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00:01:00,669\n所以今天這個召委也特別排了這樣子的一個專題報告那本席在這邊先請教一下就是因為我們知道這個車站往往都是人群聚集最多的地方因為這個交通運輸就是巔峰時期很多鄉親在搭車的時候車站就是人最多的地方那我們也看到\n\n4\n00:01:01,449 --> 00:01:25,507\n國外曾經有在這個豪大雨的時候就是停放在月台的這個戰友乘客列車被這個豪雨淹沒的這種意外發生所以在針對這樣的一個狀況我們當然不希望發生台灣不希望發生這樣的狀況可是我們還是要有就是掀起的一個預防跟做一個就是準備\n\n5\n00:01:26,187 --> 00:01:45,802\n那在這個部分我們交通部有什麼樣的一個應變措施或規劃是不是可以做一下說明好那個鐵公路的車站的基礎設施第一個當然是防淹水這是我們最重要的部分那他們過去是對於這些如果真的有那種狀況他們有SOP\n\n6\n00:01:46,542 --> 00:01:47,582\n董事長稍微講一下台鐵的部分好不好\n\n7\n00:02:15,286 --> 00:02:40,901\n社區委員報告那個我們在各戰場的這個防淹水的措施都有持續在做了這是基本的那至於這個發生了這種淹水或者是其他這種有有防災情形的話我們現在都有進行這個各項的演練那這個我們在年度計畫或者是在我們的體驗演習裡面都有\n\n8\n00:02:41,681 --> 00:03:01,494\n那至於這個我們其他相關的硬體設施像英哥桃園軌道我舉這個例子這個在去年那鐵道局已經協助我們把原來的單一的水路給它改成兩個兩邊的水路那像這種我們持續台鐵這邊都有在進行\n\n9\n00:03:02,441 --> 00:03:23,988\n是我想這個應變就是要有一定的SOP這個很重要那還有平常的一個演練也很重要那我是不曉得說針對這方面我們有固定的一個演練嗎有演習有有我們有年度的然後也有特殊這個針對特殊情形的有特別加強的演練\n\n10\n00:03:24,853 --> 00:03:45,222\n是,我想這個超前部署做這個災防的演練跟應變是非常的一個重要那再來就是說我想在整個交通運輸方面就是有關於這個邊坡的一個災害的一個預防也是非常的一個重要因為在過去我們也看到很多\n\n11\n00:03:45,822 --> 00:03:45,982\n陳素月議員\n\n12\n00:04:04,301 --> 00:04:05,762\n鐵道局今年有送出鐵路邊坡維護與管理規範草案,這部分的進度如何?\n\n13\n00:04:23,274 --> 00:04:49,515\n報告委員現在這個草案現在在審查當中在審查當中那我請教一下部長就是說鐵路有提出這樣子的一個草規範草案那我們公路國道的部分是不是也有相關的一個規範應該有吧本來就有本來就有啦鞭破監測的規範跟委員報告我們國道鞭破的規範是很早就訂定的\n\n14\n00:05:07,551 --> 00:05:14,135\n張化線的部分主要是國道一號路體一邊坡而已所以他大概都是低幾坡是沒有問題的是公走的\n\n15\n00:05:31,458 --> 00:05:45,544\n跟回報那個就是說隧道有隧道的監測的機制那因為我們邊坡的話基本上就是說公路的邊坡的話我們都有做相關的這一些定性定量的分析而且依照他們的歷史的一些記錄分為這個ABCD\n\n16\n00:05:47,085 --> 00:05:50,427\n總共省道公路列管1700處全國優先關注46處每個公路段在轄區內列管1700處每週經常性巡查\n\n17\n00:06:04,130 --> 00:06:04,831\n報告委員基本上無人機\n\n18\n00:06:33,686 --> 