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10:28:32","影片長度":"00:11:52","會議時間":"2024-04-08T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第1會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請客家委員會主任委員率同所屬及財團法人客家公共傳播基金會董事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。(一)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（一）預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請查照案。(二)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（二）預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請查照案。(三)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（三）預算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案。(四)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（四）預算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案。(五)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（五）預算凍結20萬元書面報告，請查照案。(六)客家委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送決議（二十四）預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請查照案。三、審查或處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關大陸委員會預算凍結案計5案。(一)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「一般行政」預算凍結50萬元書面報告，請查照案。(二)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「綜合規劃業務」預算凍結200萬元專案報告，請查照案。(三)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「經濟業務」預算凍結100萬元書面報告，請查照案。(四)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「法政業務」預算凍結200萬元書面報告，請查照案。(五)大陸委員會函，為113年度中央政府總預算決議，檢送「港澳蒙藏業務」預算凍結200萬元書面報告，請查照案。）","meet":{"tmpMeeting":null,"title":"第11屆第1會期內政委員會第10次全體委員會議","term":11,"type":"委員會","sessionPeriod":1,"sessionTimes":10,"committees":[15],"id":"委員會-11-1-15-10"},"date":"2024-04-08","duration":712,"end_time":"2024-04-08T10:28:32+08:00","start_time":"2024-04-08T10:16:40+08:00","features":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"type":"Clip","gazette":{"lineno":355,"blocks":[["牛委員煦庭：（10時16分）謝謝主席，有請客委會主委。"],["主席：好，請客委會主委。"],["楊主任委員長鎮：謝謝。"],["牛委員煦庭：主委，不用緊張。主委早安！"],["楊主任委員長鎮：委員早。"],["牛委員煦庭：今天有幾件事情要跟你做一下政策的討論。我先從業務報告開始，因為大家都知道，現在是由公共電視文化事業基金會來做客家電視台、客家公共傳播基金會來做講客廣播電台，當我們現在說要推廣客家文化的時候，其實媒體的渠道還是有它的影響力，而且滿重要的。