多這些不管是外地那甚至舉辦比較有這個國際型的比賽也可以讓他可以看到雖然在都會區那也可以看到我們這個原住民特色的這個風雨球場這個我一定要講這個是在哪裡這個球場離台積電有多近就是兩個紅綠燈就到台積電所以是非常好的環境那在這邊也邀請\n\n8\n00:02:41,387 --> 00:03:07,222\n李將主委你卸任之後來看一看來打打籃球來主委好對這個我們的屏山這個風雨球場其實在動土之前我還親自到那個地方去看因為那時候高雄市的原民會需要這個經費我親自去了解那也謝謝我們各個部會還有包括高雄市政府一直很關心原住民的這個議題我們會繼續努力\n\n9\n00:03:09,537 --> 00:03:29,033\n高雄市政府在這一個案子多出了差不多800萬的經費在這邊特別也邀請主委你剛已經說了8年了要讓給人了卸任之後來看看來打打球我很樂意到高雄走一走我的選區就是在那個地方但是再擴大一點\n\n10\n00:03:32,256 --> 00:03:59,367\n就是說其實高雄市原民會我還上一週趕快再跟他做一些討論其實原民會對於高雄的部落的特色道路的補助那對於我們這個秦河部落跟這個復興聯絡道的這些道路的補助也都有補助在這邊感謝之外呢今年度我們都市地區原住民的空間補助也有匡列大概4年10億的計畫\n\n11\n00:04:01,021 --> 00:04:18,141\n那想要請教主委齁這些內容包含聚會所文化空間部落永續還有歷史文化風貌等等的這一些內容現在地方政府可以開始申請補助了嗎?這些內容的計畫大概可以什麼時候可以開始來申請這些相關的補助?\n\n12\n00:04:18,841 --> 00:04:44,912\n跟委員報告就是的確這個是我們最新的計畫委員有注意到我們真的非常高興表示你對顏敏的議題也非常的關心我問阿布斯的所以這個部分族群主流化的公共空間這個是都市原住民第一次編列就是資本門的預算申請時間可以在下個月底之前都可以隨時提出申請是\n\n13\n00:04:46,172 --> 00:05:08,844\n那針對都市原住民的這些空間之外我這邊也提出建議吼那包含這個剛才講的這個球場其實是對於城市的觀光他是一個效益那對於我們這個都市原住民的空間的補助其實我還是建議說原委會這邊可以增加未來可能原住民的\n\n14\n00:05:10,324 --> 00:05:37,311\n這個就業的空間也就是說比如說這個場館他補助之後他可以讓可以讓委託讓我們的原住民來做這些經營那我們要朝什麼方式的經營可以跟地方政府做一些密切的合作跟討論讓這除了這個空間的補助之外呢讓他也有工作機會那是不是請主委朝這個方向來來來做一些規劃\n\n15\n00:05:38,954 --> 00:05:53,411\n因為我覺得公共設施除了蓋好之外怎麼樣讓它營運得更好而且讓族人有參與的機會這個才是我們新建公共設施很重要的就是我們在爭取的過程裡面其實就可以把這些\n\n16\n00:05:55,152 --> 00:06:20,219\n這些條件要放進去如果他有後續的自廠的計畫的話其實我們是可以多補助給他一點這一些計畫其實在高雄市政府他已經很專長在做這個的所以我也會持續的協助高雄市政府原委會來跟原民會來做這一些爭取最後根據最後一題就是根據2015年我們制定的這個博物館法第6條規定我們中央\n\n17\n00:06:24,020 --> 00:06:33,668\n為了研究原住民族文獻歷史及文物中央目的地事業主管機關應設置原住民族博物館\n\n18\n00:06:34,690 --> 00:06:52,106\n那在2016年開始選址那一共當時有8個縣市提報那高雄市政府所提報的包含無償提供我們澄清湖園區的14公頃的土地那也已經確定那從2017年選址之後\n\n19\n00:06:56,610 --> 00:07:04,213\n到2024年我們歷經了環評歷經了綜合規劃那歷經了這些都市計畫變更那歷經了國發會也建議我們原民會這邊用整體規劃分期興建的方式來興建來請教主委這一個案子的進度有沒有機會在520以前開始執行\n\n20\n00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:49,046\n首先我要謝謝高雄市政府當年尤其是陳吉市長任內的時候八個縣市都希望把博物館放在那個地方我們最有誠意那最後就是因為後來高雄市是用陳清福那塊地是作為我們新建博物館的地方所以後來在評比的時候就趕上很多的地方政府來選定高雄市來設博物館是那我跟委員報告應該\n\n21\n00:07:50,745 --> 00:07:57,145\n目前的進度應該會在陳院長卸任之前應該會做最後的核定\n\n22\n00:07:57,975 --> 00:08:20,669\n最後的核定核定之後我們再來繼續來努力這一個博物館的興建那這一個興建對高雄會造成什麼樣的觀光的效益其實也對於高雄市目前這麼多的觀光客包含高雄市你知道嗎昨天前天我們不是跑團很累我們是跑演唱會很累那\n\n23\n00:08:21,229 --> 00:08:47,506\n跑演唱會很累之餘其實對於城市的觀光對於這些比如說很多東南亞比如說很多日本、韓國的旅客都來到高雄的時候其實推展我們原住民文化其實也是非常重要的所以我們還是會持續的來推動這個原住民博物館讓它可以順利落腳在高雄那也可以一起來推動我們原住民文化謝謝\n\n24\n00:08:48,447 --> 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核定之後我們再來繼續來努力這一個博物館的興建那這一個興建對高雄會造成什麼樣的觀光的效益其實也對於高雄市目前這麼多的觀光客包含高雄市你知道嗎昨天前天我們不是跑團很累我們是跑演唱會很累那\n501229\t527506\t跑演唱會很累之餘其實對於城市的觀光對於這些比如說很多東南亞比如說很多日本、韓國的旅客都來到高雄的時候其實推展我們原住民文化其實也是非常重要的所以我們還是會持續的來推動這個原住民博物館讓它可以順利落腳在高雄那也可以一起來推動我們原住民文化謝謝\n528447\t536936\t我們也希望委員可以未來新建的費用的部分如果送到大院的時候請多多支持我們的預算你以後來參觀啦,謝謝好,謝謝李博焱委員的質詢,謝謝一將主委\n","txt":"第一次質詢原住民委員會的議題我首先我從哪裡來來跟主委還有跟我們所有委員會這邊來做一個說明\n我的選區是在左營跟楠梓高雄的左營跟楠梓我的選區佔的原住民人口佔全高雄的原住民人口有大概百分之三十七\n那所以我的選區其實在整個高雄市來講是原住民人口是多的那我的選區有一個在我有參與到的小型的建設那這個主委應該也有印象就是全國第一座的都會區的原住民的風雨球場\n原住民委員會提出400多萬的經費\n那體育署這邊也補助600多萬的經費但是其實他招標了6次都沒有招標出去那所以最後陳其邁市長呢他就加碼高雄市的負擔把他加到2000多萬讓這一個案子可以順利的招標出去而且現在已經完工現在已經可以使用那這一個部分再感謝我們原住民委員會這邊你也要知道高雄市政府很挺這一個球場\n那所以在這個球場現在已經可以使用那我現在也跟我們體育署也跟我們高雄市政府那我們也在設法想要來舉辦讓這一個我們原住民這麼有特色的球場可以舉辦比賽那也可以讓到時候也可以讓原住民委員會這邊知道那我們辦的各種比賽在這裡\n那可以拓展很多這些不管是外地那甚至舉辦比較有這個國際型的比賽也可以讓他可以看到雖然在都會區那也可以看到我們這個原住民特色的這個風雨球場這個我一定要講這個是在哪裡這個球場離台積電有多近就是兩個紅綠燈就到台積電所以是非常好的環境那在這邊也邀請\n李將主委你卸任之後來看一看來打打籃球來主委好對這個我們的屏山這個風雨球場其實在動土之前我還親自到那個地方去看因為那時候高雄市的原民會需要這個經費我親自去了解那也謝謝我們各個部會還有包括高雄市政府一直很關心原住民的這個議題我們會繼續努力\n高雄市政府在這一個案子多出了差不多800萬的經費在這邊特別也邀請主委你剛已經說了8年了要讓給人了卸任之後來看看來打打球我很樂意到高雄走一走我的選區就是在那個地方但是再擴大一點\n就是說其實高雄市原民會我還上一週趕快再跟他做一些討論其實原民會對於高雄的部落的特色道路的補助那對於我們這個秦河部落跟這個復興聯絡道的這些道路的補助也都有補助在這邊感謝之外呢今年度我們都市地區原住民的空間補助也有匡列大概4年10億的計畫\n那想要請教主委齁這些內容包含聚會所文化空間部落永續還有歷史文化風貌等等的這一些內容現在地方政府可以開始申請補助了嗎?這些內容的計畫大概可以什麼時候可以開始來申請這些相關的補助?