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00:01:46,394\n對,這是我們原住民的權益我們一定要保障嘛那本期在內政委員會我對原住民都是非常的注重所以我過去曾經爭取了不管我們原住民的經費也好原住民的權益、原住民的交易我都是極力來推動那我之前爭取我們山英部落1438萬的經費就是設置一個聚會所還有無線的網路的建置\n\n6\n00:01:52,279 --> 00:02:17,251\n那在疫情期間因為我們很多原住民的朋友也沒辦法說到外面所以透過這無線的網路的建置那我本席比較關心的就整體的全章工程在109年10月完工距離已經5年左右那目前的執行的成效為何那請主委來做說明\n\n7\n00:02:18,492 --> 00:02:39,694\n最新的進度關於無限寬頻的部分提供給當地居民使用的我們在2019年7月28號就已經完成了包括委員一直關心的部落聚會所比這個更早使用所以現在目前這個設施都有充分的讓我們部落來做使用\n\n8\n00:02:40,908 --> 00:02:59,217\n所以在這幾年我們原民會對我們原住民的族人真的也是滿照顧的所以當初我們在推動山林部落當時還遇到很多的阻力然後我們還是一一的排除那現在整個部落\n\n9\n00:02:59,777 --> 00:03:20,206\n我們跟主委我們都有到現場去看那整個環境真的是一個在北大特區那個附近算是一個非常好的一個社區這就是我們的成效對我們原住民的照顧那本期比較關心的就是我們原住民的實驗教育那從過去105年我們的校數現在已經成長了8倍補助經費\n\n10\n00:03:28,289 --> 00:03:31,474\n原住民的文化更加穩定成長本席\n\n11\n00:03:43,921 --> 00:04:10,676\n這邊也要建立喔,主委在老師的臨險方面因為有的是我們的比較偏遠的地方那是對老師的師資這個部分我們還是要鼓勵我們主人有主人來教導這適度應該會比較快這個部分我們會持續跟教育部還有我們地方的教育局怎麼樣讓\n\n12\n00:04:11,857 --> 00:04:38,863\n原住民具有私資經用資格的可以優先在原住民族的實驗學校原住民族地區的學校來擔任老師這樣的話對原住民的教育會有更大的幫助對因為我們要如何來鼓勵我們原住民培育我們原住民整個我們的私資的提升這樣才有實質的幫助那\n\n13\n00:04:41,967 --> 00:05:09,136\n本席這邊對於原住民的語言的自知補治目前我們原住民推廣行銷的保存7年來抑制了2億6千275萬每年編列還是逐年的增加原住民的語言考試在報考人士已經通過人士不但沒有提升反而下降\n\n14\n00:05:11,522 --> 00:05:29,933\n足以認證的考試部分應該是怎樣來做宣導怎樣來做宣傳獎勵制度是不是能來提升有個誘因讓我們原住民的語言認證能夠來提升這是我們諸位請你回答一下\n\n15\n00:05:30,601 --> 00:05:45,969\n根本包括那個人口減少那個部分應該是要這樣看那個數字因為以前的足以認證是國中生才開始考那這幾年開放國小就開始考足以認證所以國小已經考取足以認證初級的\n\n16\n00:05:48,411 --> 00:06:04,880\n國中就不用再報名所以會有減少的這個狀況至於獎勵的部分我們現在只要取得主委認證的我們都有一些相關的獎勵包括考上中高級、高級、優級的部分我們都有獎勵金甚至\n\n17\n00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:17,290\n我們對很多原住民的基層的工作人員他會想族語的話我們還有族語家籍來作為鼓勵他們的一個學族語的一個很好的獎勵方式\n\n18\n00:06:19,872 --> 00:06:37,920\n因為我們原民會我們原住民民主的工作權的保障法那從我們90年10月31號經總統公告實施在104年的2月4號除了配合行政院的自治改造現在我們的原民會\n\n19\n00:06:39,621 --> 