所以我想要問一下，第一個問題是，我們有看到公共傳播基金會的業務報告，它當然就是講講客廣播電台的推動狀況，但是我們沒有看到客家電視台相關的推動狀況，連你的業務報告裡面好像也沒有寫到多少東西，這個原因是什麼？你要不要說明一下？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：跟委員報告，客家電視台過去是客家委員會業務計畫當中的標案，根據政府退出廣電的條例，現在是交給公共電視台辦理，所以在補助的情況之下，我們還是業主，所以我們每次提出的報告當中會有他們的部分，但是今年開始，因為公共電視法修改以後，公共電視可以設立族群的電視台，所以客委會目前是採取跟文化部捐助公視一樣的方式，客家台正式成為公共電視集團當中的一個頻道，基於政府尊重公共媒體的獨立性，我們對它的內容不予干涉，也沒有去指揮，所以目前的情況是：它是整體公共電視台的一個部分，客委會這邊沒有直接干涉它的內容，因此也沒有將它列入我們的報告當中，就是因為性質已經改變了。"],["牛委員煦庭：好，所以基本上這個業務還是交給公共電視台負責嘛！你們說基於公共性，就不多做干涉。這個我可以理解，但是我要問一下……"],["楊主任委員長鎮：我們是改捐助啦！"],["牛委員煦庭：捐助，我知道，等一下我們會討論這個問題。因為你講到公共電視文化基金會，客家電視台也有一個諮議委員會，也就是說，雖然它有一定的公共性，但相對來講、我們從推動客家文化的角度來講，你還是要有一定的角色嘛！我們當然不是要去干涉它的製作，但是要有一定的角色。那我就問你，你們現在諮議委員會的委員有沒有官方代表？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：沒有。"],["牛委員煦庭：現在是完全沒有嗎？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：沒有。"],["牛委員煦庭：這樣的狀況會不會影響國家推動客家文化的保存和相關傳播的渠道？包含政策的宣導，會不會影響？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：因為公共電視台在法律上有授權，它是一個獨立機關，目前諮議委員會是由他們的董事會所決定，民間各界會提出建議，所以在這個過程當中，站在我們是官方的立場，雖然我們主管客家事務，對所有客家事務都非常關心，但是另一方面，基於尊重公共傳播媒體的立場，除非有出現重大爭議，我們儘量不表達意見，以減少對他們的干涉，不過如果真的有重大政策，我們會知會它，但是不會干涉和要求。"],["牛委員煦庭：好，這個算回答得很清楚，那我們就針對捐助這件事情來做一下討論。主委應該可以看到螢幕上面寫得非常清楚，客委會歷年來都是以捐助的方式來處理，近年預算有逐步增加，這對客家文化保存、推動客家語言來講當然是一件好事，但第一個是執行率好像有一定的落差，這一部分要請客委會加強檢討。第二個就是我剛剛講的，既然已經在捐助的過程中，你們一直以來都等於是出資的單位，剛剛你的回答我算可以接受，就是官方如果沒有代表，要尊重公共電視的主體性，這個本席可以接受。但是我要提一下，根據我們預算中心的一些資料，製播的節目當中，自製的比例好像不夠高喔！政府每年花了很多的錢，我們是希望相對來講可以鼓勵創新，產出很多和客家相關的、自製性的節目，但是客家電視台自製節目的比例好像不夠高，是不是可以請主委說明一下為什麼？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：跟委員報告一下，這是長期大家非常關心的問題，不過自製率的提升，也就表示說每部新的節目都要在資源平均分配的狀況下去製作，這樣就很難做出比較好的節目，所以後來我們和公共電視討論的結果是，希望將一定部分的資源集中做比較精彩而且比較好的節目上，讓這些作品可以繼續流傳。如果我們平均地把經費分配出去做比較的作品，也就是說每部作品所分到的經費會降低，就沒有辦法做出比較高水準的節目，所以過去我們在金鐘獎經常得獎，那些大體都是我們集中資源做出來的節目，我們希望能用IP經營的概念，長期將這些好的節目未來能夠透過其他的平台傳播出去。"],["牛委員煦庭：主委，因為我時間有限，這個就給你看一下，參考啦！從比例上來講，以公視的主頻來講，它大概都有四成左右的製播率，客家台大概是22%，原民台大概是23%到24%。照理來講、以創作的量能來講、當然就像我們講的以族群的現實來講，原民的數量是相對少的，所以它的製播率比較沒有那麼高，這個我們還覺得情有可原。"],["楊主任委員長鎮：是。"],["牛委員煦庭：但是你就客家的人口比例上來講，本席認為潛力其實是很夠的，所以我們是希望，既然提撥預算的比例是上升的，相對來講，製播率也要稍微要求。當然你講，我平均分配資源，然後讓這個節目內容很精彩，這個方向本席是可以理解，但是我覺得你還是要逐步要求，讓它慢慢地往上走嘛！