\n跟委員報告就是的確這個是我們最新的計畫委員有注意到我們真的非常高興表示你對顏敏的議題也非常的關心我問阿布斯的所以這個部分族群主流化的公共空間這個是都市原住民第一次編列就是資本門的預算申請時間可以在下個月底之前都可以隨時提出申請是\n那針對都市原住民的這些空間之外我這邊也提出建議吼那包含這個剛才講的這個球場其實是對於城市的觀光他是一個效益那對於我們這個都市原住民的空間的補助其實我還是建議說原委會這邊可以增加未來可能原住民的\n這個就業的空間也就是說比如說這個場館他補助之後他可以讓可以讓委託讓我們的原住民來做這些經營那我們要朝什麼方式的經營可以跟地方政府做一些密切的合作跟討論讓這除了這個空間的補助之外呢讓他也有工作機會那是不是請主委朝這個方向來來來做一些規劃\n因為我覺得公共設施除了蓋好之外怎麼樣讓它營運得更好而且讓族人有參與的機會這個才是我們新建公共設施很重要的就是我們在爭取的過程裡面其實就可以把這些\n這些條件要放進去如果他有後續的自廠的計畫的話其實我們是可以多補助給他一點這一些計畫其實在高雄市政府他已經很專長在做這個的所以我也會持續的協助高雄市政府原委會來跟原民會來做這一些爭取最後根據最後一題就是根據2015年我們制定的這個博物館法第6條規定我們中央\n為了研究原住民族文獻歷史及文物中央目的地事業主管機關應設置原住民族博物館\n那在2016年開始選址那一共當時有8個縣市提報那高雄市政府所提報的包含無償提供我們澄清湖園區的14公頃的土地那也已經確定那從2017年選址之後\n到2024年我們歷經了環評歷經了綜合規劃那歷經了這些都市計畫變更那歷經了國發會也建議我們原民會這邊用整體規劃分期興建的方式來興建來請教主委這一個案子的進度有沒有機會在520以前開始執行\n首先我要謝謝高雄市政府當年尤其是陳吉市長任內的時候八個縣市都希望把博物館放在那個地方我們最有誠意那最後就是因為後來高雄市是用陳清福那塊地是作為我們新建博物館的地方所以後來在評比的時候就趕上很多的地方政府來選定高雄市來設博物館是那我跟委員報告應該\n目前的進度應該會在陳院長卸任之前應該會做最後的核定\n最後的核定 核定之後我們再來繼續來努力這一個博物館的興建那這一個興建對高雄會造成什麼樣的觀光的效益其實也對於高雄市目前這麼多的觀光客包含高雄市你知道嗎昨天前天我們不是跑團很累我們是跑演唱會很累那\n跑演唱會很累之餘其實對於城市的觀光對於這些比如說很多東南亞比如說很多日本、韓國的旅客都來到高雄的時候其實推展我們原住民文化其實也是非常重要的所以我們還是會持續的來推動這個原住民博物館讓它可以順利落腳在高雄那也可以一起來推動我們原住民文化謝謝\n我們也希望委員可以未來新建的費用的部分如果送到大院的時候請多多支持我們的預算你以後來參觀啦,謝謝好,謝謝李博焱委員的質詢,謝謝一將主委\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.587 --> 00:06.969\n第一次質詢原住民委員會的議題我首先我從哪裡來來跟主委還有跟我們所有委員會這邊來做一個說明\n\n00:27.987 --> 00:42.670\n我的選區是在左營跟楠梓高雄的左營跟楠梓我的選區佔的原住民人口佔全高雄的原住民人口有大概百分之三十七\n\n00:43.649 --> 01:01.869\n那所以我的選區其實在整個高雄市來講是原住民人口是多的那我的選區有一個在我有參與到的小型的建設那這個主委應該也有印象就是全國第一座的都會區的原住民的風雨球場\n\n01:02.830 --> 01:04.032\n原住民委員會提出400多萬的經費\n\n01:17.093 --> 01:44.522\n那體育署這邊也補助600多萬的經費但是其實他招標了6次都沒有招標出去那所以最後陳其邁市長呢他就加碼高雄市的負擔把他加到2000多萬讓這一個案子可以順利的招標出去而且現在已經完工現在已經可以使用那這一個部分再感謝我們原住民委員會這邊你也要知道高雄市政府很挺這一個球場\n\n01:45.402 --> 02:09.548\n那所以在這個球場現在已經可以使用那我現在也跟我們體育署也跟我們高雄市政府那我們也在設法想要來舉辦讓這一個我們原住民這麼有特色的球場可以舉辦比賽那也可以讓到時候也可以讓原住民委員會這邊知道那我們辦的各種比賽在這裡\n\n02:10.408 --> 