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00:01:34,600\n盈業稅仍然沒有免徵的這樣一個情形。那麼盈業稅它其實是一般性的消費稅,所以我們目前來免徵的大部分都屬於有特定政策目的的,比如說農業的或國防的或者是這個教育社福的,或者是這個\n\n6\n00:01:36,002 --> 00:01:52,556\n教育文化這個部分那沒有對個別的產品對他的營業稅來給予免納那我們認為呢其實有其他更好的方式讓我們的婦女朋友能能夠得到這方面的一個補助比如說以免費贈送的或者是兌換券的方式\n\n7\n00:01:52,816 --> 00:01:55,859\n比從這個營業稅裡面來去做免徵更有實質的效益因為這個營業稅是涵蓋在它的售價裡面如果說我們免納了可是這個減徵的這個利益並沒有反映在這個售價上那消費者他其實根本就沒有\n\n8\n00:02:09,774 --> 00:02:22,004\n獲得這個免納營業稅的一個好處那相反的是等於以政府的稅收來補貼生產或者是銷售的廠商或者營業人那所以我們認為說以其他的方式可能對婦女朋友來說能夠獲得的幫助是可以更大的而相對的比較這個以免納營業稅其實他未必能夠獲得實質的一個利益我想這個是我們主要的一個說法那你剛剛說的其他的方式說用贈送的方式那你有開始在準備嗎?\n\n9\n00:02:38,877 --> 00:02:59,591\n我想這個部分因為是屬於社會福利的部分我覺得也可以多重的一個多元的一個方式來減輕這個婦女朋友的一個負擔你們這一份報告書裡面有提到就是說考量到這些沒有把減稅的利益全數反映在這些商品的售價所以剛剛有提到說你擔心的部分\n\n10\n00:03:00,472 --> 00:03:23,908\n那所以他沒有實質的收益,而且可能會讓國庫每年大概3.8億的稅收的這個損失。啊所以其實你這樣就怕就不敢做你知道,我是說是不是說現在你也沒有拒絕,那也沒有說就反對,那你想要用其他的方式,那其他方式計畫是不是已經開始在設計了,那另外就是說會不會在520之後,這個就會來通過,會來\n\n11\n00:03:29,031 --> 00:03:29,691\n賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、\n\n12\n00:03:48,722 --> 00:04:03,611\n支持於否我認為這個修法是進步的因為在不少國家都意識到這個生理期不平等的現象所以也取消了生理用品的一個營業稅我認為說我們國家跟進這也是對於女權的重視\n\n13\n00:04:04,991 --> 00:04:32,086\n對。我想委員提案都是對於女權的一個重視。對對對。所以部長也支持啦。好。那我再接著就是說所得稅法第五條規定說免稅額每日消費者物價指數這個較上次調漲年度之指數上漲累計達到3%按上漲程度來調整這個3%當時立法的時空這個環境背景是什麼?部長可不可以說明一下?\n\n14\n00:04:34,671 --> 00:04:58,211\n委員您是提到免稅額在CPI上的調整?對對對對對那這個部分超過3%的部分我們就會做調整而且按照實質的CPI的調整的幅度來做免稅額的調整而且標準扣除額以及身心障礙特別扣除額還有薪資所得特別扣除額都會隨著CPI來做調整是的對啊那我這邊齁兩次我們兩次的調整\n\n15\n00:05:01,761 --> 00:05:20,626\n上上次調整是106年度然後111年度適用之平均消費者物價指數與106年度適用之指數相較上漲了4.17%那再來就是上一次是在111年度那113年度適用之平均消費者物價指數與111年度的指數相較上漲了5.5%已經達到這個調整的標準所以按照\n\n16\n00:05:29,989 --> 00:05:48,841\n這個上漲程度調整我要表達是說最近這兩次的調整一次是4.17然後相距五年一次是相距兩年然後呢是5.5%那兩次都有超過所得稅法規定的3%那有沒有可能說針對這個3%的規定來進行調整不要說就是3%是過去\n\n17\n00:05:56,545 --> 00:06:11,256\n那能夠在未來每年的免稅額的合定能夠及時的跟上現在的物價指數尤其現在是萬物這個物價飛漲的年代反應更及時讓人民更有感可不可以\n\n18\n00:06:12,543 --> 00:06:25,739\n委員報告當您的意思希望每年條但是每年條可能在作業上我們可能要考慮但是基本生活費是每年條的基本生活費是每年按照物價指數在調整如果用什麼用那個中位數\n\n19\n00:06:27,461 --> 00:06:44,456\n中位數所得60%再算。所以基本生活費是每年再調。