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00:02:32,770\n那我也必須肯定行政院在我上次提出來之後有針對所謂的升息提出政策性的一些補貼這個就是所謂的配套嘛針對比如說我們有針對什麼青年安家貸款的利息補貼我們對這個受產業衝擊影響景氣比較不好的中小企業的企業貸款我們有補貼對但是呢我認為\n\n7\n00:02:44,019 --> 00:02:44,239\n主委,您認為呢?\n\n8\n00:03:00,642 --> 00:03:24,807\n發言委員,我想因為包括物價也好或是什麼,我們都有一個穩定物價小組,那每個月也都會開會。我知道啊,開會完之後行政院就拍板盯案,所以今天開始嘛,今天4月1號嘛。是是是。所以我才會說,電價,我剛一開始都說我可以理解不得不漲的一個負擔、承擔,這是我們必須要去承擔,跟世界各國一樣還有那個國際燃料的價格大漲。\n\n9\n00:03:27,268 --> 00:03:27,308\n何欣純\n\n10\n00:03:42,293 --> 00:03:42,453\n何欣純\n\n11\n00:04:01,969 --> 00:04:06,410\n在外他面對的是什麼三餐問題嘛所以早餐店漲那小吃飲食店也漲那對他來講一天家總起來你知道嗎他可能過去要花200塊現在要花300塊我這個是用中南部的價格還不是台北的價格\n\n12\n00:04:21,463 --> 00:04:30,290\n以年輕人的說法我以前是月底就要吃土了我可能現在不用到月底我可能提前一個禮拜可能就要面對吃土的狀況這個是我們現在年輕人的受到影響\n\n13\n00:04:36,465 --> 00:04:52,584\n這影響了什麼?年輕的上班族影響的是雙薪家庭有小孩的家庭那我不要講只有年輕人我們明年台灣要邁入超高齡社會每五個人就有一位高齡者你知道對高齡者的家庭又是如何影響嗎?通膨高物價\n\n14\n00:04:56,108 --> 00:05:13,304\n這個資料不是我自己創造的,這個資料是媒體的一個專題報導,那都是有平均,因為包括都是足跡總署的一些家庭收支調查。最窮的後20%,就是五分之一的家庭裡面,有六成是老年家庭,半數的老人都是窮人。\n\n15\n00:05:14,085 --> 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