好歹也要看到一個上升趨勢線，才能夠表示我們政府投入是鼓勵客家族群的創作等等有更好的成績。主委，是不是同意這樣的看法？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：跟委員補充一下，剛剛同事給我的資料，目前自製的比例應該是有70%，文化部的規定是50%，但目前有70%。"],["牛委員煦庭：對啊！至少要有50%嘛！"],["楊主任委員長鎮：我們會朝著這個方向，對於捐助的內容不干涉，但是對於形式上資源的分配會給予建議。"],["牛委員煦庭：你講的70%是指今年會有70%的成績嗎？你可以補充說明，沒有關係。"],["廖處長美玲：目前在112年的統計就有達到70%以上，跟委員報告。"],["牛委員煦庭：那落差為什麼會這麼大？你們做了什麼政策的調整？"],["廖處長美玲：之前計算時數的部分，新聞節目的部分沒有計入。"],["牛委員煦庭：所以新聞計入之後，自製率就提高很多，是不是？好，沒關係，這個我們一樣來做逐年的檢討，我們是希望創新的比例啦！因為新聞相對來講，製作門檻是比較低的，但是其它內容產製上面，我們還是希望可以多加油。","第二個我也要講，「新首播比率」這個我沒有做成投影片，但以新首播比率來講，就是我剛剛講的這一張，這個是新首播，我剛剛有一點講錯，我再提醒一下主委。這個就是新的東西產出來了嘛！因為主委剛剛有講，你說我們的這個自製率沒有麼高是因為我要把量能維持在做新創的節目，但是新創的比例其實也沒有很高。這兩件事情我們都希望隨著你預算的投入可以逐年上升，至少就這個方向來講，我想主委應該不會反對這個努力的方向吧？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：不反對，但是要跟委員報告，像公共電視從去年開始我們就進行合作，客家電視台就推出了名叫「星空下的黑潮島嶼」，敘述的是綠島相關的歷史，這個戲劇製作的經費就相當地高，所以如果說我們將來要把這部作品在OTT平台或是其他地方能夠播出……"],["牛委員煦庭：對，這些方向本席也都同意。"],["楊主任委員長鎮：資源就要集中啦！"],["牛委員煦庭：但是我希望，既然都有……其實你們是有努力的嘛！從剛剛答詢的過程中，其實可以看得到客委會是有一些角色的。我們希望把這個客家電視台的部分……雖然你要尊重公共電視，我同意，但你還是要把一些節目產製的內容和數據總是可以做一下統計調查，就寫在你的業務報告裡面嘛！你不用特別叫它專門弄一本，但是在業務報告裡面要增加相關的一些說明，這樣我們答詢的時間就可以降下來，可以談一些更重要的問題，好不好？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：OK，我們將來可以把這個部分的概況加進報告裡面。"],["牛委員煦庭：再來，最後一個小問題，我們現在都講ESG是一個很重要的概念，對不對？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：沒錯。"],["牛委員煦庭：112年的全國客家日你們有頒發多元文化企業的社會責任，就是客語友善企業獎，用鼓勵的方式，這一點是不錯的，遠東百貨、全家便利商店跟中華郵政因為有多做客語服務，所以就鼓勵它們，這是好事。當然，這個東西現在也在跟金管會、文化部、原民會開會研商，促進金融管理委員會修正這個企業社會責任的實務守則，希望把多元語言……我們現在就是在推廣多元語言，要納入社會公益ESG的範圍，這件事情現在有進度嗎？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：向委員報告，目前文化部、原民會和客委會開會的時候，對於條文內容已有共識，目前正進一步跟金管會討論。金管會目前考慮的是，有關S的部分，世界各國其實都較不瞭解要怎麼做，要列進去這個多元文化的時候，接下來是不是有其他議題要列入，這個還需要考量。目前為止看起來困難不大，我會繼續去協調如何比較周全地思考，不然將來如果有其他單位提出要加入什麼的話，其他各個部會也會說還有什麼要列入……"],["牛委員煦庭：從你的角度因難不大，但是金管會會不會覺得困難很大？因為這是一個跨部會要協商的問題。"],["楊主任委員長鎮：並不會覺得困難很大，但是金管會因為要考慮到其他的部會，屆時可能會提出其他的事情，先評估一下整體的情況。"],["牛委員煦庭：正在評估？