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00:00:47,890\n當然過去所有同仁共同努力的付出有些成果當然也有很多精進的空間如果我們以五年兵診往前看的話後面還有很多的專案在執行中還面臨一些挑戰我在這邊先提出一個比較重要的建議案剛才有聽取到很多在專案的管理上面\n\n3\n00:00:49,212 --> 00:01:16,069\n我們有採購室有軍備局有中科院那也有在簽署合約的過程中間有篩選哪些備選哪些合格不合格我個人建議因為有這麼多的我們講國內案FMS軍售案比較單純我們跟美國這麼多年的合作經驗非常好商售案就是美國對我們的商售案有些會變成我們國產產業底下的供應鏈\n\n4\n00:01:17,469 --> 00:01:17,729\n陳永康,國防部長\n\n5\n00:01:30,419 --> 00:01:59,286\n這裏面產生了一個問題就是說我們需要有一個專業的律師團隊這個並不是指我們現有的人專業素質不夠而是他的負荷太大就這麼多的國防產業案子裏面你要去看每一個合約的細則以我們現在的幕僚成本單位來講在履約督導專案進行甚至在合約的過程中間我們往往疏忽了有些什麼特殊條款\n\n6\n00:02:00,026 --> 00:02:00,246\n李卓人議員\n\n7\n00:02:28,521 --> 00:02:29,101\n李卓人議員\n\n8\n00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:36,880\n陳永康議員\n\n9\n00:03:04,201 --> 00:03:04,421\n國防部長：陳永康\n\n10\n00:03:30,953 --> 00:03:54,062\n我們要他做核實調查,要由本國的律師跟外國律師同時查核這個他的資格不合,他的信貸合不合,他的信譽合不合,這個叫做DD,DueDiligence,這必須要做的。那這項在後面的專案裡面,在執行的過程中間,我們都會提出這個要求。這個可以幫國防部減省很多的履約督導的負責,因為由這個專業的律師團隊全程參與,一直到結案。\n\n11\n00:03:58,183 --> 00:03:58,323\n陳永康\n\n12\n00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:37,697\n過去參與國防科研多年他從理論導入模擬測試實境驗證跟性能提升的過程中間他奠定了很多的基礎在目前科技突飛猛進的挑戰下中科院參與國家太空衛星計劃也好多年了為航空太空習慣相關的服務模組\n\n13\n00:04:40,180 --> 00:04:53,693\n佛爾摩沙系列衛星提供衛星電力控制、電腦、衛星導航,證明國防自主、中科院具備相關航太研發能力。\n\n14\n00:04:54,774 --> 00:05:17,247\n目前我們的建議是把中科院從現行的周邊組織要重新定位,賦予全責相符的關鍵位置,這樣子中科院可以保持累積尖端的研發能力,與我們的國家太空團隊共同合作,為國防自主奠定一個好的基礎。我要提到人才問題。\n\n15\n00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:43,585\n我們積極推動太空計劃政策建議採行全方位的資源整合運用目前太空計劃是把他的教育經費有跟某些學校合作我們建議是要全國的產官學員如陽明交大、中央大學、成功大學乃至於國防大學理工學院設有航空工程系的\n\n16\n00:05:44,926 --> 00:05:45,106\n併請國防部長\n\n17\n00:06:01,258 --> 00:06:15,752\n我現在就把幾個論述的方法簡單的提出來我們的目標是以國防產業的技術自主增強國家戰略的自主性我們的方法提升中科院、航帶科研的能力\n\n18\n00:06:17,076 --> 00:06:42,278\n以有限資源全方位配合分配我們的手段建議從周邊組織重新定位直接賦予權責相符的關鍵位置人才的培育是最關鍵性的有限的資源配合促成產官學研注入陽明交大、中央大學、成功大學、國防大學、理工學院這個團隊共同努力才完成一個航太自主的國家戰略目標\n\n19\n00:06:43,860 --> 00:07:05,419\n在這個裡面看到這是福衛五號的照片我們中科院在裡面做的衛星電腦電力控制單元我們有跟這個中央大學合作甚至衛星導航的系統我們都參與了那其次最後一個就是說我們這麼多的學研單位共同支持國家的太空計畫包括中科院的\n\n20\n00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:05,899\n中科院議員\n\n21\n00:07:22,396 --> 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