02:38.854\n那可以拓展很多這些不管是外地那甚至舉辦比較有這個國際型的比賽也可以讓他可以看到雖然在都會區那也可以看到我們這個原住民特色的這個風雨球場這個我一定要講這個是在哪裡這個球場離台積電有多近就是兩個紅綠燈就到台積電所以是非常好的環境那在這邊也邀請\n\n02:41.387 --> 03:07.222\n李將主委你卸任之後來看一看來打打籃球來主委好對這個我們的屏山這個風雨球場其實在動土之前我還親自到那個地方去看因為那時候高雄市的原民會需要這個經費我親自去了解那也謝謝我們各個部會還有包括高雄市政府一直很關心原住民的這個議題我們會繼續努力\n\n03:09.537 --> 03:29.033\n高雄市政府在這一個案子多出了差不多800萬的經費在這邊特別也邀請主委你剛已經說了8年了要讓給人了卸任之後來看看來打打球我很樂意到高雄走一走我的選區就是在那個地方但是再擴大一點\n\n03:32.256 --> 03:59.367\n就是說其實高雄市原民會我還上一週趕快再跟他做一些討論其實原民會對於高雄的部落的特色道路的補助那對於我們這個秦河部落跟這個復興聯絡道的這些道路的補助也都有補助在這邊感謝之外呢今年度我們都市地區原住民的空間補助也有匡列大概4年10億的計畫\n\n04:01.021 --> 04:18.141\n那想要請教主委齁這些內容包含聚會所文化空間部落永續還有歷史文化風貌等等的這一些內容現在地方政府可以開始申請補助了嗎?這些內容的計畫大概可以什麼時候可以開始來申請這些相關的補助?\n\n04:18.841 --> 04:44.912\n跟委員報告就是的確這個是我們最新的計畫委員有注意到我們真的非常高興表示你對顏敏的議題也非常的關心我問阿布斯的所以這個部分族群主流化的公共空間這個是都市原住民第一次編列就是資本門的預算申請時間可以在下個月底之前都可以隨時提出申請是\n\n04:46.172 --> 05:08.844\n那針對都市原住民的這些空間之外我這邊也提出建議吼那包含這個剛才講的這個球場其實是對於城市的觀光他是一個效益那對於我們這個都市原住民的空間的補助其實我還是建議說原委會這邊可以增加未來可能原住民的\n\n05:10.324 --> 05:37.311\n這個就業的空間也就是說比如說這個場館他補助之後他可以讓可以讓委託讓我們的原住民來做這些經營那我們要朝什麼方式的經營可以跟地方政府做一些密切的合作跟討論讓這除了這個空間的補助之外呢讓他也有工作機會那是不是請主委朝這個方向來來來做一些規劃\n\n05:38.954 --> 05:53.411\n因為我覺得公共設施除了蓋好之外怎麼樣讓它營運得更好而且讓族人有參與的機會這個才是我們新建公共設施很重要的就是我們在爭取的過程裡面其實就可以把這些\n\n05:55.152 --> 06:20.219\n這些條件要放進去如果他有後續的自廠的計畫的話其實我們是可以多補助給他一點這一些計畫其實在高雄市政府他已經很專長在做這個的所以我也會持續的協助高雄市政府原委會來跟原民會來做這一些爭取最後根據最後一題就是根據2015年我們制定的這個博物館法第6條規定我們中央\n\n06:24.020 --> 06:33.668\n為了研究原住民族文獻歷史及文物中央目的地事業主管機關應設置原住民族博物館\n\n06:34.690 --> 06:52.106\n那在2016年開始選址那一共當時有8個縣市提報那高雄市政府所提報的包含無償提供我們澄清湖園區的14公頃的土地那也已經確定那從2017年選址之後\n\n06:56.610 --> 07:04.213\n到2024年我們歷經了環評歷經了綜合規劃那歷經了這些都市計畫變更那歷經了國發會也建議我們原民會這邊用整體規劃分期興建的方式來興建來請教主委這一個案子的進度有沒有機會在520以前開始執行\n\n07:22.629 --> 07:49.046\n首先我要謝謝高雄市政府當年尤其是陳吉市長任內的時候八個縣市都希望把博物館放在那個地方我們最有誠意那最後就是因為後來高雄市是用陳清福那塊地是作為我們新建博物館的地方所以後來在評比的時候就趕上很多的地方政府來選定高雄市來設博物館是那我跟委員報告應該\n\n07:50.745 --> 07:57.145\n目前的進度應該會在陳院長卸任之前應該會做最後的核定\n\n07:57.975 --> 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