大概什麼時候會有一個比較具體的結果？"],["楊主任委員長鎮：我們希望……"],["牛委員煦庭：你們希望，好，可以。"],["楊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00:02:51,003\n好所以基本上這個業務還是交給公共電視台負責嘛那你們講說基於公共性就不多做干涉這我越理解但我要問一下我們是改捐助啦捐助我知道等一下我們會討論這個問題因為你講這個公共電視文化基金會客家電視台也有一個資義委員會嘛也就是說雖然它有一定的公共性但相對來講我們從推動客家文化的角度來講你還是要有一定的角色嘛\n\n9\n00:02:51,263 --> 00:03:10,382\n我們當然不是講說去干涉它的製作嘛對不對但是要有一定的角色那我就問你們現在的質疑委員會的委員有沒有有沒有官方代表現在是完全沒有是不是那這個覺得這樣子的狀況會不會影響國家推動客家文化的保存跟相關傳播一定的渠道包含政策的宣導會不會影響\n\n10\n00:03:11,101 --> 00:03:13,022\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n11\n00:03:28,313 --> 00:03:46,407\n其餘的官方當然主管客家事務對所有客家事務都關心但人外方面竟然遵從公共傳播媒體的立場除非有出現衝突的社運事件請勿表達意見檢討對其的觀察不過像說有衝突的政策本來是在地的只不過是指揮在地的天天沒有去觀察或要求\n\n12\n00:03:57,574 --> 00:04:12,390\n好這個算回答得很清楚那我們就針對這個捐助這件事情我們來做一下討論這個主委應該可以看到螢幕上面寫得非常清楚這個我們這個歷年來都是以捐助的方式來處理那近年來你可以看到預算有逐步增加\n\n13\n00:04:13,451 --> 00:04:32,851\n這對客家文化保存推動客家語言來講當然是件好事但是第一個是執行率好像有一定的落差這一部分要請客委會加強檢討那第二部分就是我剛剛講你既然已經在這個捐助的過程中你一直以來都等於是出資的單位那剛剛你的回答我現在算可以接受\n\n14\n00:04:33,671 --> 00:04:59,565\n官方如果沒有代表然後要尊重公共電視的主體性這個本席可以接受但是我要提一下這個根據我們這個預算中心的一些資料你可以看到我們的這個叫做自播節目我們的比例好像自製的比例好像不夠高因為我們政府每天花了很多的錢我們是希望說相對來講可以鼓勵創新然後產出很多跟客家相關的自製性的節目但是我們在客家電視台裡面自製的比例好像沒有\n\n15\n00:05:00,185 --> 00:05:01,866\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案\n\n16\n00:05:18,459 --> 00:05:20,240\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n17\n00:05:40,655 --> 00:05:48,418\n二、民意補助品所分配的金費較大：無法製造出有納稅的節目：所以過去才有一個金融獎：加上有納豆獎品、獎項：代替了10種職員做出新的節目：希望用IP經營的空間創起更好的節目：將來透過其他平台出席\n\n18\n00:06:09,511 --> 00:06:20,766\n因為時間有限這個就給你看一下參考比例上來講以公視的主評來講他大概都有4成左右的製播率客家台大概是22%原民台大概是23%到24%照理來講這個\n\n19\n00:06:24,090 --> 00:06:25,911\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n20\n00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:45,681\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n21\n00:07:14,201 --> 00:07:18,086\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案。\n\n22\n00:07:32,867 --> 00:07:56,899\n目前在112年的統計就有達到70%以上跟委員報告了。這落差為什麼會這麼大?你們做了什麼政策的調整?之前的計算時數的部分新聞節目的部分沒有記錄。所以新聞記錄之後知識率就提高很多是不是?