00:06:50,504\n我們本席這邊所得到的資料我們原住民的失業率從90年14.86%現在已經降為大概111年已經降為3.66%這顯示我們在推動這成效真的是不錯\n\n20\n00:06:59,887 --> 00:07:09,008\n但是我們原住民的工作都屬於比較來自基層但是跟我們台灣的人民還是有點差異\n\n21\n00:07:10,391 --> 00:07:29,787\n我們差異本席這邊的資料還有將近一萬塊那顯示整個結果上還是有失衡那是不是我們要怎樣來鼓勵我們一些民眾、一些企業人來因為我們原住民都從事於比較勞工階段的\n\n22\n00:07:30,487 --> 00:07:32,490\n那是不是也鼓勵我們原住民能出來工作的媒合這是應該我們原民會要去做的\n\n23\n00:07:41,397 --> 00:08:07,209\n委員跟委員報告我們這個送給大宴的這個工作券保障法在公部門的部分我們希望不是過去是只禁用到這個業故人員這個部分所以他的薪資沒有辦法提高所以我們新的工作券保障的話修正案就是我們希望正式考試的這個比例在各部會都禁用不是只有在延敏會那這樣的話他們才有\n\n24\n00:08:08,149 --> 00:08:33,071\n增加薪資提高的部分民間的部分是我們鼓勵民間禁用更多的原住民然後他們在做政府採購的時候有禁用原住民達到一定比例的這些民間企業他們的整個評選的項目會增加5分所以這個是我們整個配套來提升原住民就業率一個很重要的修法方向\n\n25\n00:08:33,564 --> 00:08:55,078\n也希望我們大院可以支持這個工作局綁架法可以早日來通過對於我們原住民我們民間企業是1%那現在我看我們人民會也要把它提高為1.5%那最主要是我們原住民他們的工作有的原住民有的都不\n\n26\n00:08:56,059 --> 00:09:17,061\n不想去從事個別的行業那造成這個行業也是一個空洞那未來我們還是要怎樣去磨合在我們原住民裡面的工作前我們要去磨合我們原住民跟企業的一個平台這是我們原民會要做的事情\n\n27\n00:09:18,732 --> 00:09:45,552\n委員我想這個部分我們院辦已經在大宴這裡做排審希望未來各個委員有寶貴的意見還有更好的經濟方式的話我們都尊重只要大宴達成共識也符合民間企業的期待的話我們都希望可以讓原住民有更好的這個就業環境對因為我們是要保障原住民的工作權謝謝委員這麼關心原住民的工作謝謝主委謝謝\n\n28\n00:09:48,947 --> 00:09:49,609\n謝謝吳祈明、趙薇、謝謝一將主委、謝謝。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6200\t9342\t好 請我們原住民主委請一將主委\n18908\t35977\t委員好 主委好 主委針對我們今天首排的議程本席比較關心的就是我們海保法的審查我們的主任對我們的海保法有的還不是很清楚\n36577\t62510\t那我們的高軍我們的召委也非常的重視尤其我們原住民的權益在審查之前我們也要再辦公聽會那我也要請主委這邊在公聽會上也要多跟我們主任的做一個先導還有溝通那也是我們就近期就會排了吧那是不是主委這邊有什麼說法\n65542\t81950\t我想我們會針對海洋保育法的修法關於原住民的部分我們會做很明確的主張跟建議讓整個海保法會也兼顧到原住民的這個傳統的魚撈文化跟傳統海域的這個潛力\n83956\t106394\t對,這是我們原住民的權益我們一定要保障嘛那本期在內政委員會我對原住民都是非常的注重所以我過去曾經爭取了不管我們原住民的經費也好原住民的權益、原住民的交易我都是極力來推動那我之前爭取我們山英部落1438萬的經費就是設置一個聚會所還有無線的網路的建置\n112279\t137251\t那在疫情期間因為我們很多原住民的朋友也沒辦法說到外面所以透過這無線的網路的建置那我本席比較關心的就整體的全章工程在109年10月完工距離已經5年左右那目前的執行的成效為何那請主委來做說明\n138492\t159694\t最新的進度關於無限寬頻的部分提供給當地居民使用的我們在2019年7月28號就已經完成了包括委員一直關心的部落聚會所比這個更早使用所以現在目前這個設施都有充分的讓我們部落來做使用\n160908\t179217