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00:02:10,143\n所以說我們主營是因為我們是NUECE的法規檢測所以台灣採取的部分所以未來會頂得住壓力嗎?\n\n7\n00:02:11,469 --> 00:02:32,507\n跟這個委員報告一下這個從這個就是95年實施這個條和聯合國法規一直到現在都是這樣子的一個這個法規遷移所以說是還沒有答案但是我在想不管是OPEN還是COURSE的部分都要跟全國民眾做報告因為我們還是必須要以民為先那不能大家所關心的事情拖到旁邊\n\n8\n00:02:33,248 --> 00:02:44,559\n那同樣的那接著再就交到部長我們剛才講到美國那再來講中國大陸那目前今天大家的質詢熱點是在於觀光的部分那在下修這個1200萬人到1000萬人其實\n\n9\n00:02:48,702 --> 00:03:04,982\n這個事情我相信各個委員辦公室都接到了許多包括旅遊業者、飯店業者、民宿業者各式各樣的一個陳情包括住宿業者就連今天下午本席的辦公室也會有各地的一個相關同業工會也會來陳情這個部分那\n\n10\n00:03:05,703 --> 00:03:27,888\n以目前來講阿我想先請教一下部長您記得在賴清德就是準總統那時候在提說觀光產業是無煙囪的工業可以創造許多的就業機會那時候喊出了1200萬人能夠來台灣希望能夠走進世界讓世界擁抱台灣可是回頭來講\n\n11\n00:03:29,068 --> 00:03:42,842\n那在去年喊600萬可是到今年原本喊的1200萬在選舉前喊一喊結果現在還下修那我想要就教一下部長那在今年的話真的能夠達到1000萬嗎?\n\n12\n00:03:46,569 --> 00:04:10,320\n現在第一季大概快兩百萬但是它的這個整個一頁開始到上頁就逐頁增加所以我們是看好就是說慢慢隨著包括航線包括全世界公安的復甦會越來越增加那的確在這個公安署署長這邊有跟我說明過他們同仁整體的考量在國內\n\n13\n00:04:12,461 --> 00:04:12,581\n李卓人議員\n\n14\n00:04:33,081 --> 00:04:50,579\n大陸那邊會把自由醒候團客放進來的跡象所以我們現在初步大概我有同意他們這樣的一個下修在6月1號啊那入團團客已經不能再去大陸那現在兩岸的關係其實看起來是明顯就是冰凍起來\n\n15\n00:04:51,480 --> 00:05:04,704\n那這樣子如何能夠有觀光客那我是想要就教一下部長像目前來講入客來台的這個部分那等於是冰凍起來的這個決定啊是您的決定還是陸委會的決定\n\n16\n00:05:08,264 --> 00:05:22,164\n現在兩岸當然就是說都是跨部會討論的結果真的不是交通部一個部會但是我們的確在討論過程中是兩岸平等互惠的這個往來是重要\n\n17\n00:05:22,785 --> 00:05:42,163\n所以我們一直也期待事實上我們門也開著說如果他願意比如說開放的話我們也會開放目前也是這樣所以我想說剛剛所談到的雖然我們現在下修一千萬但是不代表我們就是努力就是會限制在一千萬我們會繼續來努力來進行\n\n18\n00:05:44,065 --> 00:05:47,469\n路委會的責任必須要由交通部來背以及包括觀光署以及全國的觀光產業來受到觀光的衝擊\n\n19\n00:05:59,645 --> 00:06:25,302\n所以我的建議還是認為說其實目前今年度的話其實去年是六百萬當然我們講說景氣復甦但是其實目前各國的景氣那也都是還是目前沒有那麼好的一個狀況所以本期還是建議在達不到一千萬的這個水準跟那個目標的時候我覺得還是要務實來看待那想請問一下部長目前對於這樣子下修的時候在相關的旅遊業民宿業有沒有任何的一個協助的輔導方案\n\n20\n00:06:27,021 --> 00:06:31,505\n這個本來就是一個很務實的一個檢討那麼主要是路客不來\n\n21\n00:06:33,371 --> 00:06:56,111\n就是中國那邊不四處善意的話所以我們這個部分是以來台來算的我都想這種就是互相的啦因為說我們這邊不要過去那再說他們不來其實這種都互相我相信現在的兩岸關係在馬英九執政時期來講現在其實都是越是推向兵兇戰委啦所以說\n\n22\n00:06:56,832 --> 00:07:24,183\n我還是會建議說我們務實看待以目前遭受到的衝擊的時候那如何來去對於相關國內的業者做補貼事實上我跟委員報告就是說我們希望平等互惠也是一個原因就是說如果我們單向比如說把團客送到大陸去他沒有來那這樣是影響我們國內的比如說南投的理數業、旅館業所以平等互惠它事實上的一個精神是照顧國內的相關的理數跟餐飲\n\n23\n00:07:25,163 --> 00:07:46,984\n所以我想說這部分也是我們為什麼在這個今年初會有這樣一個決定的原因是好沒關係這個狀況大家都知道那我直接接著就叫今天的包括極端氣候災防預警的議題那我想請教一下那今天那個環境部還有氣候署他們有排員過來嗎\n\n24\n00:07:49,905 --> 00:08:12,584\n那所以嘛上次所提到的不是氣象署喔是署長那個沒事那個環境部氣候署那我就直接就交一下部長在這個極端氣候災防預警的這個議題上面那在環境部氣候變遷署他們跟這個議題到底有沒有相關還是其實跟這個議題並不相關應該很相關那所以啊\n\n25\n00:08:13,064 --> 00:08:37,218\n那今天來講同樣是沒有在邀他們過來所以在交通委員會每次討論極端氣候或是氣候變遷的時候其實環境部他們的氣候變遷署通常都是置身事外那我們看到了其實在在氣候變遷對於地方造成的影響包括上次的一個風災卡努風災那我們也知道說這些議題來講如果有心行政院要來提高還有這個氣候變遷的這種這種問題的解決\n\n26\n00:08:40,160 --> 00:09:07,748\n那我在想說在交通部其實還是要在相關的業務來去做一個整合包括還有我們的災防告警細胞的廣播服務還有以及我們的所謂的就是訊息中心那其實科技中心他其實業務他來講他跌床駕屋但是卻跟我們交通部的訊息業務來講的話其實並沒有做很暢通的一個溝通所以本期還是希望交通部能夠進行主導謝謝\n\n27\n00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:28,104\n我簡單回答就是說Carmen是在上游在氣候變遷這一塊那因為今天主要是汛期的這個準備啦現在就我們陸海空的準備所以我們現在還是從我們交通部的準備來做一個報告這樣子但是的確兩個是相關的很相關的對阿是相關的所以到時候他們沒有來嘛對阿是OK好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n17540\t17720\t有請部長\n29807\t51483\t那謝謝部長那我想說今天針對大家關心的議題也是包括我們是否是屬於一個開放的態度來面對許多的重大政策那我想先就教您說目前美規的Toyota的實驗卡在新車台灣買不買得到那當然我可以直接跟你講說這買不到因為2020年11月26號\n55225\t82796\t車輛安全中心VSCC發文給中華民國車輛進口商協會就是不得已少量車輛還來進行導入那當然說這是中華民國的相關法規那在美國貿易代表戴琦在3月29號也公布了2024各國貿易障礙報告NTE他也點名了台灣對美規車型的一個技術障礙限制美國車進入台灣市場還我想就叫進行總量管制\n83436\t83736\t我先請市長先回答一下\n93293\t119786\t這個部分跟委員報告一下這個最主要如果說要談源頭的話最主要是那個車輛安全法規的調和啦那這個目前就是說國際車輛安全法規的調和在APEC會議裡面大家有共識就是調和聯合國UAECE的這個法規那因為美國的聯邦法規是另外它有一個這個系統所以這個目前這個相關這個符合美國聯邦法規但是不符合這個聯合國法規的\n121527\t130143\t所以說我們主營是因為我們是NU