好沒關係這我們就一樣來做逐年的檢討我們是希望創新的比例因為新聞相對來講製作門檻是比較低的\n\n23\n00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,581\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n\n24\n00:08:21,277 --> 00:08:50,476\n我們的這個自播自製率沒有那麼高是因為我要把量能維持在做新創的節目但新創的比例其實也沒有很高這兩件事情我們都希望隨著你預算的投入可以逐年來上升這至少這個方向來講我想主委應該不會反對這樣努力的方向吧沒有反對但是要讓委員報告像今年公衆天使從去年那天開始經常合作推出兩個客家天使團由在很多黑潮天空下的\n\n25\n00:08:53,486 --> 00:09:01,529\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n\n26\n00:09:15,373 --> 00:09:17,274\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n27\n00:09:43,442 --> 00:10:06,663\n再來最後一個小問題就是我們現在都講我們現在都講說ESG是很重要的一個概念對不對那這個112年的全國客家日你們有頒發多元文化企業的社會責任就客語友善企業獎用鼓勵的方式這一點是不錯的那這個遠東百貨全家便利商店跟中華郵政因為有多做客語服務所以就鼓勵他這是好事那當然這個東西現在\n\n28\n00:10:08,584 --> 00:10:26,762\n也在跟金管會跟文化部跟原委會大概在開會延長促進金融管理委員會修正這個企業社會責任的實務守則希望把多元語言就是講我們現在要推廣多元語言要納入社會公益的ESG的範圍這件事情現在有進度嗎\n\n29\n00:10:27,972 --> 00:10:29,533\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n30\n00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:45,501\n從你的角度困難不大\n\n31\n00:11:13,098 --> 00:11:14,240\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議．\n\n32\n00:11:32,799 --> 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主委早安今天有幾件事情要跟您做一下政策的討論第一個我先從這個業務報告開始因為大家都知道我們現在這個由公共電視文化事業基金會來做這個客家電視台\n那我們的客家公共傳播基金會來做講客廣播電台嘛那我們現在在講說要推廣客家文化的時候其實來講這個媒體的渠道還是有它的影響力還是蠻重要的所以我想要問一下第一個問題就是說我們有看到這個公共傳播基金會的業務報告\n當然就是講客廣播電臺的推動狀況但是我們沒有看到客家電視臺相關的推動狀況連你的業務報告裡面好像也沒有寫到多少東西這個原因是什麼?你要不要說明一下?老委員報告,客家電視臺過去的客家委員會額部計劃中總結表案\n二、經濟公共推出公眾天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n好所以基本上這個業務還是交給公共電視台負責嘛那你們講說基於公共性就不多做干涉這我越理解但我要問一下我們是改捐助啦捐助我知道等一下我們會討論這個問題因為你講這個公共電視文化基金會客家電視台也有一個資義委員會嘛也就是說雖然它有一定的公共性但相對來講我們從推動客家文化的角度來講你還是要有一定的角色嘛\n我們當然不是講說去干涉它的製作嘛對不對但是要有一定的角色那我就問你們現在的質疑委員會的委員有沒有有沒有官方代表現在是完全沒有是不是那這個覺得這樣子的狀況會不會影響國家推動客家文化的保存跟相關傳播一定的渠道包含政策的宣導會不會影響\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n其餘的官方當然主管客家事務對所有客家事務都關心但人外方面竟然遵從公共傳播媒體的立場除非有出現衝突的社運事件請勿表達意見檢討對其的觀察不過像說有衝突的政策本來是在地的只不過是指揮在地的天天沒有去觀察或要求\n好 這個算回答得很清楚那我們就針對這個捐助這件事情我們來做一下討論這個主委應該可以看到螢幕上面寫得非常清楚這個我們這個歷年來都是以捐助的方式來處理那近年來你可以看到預算有逐步增加\n這對客家文化保存推動客家語言來講當然是件好事但是第一個是執行率好像有一定的落差這一部分要請客委會加強檢討那第二部分就是我剛剛講你既然已經在這個捐助的過程中你一直以來都等於是出資的單位那剛剛你的回答我現在算可以接受\n官方如果沒有代表然後要尊重公共電視的主體性這個本席可以接受但是我要提一下這個根據我們這個預算中心的一些資料你可以看到我們的這個叫做自播節目我們的比例好像自製的比例好像不夠高因為我們政府每天花了很多的錢我們是希望說相對來講可以鼓勵創新然後產出很多跟客家相關的自製性的節目但是我們在客家電視台裡面自製的比例好像沒有\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n二、民意補助品所分配的金費較大：無法製造出有納稅的節目：所以過去才有一個金融獎：加上有納豆獎品、獎項：代替了10種職員做出新的節目：希望用IP經營的空間創起更好的節目：將來透過其他平台出席\n因為時間有限這個就給你看一下參考比例上來講以公視的主評來講他大概都有4成左右的製播率客家台大概是22%原民台大概是23%到24%照理來講這個\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案。