00:06:37,157\n在鐵路流來運用無人機也是可行也是可以的\n\n19\n00:06:38,285 --> 00:07:03,342\n目前還沒有嗎目前是有些特殊的比如說要去看那個鐵路橋樑他們可以用無人機到那個就近去看比較細的部分就橋樑的部分橋樑的部分還是需要我們也希望就是說在整個監測的部分我們能夠就是透過科技的一個運用能夠更精細然後更能夠掌握這個狀況然後確保這整個行車的一個安全\n\n20\n00:07:06,144 --> 00:07:06,424\n陳素月議員\n\n21\n00:07:28,141 --> 00:07:28,161\n是﹖\n\n22\n00:07:56,838 --> 00:08:20,556\n各位報告現在全國的這一個各類的橋樑第一個部分的話就要求一定要做年度的檢測那年度檢測現在幾乎各縣市政府已經都接近百分之百做完檢測那現在確實就是說像我們年度在做這個這個截止時間內就是百分之七十幾的這一個檢測完以後有做維護\n\n23\n00:08:21,357 --> 00:08:45,206\n那其他的部分就是說還沒完成的因為有一些的這個維護的工作他要做比較久所以他的時間就是說在我們截止時間他還沒完成所以我們還沒給他就是說這個解列不過就是說還沒有做完的部分的話其實我們都有要求就是說各縣市政府其實就是說要這個我們做列管然後另外其實發文到縣市政府的時候還複資給他們的那個縣市首長請他們也要督促\n\n24\n00:08:45,942 --> 00:09:06,213\n是我想這個橋樑結構的安全當然就是它的先決條件可能就是當初在新造新建的時候的這個施工品質或者是之後的維護的狀況那當然還有一個外部的因素可能就是涉及到整個河川的治理是不是有稻採砂石或者是說\n\n25\n00:09:06,893 --> 00:09:07,213\n姜文貴議員\n\n26\n00:09:26,234 --> 00:09:53,190\n我們目前第一個就是我們自己的橋樑是鐵工屋這個是都他們的SOP都很完整那過去就是縣市政務的這個橋樑部分那我們現在透過開始做這個橋樑的評鑑剛才談到的就是第一個是這個檢測率他有沒有幾乎已經快百分之一百了每人都會檢測了第二個就是剛才談到維修率還差23%主要有的是經費問題\n\n27\n00:09:54,631 --> 00:10:20,769\n所以我們也鼓勵他比如說申請生活圈的計畫趕快來做一些這個維修等等的那現在整個我們現在是公路橋、鐵路橋還把人形的都放進來所以全國就是剛剛委員所看到的這個系統裡面都可以已經可以搜尋也就是說他的資訊都公開的也大概知道各個縣市的這個比如說他們維修率、檢測率是多少都知道\n\n28\n00:10:21,209 --> 00:10:45,050\n那我想這樣也是一個公開的程序讓很多人了解各縣市政府有沒有一個積極的作為對那剛剛由部長的回答裡面當然我們也有聽出一個重點就是說這個橋樑有不同的管理單位有縣市政府也有我們交通部可能就是高工局或者是鐵路局的鐵路橋樑那我剛剛有提到的這個蘇澳大橋那個又屬於港務局\n\n29\n00:10:45,871 --> 00:11:06,961\n所以對於這不同的單位的一個管理的橋樑那我們這個交通部應該是最高的一個管理機關所以我們是不是也應該要就是負起統籌監督的一個責任要做整體的一個督促跟督導那我們的這個橋樑安全能夠更安全\n\n30\n00:11:07,341 --> 00:11:28,844\n目前就是全國都納管了包括地方政委納管全部都全部都有納管那剛剛我有提到就是說那個有關就是河川的部分其實這部分我為什麼會提到這個是因為我們有鄉親反映我們地方相關的大橋就是有疑似就是上下游的這個沙石的這個部分\n\n31\n00:11:29,224 --> 00:11:29,524\n主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4230\t7012\t謝謝主席 