\t所以在這幾年我們原民會對我們原住民的族人真的也是滿照顧的所以當初我們在推動山林部落當時還遇到很多的阻力然後我們還是一一的排除那現在整個部落\n179777\t200206\t我們跟主委我們都有到現場去看那整個環境真的是一個在北大特區那個附近算是一個非常好的一個社區這就是我們的成效對我們原住民的照顧那本期比較關心的就是我們原住民的實驗教育那從過去105年我們的校數現在已經成長了8倍補助經費\n208289\t211474\t原住民的文化更加穩定成長本席\n223921\t250676\t這邊也要建立喔,主委在老師的臨險方面因為有的是我們的比較偏遠的地方那是對老師的師資這個部分我們還是要鼓勵我們主人有主人來教導這適度應該會比較快這個部分我們會持續跟教育部還有我們地方的教育局怎麼樣讓\n251857\t278863\t原住民具有私資經用資格的可以優先在原住民族的實驗學校原住民族地區的學校來擔任老師這樣的話對原住民的教育會有更大的幫助對因為我們要如何來鼓勵我們原住民培育我們原住民整個我們的私資的提升這樣才有實質的幫助那\n281967\t309136\t本席這邊對於原住民的語言的自知補治目前我們原住民推廣行銷的保存7年來抑制了2億6千275萬每年編列還是逐年的增加原住民的語言考試在報考人士已經通過人士不但沒有提升反而下降\n311522\t329933\t足以認證的考試部分應該是怎樣來做宣導怎樣來做宣傳獎勵制度是不是能來提升有個誘因讓我們原住民的語言認證能夠來提升這是我們諸位請你回答一下\n330601\t345969\t根本包括那個人口減少那個部分應該是要這樣看那個數字因為以前的足以認證是國中生才開始考那這幾年開放國小就開始考足以認證所以國小已經考取足以認證初級的\n348411\t364880\t國中就不用再報名所以會有減少的這個狀況至於獎勵的部分我們現在只要取得主委認證的我們都有一些相關的獎勵包括考上中高級、高級、優級的部分我們都有獎勵金甚至\n365600\t377290\t我們對很多原住民的基層的工作人員他會想族語的話我們還有族語家籍來作為鼓勵他們的一個學族語的一個很好的獎勵方式\n379872\t397920\t因為我們原民會我們原住民民主的工作權的保障法那從我們90年10月31號經總統公告實施在104年的2月4號除了配合行政院的自治改造現在我們的原民會\n399621\t410504\t我們本席這邊所得到的資料我們原住民的失業率從90年14.86%現在已經降為大概111年已經降為3.66%這顯示我們在推動這成效真的是不錯\n419887\t429008\t但是我們原住民的工作都屬於比較來自基層但是跟我們台灣的人民還是有點差異\n430391\t449787\t我們差異本席這邊的資料還有將近一萬塊那顯示整個結果上還是有失衡那是不是我們要怎樣來鼓勵我們一些民眾、一些企業人來因為我們原住民都從事於比較勞工階段的\n450487\t452490\t那是不是也鼓勵我們原住民能出來工作的媒合這是應該我們原民會要去做的\n461397\t487209\t委員跟委員報告我們這個送給大宴的這個工作券保障法在公部門的部分我們希望不是過去是只禁用到這個業故人員這個部分所以他的薪資沒有辦法提高所以我們新的工作券保障的話修正案就是我們希望正式考試的這個比例在各部會都禁用不是只有在延敏會那這樣的話他們才有\n488149\t513071\t增加薪資提高的部分民間的部分是我們鼓勵民間禁用更多的原住民然後他們在做政府採購的時候有禁用原住民達到一定比例的這些民間企業他們的整個評選的項目會增加5分所以這個是我們整個配套來提升原住民就業率一個很重要的修法方向\n513564\t535078\t也希望我們大院可以支持這個工作局綁架法可以早日來通過對於我們原住民我們民間企業是1%那現在我看我們人民會也要把它提高為1.5%那最主要是我們原住民他們的工作有的原住民有的都不\n536059\t557061\t不想去從事個別的行業那造成這個行業也是一個空洞那未來我們還是要怎樣去磨合在我們原住民裡面的工作前我們要去磨合我們原住民跟企業的一個平台這是我們原民會要做的事情\n558732\t585552\t委員我想這個部分我們院辦已經在大宴這裡做排審希望未來各個委員有寶貴的意見還有更好的經濟方式的話我們都尊重只要大宴達成共識也符合民間企業的期待的話我們都希望可以讓原住民有更好的這個就業環境對因為我們是要保障原住民的工作權謝謝委員這麼關心原住民的工作謝謝主委謝謝\n588947\t589609\t謝謝吳祈明、趙薇、謝謝一將主委、謝謝。