如果他的免稅額跟扣除額加起來,他能扣的數字低於基本生活費的話,事實上這個差額是還可以再補的。所以基本生活費是每年都會再調整。是用所,對不對,署長講的60%來計算的,對。\n\n20\n00:06:48,831 --> 00:07:14,443\n好,那我想這個部分還要再加油啦,因為其實竹林調整這是符合現在的需求,不要因為說會增加一些這個執行上的困難而就把它烘焙掉,那另外再提到我們現在地震的議題,因為4月3號台灣發生規模7.2的地震,那最嚴重的是在花蓮,那其實像我們今天早上上台北的時候,\n\n21\n00:07:15,143 --> 00:07:15,383\n監督監督監督\n\n22\n00:07:38,386 --> 00:08:02,301\n損失金額15萬以下可憑檢察機關或村里長的證明以書面的審核不需要到現場勘查這部分但是你要知道過去15萬可以做比較多的事情那現在的15萬搞不好一面牆都沒辦法做啦而且我有去了解就是說這15萬的審查這個免審查的這項規定是在哪一年制定的部長你知道嗎\n\n23\n00:08:03,595 --> 00:08:05,478\n你還記得嗎?87年我告訴你民國87年已經26年沒有動過了那這26年我們的現在的整個\n\n24\n00:08:16,049 --> 00:08:17,170\n副副副副副副\n\n25\n00:08:42,921 --> 00:09:07,387\n是謝謝委員我想這個部分對花蓮地區申報這個有關災害損失的部分已經從一個月調整為三個月把時間拉長那第二個對於這個部分呢災損的部分我們是重寬、重塑、重優而且要重減的方式那我們在北區國稅局在花蓮地區呢他採取了非常多元的方式包含跟村里長或村里幹事等等一起以及我們自己的同仁下去輔導受災戶做相關的一些\n\n26\n00:09:11,008 --> 00:09:18,869\n賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21\n\n27\n00:09:38,852 --> 00:10:02,721\n不單單是花蓮,重災區在花蓮,其他縣市也發生了很多的這些工廠的危害、自宅的破損這些牆壁的破損這些都應該是在受理的範圍之內,對不對?那個金額的提高我相信這個是要苦民所苦,好不好?我想就是說還要再請教部長\n\n28\n00:10:04,427 --> 00:10:29,928\n目前正在訪中的這個美國財政部長葉倫他在上週五有提到說美國財政部一直跟日本、英國還有歐洲國家進行類似的金融災害模擬但是美國跟中國大陸到目前為止都沒有進行過這樣的演練沒有進行過這樣的演練但是這一次大型銀行倒閉的演習是華盛頓跟北京改善對話經濟對話的一個具體例子那請教部長\n\n29\n00:10:30,689 --> 00:10:57,982\n那這件事你掌握的有沒有更具體的可不可以告訴我們?跟委員報告因為我手邊沒有這個相關的資料而且金融災害可能涉及到金管會的部分對那不管是國際貨幣基金組織反洗錢或者是反恐怖主義融資這一些具體的意見的交換你認為美國會不會分享這些金融演習後的成果讓我們來參考?\n\n30\n00:10:59,590 --> 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費是每年條的基本生活費是每年按照物價指數在調整如果用什麼用那個中位數\n中位數所得60%再算。所以基本生活費是每年再調。如果他的免稅額跟扣除額加起來,他能扣的數字低於基本生活費的話,事實上這個差額是還可以再補的。所以基本生活費是每年都會再調整。是用所,對不對,署長講的60%來計算的,對。\n好,那我想這個部分還要再加油啦,因為其實竹林調整這是符合現在的需求,不要因為說會增加一些這個執行上的困難而就把它烘焙掉,那另外再提到我們現在地震的議題,因為4月3號台灣發生規模7.2的地震,那最嚴重的是在花蓮,那其實像我們今天早上上台北的時候,\n監督監督監督\n損失金額15萬以下可憑檢察機關或村里長的證明以書面的審核不需要到現場勘查這部分但是你要知道過去15萬可以做比較多的事情那現在的15萬搞不好一面牆都沒辦法做啦而且我有去了解就是說這15萬的審查這個免審查的這項規定是在哪一年制定的部長你知道嗎\n你還記得嗎?87年我告訴你民國87年已經26年沒有動過了那這26年我們的現在的整個\n副副副副副副\n是謝謝委員我想這個部分對花蓮地區申報這個有關災害損失的部分已經從一個月調整為三個月把時間拉長那第二個對於這個部分呢災損的部分我們是重寬、重塑、重優而且要重減的方式那我們在北區國稅局在花蓮地區呢他採取了非常多元的方式包含跟村里長或村里幹事等等一起以及我們自己的同仁下去輔導受災戶做相關的一些\n賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21\n不單單是花蓮,重災區在花蓮,其他縣市也發生了很多的這些工廠的危害、自宅的破損這些牆壁的破損這些都應該是在受理的範圍之內,對不對?