ECE的法規檢測所以台灣採取的部分所以未來會頂得住壓力嗎?\n131469\t152507\t跟這個委員報告一下這個從這個就是95年實施這個條和聯合國法規一直到現在都是這樣子的一個這個法規遷移所以說是還沒有答案但是我在想不管是OPEN還是COURSE的部分都要跟全國民眾做報告因為我們還是必須要以民為先那不能大家所關心的事情拖到旁邊\n153248\t164559\t那同樣的那接著再就交到部長我們剛才講到美國那再來講中國大陸那目前今天大家的質詢熱點是在於觀光的部分那在下修這個1200萬人到1000萬人其實\n168702\t184982\t這個事情我相信各個委員辦公室都接到了許多包括旅遊業者、飯店業者、民宿業者各式各樣的一個陳情包括住宿業者就連今天下午本席的辦公室也會有各地的一個相關同業工會也會來陳情這個部分那\n185703\t207888\t以目前來講阿我想先請教一下部長您記得在賴清德就是準總統那時候在提說觀光產業是無煙囪的工業可以創造許多的就業機會那時候喊出了1200萬人能夠來台灣希望能夠走進世界讓世界擁抱台灣可是回頭來講\n209068\t222842\t那在去年喊600萬可是到今年原本喊的1200萬在選舉前喊一喊結果現在還下修那我想要就教一下部長那在今年的話真的能夠達到1000萬嗎?\n226569\t250320\t現在第一季大概快兩百萬但是它的這個整個一頁開始到上頁就逐頁增加所以我們是看好就是說慢慢隨著包括航線包括全世界公安的復甦會越來越增加那的確在這個公安署署長這邊有跟我說明過他們同仁整體的考量在國內\n252461\t252581\t李卓人議員\n273081\t290579\t大陸那邊會把自由醒候團客放進來的跡象所以我們現在初步大概我有同意他們這樣的一個下修在6月1號啊那入團團客已經不能再去大陸那現在兩岸的關係其實看起來是明顯就是冰凍起來\n291480\t304704\t那這樣子如何能夠有觀光客那我是想要就教一下部長像目前來講入客來台的這個部分那等於是冰凍起來的這個決定啊是您的決定還是陸委會的決定\n308264\t322164\t現在兩岸當然就是說都是跨部會討論的結果真的不是交通部一個部會但是我們的確在討論過程中是兩岸平等互惠的這個往來是重要\n322785\t342163\t所以我們一直也期待事實上我們門也開著說如果他願意比如說開放的話我們也會開放目前也是這樣所以我想說剛剛所談到的雖然我們現在下修一千萬但是不代表我們就是努力就是會限制在一千萬我們會繼續來努力來進行\n344065\t347469\t路委會的責任必須要由交通部來背以及包括觀光署以及全國的觀光產業來受到觀光的衝擊\n359645\t385302\t所以我的建議還是認為說其實目前今年度的話其實去年是六百萬當然我們講說景氣復甦但是其實目前各國的景氣那也都是還是目前沒有那麼好的一個狀況所以本期還是建議在達不到一千萬的這個水準跟那個目標的時候我覺得還是要務實來看待那想請問一下部長目前對於這樣子下修的時候在相關的旅遊業民宿業有沒有任何的一個協助的輔導方案\n387021\t391505\t這個本來就是一個很務實的一個檢討那麼主要是路客不來\n393371\t416111\t就是中國那邊不四處善意的話所以我們這個部分是以來台來算的我都想這種就是互相的