\n","txt":"好 請我們原住民主委請一將主委\n委員好 主委好 主委針對我們今天首排的議程本席比較關心的就是我們海保法的審查我們的主任對我們的海保法有的還不是很清楚\n那我們的高軍我們的召委也非常的重視尤其我們原住民的權益在審查之前我們也要再辦公聽會那我也要請主委這邊在公聽會上也要多跟我們主任的做一個先導還有溝通那也是我們就近期就會排了吧那是不是主委這邊有什麼說法\n我想我們會針對海洋保育法的修法關於原住民的部分我們會做很明確的主張跟建議讓整個海保法會也兼顧到原住民的這個傳統的魚撈文化跟傳統海域的這個潛力\n對,這是我們原住民的權益我們一定要保障嘛那本期在內政委員會我對原住民都是非常的注重所以我過去曾經爭取了不管我們原住民的經費也好原住民的權益、原住民的交易我都是極力來推動那我之前爭取我們山英部落1438萬的經費就是設置一個聚會所還有無線的網路的建置\n那在疫情期間因為我們很多原住民的朋友也沒辦法說到外面所以透過這無線的網路的建置那我本席比較關心的就整體的全章工程在109年10月完工距離已經5年左右那目前的執行的成效為何那請主委來做說明\n最新的進度關於無限寬頻的部分提供給當地居民使用的我們在2019年7月28號就已經完成了包括委員一直關心的部落聚會所比這個更早使用所以現在目前這個設施都有充分的讓我們部落來做使用\n所以在這幾年我們原民會對我們原住民的族人真的也是滿照顧的所以當初我們在推動山林部落當時還遇到很多的阻力然後我們還是一一的排除那現在整個部落\n我們跟主委我們都有到現場去看那整個環境真的是一個在北大特區那個附近算是一個非常好的一個社區這就是我們的成效對我們原住民的照顧那本期比較關心的就是我們原住民的實驗教育那從過去105年我們的校數現在已經成長了8倍補助經費\n原住民的文化更加穩定成長本席\n這邊也要建立喔,主委在老師的臨險方面因為有的是我們的比較偏遠的地方那是對老師的師資這個部分我們還是要鼓勵我們主人有主人來教導這適度應該會比較快這個部分我們會持續跟教育部還有我們地方的教育局怎麼樣讓\n原住民具有私資經用資格的可以優先在原住民族的實驗學校原住民族地區的學校來擔任老師這樣的話對原住民的教育會有更大的幫助對因為我們要如何來鼓勵我們原住民培育我們原住民整個我們的私資的提升這樣才有實質的幫助那\n本席這邊對於原住民的語言的自知補治目前我們原住民推廣行銷的保存7年來抑制了2億6千275萬每年編列還是逐年的增加原住民的語言考試在報考人士已經通過人士不但沒有提升反而下降\n足以認證的考試部分應該是怎樣來做宣導怎樣來做宣傳獎勵制度是不是能來提升有個誘因讓我們原住民的語言認證能夠來提升這是我們諸位請你回答一下\n根本包括那個人口減少那個部分應該是要這樣看那個數字因為以前的足以認證是國中生才開始考那這幾年開放國小就開始考足以認證所以國小已經考取足以認證初級的\n國中就不用再報名所以會有減少的這個狀況至於獎勵的部分我們現在只要取得主委認證的我們都有一些相關的獎勵包括考上中高級、高級、優級的部分我們都有獎勵金甚至\n我們對很多原住民的基層的工作人員他會想族語的話我們還有族語家籍來作為鼓勵他們的一個學族語的一個很好的獎勵方式\n因為我們原民會我們原住民民主的工作權的保障法那從我們90年10月31號經總統公告實施在104年的2月4號除了配合行政院的自治改造現在我們的原民會\n我們本席這邊所得到的資料我們原住民的失業率從90年14.86%現在已經降為大概111年已經降為3.66%這顯示我們在推動這成效真的是不錯\n但是我們原住民的工作都屬於比較來自基層但是跟我們台灣的人民還是有點差異\n我們差異本席這邊的資料還有將近一萬塊那顯示整個結果上還是有失衡那是不是我們要怎樣來鼓勵我們一些民眾、一些企業人來因為我們原住民都從事於比較勞工階段的\n那是不是也鼓勵我們原住民能出來工作的媒合這是應該我們原民會要去做的\n委員跟委員報告我們這個送給大宴的這個工作券保障法在公部門的部分我們