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{\"word\": \"．\"}, {\"word\": \"檢\"}, {\"word\": \"送\", \"start\": 614.606, \"end\": 614.626, \"score\": 0.0}, {\"word\": \"決\"}, {\"word\": \"議\"}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:00,749 --> 00:00:19,999\n主委我想請教你從今年2月開始有關觀光署停止組團赴大陸然後也發生了金門撞船的事件以及陸的船艦飛機繞台還有無人機侵入金門\n\n2\n00:00:23,641 --> 00:00:35,581\n各種事端接連不斷的發生所以兩岸的關係也越來越緊張敵意螺旋不斷的上升如果以10分作為評分標準的話請問主委你認為現在兩岸關係的緊張程度是幾分\n\n3\n00:00:40,733 --> 00:00:53,637\n基本上沒有什麼太大的變化假設我們用您剛剛講10分嘛假設我們過去這2016年到現在大概都在5分到6分之間最近可能大概可能是6.1、6.2\n\n4\n00:00:55,818 --> 00:01:21,918\n主要原因是金門的這個賺錢事件其實它就是一個偶發的意外事件而已過去這種事情的處理基本上本來他們就有很多的處理的這個經驗跟模式不過到現在都還沒解決嘛對對對那主要原因當然是因為剛好碰到我們選後那520之前大概委員可以理解對岸大概可能可能會在520之後會比較有提要\n\n5\n00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:51,422\n其實我們應該也看得出來現在的緊張程度就是其實一直在提升所以兩岸的關係越來越緊張是不是更應該要交流要對話尤其是我想中美關係也很緊張所以在2023年6月的時候美國國務卿布林肯訪中2023年7月20日的時候共和黨的季辛吉國務卿也在大陸進行私人的訪問然後會見習近平被當作老朋友般的對待\n\n6\n00:01:52,062 --> 00:01:57,150\n那所以邱主委當時當然外媒認為此舉是在打臉這個民主黨的美國總統拜登所以邱主委會不會擔心前總統馬英九會見習近平等於是在打臉蔡英文總統\n\n7\n00:02:08,471 --> 00:02:09,531\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議．\n\n8\n00:02:25,117 --> 00:02:27,559\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n\n9\n00:02:47,714 --> 00:03:12,293\n所以我想這個部分可能也不要再有意識形態的那種產生希望就是能夠把這個定調就是兩岸的溝通跟交流恐怕不是溝通吧他就是一個文化的交流我想對話相對重要可能是大家不要給他太多的對我也覺得不要有政治藝術不要給他太多的正度的期待因為馬總統他是用私人身份去\n\n10\n00:03:12,773 --> 00:03:14,034\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．\n\n11\n00:03:43,228 --> 00:03:58,476\n主委好請問一下主委就我們客委會為了結合衛福部長照10年的計畫2.0政策有70個客家文化重點發展區域還有21個非客家文化重點發展區域都有設置博工照護站\n\n12\n00:03:59,276 --> 00:04:14,383\n所以到112年8月底已經合訂了12個縣市的博工照護站總共有473個請問博工照護站在這次的0403的大地震中有沒有發揮功效關心我們客家的這個長者\n\n13\n00:04:16,183 --> 00:04:41,277\n因為博工照護站其實就是照護據點那我們這一次地震之後有透過我們所接觸到的社團各種管道都有去問大家有沒有什麼需要協助什麼需要幫忙的目前我們沒有接到這樣的一個要求那另外的博工照護站其實在各縣市是有它的衛福部門直接在做管理\n\n14\n00:04:42,037 --> 00:04:44,939\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案\n\n15\n00:04:59,750 --> 00:05:14,687\n對我想如果災後我們可以利用這個博鳳照顧站去關懷我們的長者一定對我們客委會的傾向也有很好的提升那另外再請教一下主委就是我們在去年的8月11號到10月15號舉辦了2023年的世界客家博覽會\n\n16\n00:05:15,768 --> 00:05:27,331\n那客委會原來預估可以吸引600萬人次其中觀光客大概有20萬人次會創造210的經濟效益那舉辦過後呢陳建仁院長在這個10月19號的院會有說參觀人數已經超過1100萬人次那經濟效益是200億元不過我根據你們剛剛的報告就是你們報告提到的還有桃園市的\n\n17\n00:05:42,395 --> 00:05:43,996\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。\n\n18\n00:05:58,625 --> 00:06:03,369\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案\n\n19\n00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:18,620\n這次中央政府客委會及桃園市政府客家局所舉辦的客博會當初花17億元\n\n20\n00:06:40,348 --> 00:06:43,873\n15億是客家15億15億元分費補出3億然後桃園市政府是2億嘛對不對3億3億3億\n\n21\n00:06:53,075 --> 00:07:08,523\n所以總共是15億元所以可以創造385億元的經濟效益所以我覺得是不是每個一段時間就應該要舉辦一次以活絡經濟還有宣表客家文化我們在內部有客家委員會對於一百幾十個客家委員會的政體有做檢討要對於將來判的可能性都有偵測的評估目前已經非常好在\n\n22\n00:07:18,429 --> 00:07:24,276\n國家本人的意見在整理當中。整理到一定程度會抽出不同的項目。會作為經濟部的期待及詳細資料。太總統的肯定時間會拍攝。\n\n23\n00:07:33,368 --> 00:07:36,109\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算決議．檢送決議\n\n24\n00:07:55,154 --> 00:07:55,874\n請問這一場演唱會的預算是多少?\n\n25\n00:08:22,504 --> 00:08:25,346\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案\n\n26\n00:08:46,903 --> 00:08:49,384\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案\n\n27\n00:09:05,233 --> 00:09:08,114\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n\n28\n00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,681\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。二、處理113年度中央政府總預算凍結案計6案。\n\n29\n00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,664\n二、處理113年度中央政府總預算案有關客家委員會及所屬預算凍結案計6案\n\n30\n00:10:12,343 --> 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