\n目前在112年的統計就有達到70%以上跟委員報告了。這落差為什麼會這麼大?你們做了什麼政策的調整?之前的計算時數的部分新聞節目的部分沒有記錄。所以新聞記錄之後知識率就提高很多是不是?好沒關係這我們就一樣來做逐年的檢討我們是希望創新的比例因為新聞相對來講製作門檻是比較低的\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n我們的這個自播自製率沒有那麼高是因為我要把量能維持在做新創的節目但新創的比例其實也沒有很高這兩件事情我們都希望隨著你預算的投入可以逐年來上升這至少這個方向來講我想主委應該不會反對這樣努力的方向吧沒有反對但是要讓委員報告像今年公衆天使從去年那天開始經常合作推出兩個客家天使團由在很多黑潮天空下的\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n再來最後一個小問題就是我們現在都講我們現在都講說ESG是很重要的一個概念對不對那這個112年的全國客家日你們有頒發多元文化企業的社會責任就客語友善企業獎用鼓勵的方式這一點是不錯的那這個遠東百貨全家便利商店跟中華郵政因為有多做客語服務所以就鼓勵他這是好事那當然這個東西現在\n也在跟金管會跟文化部跟原委會大概在開會延長促進金融管理委員會修正這個企業社會責任的實務守則希望把多元語言就是講我們現在要推廣多元語言要納入社會公益的ESG的範圍這件事情現在有進度嗎\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n從你的角度困難不大\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議．\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.089 --> 00:20.901\n第二位請我們牛新廷委員知情好謝謝主席這個客委會主委有請客委會主委好謝謝主委不用緊張今天客委會\n\n00:22.591 --> 00:37.814\n好主委早安今天有幾件事情要跟您做一下政策的討論第一個我先從這個業務報告開始因為大家都知道我們現在這個由公共電視文化事業基金會來做這個客家電視台\n\n00:38.675 --> 00:55.688\n那我們的客家公共傳播基金會來做講客廣播電台嘛那我們現在在講說要推廣客家文化的時候其實來講這個媒體的渠道還是有它的影響力還是蠻重要的所以我想要問一下第一個問題就是說我們有看到這個公共傳播基金會的業務報告\n\n00:57.490 --> 01:09.844\n當然就是講客廣播電臺的推動狀況但是我們沒有看到客家電視臺相關的推動狀況連你的業務報告裡面好像也沒有寫到多少東西這個原因是什麼?你要不要說明一下?老委員報告,客家電視臺過去的客家委員會額部計劃中總結表案\n\n01:18.033 --> 01:25.059\n二、經濟公共推出公眾天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．公共天使臺盤利．\n\n01:42.754 --> 01:48.420\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案\n\n02:05.578 --> 02:09.763\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n02:26.584 --> 02:51.003\n好所以基本上這個業務還是交給公共電視台負責嘛那你們講說基於公共性就不多做干涉這我越理解但我要問一下我們是改捐助啦捐助我知道等一下我們會討論這個問題因為你講這個公共電視文化基金會客家電視台也有一個資義委員會嘛也就是說雖然它有一定的公共性但相對來講我們從推動客家文化的角度來講你還是要有一定的角色嘛\n\n02:51.263 --> 03:10.382\n我們當然不是講說去干涉它的製作嘛對不對但是要有一定的角色那我就問你們現在的質疑委員會的委員有沒有有沒有官方代表現在是完全沒有是不是那這個覺得這樣子的狀況會不會影響國家推動客家文化的保存跟相關傳播一定的渠道包含政策的宣導會不會影響\n\n03:11.101 --> 