請主席邀請王部長請王部長村委長\n12664\t37891\t部長早安我們知道現在這個極端氣候的異常所以常常飛颱風期間也會有這個強降雨那這個強降雨再來這個暴雨對於這個交通運輸也會造成很大的一個衝擊所以對於整個就是在極端氣候下對於這個交通運輸的相關的一個災防預警也相對的非常的重要\n38431\t60669\t所以今天這個召委也特別排了這樣子的一個專題報告那本席在這邊先請教一下就是因為我們知道這個車站往往都是人群聚集最多的地方因為這個交通運輸就是巔峰時期很多鄉親在搭車的時候車站就是人最多的地方那我們也看到\n61449\t85507\t國外曾經有在這個豪大雨的時候就是停放在月台的這個戰友乘客列車被這個豪雨淹沒的這種意外發生所以在針對這樣的一個狀況我們當然不希望發生台灣不希望發生這樣的狀況可是我們還是要有就是掀起的一個預防跟做一個就是準備\n86187\t105802\t那在這個部分我們交通部有什麼樣的一個應變措施或規劃是不是可以做一下說明好 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我想這個橋樑結構的安全當然就是它的先決條件可能就是當初在新造新建的時候的這個施工品質或者是之後的維護的狀況那當然還有一個外部的因素可能就是涉及到整個河川的治理是不是有稻採砂石或者是說\n546893\t547213\t姜文貴議員\n566234\t593190\t我們目前第一個就是我們自己的橋樑是鐵工屋這個是都他們的SOP都很完整那過去就是縣市政務的這個橋樑部分那我們現在透過開始做這個橋樑的評鑑剛才談到的就是第一個是這個檢測率他有沒有幾乎已經快百分之一百了每人都會檢測了第二個就是剛才談到維修率還差23%主要有的是經費問題\n594631\t620769\t所以我們也鼓勵他比如說申請生活圈的計畫趕快來做一些這個維修等等的那現在整個我們現在是公路橋、鐵路橋還把人形的都放進來所以全國就是剛剛委員所看到的這個系統裡面都可以已經可以搜尋也就是說他的資訊都公開的也大概知道各個縣市的這個比如說他們維修率、檢測率是多少都知道\n621209\t645050\t那我想這樣也是一個公開的程序讓很多人了解各縣市政府有沒有一個積極的作為對那剛剛由部長的回答裡面當然我們也有聽出一個重點就是說這個橋樑有不同的管理單位有縣市政府也有我們交通部可能就是高工局或者是鐵路局的鐵路橋樑那我剛剛有提到的這個蘇澳大橋那個又屬於港務局\n645871\t666961\t所以對於這不同的單位的一個管理的橋樑那我們這個交通部應該是最高的一個管理機關所以我們是不是也應該要就是負起統籌監督的一個責任要做整體的一個督促跟督導那我們的這個橋樑安全能夠更安全\n667341\t688844\t目前就是全國都納管了包括地方政委納管全部都 全部都有納管那剛剛我有提到就是說那個有關就是河川的部分其實這部分我為什麼會提到這個是因為我們有鄉親反映我們地方相關的大橋就是有疑似就是上下游的這個沙石的這個部分\n689224\t689524\t主席\n","txt":"謝謝主席 請主席邀請王部長請王部長村委長\n部長早安我們知道現在這個極端氣候的異常所以常常飛颱風期間也會有這個強降雨那這個強降雨再來這個暴雨對於這個交通運輸也會造成很大的一個衝擊所以對於整個就是在極端氣候下對於這個交通運輸的相關的一個災防預警也相對的非常的重要\n所以今天這個召委也特別排了這樣子的一個專題報告那本席在這邊先請教一下就是因為我們知道這個車站往往都是人群聚集最多的地方因為這個交通運輸就是巔峰時期很多鄉親在搭車的時候車站就是人最多的地方那我們也看到\n國外曾經有在這個豪大雨的時候就是停放在月台的這個戰友乘客列車被這個豪雨淹沒的這種意外發生所以在針對這樣的一個狀況我們當然不希望發生台灣不希望發生這樣的狀況可是我們還是要有就是掀起的一個預防跟做一個就是準備\n那在這個部分我們交通部有什麼樣的一個應變措施或規劃是不是可以做一下說明好 