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00:00:59,040\n那對於這些受到影響的國人的後盾政府應該是可以幫助提供一些援助那請問這部分勞動部有哪一些相關的措施已經啟動了嗎我們第一時間點就是4月3日當天我們就馬上啟動那個那個零工措施就是說我們針對這個\n\n3\n00:01:00,881 --> 00:01:26,822\n因為這次地震受損需要重建的家園這些民眾我們提供零工2000個我們有2000個零工機會那每個勞工他每個月的上班工作時數是最高150小時那以時薪183塊計算最高可以領到2747人的補助那另外就是當天那個後來行政院宣告\n\n4\n00:01:27,563 --> 00:01:44,968\n花蓮是災區所以針對災區的這些舊保、老保、子保的這個被保險人我們就依照災保法的規定提供他6個月的這個保險費的補助另外就是說他那天如果因為因為這個天災受傷\n\n5\n00:01:46,829 --> 00:02:04,359\n好那這個沒有辦法工作而且沒有領到原來的薪資給付那我們就是從他受傷當天開始我們就給他這個傷病給付所以這個都是我們已經開始啟動的OK謝謝我想勞動部這樣的作為應該對\n\n6\n00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:31,754\n這些勞工朋友或者是他的家人會得到很大的幫助那其實我們也知道有礦工啊有邊坡修復員剛剛也有委員提到因為他們在工作期間受遭遇不幸嘛所以我想勞動部提供完整的協助對他們來講應該是幫助很大那也是應該勞動部該有的作為那我們也知道說勞動部其實也要這樣提供臨時工作機會來協助災區的復員\n\n7\n00:02:35,436 --> 00:02:50,527\n那這個災區本身就是有它高的風險那這一部分不知道勞工部在針對勞工進入到相關的災區做復原的時候怎麼去確保這些人員的安全目前的積極作為又包括哪一些\n\n8\n00:02:51,303 --> 00:03:13,220\n其實他就是做一些比較簡易的清理工作不是那種說要去拆那個青島的建築物或其他危險的工沒有我們這種零工的工作都是比較簡易的然後安全的工作主要是清理家園做一些清潔的工作垃圾清運等等\n\n9\n00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:42,086\n希望他們不要再受傷或者是至少他在...因為這個林宮做事已經施行多年各縣市政府、鄉鎮公所都很有經驗他們派工都很有經驗另外林宮也有加勞保勞健保都有還有紙保所以該有的保障都會在一個月時間處理好這個雖然是簡易的清理工萬一受傷一樣送我們在紙保的保障\n\n10\n00:03:42,726 --> 00:04:07,332\nOK,這樣非常好至少他們上工之前就知道他們是受到完整的保護的那我們還是就來談談今天的這個育嬰假的彈性化的部分那其實我們之前也知道女性經濟力是很值得繼續提升的部分那也看到還是有4個比較容易受影響的這些問題\n\n11\n00:04:09,172 --> 00:04:25,349\n這部分不知道如何能夠來完善員工的職場育兒包括對女性同仁他們在做這個經濟力付出的過程當中所受到的一些影響這部分有沒有更完善的一個職場環境的一些建構\n\n12\n00:04:27,059 --> 00:04:43,784\n對,我們其實這幾年一直在就是針對如何能夠營造友善的生養的環境在努力啦那包括說像我們也鼓勵男性一起來參與育兒所以我們在整個這個比如說我們的那個\n\n13\n00:04:44,984 --> 00:05:07,853\n申請以前是只能父母親單方申請我們現在讓他可以分別或同時申請都可以孕留子停薪那在這個申請的日數以前是要6個月以上我們現在只要滿30天就可以就短期的孕留停也可以另外就是那個津貼的因為通常就是那個\n\n14\n00:05:09,433 --> 00:05:28,050\n經濟性是最主要的考量我們也在這個在除了原有的那個育嬰留停六成以外另外公務預算也補貼了兩成的薪資補助那這些都是希望讓這個育兒的部分能夠更優化更優化是是\n\n15\n00:05:28,470 --> 00:05:50,435\n所以才會有這個試辦企劃希望能夠有更好的可能性對那試辦企劃就是希望就是針對很多委員還有各界的一些倡議希望更彈性所以我們現在在做這樣的方向的研議就是說先職場上試辦看看那整個有一個成效之後我們再來做一個未來一個\n\n16\n00:05:52,515 --> 00:06:13,213\n整個制度要怎麼來更建構更友善朝這個方向來努力當然也更鼓勵這些我們的男性職場的同仁能夠共同分擔家庭育兒的照顧不過看起來是慢慢的在增加今天聽您的報告裡面也的確有明顯的成長\n\n17\n00:06:14,094 --> 00:06:38,736\n不過到今年年初我們看下一個畫面會知道事實上還是只有三成左右我們很期待這樣的努力可以透過部裡面的宣傳讓社會大眾尤其是在育兒家庭有更多的男性同仁可以一起來參與這部分就期待繼續來加強會持續來宣導\n\n18\n00:06:40,137 --> 00:06:55,881\n所以我們目前在積極在推動這個彈性育嬰的假期試辦計畫裡面早上也有聽您報告試辦的這個內容還有配套的誘因那當然目前還談不上修法期待是透過這個試辦計畫以後再做相關的處理\n\n19\n00:06:59,082 --> 00:07:24,365\n那在這個報告裡面您有提到說勞動部跟所屬的各個機關也希望都能夠參與試辦那這部分不知道目前喔雖然是5月才開始嘛那有沒有瞭解看看各個單位的試辦的參與情形公部門的部分有4家的國營機構參與那本部就勞動部還有我們所屬的包含勞保局啦\n\n20\n00:07:25,386 --> 00:07:47,321\n發展署的分署我們都帶頭加入來試辦那因為本來原來是想說5月1號上路但是因為委員也認為說我們這個應該再把整個計畫讓它更完整更有誘因所以我們大概3月28也跟一些關心這個議題的民間團體也開會然後也在4月\n\n21\n00:07:50,223 --> 00:08:19,281\n4月3日跟全序部相關的部會有再開過就是說開過會看如何來4月2日啦4月2日邀請全序部還有人總還有我們勞保局中央健保署那就說要研議這些配套措施看看怎麼樣來有適當的誘因所以這個部分我也交代業務單位說我們試試讓這個制度調整更完整以後再來正式上路啦這樣可能會比較好一點\n\n22\n00:08:20,161 --> 00:08:40,244\n其實公司部門如果能夠互相的激勵的話市部門也不少我們現在總共有61共包括公司部63個單位已經表明要來參與的意願所以我們後續也會開說明會像這些民間企業的部分也要開說明會告訴他們相關的一些規範\n\n23\n00:08:41,665 --> 00:09:05,119\n因為上週詢問過相關部門那個時候貴單位是說因為尊重參與單位不方便提供參與名單不過今天聽部長講就覺得真的公部門如果能夠一起共同來參與而且是真的願意積極來參與的話相信對私部門來講也有很大的鼓勵或引導的作用\n\n24\n00:09:05,999 --> 00:09:25,297\n最後其實就是我們也關心國軍我們知道國軍大部分都是男性為主8乘5是屬於我們的男性的軍事官女性相對是比較少我們也看到國軍申請育嬰假的人數男性還是相對偏低\n\n25\n00:09:26,298 --> 00:09:44,287\n其實如果能夠提高藍性育嬰留停的比例國防部應該可以變成一個指標不知道這邊國防部有沒有什麼樣的一個鼓勵措施我是國防部人事次長室人管處處長寇乃德因為時間不多我簡要跟您報告一下我先從數據講\n\n26\n00:09:46,388 --> 00:09:50,530\n我們從107年到112年整個育嬰留職停薪的人員從792元有提升到112年的1738元成長幅度是217%其中男性的比例男性在107年是佔30%到了112年目前是到46%今年到目前為止這個比例也是蓋頭\n\n27\n00:10:13,274 --> 00:10:39,540\n那在這邊也無意特別去好像凸顯我們國軍很好國防部很好其他部位不好其實也未必因為他當中有一些人力結構的問題國軍畢竟是男性比較多但是就整個數量來講我們配合的相關的政策一直在宣導然後再加上我們所有的這個國軍的三安政策部隊安全軍人安心\n\n28\n00:10:40,860 --> 00:11:03,999\n然後這個軍艦安心軍人安家這樣的一個政策的推導推廣之後建構這個優質的服役環境我相信我們未來攸關我們所有同仁權益的事情我們都會全力來推動是的好謝謝說明那就大家繼續努力謝謝好現在\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n13586\t37955\t謝謝主席有請部長請許部長王委員好部長好針對這次地震發生過程裡面其實大家都感受到非常非常的嚴重那也有很多失去家人也失去了家園因此有很多人受傷我想大家都同感不捨\n38823\t59040\t那對於這些受到影響的國人的後盾政府應該是可以幫助提供一些援助那請問這部分勞動部有哪一些相關的措施已經啟動了嗎我們第一時間點就是4月3日當天我們就馬上啟動那個那個零工措施就是說我們針對這個\n60881\t86822\t因為這次地震受損需要重建的家園這些民眾我們提供零工2000個我們有2000個零工機會那每個勞工他每個月的上班工作時數是最高150小時那以時薪183塊計算最高可以領到2747人的補助那另外就是當天那個後來行政院宣告\n87563\t104968\t花蓮是災區所以針對災區的這些舊保、老保、子保的這個被保險人我們就依照災保法的規定提供他6個月的這個保險費的補助另外就是說他那天如果因為因為這個天災受傷\n106829\t124359\t好那這個沒有辦法工作而且沒有領到原來的薪資給付那我們就是從他受傷當天開始我們就給他這個傷病給付所以這個都是我們已經開始啟動的OK謝謝我想勞動部這樣的作為應該對\n125780\t151754\t這些勞工朋友或者是他的家人會得到很大的幫助那其實我們也知道有礦工啊有邊坡修復員剛剛也有委員提到因為他們在工作期間受遭遇不幸嘛所以我想勞動部提供完整的協助對他們來講應該是幫助很大那也是應該勞動部該有的作為那我們也知道說勞動部其實也要這樣提供臨時工作機會來協助災區的復員\n155436\t170527\t那這個災區本身就是有它高的風險那這一部分不知道勞工部在針對勞工進入到相關的災區做復原的時候怎麼去確保這些人員的安全目前的積極作為又包括哪一些\n171303\t193220\t其實他就是做一些比較簡易的清理工作不是那種說要去拆那個青島的建築物或其他危險的工沒有我們這種零工的工作都是比較簡易的然後安全的工作主要是清理家園做一些清潔的工作垃圾清運等等\n194000\t222086\t希望他們不要再受傷或者是至少他在...