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sovere�羅廷瑋等21人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案案案案案案﹚立法院第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第1會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第2會\n這一個部分的話我們會支持擴建但是他所使用的預算並不是說報公建計畫我的印象中不是報行政院爭取公建計畫的預算而是由部桃這邊的作業基金去支援的我的印象中是那我請問一下現在到底進行到哪裡所以這\n因為今天那個衣服會沒有來,所以實際上的進度我是不是請會後再提供資料給...好,因為我們對這個,其實這也不是說2023年我們衛福部才說支持新建,因為我想請問一下,因為這個早在我們\n蔡英文總統在第一任的時候她就有說這個案子已經通過可是我怎麼不知道說通過的結果現在怎麼感覺部長好像針對這個事情並不是很了解\n大方向我知道說這個案子是通過的。那這裡面也包括說那個醫療大樓跟這個住宿市長照機構。那這個部分的話住宿市長照機構的工程費用這些的審查應該是已經完成了。已經完成了。\n那他的期程是就是說到116年2月應該是會完工這是諸日市場的機構那至於說那個新吳分院的本身的這個擴建這個部分的話應該是還在辦理當中因為這裡面好像有出現一些狀況\n所以現在到底卡到什麼問題因為據我們了解在2019年就是我們小英總統在第一任的時候那當然因為那個時候是距離第二次連任選舉剩39天的時候他也到那邊去也直接跟我們所有的鄉親說這個案子已經通過了那我不知道說這個通過的定義在哪裡\n我這邊的資料是這樣子的。112年就去年7月的時候有召開了這個計畫的審查的會議。中間的話會有一些東西需要再做補件這個內容。但是後來\n就是那個原來委託規劃設計的建築師就突然過世。所以等於那個合約就要解除,然後再重新再尋找新的這個規劃設計的人員。所以可能是卡在這個地方,所以變成是有delay。\n那所以現在進度到底在哪裡?所以我說因為現在進度如何的話我並沒有說非常清楚我會後的話我提供那個訓練資料給委員因為這部分我們會提出來真的也希望我覺得我們\n蔡英文總統也有講這個政策是需要延續的他這個在第一任的時候也信誓旦旦說通過所以我們已經等了4年多的時間從2019年我們蔡總統去新屋的時候就正式說這個擴建案是已經通過了\n然後後來我們的立委在立法院質詢我們當時候的次長石崇良次長也說這個自己的意願責無旁貸那後來我們鄭運鵬市長候選人也當場也允諾一定會全力來爭取這個新屋分院那也在去年我們賴清德副總統他也說\n將擴建第二醫療大樓馬上即將要擴建可是很快喔你看從2019年到現在4年多再從去年說即將要擴建然後到現在感覺好像也看不到計畫書看不到這個預算欸這回去會再請他們要加緊啦\n那我是不是請我們部長齁也請部長來重視這個問題那我請問一下那這個資料大概什麼時候我們看得到目前進度的資料應該明天之前可以送到委員的辦公室那至於說未來的這一個要怎麼樣去推動的話那我會再加緊來跟我希望部長齁\n我們也不要說明天啦我希望一個禮拜內可不可以把我們這個部桃醫院新屋分院第二擴建醫療大樓的所有的相關時程計畫還有經費可不可以直接把這個資料給我們好\n邱議瑩等21人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案案件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事\n醫療法草案案件事件事件事件事件事件事件\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.143 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03:03.227\n這一個部分的話我們會支持擴建但是他所使用的預算並不是說報公建計畫我的印象中不是報行政院爭取公建計畫的預算而是由部桃這邊的作業基金去支援的我的印象中是那我請問一下現在到底進行到哪裡所以這\n\n03:08.323 --> 03:29.605\n因為今天那個衣服會沒有來,所以實際上的進度我是不是請會後再提供資料給...好,因為我們對這個,其實這也不是說2023年我們衛福部才說支持新建,因為我想請問一下,因為這個早在我們\n\n03:30.746 --> 03:43.818\n蔡英文總統在第一任的時候她就有說這個案子已經通過可是我怎麼不知道說通過的結果現在怎麼感覺部長好像針對這個事情並不是很了解\n\n03:46.277 --> 04:03.904\n大方向我知道說這個案子是通過的。那這裡面也包括說那個醫療大樓跟這個住宿市長照機構。那這個部分的話住宿市長照機構的工程費用這些的審查應該是已經完成了。已經完成了。\n\n04:04.520 --> 04:22.693\n那他的期程是就是說到116年2月應該是會完工這是諸日市場的機構那至於說那個新吳分院的本身的這個擴建這個部分的話應該是還在辦理當中因為這裡面好像有出現一些狀況\n\n04:34.293 --> 04:57.811\n所以現在到底卡到什麼問題因為據我們了解在2019年就是我們小英總統在第一任的時候那當然因為那個時候是距離第二次連任選舉剩39天的時候他也到那邊去也直接跟我們所有的鄉親說這個案子已經通過了那我不知道說這個通過的定義在哪裡\n\n04:59.652 --> 05:15.465\n我這邊的資料是這樣子的。112年就去年7月的時候有召開了這個計畫的審查的會議。中間的話會有一些東西需要再做補件這個內容。但是後來\n\n05:17.185 --> 05:36.979\n就是那個原來委託規劃設計的建築師就突然過世。所以等於那個合約就要解除,然後再重新再尋找新的這個規劃設計的人員。所以可能是卡在這個地方,所以變成是有delay。\n\n05:38.868 --> 05:55.911\n那所以現在進度到底在哪裡?所以我說因為現在進度如何的話我並沒有說非常清楚我會後的話我提供那個訓練資料給委員因為這部分我們會提出來真的也希望我覺得我們\n\n05:57.492 --> 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