那個鐵公路的車站的基礎設施第一個當然是防淹水這是我們最重要的部分那他們過去是對於這些如果真的有那種狀況他們有SOP\n董事長稍微講一下台鐵的部分好不好\n社區委員報告那個我們在各戰場的這個防淹水的措施都有持續在做了這是基本的那至於這個發生了這種淹水或者是其他這種有有防災情形的話我們現在都有進行這個各項的演練那這個我們在年度計畫或者是在我們的體驗演習裡面都有\n那至於這個我們其他相關的硬體設施像英哥桃園軌道我舉這個例子這個在去年那鐵道局已經協助我們把原來的單一的水路給它改成兩個兩邊的水路那像這種我們持續台鐵這邊都有在進行\n是我想這個應變就是要有一定的SOP這個很重要那還有平常的一個演練也很重要那我是不曉得說針對這方面我們有固定的一個演練嗎有演習有有我們有年度的然後也有特殊這個針對特殊情形的有特別加強的演練\n是,我想這個超前部署做這個災防的演練跟應變是非常的一個重要那再來就是說我想在整個交通運輸方面就是有關於這個邊坡的一個災害的一個預防也是非常的一個重要因為在過去我們也看到很多\n陳素月議員\n鐵道局今年有送出鐵路邊坡維護與管理規範草案,這部分的進度如何?\n報告委員現在這個草案現在在審查當中在審查當中那我請教一下部長就是說鐵路有提出這樣子的一個草規範草案那我們公路國道的部分是不是也有相關的一個規範應該有吧本來就有本來就有啦鞭破監測的規範跟委員報告我們國道鞭破的規範是很早就訂定的\n張嬅縣\n張化線的部分主要是國道一號路體一邊坡而已所以他大概都是低幾坡是沒有問題的是公走的\n跟回報那個就是說隧道有隧道的監測的機制那因為我們邊坡的話基本上就是說公路的邊坡的話我們都有做相關的這一些定性定量的分析而且依照他們的歷史的一些記錄分為這個ABCD\n總共省道公路列管1700處全國優先關注46處每個公路段在轄區內列管1700處每週經常性巡查\n報告委員 基本上無人機\n在鐵路流來運用無人機也是可行也是可以的\n目前還沒有嗎目前是有些特殊的比如說要去看那個鐵路橋樑他們可以用無人機到那個就近去看比較細的部分就橋樑的部分橋樑的部分還是需要我們也希望就是說在整個監測的部分我們能夠就是透過科技的一個運用能夠更精細然後更能夠掌握這個狀況然後確保這整個行車的一個安全\n陳素月議員\n是﹖\n各位報告現在全國的這一個各類的橋樑第一個部分的話就要求一定要做年度的檢測那年度檢測現在幾乎各縣市政府已經都接近百分之百做完檢測那現在確實就是說像我們年度在做這個這個截止時間內就是百分之七十幾的這一個檢測完以後有做維護\n那其他的部分就是說還沒完成的因為有一些的這個維護的工作他要做比較久所以他的時間就是說在我們截止時間他還沒完成所以我們還沒給他就是說這個解列不過就是說還沒有做完的部分的話其實我們都有要求就是說各縣市政府其實就是說要這個我們做列管然後另外其實發文到縣市政府的時候還複資給他們的那個縣市首長請他們也要督促\n是 我想這個橋樑結構的安全當然就是它的先決條件可能就是當初在新造新建的時候的這個施工品質或者是之後的維護的狀況那當然還有一個外部的因素可能就是涉及到整個河川的治理是不是有稻採砂石或者是說\n姜文貴議員\n我們目前第一個就是我們自己的橋樑是鐵工屋這個是都他們的SOP都很完整那過去就是縣市政務的這個橋樑部分那我們現在透過開始做這個橋樑的評鑑剛才談到的就是第一個是這個檢測率他有沒有幾乎已經快百分之一百了每人都會檢測了第二個就是剛才談到維修率還差23%主要有的是經費問題\n所以我們也鼓勵他比如說申請生活圈的計畫趕快來做一些這個維修等等的那現在整個我們現在是公路橋、鐵路橋還把人形的都放進來所以全國就是剛剛委員所看到的這個系統裡面都可以已經可以搜尋也就是說他的資訊都公開的也大概知道各個縣市的這個比如說他們維修率、檢測率是多少都知道\n那我想這樣也是一個公開的程序讓很多人了解各縣市政府有沒有一個積極的作為對那剛剛由部長的回答裡面當然我們也有聽出一個重點就是說這個橋樑有不同的管理單位有縣市政府也有我們交通部可能就是高工局或者是鐵路局的鐵路橋樑那我剛剛有提到的這個蘇澳大橋那個又屬於港務局\n所以對於這不同的單位的一個管理的橋樑那我們這個交通部應該是最高的一個管理機關所以我們是不是也應該要就是負起統籌監督的一個責任要做整體的一個督促跟督導那我們的這個橋樑安全能夠更安全\n目前就是全國都納管了包括地方政委納管全部都 