那個金額的提高我相信這個是要苦民所苦,好不好?我想就是說還要再請教部長\n目前正在訪中的這個美國財政部長葉倫他在上週五有提到說美國財政部一直跟日本、英國還有歐洲國家進行類似的金融災害模擬但是美國跟中國大陸到目前為止都沒有進行過這樣的演練沒有進行過這樣的演練但是這一次大型銀行倒閉的演習是華盛頓跟北京改善對話經濟對話的一個具體例子那請教部長\n那這件事你掌握的有沒有更具體的可不可以告訴我們?跟委員報告因為我手邊沒有這個相關的資料而且金融災害可能涉及到金管會的部分對那不管是國際貨幣基金組織反洗錢或者是反恐怖主義融資這一些具體的意見的交換你認為美國會不會分享這些金融演習後的成果讓我們來參考?\n這個部分我不是很清楚,對。好,謝謝,謝謝。是,謝謝委員是。好,謝謝。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.285 --> 00:04.970\n呃主席呃主席我想請財政部莊部長莊部長委員好\n\n00:12.305 --> 00:34.426\n部長好部長今天審查的加值型非加值型營業稅法那行政院主要是修訂一些名詞那增加電子發票的這些名稱名詞的修訂本期沒有什麼意見那我相信立法院也會同意但是跨黨派的委員們提案修法加值型非加值型營業稅法第8條\n\n00:35.948 --> 00:57.083\n針對女性生理期不只要接受生理期帶來的不適那也比男性多增加一筆購買生理期費用這些物品的費用所以請教部長說財政部目前的評估如何會不會支持就是說特別針對女性生理期的用品來做一個免稅的一個處置\n\n00:59.882 --> 01:17.172\n委員報告謝謝委員對於女性的一個一個關心然後對女性這個生理期之間的不是來做一個關懷我想這個部分剛剛我們也提到了因為目前來說在國際的一個案例裡面我們也看到了大部分的國家對於女性生理用品的\n\n01:17.879 --> 01:34.600\n盈業稅仍然沒有免徵的這樣一個情形。那麼盈業稅它其實是一般性的消費稅,所以我們目前來免徵的大部分都屬於有特定政策目的的,比如說農業的或國防的或者是這個教育社福的,或者是這個\n\n01:36.002 --> 01:52.556\n教育文化這個部分那沒有對個別的產品對他的營業稅來給予免納那我們認為呢其實有其他更好的方式讓我們的婦女朋友能能夠得到這方面的一個補助比如說以免費贈送的或者是兌換券的方式\n\n01:52.816 --> 01:55.859\n比從這個營業稅裡面來去做免徵更有實質的效益因為這個營業稅是涵蓋在它的售價裡面如果說我們免納了可是這個減徵的這個利益並沒有反映在這個售價上那消費者他其實根本就沒有\n\n02:09.774 --> 02:22.004\n獲得這個免納營業稅的一個好處那相反的是等於以政府的稅收來補貼生產或者是銷售的廠商或者營業人那所以我們認為說以其他的方式可能對婦女朋友來說能夠獲得的幫助是可以更大的而相對的比較這個以免納營業稅其實他未必能夠獲得實質的一個利益我想這個是我們主要的一個說法那你剛剛說的其他的方式說用贈送的方式那你有開始在準備嗎?\n\n02:38.877 --> 02:59.591\n我想這個部分因為是屬於社會福利的部分我覺得也可以多重的一個多元的一個方式來減輕這個婦女朋友的一個負擔你們這一份報告書裡面有提到就是說考量到這些沒有把減稅的利益全數反映在這些商品的售價所以剛剛有提到說你擔心的部分\n\n03:00.472 --> 03:23.908\n那所以他沒有實質的收益,而且可能會讓國庫每年大概3.8億的稅收的這個損失。啊所以其實你這樣就怕就不敢做你知道,我是說是不是說現在你也沒有拒絕,那也沒有說就反對,那你想要用其他的方式,那其他方式計畫是不是已經開始在設計了,那另外就是說會不會在520之後,這個就會來通過,會來\n\n03:29.031 --> 03:29.691\n賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、賴氏、\n\n03:48.722 --> 04:03.611\n支持於否我認為這個修法是進步的因為在不少國家都意識到這個生理期不平等的現象所以也取消了生理用品的一個營業稅我認為說我們國家跟進這也是對於女權的重視\n\n04:04.991 --> 04:32.086\n對。我想委員提案都是對於女權的一個重視。對對對。所以部長也支持啦。好。那我再接著就是說所得稅法第五條規定說免稅額每日消費者物價指數這個較上次調漲年度之指數上漲累計達到3%按上漲程度來調整這個3%當時立法的時空這個環境背景是什麼?