希望不是過去是只禁用到這個業故人員這個部分所以他的薪資沒有辦法提高所以我們新的工作券保障的話修正案就是我們希望正式考試的這個比例在各部會都禁用不是只有在延敏會那這樣的話他們才有\n增加薪資提高的部分民間的部分是我們鼓勵民間禁用更多的原住民然後他們在做政府採購的時候有禁用原住民達到一定比例的這些民間企業他們的整個評選的項目會增加5分所以這個是我們整個配套來提升原住民就業率一個很重要的修法方向\n也希望我們大院可以支持這個工作局綁架法可以早日來通過對於我們原住民我們民間企業是1%那現在我看我們人民會也要把它提高為1.5%那最主要是我們原住民他們的工作有的原住民有的都不\n不想去從事個別的行業那造成這個行業也是一個空洞那未來我們還是要怎樣去磨合在我們原住民裡面的工作前我們要去磨合我們原住民跟企業的一個平台這是我們原民會要做的事情\n委員我想這個部分我們院辦已經在大宴這裡做排審希望未來各個委員有寶貴的意見還有更好的經濟方式的話我們都尊重只要大宴達成共識也符合民間企業的期待的話我們都希望可以讓原住民有更好的這個就業環境對因為我們是要保障原住民的工作權謝謝委員這麼關心原住民的工作謝謝主委謝謝\n謝謝吳祈明、趙薇、謝謝一將主委、謝謝。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.200 --> 00:09.342\n好請我們原住民主委請一將主委\n\n00:18.908 --> 00:35.977\n委員好主委好主委針對我們今天首排的議程本席比較關心的就是我們海保法的審查我們的主任對我們的海保法有的還不是很清楚\n\n00:36.577 --> 01:02.510\n那我們的高軍我們的召委也非常的重視尤其我們原住民的權益在審查之前我們也要再辦公聽會那我也要請主委這邊在公聽會上也要多跟我們主任的做一個先導還有溝通那也是我們就近期就會排了吧那是不是主委這邊有什麼說法\n\n01:05.542 --> 01:21.950\n我想我們會針對海洋保育法的修法關於原住民的部分我們會做很明確的主張跟建議讓整個海保法會也兼顧到原住民的這個傳統的魚撈文化跟傳統海域的這個潛力\n\n01:23.956 --> 01:46.394\n對,這是我們原住民的權益我們一定要保障嘛那本期在內政委員會我對原住民都是非常的注重所以我過去曾經爭取了不管我們原住民的經費也好原住民的權益、原住民的交易我都是極力來推動那我之前爭取我們山英部落1438萬的經費就是設置一個聚會所還有無線的網路的建置\n\n01:52.279 --> 02:17.251\n那在疫情期間因為我們很多原住民的朋友也沒辦法說到外面所以透過這無線的網路的建置那我本席比較關心的就整體的全章工程在109年10月完工距離已經5年左右那目前的執行的成效為何那請主委來做說明\n\n02:18.492 --> 02:39.694\n最新的進度關於無限寬頻的部分提供給當地居民使用的我們在2019年7月28號就已經完成了包括委員一直關心的部落聚會所比這個更早使用所以現在目前這個設施都有充分的讓我們部落來做使用\n\n02:40.908 --> 02:59.217\n所以在這幾年我們原民會對我們原住民的族人真的也是滿照顧的所以當初我們在推動山林部落當時還遇到很多的阻力然後我們還是一一的排除那現在整個部落\n\n02:59.777 --> 03:20.206\n我們跟主委我們都有到現場去看那整個環境真的是一個在北大特區那個附近算是一個非常好的一個社區這就是我們的成效對我們原住民的照顧那本期比較關心的就是我們原住民的實驗教育那從過去105年我們的校數現在已經成長了8倍補助經費\n\n03:28.289 --> 03:31.474\n原住民的文化更加穩定成長本席\n\n03:43.921 --> 04:10.676\n這邊也要建立喔,主委在老師的臨險方面因為有的是我們的比較偏遠的地方那是對老師的師資這個部分我們還是要鼓勵我們主人有主人來教導這適度應該會比較快這個部分我們會持續跟教育部還有我們地方的教育局怎麼樣讓\n\n04:11.857 --> 04:38.863\n原住民具有私資經用資格的可以優先在原住民族的實驗學校原住民族地區的學校來擔任老師這樣的話對原住民的教育會有更大的幫助對因為我們要如何來鼓勵我們原住民培育我們原住民整個我們的私資的提升這樣才有實質的幫助那\n\n04:41.967 --> 05:09.136\n本席這邊對於原住民的語言的自知補治目前我們原住民推廣行銷的保存7年來抑制了2億6千275萬每年編列還是逐年的增加原住民的語言考試在報考人士已經通過人士不但沒有提升反而下降\n\n05:11.522 --> 05:29.933\n足以認證的考試部分應該是怎樣來做宣導怎樣來做宣傳獎勵制度是不是能來提升有個誘因讓我們原住民的語言認證能夠來提升這是我們諸位請你回答一下\n\n05:30.601 --> 05:45.969\n根本包括那個人口減少那個部分應該是要這樣看那個數字因為以前的足以認證是國中生才開始考那這幾年開放國小就開始考足以認證所以國小已經考取足以認證初級的\n\n05:48.411 --> 06:04.880\n國中就不用再報名所以會有減少的這個狀況至於獎勵的部分我們現在只要取得主委認證的我們都有一些相關的獎勵包括考上中高級、高級、優級的部分我們都有獎勵金甚至\n\n06:05.600 --> 06:17.290\n我們對很多原住民的基層的工作人員他會想族語的話我們還有族語家籍來作為鼓勵他們的一個學族語的一個很好的獎勵方式\n\n06:19.872 --> 06:37.920\n因為我們原民會我們原住民民主的工作權的保障法那從我們90年10月31號經總統公告實施在104年的2月4號除了配合行政院的自治改造現在我們的原民會\n\n06:39.621 --> 06:50.504\n我們本席這邊所得到的資料我們原住民的失業率從90年14.86%現在已經降為大概111年已經降為3.66%這顯示我們在推動這成效真的是不錯\n\n06:59.887 --> 07:09.008\n但是我們原住民的工作都屬於比較來自基層但是跟我們台灣的人民還是有點差異\n\n07:10.391 --> 07:29.787\n我們差異本席這邊的資料還有將近一萬塊那顯示整個結果上還是有失衡那是不是我們要怎樣來鼓勵我們一些民眾、一些企業人來因為我們原住民都從事於比較勞工階段的\n\n07:30.487 --> 07:32.490\n那是不是也鼓勵我們原住民能出來工作的媒合這是應該我們原民會要去做的\n\n07:41.397 --> 08:07.209\n委員跟委員報告我們這個送給大宴的這個工作券保障法在公部門的部分我們希望不是過去是只禁用到這個業故人員這個部分所以他的薪資沒有辦法提高所以我們新的工作券保障的話修正案就是我們希望正式考試的這個比例在各部會都禁用不是只有在延敏會那這樣的話他們才有\n\n08:08.149 --> 08:33.071\n增加薪資提高的部分民間的部分是我們鼓勵民間禁用更多的原住民然後他們在做政府採購的時候有禁用原住民達到一定比例的這些民間企業他們的整個評選的項目會增加5分所以這個是我們整個配套來提升原住民就業率一個很重要的修法方向\n\n08:33.564 --> 08:55.078\n也希望我們大院可以支持這個工作局綁架法可以早日來通過對於我們原住民我們民間企業是1%那現在我看我們人民會也要把它提高為1.5%那最主要是我們原住民他們的工作有的原住民有的都不\n\n08:56.059 --> 09:17.061\n不想去從事個別的行業那造成這個行業也是一個空洞那未來我們還是要怎樣去磨合在我們原住民裡面的工作前我們要去磨合我們原住民跟企業的一個平台這是我們原民會要做的事情\n\n09:18.732 --> 09:45.552\n委員我想這個部分我們院辦已經在大宴這裡做排審希望未來各個委員有寶貴的意見還有更好的經濟方式的話我們都尊重只要大宴達成共識也符合民間企業的期待的話我們都希望可以讓原住民有更好的這個就業環境對因為我們是要保障原住民的工作權謝謝委員這麼關心原住民的工作謝謝主委謝謝\n\n09:48.947 --> 09:49.609\n謝謝吳祈明、趙薇、謝謝一將主委、謝謝。\n\n","segments":[{"start":6.2,"end":9.342,"text":"好 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