全部都有納管那剛剛我有提到就是說那個有關就是河川的部分其實這部分我為什麼會提到這個是因為我們有鄉親反映我們地方相關的大橋就是有疑似就是上下游的這個沙石的這個部分\n主席\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.230 --> 00:07.012\n謝謝主席請主席邀請王部長請王部長村委長\n\n00:12.664 --> 00:37.891\n部長早安我們知道現在這個極端氣候的異常所以常常飛颱風期間也會有這個強降雨那這個強降雨再來這個暴雨對於這個交通運輸也會造成很大的一個衝擊所以對於整個就是在極端氣候下對於這個交通運輸的相關的一個災防預警也相對的非常的重要\n\n00:38.431 --> 01:00.669\n所以今天這個召委也特別排了這樣子的一個專題報告那本席在這邊先請教一下就是因為我們知道這個車站往往都是人群聚集最多的地方因為這個交通運輸就是巔峰時期很多鄉親在搭車的時候車站就是人最多的地方那我們也看到\n\n01:01.449 --> 01:25.507\n國外曾經有在這個豪大雨的時候就是停放在月台的這個戰友乘客列車被這個豪雨淹沒的這種意外發生所以在針對這樣的一個狀況我們當然不希望發生台灣不希望發生這樣的狀況可是我們還是要有就是掀起的一個預防跟做一個就是準備\n\n01:26.187 --> 01:45.802\n那在這個部分我們交通部有什麼樣的一個應變措施或規劃是不是可以做一下說明好那個鐵公路的車站的基礎設施第一個當然是防淹水這是我們最重要的部分那他們過去是對於這些如果真的有那種狀況他們有SOP\n\n01:46.542 --> 01:47.582\n董事長稍微講一下台鐵的部分好不好\n\n02:15.286 --> 02:40.901\n社區委員報告那個我們在各戰場的這個防淹水的措施都有持續在做了這是基本的那至於這個發生了這種淹水或者是其他這種有有防災情形的話我們現在都有進行這個各項的演練那這個我們在年度計畫或者是在我們的體驗演習裡面都有\n\n02:41.681 --> 03:01.494\n那至於這個我們其他相關的硬體設施像英哥桃園軌道我舉這個例子這個在去年那鐵道局已經協助我們把原來的單一的水路給它改成兩個兩邊的水路那像這種我們持續台鐵這邊都有在進行\n\n03:02.441 --> 03:23.988\n是我想這個應變就是要有一定的SOP這個很重要那還有平常的一個演練也很重要那我是不曉得說針對這方面我們有固定的一個演練嗎有演習有有我們有年度的然後也有特殊這個針對特殊情形的有特別加強的演練\n\n03:24.853 --> 03:45.222\n是,我想這個超前部署做這個災防的演練跟應變是非常的一個重要那再來就是說我想在整個交通運輸方面就是有關於這個邊坡的一個災害的一個預防也是非常的一個重要因為在過去我們也看到很多\n\n03:45.822 --> 03:45.982\n陳素月議員\n\n04:04.301 --> 04:05.762\n鐵道局今年有送出鐵路邊坡維護與管理規範草案,這部分的進度如何?