因為這個林宮做事已經施行多年各縣市政府、鄉鎮公所都很有經驗他們派工都很有經驗另外林宮也有加勞保勞健保都有還有紙保所以該有的保障都會在一個月時間處理好這個雖然是簡易的清理工萬一受傷一樣送我們在紙保的保障\n222726\t247332\tOK,這樣非常好至少他們上工之前就知道他們是受到完整的保護的那我們還是就來談談今天的這個育嬰假的彈性化的部分那其實我們之前也知道女性經濟力是很值得繼續提升的部分那也看到還是有4個比較容易受影響的這些問題\n249172\t265349\t這部分不知道如何能夠來完善員工的職場育兒包括對女性同仁他們在做這個經濟力付出的過程當中所受到的一些影響這部分有沒有更完善的一個職場環境的一些建構\n267059\t283784\t對,我們其實這幾年一直在就是針對如何能夠營造友善的生養的環境在努力啦那包括說像我們也鼓勵男性一起來參與育兒所以我們在整個這個比如說我們的那個\n284984\t307853\t申請以前是只能父母親單方申請我們現在讓他可以分別或同時申請都可以孕留子停薪那在這個申請的日數以前是要6個月以上我們現在只要滿30天就可以就短期的孕留停也可以另外就是那個津貼的因為通常就是那個\n309433\t328050\t經濟性是最主要的考量我們也在這個在除了原有的那個育嬰留停六成以外另外公務預算也補貼了兩成的薪資補助那這些都是希望讓這個育兒的部分能夠更優化更優化是是\n328470\t350435\t所以才會有這個試辦企劃希望能夠有更好的可能性對那試辦企劃就是希望就是針對很多委員還有各界的一些倡議希望更彈性所以我們現在在做這樣的方向的研議就是說先職場上試辦看看那整個有一個成效之後我們再來做一個未來一個\n352515\t373213\t整個制度要怎麼來更建構更友善朝這個方向來努力當然也更鼓勵這些我們的男性職場的同仁能夠共同分擔家庭育兒的照顧不過看起來是慢慢的在增加今天聽您的報告裡面也的確有明顯的成長\n374094\t398736\t不過到今年年初我們看下一個畫面會知道事實上還是只有三成左右我們很期待這樣的努力可以透過部裡面的宣傳讓社會大眾尤其是在育兒家庭有更多的男性同仁可以一起來參與這部分就期待繼續來加強會持續來宣導\n400137\t415881\t所以我們目前在積極在推動這個彈性育嬰的假期試辦計畫裡面早上也有聽您報告試辦的這個內容還有配套的誘因那當然目前還談不上修法期待是透過這個試辦計畫以後再做相關的處理\n419082\t444365\t那在這個報告裡面您有提到說勞動部跟所屬的各個機關也希望都能夠參與試辦那這部分不知道目前喔雖然是5月才開始嘛那有沒有瞭解看看各個單位的試辦的參與情形公部門的部分有4家的國營機構參與那本部就勞動部還有我們所屬的包含勞保局啦\n445386\t467321\t發展署的分署我們都帶頭加入來試辦那因為本來原來是想說5月1號上路但是因為委員也認為說我們這個應該再把整個計畫讓它更完整更有誘因所以我們大概3月28也跟一些關心這個議題的民間團體也開會然後也在4月\n470223\t499281\t4月3日跟全序部相關的部會有再開過就是說開過會看如何來4月2日啦4月2日邀請全序部還有人總還有我們勞保局中央健保署那就說要研議這些配套措施看看怎麼樣來有適當的誘因所以這個部分我也交代業務單位說我們試試讓這個制度調整更完整以後再來正式上路啦這樣可能會比較好一點\n500161\t520244\t其實公司部門如果能夠互相的激勵的話市部門也不少我們現在總共有61共包括公司部63個單位已經表明要來參與的意願所以我們後續也會開說明會像這些民間企業的部分也要開說明會告訴他們相關的一些規範\n521665\t545119\t因為上週詢問過相關部門那個時候貴單位是說因為尊重參與單位不方便提供參與名單不過今天聽部長講就覺得真的公部門如果能夠一起共同來參與而且是真的願意積極來參與的話相信對私部門來講也有很大的鼓勵或引導的作用\n545999\t565297\t最後其實就是我們也關心國軍我們知道國軍大部分都是男性為主8乘5是屬於我們的男性的軍事官女性相對是比較少我們也看到國軍申請育嬰假的人數男性還是相對偏低\n566298\t584287\t其實如果能夠提高藍性育嬰留停的比例國防部應該可以變成一個指標不知道這邊國防部有沒有什麼樣的一個鼓勵措施我是國防部人事次長室人管處處長寇乃德因為時間不