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00:00:44,114\n委員好李專委本席想請教您就我們預算法現行的第84條它有一個但書就是說我們這個為因應情勢緊急需要得先支付其一部請問先支付其一部是可以支付30%、50%還是80%有沒有規定這部分並沒有特別的規定好那再請問先支付其一部有沒有規定它的用途\n\n2\n00:00:45,441 --> 00:00:48,083\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n3\n00:01:02,185 --> 00:01:30,743\n用途就是要用在特別預算編列的內容比如說經濟或是重大災害但是重大災害或是像我們之前這個新冠疫情他可能如果需要用的話他沒有講什麼內容但是他只要是跟疫情有關的都可以就是看這個特別預算編列好是什麼內容對但是他先支付一部但他並沒有講要用在什麼內容\n\n4\n00:01:33,117 --> 00:01:34,818\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n5\n00:01:50,047 --> 00:02:15,865\n目前我們的現行的預算裡面就有針對那個災害的部分有一筆的預算對所以我說要事先編列嗎您認同嗎不能夠等到有災害才開始找錢嗎他事先編列嗎對我們總預算就有編列災準金對好所以這個臺灣呢有颱風有地震我想住在臺灣這個島上的人都了解\n\n6\n00:02:16,525 --> 00:02:22,672\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算案\n\n7\n00:02:33,784 --> 00:02:50,814\n對,那所以呢,一個有為的政府應該要這樣編列,但是如果有災害才開始找錢,可以先編列不編列,可以先完成立法程序不完成立法程序,這個就是無能的政府,愚蠢的政府\n\n8\n00:02:51,494 --> 00:02:58,738\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案\n\n9\n00:03:18,887 --> 00:03:21,088\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議．檢送決議．\n\n10\n00:03:44,938 --> 00:03:52,824\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬及財團法人客家委員會及所屬及財團法人客家委員會及所屬及財團法人客家委員會及所屬及財團法人客家委員會及所屬及財團法人\n\n11\n00:04:13,605 --> 00:04:31,556\n本席在這裡看到我們業務報告第13頁有提到客委會持續透過客家歌曲以及音樂來打破文化的藩籬同時也希望能夠促進客家音樂和語言文化的推廣\n\n12\n00:04:36,076 --> 00:04:51,006\n業務報告13頁提到為了推廣客家歌曲來推廣客家文化安排了客家歌謠的交流觀摩賽總共有555隊以及1897人參與主委請問您推辦的客家音樂會有多少?\n\n13\n00:05:02,686 --> 00:05:16,991\n四百萬出頭對,四百多萬我們有四百多萬的客家人那四百多萬的客家人我們辦一個推廣活動其實只有一萬多人參加我們可以以目前各體方設立的營業辦營業辦全不來的我會說的是,我們在全推廣\n\n14\n00:05:25,232 --> 00:05:27,974\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n15\n00:05:48,644 --> 00:05:52,707\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n16\n00:06:18,149 --> 00:06:22,513\n二、當年凍到新的流行架構：一、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n17\n00:06:32,705 --> 00:06:35,726\n二、財政委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任委員會主任\n\n18\n00:07:00,678 --> 00:07:02,740\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案。\n\n19\n00:07:19,352 --> 00:07:25,875\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議．\n\n20\n00:07:46,365 --> 00:07:46,966\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議．\n\n21\n00:08:02,646 --> 00:08:05,949\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案。\n\n22\n00:08:27,307 --> 00:08:29,148\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案。\n\n23\n00:08:51,860 --> 00:08:53,400\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n\n24\n00:09:12,825 --> 00:09:14,486\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案。\n\n25\n00:09:31,296 --> 00:09:50,455\n該客家文化元素怎麼樣把我們特色的公園、客家文化活動的推廣辦理能夠來就客庄的旅遊如何導入客家文化元素希望客會可以提出書面報告\n\n26\n00:09:52,136 --> 00:09:57,099\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案\n\n27\n00:10:10,406 --> 00:10:34,540\n對應共合會合約興起。所以希望能不能看怎麼樣我們客委會能夠加強精進讓孩子家長對客家文化的認同度還有語言聲望對對對這個部分我們也有提案出來只是今天沒有處理臨時提案也希望在下下個會期開議前我們客會可以提出書面報告\n\n28\n00:10:35,461 --> 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--> 00:44.114\n委員好李專委本席想請教您就我們預算法現行的第84條它有一個但書就是說我們這個為因應情勢緊急需要得先支付其一部請問先支付其一部是可以支付30%、50%還是80%有沒有規定這部分並沒有特別的規定好那再請問先支付其一部有沒有規定它的用途\n\n00:45.441 --> 00:48.083\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n01:02.185 --> 01:30.743\n用途就是要用在特別預算編列的內容比如說經濟或是重大災害但是重大災害或是像我們之前這個新冠疫情他可能如果需要用的話他沒有講什麼內容但是他只要是跟疫情有關的都可以就是看這個特別預算編列好是什麼內容對但是他先支付一部但他並沒有講要用在什麼內容\n\n01:33.117 --> 01:34.818\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n01:50.047 --> 02:15.865\n目前我們的現行的預算裡面就有針對那個災害的部分有一筆的預算對所以我說要事先編列嗎您認同嗎不能夠等到有災害才開始找錢嗎他事先編列嗎對我們總預算就有編列災準金對好所以這個臺灣呢有颱風有地震我想住在臺灣這個島上的人都了解\n\n02:16.525 --> 02:22.672\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算案\n\n02:33.784 --> 02:50.814\n對,那所以呢,一個有為的政府應該要這樣編列,但是如果有災害才開始找錢,可以先編列不編列,可以先完成立法程序不完成立法程序,這個就是無能的政府,愚蠢的政府\n\n02:51.494 --> 02:58.738\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案\n\n03:18.887 --> 03:21.088\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議．檢送決議．\n\n03:44.938 --> 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