啦因為說我們這邊不要過去那再說他們不來其實這種都互相我相信現在的兩岸關係在馬英九執政時期來講現在其實都是越是推向兵兇戰委啦所以說\n416832\t444183\t我還是會建議說我們務實看待以目前遭受到的衝擊的時候那如何來去對於相關國內的業者做補貼事實上我跟委員報告就是說我們希望平等互惠也是一個原因就是說如果我們單向比如說把團客送到大陸去他沒有來那這樣是影響我們國內的比如說南投的理數業、旅館業所以平等互惠它事實上的一個精神是照顧國內的相關的理數跟餐飲\n445163\t466984\t所以我想說這部分也是我們為什麼在這個今年初會有這樣一個決定的原因是好沒關係這個狀況大家都知道那我直接接著就叫今天的包括極端氣候災防預警的議題那我想請教一下那今天那個環境部還有氣候署他們有排員過來嗎\n469905\t492584\t那所以嘛 上次所提到的 不是氣象署喔是 署長 那個 沒事 那個環境部氣候署 那我就直接就交一下部長在這個極端氣候災防預警的這個議題上面那在環境部氣候變遷署 他們跟這個議題到底有沒有相關 還是其實跟這個議題並不相關 應該很相關 那所以啊\n493064\t517218\t那今天來講同樣是沒有在邀他們過來所以在交通委員會每次討論極端氣候或是氣候變遷的時候其實環境部他們的氣候變遷署通常都是置身事外那我們看到了其實在在氣候變遷對於地方造成的影響包括上次的一個風災卡努風災那我們也知道說這些議題來講如果有心行政院要來提高還有這個氣候變遷的這種這種問題的解決\n520160\t547748\t那我在想說在交通部其實還是要在相關的業務來去做一個整合包括還有我們的災防告警細胞的廣播服務還有以及我們的所謂的就是訊息中心那其實科技中心他其實業務他來講他跌床駕屋但是卻跟我們交通部的訊息業務來講的話其實並沒有做很暢通的一個溝通所以本期還是希望交通部能夠進行主導謝謝\n550508\t568104\t我簡單回答就是說Carmen是在上游在氣候變遷這一塊那因為今天主要是汛期的這個準備啦現在就我們陸海空的準備所以我們現在還是從我們交通部的準備來做一個報告這樣子但是的確兩個是相關的很相關的對阿是相關的所以到時候他們沒有來嘛對阿是OK好謝謝\n","txt":"有請部長\n那謝謝部長那我想說今天針對大家關心的議題也是包括我們是否是屬於一個開放的態度來面對許多的重大政策那我想先就教您說目前美規的Toyota的實驗卡在新車台灣買不買得到那當然我可以直接跟你講說這買不到因為2020年11月26號\n車輛安全中心VSCC發文給中華民國車輛進口商協會就是不得已少量車輛還來進行導入那當然說這是中華民國的相關法規那在美國貿易代表戴琦在3月29號也公布了2024各國貿易障礙報告NTE他也點名了台灣對美規車型的一個技術障礙限制美國車進入台灣市場還我想就叫進行總量管制\n我先請市長先回答一下\n這個部分跟委員報告一下這個最主要如果說要談源頭的話最主要是那個車輛安全法規的調和啦那這個目前就是說國際車輛安全法規的調和在APEC會議裡面大家有共識就是調和聯合國UAECE的這個法規那因為美國的聯邦法規是另外它有一個這個系統所以這個目前這個相關這個符合美國聯邦法規但是不符合這個聯合國法規的\n所以說我們主營是因為我們是NU ECE的法規檢測所以台灣採取的部分所以未來會頂得住壓力嗎?