多我簡要跟您報告一下我先從數據講\n586388\t590530\t我們從107年到112年整個育嬰留職停薪的人員從792元有提升到112年的1738元成長幅度是217%其中男性的比例男性在107年是佔30%到了112年目前是到46%今年到目前為止這個比例也是蓋頭\n613274\t639540\t那在這邊也無意特別去好像凸顯我們國軍很好國防部很好其他部位不好其實也未必因為他當中有一些人力結構的問題國軍畢竟是男性比較多但是就整個數量來講我們配合的相關的政策一直在宣導然後再加上我們所有的這個國軍的三安政策部隊安全軍人安心\n640860\t663999\t然後這個軍艦安心軍人安家這樣的一個政策的推導推廣之後建構這個優質的服役環境我相信我們未來攸關我們所有同仁權益的事情我們都會全力來推動是的好謝謝說明那就大家繼續努力謝謝好現在\n","txt":"謝謝主席有請部長請許部長王委員好部長好針對這次地震發生過程裡面其實大家都感受到非常非常的嚴重那也有很多失去家人也失去了家園因此有很多人受傷我想大家都同感不捨\n那對於這些受到影響的國人的後盾政府應該是可以幫助提供一些援助那請問這部分勞動部有哪一些相關的措施已經啟動了嗎我們第一時間點就是4月3日當天我們就馬上啟動那個那個零工措施就是說我們針對這個\n因為這次地震受損需要重建的家園這些民眾我們提供零工2000個我們有2000個零工機會那每個勞工他每個月的上班工作時數是最高150小時那以時薪183塊計算最高可以領到2747人的補助那另外就是當天那個後來行政院宣告\n花蓮是災區所以針對災區的這些舊保、老保、子保的這個被保險人我們就依照災保法的規定提供他6個月的這個保險費的補助另外就是說他那天如果因為因為這個天災受傷\n好那這個沒有辦法工作而且沒有領到原來的薪資給付那我們就是從他受傷當天開始我們就給他這個傷病給付所以這個都是我們已經開始啟動的OK謝謝我想勞動部這樣的作為應該對\n這些勞工朋友或者是他的家人會得到很大的幫助那其實我們也知道有礦工啊有邊坡修復員剛剛也有委員提到因為他們在工作期間受遭遇不幸嘛所以我想勞動部提供完整的協助對他們來講應該是幫助很大那也是應該勞動部該有的作為那我們也知道說勞動部其實也要這樣提供臨時工作機會來協助災區的復員\n那這個災區本身就是有它高的風險那這一部分不知道勞工部在針對勞工進入到相關的災區做復原的時候怎麼去確保這些人員的安全目前的積極作為又包括哪一些\n其實他就是做一些比較簡易的清理工作不是那種說要去拆那個青島的建築物或其他危險的工沒有我們這種零工的工作都是比較簡易的然後安全的工作主要是清理家園做一些清潔的工作垃圾清運等等\n希望他們不要再受傷或者是至少他在...因為這個林宮做事已經施行多年各縣市政府、鄉鎮公所都很有經驗他們派工都很有經驗另外林宮也有加勞保勞健保都有還有紙保所以該有的保障都會在一個月時間處理好這個雖然是簡易的清理工萬一受傷一樣送我們在紙保的保障\nOK,這樣非常好至少他們上工之前就知道他們是受到完整的保護的那我們還是就來談談今天的這個育嬰假的彈性化的部分那其實我們之前也知道女性經濟力是很值得繼續提升的部分那也看到還是有4個比較容易受影響的這些問題\n這部分不知道如何能夠來完善員工的職場育兒包括對女性同仁他們在做這個經濟力付出的過程當中所受到的一些影響這部分有沒有更完善的一個職場環境的一些建構\n對,我們其實這幾年一直在就是針對如何能夠營造友善的生養的環境在努力啦那包括說像我們也鼓勵男性一起來參與育兒所以我們在整個這個比如說我們的那個\n申請以前是只能父母親單方申請我們現在讓他可以分別或同時申請都可以孕留子停薪那在這個申請的日數以前是要6個月以上我們現在只要滿30天就可以就短期的孕留停也可以另外就是那個津貼的因為通常就是那個\n經濟性是最主要的考量我們也在這個在除了原有的那個育嬰留停六成以