\n\n04:23.274 --> 04:49.515\n報告委員現在這個草案現在在審查當中在審查當中那我請教一下部長就是說鐵路有提出這樣子的一個草規範草案那我們公路國道的部分是不是也有相關的一個規範應該有吧本來就有本來就有啦鞭破監測的規範跟委員報告我們國道鞭破的規範是很早就訂定的\n\n05:07.551 --> 05:14.135\n張化線的部分主要是國道一號路體一邊坡而已所以他大概都是低幾坡是沒有問題的是公走的\n\n05:31.458 --> 05:45.544\n跟回報那個就是說隧道有隧道的監測的機制那因為我們邊坡的話基本上就是說公路的邊坡的話我們都有做相關的這一些定性定量的分析而且依照他們的歷史的一些記錄分為這個ABCD\n\n05:47.085 --> 05:50.427\n總共省道公路列管1700處全國優先關注46處每個公路段在轄區內列管1700處每週經常性巡查\n\n06:04.130 --> 06:04.831\n報告委員基本上無人機\n\n06:33.686 --> 06:37.157\n在鐵路流來運用無人機也是可行也是可以的\n\n06:38.285 --> 07:03.342\n目前還沒有嗎目前是有些特殊的比如說要去看那個鐵路橋樑他們可以用無人機到那個就近去看比較細的部分就橋樑的部分橋樑的部分還是需要我們也希望就是說在整個監測的部分我們能夠就是透過科技的一個運用能夠更精細然後更能夠掌握這個狀況然後確保這整個行車的一個安全\n\n07:06.144 --> 07:06.424\n陳素月議員\n\n07:28.141 --> 07:28.161\n是﹖\n\n07:56.838 --> 08:20.556\n各位報告現在全國的這一個各類的橋樑第一個部分的話就要求一定要做年度的檢測那年度檢測現在幾乎各縣市政府已經都接近百分之百做完檢測那現在確實就是說像我們年度在做這個這個截止時間內就是百分之七十幾的這一個檢測完以後有做維護\n\n08:21.357 --> 08:45.206\n那其他的部分就是說還沒完成的因為有一些的這個維護的工作他要做比較久所以他的時間就是說在我們截止時間他還沒完成所以我們還沒給他就是說這個解列不過就是說還沒有做完的部分的話其實我們都有要求就是說各縣市政府其實就是說要這個我們做列管然後另外其實發文到縣市政府的時候還複資給他們的那個縣市首長請他們也要督促\n\n08:45.942 --> 09:06.213\n是我想這個橋樑結構的安全當然就是它的先決條件可能就是當初在新造新建的時候的這個施工品質或者是之後的維護的狀況那當然還有一個外部的因素可能就是涉及到整個河川的治理是不是有稻採砂石或者是說\n\n09:06.893 --> 09:07.213\n姜文貴議員\n\n09:26.234 --> 09:53.190\n我們目前第一個就是我們自己的橋樑是鐵工屋這個是都他們的SOP都很完整那過去就是縣市政務的這個橋樑部分那我們現在透過開始做這個橋樑的評鑑剛才談到的就是第一個是這個檢測率他有沒有幾乎已經快百分之一百了每人都會檢測了第二個就是剛才談到維修率還差23%主要有的是經費問題\n\n09:54.631 --> 10:20.769\n所以我們也鼓勵他比如說申請生活圈的計畫趕快來做一些這個維修等等的那現在整個我們現在是公路橋、鐵路橋還把人形的都放進來所以全國就是剛剛委員所看到的這個系統裡面都可以已經可以搜尋也就是說他的資訊都公開的也大概知道各個縣市的這個比如說他們維修率、檢測率是多少都知道\n\n10:21.209 --> 10:45.050\n那我想這樣也是一個公開的程序讓很多人了解各縣市政府有沒有一個積極的作為對那剛剛由部長的回答裡面當然我們也有聽出一個重點就是說這個橋樑有不同的管理單位有縣市政府也有我們交通部可能就是高工局或者是鐵路局的鐵路橋樑那我剛剛有提到的這個蘇澳大橋那個又屬於港務局\n\n10:45.871 --> 11:06.961\n所以對於這不同的單位的一個管理的橋樑那我們這個交通部應該是最高的一個管理機關所以我們是不是也應該要就是負起統籌監督的一個責任要做整體的一個督促跟督導那我們的這個橋樑安全能夠更安全\n\n11:07.341 --> 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