部長可不可以說明一下?\n\n04:34.671 --> 04:58.211\n委員您是提到免稅額在CPI上的調整?對對對對對那這個部分超過3%的部分我們就會做調整而且按照實質的CPI的調整的幅度來做免稅額的調整而且標準扣除額以及身心障礙特別扣除額還有薪資所得特別扣除額都會隨著CPI來做調整是的對啊那我這邊齁兩次我們兩次的調整\n\n05:01.761 --> 05:20.626\n上上次調整是106年度然後111年度適用之平均消費者物價指數與106年度適用之指數相較上漲了4.17%那再來就是上一次是在111年度那113年度適用之平均消費者物價指數與111年度的指數相較上漲了5.5%已經達到這個調整的標準所以按照\n\n05:29.989 --> 05:48.841\n這個上漲程度調整我要表達是說最近這兩次的調整一次是4.17然後相距五年一次是相距兩年然後呢是5.5%那兩次都有超過所得稅法規定的3%那有沒有可能說針對這個3%的規定來進行調整不要說就是3%是過去\n\n05:56.545 --> 06:11.256\n那能夠在未來每年的免稅額的合定能夠及時的跟上現在的物價指數尤其現在是萬物這個物價飛漲的年代反應更及時讓人民更有感可不可以\n\n06:12.543 --> 06:25.739\n委員報告當您的意思希望每年條但是每年條可能在作業上我們可能要考慮但是基本生活費是每年條的基本生活費是每年按照物價指數在調整如果用什麼用那個中位數\n\n06:27.461 --> 06:44.456\n中位數所得60%再算。所以基本生活費是每年再調。如果他的免稅額跟扣除額加起來,他能扣的數字低於基本生活費的話,事實上這個差額是還可以再補的。所以基本生活費是每年都會再調整。是用所,對不對,署長講的60%來計算的,對。\n\n06:48.831 --> 07:14.443\n好,那我想這個部分還要再加油啦,因為其實竹林調整這是符合現在的需求,不要因為說會增加一些這個執行上的困難而就把它烘焙掉,那另外再提到我們現在地震的議題,因為4月3號台灣發生規模7.2的地震,那最嚴重的是在花蓮,那其實像我們今天早上上台北的時候,\n\n07:15.143 --> 07:15.383\n監督監督監督\n\n07:38.386 --> 08:02.301\n損失金額15萬以下可憑檢察機關或村里長的證明以書面的審核不需要到現場勘查這部分但是你要知道過去15萬可以做比較多的事情那現在的15萬搞不好一面牆都沒辦法做啦而且我有去了解就是說這15萬的審查這個免審查的這項規定是在哪一年制定的部長你知道嗎\n\n08:03.595 --> 08:05.478\n你還記得嗎?87年我告訴你民國87年已經26年沒有動過了那這26年我們的現在的整個\n\n08:16.049 --> 08:17.170\n副副副副副副\n\n08:42.921 --> 09:07.387\n是謝謝委員我想這個部分對花蓮地區申報這個有關災害損失的部分已經從一個月調整為三個月把時間拉長那第二個對於這個部分呢災損的部分我們是重寬、重塑、重優而且要重減的方式那我們在北區國稅局在花蓮地區呢他採取了非常多元的方式包含跟村里長或村里幹事等等一起以及我們自己的同仁下去輔導受災戶做相關的一些\n\n09:11.008 --> 09:18.869\n賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21人、委員賴麗琳等21\n\n09:38.852 --> 10:02.721\n不單單是花蓮,重災區在花蓮,其他縣市也發生了很多的這些工廠的危害、自宅的破損這些牆壁的破損這些都應該是在受理的範圍之內,對不對?那個金額的提高我相信這個是要苦民所苦,好不好?我想就是說還要再請教部長\n\n10:04.427 --> 10:29.928\n目前正在訪中的這個美國財政部長葉倫他在上週五有提到說美國財政部一直跟日本、英國還有歐洲國家進行類似的金融災害模擬但是美國跟中國大陸到目前為止都沒有進行過這樣的演練沒有進行過這樣的演練但是這一次大型銀行倒閉的演習是華盛頓跟北京改善對話經濟對話的一個具體例子那請教部長\n\n10:30.689 --> 10:57.982\n那這件事你掌握的有沒有更具體的可不可以告訴我們?跟委員報告因為我手邊沒有這個相關的資料而且金融災害可能涉及到金管會的部分對那不管是國際貨幣基金組織反洗錢或者是反恐怖主義融資這一些具體的意見的交換你認為美國會不會分享這些金融演習後的成果讓我們來參考?\n\n10:59.590 --> 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