外另外公務預算也補貼了兩成的薪資補助那這些都是希望讓這個育兒的部分能夠更優化更優化是是\n所以才會有這個試辦企劃希望能夠有更好的可能性對那試辦企劃就是希望就是針對很多委員還有各界的一些倡議希望更彈性所以我們現在在做這樣的方向的研議就是說先職場上試辦看看那整個有一個成效之後我們再來做一個未來一個\n整個制度要怎麼來更建構更友善朝這個方向來努力當然也更鼓勵這些我們的男性職場的同仁能夠共同分擔家庭育兒的照顧不過看起來是慢慢的在增加今天聽您的報告裡面也的確有明顯的成長\n不過到今年年初我們看下一個畫面會知道事實上還是只有三成左右我們很期待這樣的努力可以透過部裡面的宣傳讓社會大眾尤其是在育兒家庭有更多的男性同仁可以一起來參與這部分就期待繼續來加強會持續來宣導\n所以我們目前在積極在推動這個彈性育嬰的假期試辦計畫裡面早上也有聽您報告試辦的這個內容還有配套的誘因那當然目前還談不上修法期待是透過這個試辦計畫以後再做相關的處理\n那在這個報告裡面您有提到說勞動部跟所屬的各個機關也希望都能夠參與試辦那這部分不知道目前喔雖然是5月才開始嘛那有沒有瞭解看看各個單位的試辦的參與情形公部門的部分有4家的國營機構參與那本部就勞動部還有我們所屬的包含勞保局啦\n發展署的分署我們都帶頭加入來試辦那因為本來原來是想說5月1號上路但是因為委員也認為說我們這個應該再把整個計畫讓它更完整更有誘因所以我們大概3月28也跟一些關心這個議題的民間團體也開會然後也在4月\n4月3日跟全序部相關的部會有再開過就是說開過會看如何來4月2日啦4月2日邀請全序部還有人總還有我們勞保局中央健保署那就說要研議這些配套措施看看怎麼樣來有適當的誘因所以這個部分我也交代業務單位說我們試試讓這個制度調整更完整以後再來正式上路啦這樣可能會比較好一點\n其實公司部門如果能夠互相的激勵的話市部門也不少我們現在總共有61共包括公司部63個單位已經表明要來參與的意願所以我們後續也會開說明會像這些民間企業的部分也要開說明會告訴他們相關的一些規範\n因為上週詢問過相關部門那個時候貴單位是說因為尊重參與單位不方便提供參與名單不過今天聽部長講就覺得真的公部門如果能夠一起共同來參與而且是真的願意積極來參與的話相信對私部門來講也有很大的鼓勵或引導的作用\n最後其實就是我們也關心國軍我們知道國軍大部分都是男性為主8乘5是屬於我們的男性的軍事官女性相對是比較少我們也看到國軍申請育嬰假的人數男性還是相對偏低\n其實如果能夠提高藍性育嬰留停的比例國防部應該可以變成一個指標不知道這邊國防部有沒有什麼樣的一個鼓勵措施我是國防部人事次長室人管處處長寇乃德因為時間不多我簡要跟您報告一下我先從數據講\n我們從107年到112年整個育嬰留職停薪的人員從792元有提升到112年的1738元成長幅度是217%其中男性的比例男性在107年是佔30%到了112年目前是到46%今年到目前為止這個比例也是蓋頭\n那在這邊也無意特別去好像凸顯我們國軍很好國防部很好其他部位不好其實也未必因為他當中有一些人力結構的問題國軍畢竟是男性比較多但是就整個數量來講我們配合的相關的政策一直在宣導然後再加上我們所有的這個國軍的三安政策部隊安全軍人安心\n然後這個軍艦安心軍人安家這樣的一個政策的推導推廣之後建構這個優質的服役環境我相信我們未來攸關我們所有同仁權益的事情我們都會全力來推動是的好謝謝說明那就大家繼續努力謝謝好現在\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:13.586 --> 00:37.955\n謝謝主席有請部長請許部長王委員好部長好針對這次地震發生過程裡面其實大家都感受到非常非常的嚴重那也有很多失去家人也失去了家園因此有很多人受傷我想大家都同感不捨\n\n00:38.823 --> 