03:13.022\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n03:28.313 --> 03:46.407\n其餘的官方當然主管客家事務對所有客家事務都關心但人外方面竟然遵從公共傳播媒體的立場除非有出現衝突的社運事件請勿表達意見檢討對其的觀察不過像說有衝突的政策本來是在地的只不過是指揮在地的天天沒有去觀察或要求\n\n03:57.574 --> 04:12.390\n好這個算回答得很清楚那我們就針對這個捐助這件事情我們來做一下討論這個主委應該可以看到螢幕上面寫得非常清楚這個我們這個歷年來都是以捐助的方式來處理那近年來你可以看到預算有逐步增加\n\n04:13.451 --> 04:32.851\n這對客家文化保存推動客家語言來講當然是件好事但是第一個是執行率好像有一定的落差這一部分要請客委會加強檢討那第二部分就是我剛剛講你既然已經在這個捐助的過程中你一直以來都等於是出資的單位那剛剛你的回答我現在算可以接受\n\n04:33.671 --> 04:59.565\n官方如果沒有代表然後要尊重公共電視的主體性這個本席可以接受但是我要提一下這個根據我們這個預算中心的一些資料你可以看到我們的這個叫做自播節目我們的比例好像自製的比例好像不夠高因為我們政府每天花了很多的錢我們是希望說相對來講可以鼓勵創新然後產出很多跟客家相關的自製性的節目但是我們在客家電視台裡面自製的比例好像沒有\n\n05:00.185 --> 05:01.866\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案\n\n05:18.459 --> 05:20.240\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n05:40.655 --> 05:48.418\n二、民意補助品所分配的金費較大：無法製造出有納稅的節目：所以過去才有一個金融獎：加上有納豆獎品、獎項：代替了10種職員做出新的節目：希望用IP經營的空間創起更好的節目：將來透過其他平台出席\n\n06:09.511 --> 06:20.766\n因為時間有限這個就給你看一下參考比例上來講以公視的主評來講他大概都有4成左右的製播率客家台大概是22%原民台大概是23%到24%照理來講這個\n\n06:24.090 --> 06:25.911\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n06:43.700 --> 06:45.681\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n07:14.201 --> 07:18.086\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案。\n\n07:32.867 --> 07:56.899\n目前在112年的統計就有達到70%以上跟委員報告了。這落差為什麼會這麼大?你們做了什麼政策的調整?之前的計算時數的部分新聞節目的部分沒有記錄。所以新聞記錄之後知識率就提高很多是不是?好沒關係這我們就一樣來做逐年的檢討我們是希望創新的比例因為新聞相對來講製作門檻是比較低的\n\n07:58.120 --> 07:59.581\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n\n08:21.277 --> 08:50.476\n我們的這個自播自製率沒有那麼高是因為我要把量能維持在做新創的節目但新創的比例其實也沒有很高這兩件事情我們都希望隨著你預算的投入可以逐年來上升這至少這個方向來講我想主委應該不會反對這樣努力的方向吧沒有反對但是要讓委員報告像今年公衆天使從去年那天開始經常合作推出兩個客家天使團由在很多黑潮天空下的\n\n08:53.486 --> 09:01.529\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n\n09:15.373 --> 09:17.274\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n09:43.442 --> 10:06.663\n再來最後一個小問題就是我們現在都講我們現在都講說ESG是很重要的一個概念對不對那這個112年的全國客家日你們有頒發多元文化企業的社會責任就客語友善企業獎用鼓勵的方式這一點是不錯的那這個遠東百貨全家便利商店跟中華郵政因為有多做客語服務所以就鼓勵他這是好事那當然這個東西現在\n\n10:08.584 --> 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