\n跟這個委員報告一下這個從這個就是95年實施這個條和聯合國法規一直到現在都是這樣子的一個這個法規遷移所以說是還沒有答案但是我在想不管是OPEN還是COURSE的部分都要跟全國民眾做報告因為我們還是必須要以民為先那不能大家所關心的事情拖到旁邊\n那同樣的那接著再就交到部長我們剛才講到美國那再來講中國大陸那目前今天大家的質詢熱點是在於觀光的部分那在下修這個1200萬人到1000萬人其實\n這個事情我相信各個委員辦公室都接到了許多包括旅遊業者、飯店業者、民宿業者各式各樣的一個陳情包括住宿業者就連今天下午本席的辦公室也會有各地的一個相關同業工會也會來陳情這個部分那\n以目前來講阿我想先請教一下部長您記得在賴清德就是準總統那時候在提說觀光產業是無煙囪的工業可以創造許多的就業機會那時候喊出了1200萬人能夠來台灣希望能夠走進世界讓世界擁抱台灣可是回頭來講\n那在去年喊600萬可是到今年原本喊的1200萬在選舉前喊一喊結果現在還下修那我想要就教一下部長那在今年的話真的能夠達到1000萬嗎?\n現在第一季大概快兩百萬但是它的這個整個一頁開始到上頁就逐頁增加所以我們是看好就是說慢慢隨著包括航線包括全世界公安的復甦會越來越增加那的確在這個公安署署長這邊有跟我說明過他們同仁整體的考量在國內\n李卓人議員\n大陸那邊會把自由醒候團客放進來的跡象所以我們現在初步大概我有同意他們這樣的一個下修在6月1號啊那入團團客已經不能再去大陸那現在兩岸的關係其實看起來是明顯就是冰凍起來\n那這樣子如何能夠有觀光客那我是想要就教一下部長像目前來講入客來台的這個部分那等於是冰凍起來的這個決定啊是您的決定還是陸委會的決定\n現在兩岸當然就是說都是跨部會討論的結果真的不是交通部一個部會但是我們的確在討論過程中是兩岸平等互惠的這個往來是重要\n所以我們一直也期待事實上我們門也開著說如果他願意比如說開放的話我們也會開放目前也是這樣所以我想說剛剛所談到的雖然我們現在下修一千萬但是不代表我們就是努力就是會限制在一千萬我們會繼續來努力來進行\n路委會的責任必須要由交通部來背以及包括觀光署以及全國的觀光產業來受到觀光的衝擊\n所以我的建議還是認為說其實目前今年度的話其實去年是六百萬當然我們講說景氣復甦但是其實目前各國的景氣那也都是還是目前沒有那麼好的一個狀況所以本期還是建議在達不到一千萬的這個水準跟那個目標的時候我覺得還是要務實來看待那想請問一下部長目前對於這樣子下修的時候在相關的旅遊業民宿業有沒有任何的一個協助的輔導方案\n這個本來就是一個很務實的一個檢討那麼主要是路客不來\n就是中國那邊不四處善意的話所以我們這個部分是以來台來算的我都想這種就是互相的啦因為說我們這邊不要過去那再說他們不來其實這種都互相我相信現在的兩岸關係在馬英九執政時期來講現在其實都是越是推向兵兇戰委啦所以說\n我還是會建議說我們務實看待以目前遭受到的衝擊的時候那如何來去對於相關國內的業者做補貼事實上我跟委員報告就是說我們希望平等互惠也是一個原因就是說如果我們單向比如說把團客送到大陸去他沒有來那這樣是影響我們國內的比如說南投的理數業、旅館業所以平等互惠它事實上的一個精神是照顧國內的相關的理數跟餐飲\n所以我想說這部分也是我們為什麼在這個今年初會有這樣一個決定的原因是好沒關係這個狀況大家都知道那我直接接著就叫今天的包括極端氣候災防預警的議題那我想請教一下那今天那個環境部還有氣候署他們有排員過來嗎\n那所以嘛 上次所提到的 不是氣象署喔是 署長 那個 沒事 那個環境部氣候署 那我就直接就交一下部長在這個極端氣候災防預警的這個議題上面那在環境部氣候變遷署 他們跟這個議題到底有沒有相關 還是其實跟這個議題並不相關 應該很相關 那所以啊\n那今天來講同樣是沒有在邀他們過來所以在交通委員會每次討論極端氣候或是氣候變遷的時候其實環境部他們的氣候變遷署通常都是置身事外那我們看到了其實在在氣候變遷對於地方造成的影響包括上次的一個風災卡努風災那我們也知道說這些議題來講如果有心行政院要來提高還有這個氣候變遷的這種這種問題的解決\n那我在想說在交通部其實還是要在相關的業務來去做一個整合包括還有我們的災防告警細胞的廣播服務還有以及我們的所謂的就是訊息中心那其實科技中心他其實業務他來講他跌床駕屋但是卻跟我們交通部的訊息業務來講的話其實並沒有做很暢通的一個溝通所以本期還是希望交通部能夠進行主導謝謝\n我簡單回答就是說Carmen是在上游在氣候變遷這一塊那因為今天主要是汛期的這個準備啦現在就我們陸海空的準備所以我們現在還是從我們交通部的準備來做一個報告這樣子但是的確兩個是相關的很相關的對阿是相關的所以到時候他們沒有來嘛對阿是OK好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:17.540 --> 00:17.720\n有請部長\n\n00:29.807 --> 00:51.483\n那謝謝部長那我想說今天針對大家關心的議題也是包括我們是否是屬於一個開放的態度來面對許多的重大政策那我想先就教您說目前美規的Toyota的實驗卡在新車台灣買不買得到那當然我可以直接跟你講說這買不到因為2020年11月26號\n\n00:55.225 --> 01:22.796\n車輛安全中心VSCC發文給中華民國車輛進口商協會就是不得已少量車輛還來進行導入那當然說這是中華民國的相關法規那在美國貿易代表戴琦在3月29號也公布了2024各國貿易障礙報告NTE他也點名了台灣對美規車型的一個技術障礙限制美國車進入台灣市場還我想就叫進行總量管制\n\n01:23.436 --> 01:23.736\n我先請市長先回答一下\n\n01:33.293 --> 01:59.786\n這個部分跟委員報告一下這個最主要如果說要談源頭的話最主要是那個車輛安全法規的調和啦那這個目前就是說國際車輛安全法規的調和在APEC會議裡面大家有共識就是調和聯合國UAECE的這個法規那因為美國的聯邦法規是另外它有一個這個系統所以這個目前這個相關這個符合美國聯邦法規但是不符合這個聯合國法規的\n\n02:01.527 --> 02:10.143\n所以說我們主營是因為我們是NUECE的法規檢測所以台灣採取的部分所以未來會頂得住壓力嗎?\n\n02:11.469 --> 02:32.507\n跟這個委員報告一下這個從這個就是95年實施這個條和聯合國法規一直到現在都是這樣子的一個這個法規遷移所以說是還沒有答案但是我在想不管是OPEN還是COURSE的部分都要跟全國民眾做報告因為我們還是必須要以民為先那不能大家所關心的事情拖到旁邊\n\n02:33.248 --> 02:44.559\n那同樣的那接著再就交到部長我們剛才講到美國那再來講中國大陸那目前今天大家的質詢熱點是在於觀光的部分那在下修這個1200萬人到1000萬人其實\n\n02:48.702 --> 03:04.982\n這個事情我相信各個委員辦公室都接到了許多包括旅遊業者、飯店業者、民宿業者各式各樣的一個陳情包括住宿業者就連今天下午本席的辦公室也會有各地的一個相關同業工會也會來陳情這個部分那\n\n03:05.703 --> 03:27.888\n以目前來講阿我想先請教一下部長您記得在賴清德就是準總統那時候在提說觀光產業是無煙囪的工業可以創造許多的就業機會那時候喊出了1200萬人能夠來台灣希望能夠走進世界讓世界擁抱台灣可是回頭來講\n\n03:29.068 --> 03:42.842\n那在去年喊600萬可是到今年原本喊的1200萬在選舉前喊一喊結果現在還下修那我想要就教一下部長那在今年的話真的能夠達到1000萬嗎?\n\n03:46.569 --> 04:10.320\n現在第一季大概快兩百萬但是它的這個整個一頁開始到上頁就逐頁增加所以我們是看好就是說慢慢隨著包括航線包括全世界公安的復甦會越來越增加那的確在這個公安署署長這邊有跟我說明過他們同仁整體的考量在國內\n\n04:12.461 --> 04:12.581\n李卓人議員\n\n04:33.081 --> 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