00:59.040\n那對於這些受到影響的國人的後盾政府應該是可以幫助提供一些援助那請問這部分勞動部有哪一些相關的措施已經啟動了嗎我們第一時間點就是4月3日當天我們就馬上啟動那個那個零工措施就是說我們針對這個\n\n01:00.881 --> 01:26.822\n因為這次地震受損需要重建的家園這些民眾我們提供零工2000個我們有2000個零工機會那每個勞工他每個月的上班工作時數是最高150小時那以時薪183塊計算最高可以領到2747人的補助那另外就是當天那個後來行政院宣告\n\n01:27.563 --> 01:44.968\n花蓮是災區所以針對災區的這些舊保、老保、子保的這個被保險人我們就依照災保法的規定提供他6個月的這個保險費的補助另外就是說他那天如果因為因為這個天災受傷\n\n01:46.829 --> 02:04.359\n好那這個沒有辦法工作而且沒有領到原來的薪資給付那我們就是從他受傷當天開始我們就給他這個傷病給付所以這個都是我們已經開始啟動的OK謝謝我想勞動部這樣的作為應該對\n\n02:05.780 --> 02:31.754\n這些勞工朋友或者是他的家人會得到很大的幫助那其實我們也知道有礦工啊有邊坡修復員剛剛也有委員提到因為他們在工作期間受遭遇不幸嘛所以我想勞動部提供完整的協助對他們來講應該是幫助很大那也是應該勞動部該有的作為那我們也知道說勞動部其實也要這樣提供臨時工作機會來協助災區的復員\n\n02:35.436 --> 02:50.527\n那這個災區本身就是有它高的風險那這一部分不知道勞工部在針對勞工進入到相關的災區做復原的時候怎麼去確保這些人員的安全目前的積極作為又包括哪一些\n\n02:51.303 --> 03:13.220\n其實他就是做一些比較簡易的清理工作不是那種說要去拆那個青島的建築物或其他危險的工沒有我們這種零工的工作都是比較簡易的然後安全的工作主要是清理家園做一些清潔的工作垃圾清運等等\n\n03:14.000 --> 03:42.086\n希望他們不要再受傷或者是至少他在...因為這個林宮做事已經施行多年各縣市政府、鄉鎮公所都很有經驗他們派工都很有經驗另外林宮也有加勞保勞健保都有還有紙保所以該有的保障都會在一個月時間處理好這個雖然是簡易的清理工萬一受傷一樣送我們在紙保的保障\n\n03:42.726 --> 04:07.332\nOK,這樣非常好至少他們上工之前就知道他們是受到完整的保護的那我們還是就來談談今天的這個育嬰假的彈性化的部分那其實我們之前也知道女性經濟力是很值得繼續提升的部分那也看到還是有4個比較容易受影響的這些問題\n\n04:09.172 --> 04:25.349\n這部分不知道如何能夠來完善員工的職場育兒包括對女性同仁他們在做這個經濟力付出的過程當中所受到的一些影響這部分有沒有更完善的一個職場環境的一些建構\n\n04:27.059 --> 04:43.784\n對,我們其實這幾年一直在就是針對如何能夠營造友善的生養的環境在努力啦那包括說像我們也鼓勵男性一起來參與育兒所以我們在整個這個比如說我們的那個\n\n04:44.984 --> 05:07.853\n申請以前是只能父母親單方申請我們現在讓他可以分別或同時申請都可以孕留子停薪那在這個申請的日數以前是要6個月以上我們現在只要滿30天就可以就短期的孕留停也可以另外就是那個津貼的因為通常就是那個\n\n05:09.433 --> 05:28.050\n經濟性是最主要的考量我們也在這個在除了原有的那個育嬰留停六成以外另外公務預算也補貼了兩成的薪資補助那這些都是希望讓這個育兒的部分能夠更優化更優化是是\n\n05:28.470 --> 05:50.435\n所以才會有這個試辦企劃希望能夠有更好的可能性對那試辦企劃就是希望就是針對很多委員還有各界的一些倡議希望更彈性所以我們現在在做這樣的方向的研議就是說先職場上試辦看看那整個有一個成效之後我們再來做一個未來一個\n\n05:52.515 --> 06:13.213\n整個制度要怎麼來更建構更友善朝這個方向來努力當然也更鼓勵這些我們的男性職場的同仁能夠共同分擔家庭育兒的照顧不過看起來是慢慢的在增加今天聽您的報告裡面也的確有明顯的成長\n\n06:14.094 --> 06:38.736\n不過到今年年初我們看下一個畫面會知道事實上還是只有三成左右我們很期待這樣的努力可以透過部裡面的宣傳讓社會大眾尤其是在育兒家庭有更多的男性同仁可以一起來參與這部分就期待繼續來加強會持續來宣導\n\n06:40.137 --> 06:55.881\n所以我們目前在積極在推動這個彈性育嬰的假期試辦計畫裡面早上也有聽您報告試辦的這個內容還有配套的誘因那當然目前還談不上修法期待是透過這個試辦計畫以後再做相關的處理\n\n06:59.082 --> 07:24.365\n那在這個報告裡面您有提到說勞動部跟所屬的各個機關也希望都能夠參與試辦那這部分不知道目前喔雖然是5月才開始嘛那有沒有瞭解看看各個單位的試辦的參與情形公部門的部分有4家的國營機構參與那本部就勞動部還有我們所屬的包含勞保局啦\n\n07:25.386 --> 07:47.321\n發展署的分署我們都帶頭加入來試辦那因為本來原來是想說5月1號上路但是因為委員也認為說我們這個應該再把整個計畫讓它更完整更有誘因所以我們大概3月28也跟一些關心這個議題的民間團體也開會然後也在4月\n\n07:50.223 --> 08:19.281\n4月3日跟全序部相關的部會有再開過就是說開過會看如何來4月2日啦4月2日邀請全序部還有人總還有我們勞保局中央健保署那就說要研議這些配套措施看看怎麼樣來有適當的誘因所以這個部分我也交代業務單位說我們試試讓這個制度調整更完整以後再來正式上路啦這樣可能會比較好一點\n\n08:20.161 --> 08:40.244\n其實公司部門如果能夠互相的激勵的話市部門也不少我們現在總共有61共包括公司部63個單位已經表明要來參與的意願所以我們後續也會開說明會像這些民間企業的部分也要開說明會告訴他們相關的一些規範\n\n08:41.665 --> 09:05.119\n因為上週詢問過相關部門那個時候貴單位是說因為尊重參與單位不方便提供參與名單不過今天聽部長講就覺得真的公部門如果能夠一起共同來參與而且是真的願意積極來參與的話相信對私部門來講也有很大的鼓勵或引導的作用\n\n09:05.999 --> 09:25.297\n最後其實就是我們也關心國軍我們知道國軍大部分都是男性為主8乘5是屬於我們的男性的軍事官女性相對是比較少我們也看到國軍申請育嬰假的人數男性還是相對偏低\n\n09:26.298 --> 09:44.287\n其實如果能夠提高藍性育嬰留停的比例國防部應該可以變成一個指標不知道這邊國防部有沒有什麼樣的一個鼓勵措施我是國防部人事次長室人管處處長寇乃德因為時間不多我簡要跟您報告一下我先從數據講\n\n09:46.388 --> 09:50.530\n我們從107年到112年整個育嬰留職停薪的人員從792元有提升到112年的1738元成長幅度是217%其中男性的比例男性在107年是佔30%到了112年目前是到46%今年到目前為止這個比例也是蓋頭\n\n10:13.274 --> 10:39.540\n那在這邊也無意特別去好像凸顯我們國軍很好國防部很好其他部位不好其實也未必因為他當中有一些人力結構的問題國軍畢竟是男性比較多但是就整個數量來講我們配合的相關的政策一直在宣導然後再加上我們所有的這個國軍的三安政策部隊安全軍人安心\n\n10:40.860 --> 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