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00:01:59,276\n但是後續的改革似乎大家都覺得糟蹭了就是不符這個期待那全教總這邊也說教改小班小校的這個目標並沒有達成而廣設高中大學也沒有真正的減輕升學的壓力甚至更甚的是弱化了技職教育那次長您覺得說好如果我們要來如何加速推動這個小班小校的這個政策目標還有強化技職教育跟那個產業來接軌您的看法呢\n\n6\n00:02:00,790 --> 00:02:20,287\n小校小班的目標我們是逐步達成目前的降低班級的師生比是有一定的成效但對於私校的降低師生比是沒有的還沒有達成那對於技職教育的提升我們要更努力比如說高職的退高職轉型為科大科大專科學校\n\n7\n00:02:21,828 --> 00:02:27,535\n轉型為科大有很多人努力在這個階段看來現在各界對於技職教育這一塊大家現在才覺得說非常的嚴重我們如何去調整我們的腳步調整我們的這個政策教育部這邊真的應該要謹慎來思考\n\n8\n00:02:37,485 --> 00:02:45,387\n高中大學的數量雖然大幅增加．其實看起來像是不愁學校可以唸．但是其實升學壓力並沒有比較低108課剛強調說要通才適性的教育．但是根據統計．6成的兒少課後要補習．而且在補習班待超過的時間大概超過9點．超過9成3的孩子每天睡不到8小時．甚至也不到6小時\n\n9\n00:03:02,771 --> 00:03:27,499\n一週運動也不到一小時超過一班以上的學生一週考試超過四天那長期這樣子高課業的壓力又缺乏睡眠的休息狀態之下呢其實有六成以上的國中高中生出現學習疲勞的狀況那這邊我也想請教次長要如何真正減輕學生的壓力以避免說在這樣子高壓的學習的狀態之下他們產生偏差性我們如何適時的提供孩子協助來調適他們心理的壓力\n\n10\n00:03:29,853 --> 00:03:50,042\n委員所關心的的確是我們目前面臨的挑戰我個人認為只要有學校有明星高中大學存在這個學習壓力是沒有辦法解除的這是社會的通念也是家長一般的看法那只有在教育制度設計上比如說我們現在免除高中學生早自習\n\n11\n00:03:51,823 --> 00:03:56,650\n每天頂多有一次的找這個桌會那我覺得這是一個小小的進步那這個其實是在我們學校端可以做的那其實那學生他為了加強自己的學習為了加強這樣的話他們會參加一些其他的課外的一些輔導一些補習\n\n12\n00:04:08,806 --> 00:04:08,826\n陳秀寳議員\n\n13\n00:04:32,999 --> 00:04:39,965\n全國教育會議是什麼原因那教育部願不願意說在我們新政府就任之後馬上來召開全國教育會議你們有沒有規劃在1994、2010年我們在台灣有開過這兩次之前都是在大陸那全國教育會議的確是可以收集各教育關心教育的所有專家學者或者各類團體一起來共商教育國事這個是有必要\n\n14\n00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:19,362\n這個部分本席這邊是希望說其實我們教育的工作我們在現在看到我們教育的工作是忙著解決眼前的問題但是我們對未來10年20年以後這個前瞻性的這個部分我們就很少琢磨是有必要當然全國性的教育會議也許有的人會認為就是那種形式就是那種大拜拜就是大家來坐下來這樣子談但是就真的是一個坐下來討論的一個這個過程是必要的\n\n15\n00:05:21,604 --> 00:05:50,731\n這部分我希望說能夠盡快來規劃召開全國的教育會議來凝聚共識接下來我想要請到次長這陣子對於我們家長們都非常憂心對於藝人華子教持有七部兒少影像這個新聞非常的多那我身邊的家長對這些事情都非常非常擔憂非常的焦慮那我們陳建仁院長也說了表態就是說兒少性剝削是絕對凝蓉忍本席相信這是跨黨派的共識也是全台灣民眾的共識\n\n16\n00:05:51,431 --> 00:06:20,877\n那在這樣子的社會事件跟議題的延燒之下有各方的說法跟有一些在青少年間擁有話語權能力的影響力的這樣的表態的這樣的氛圍一定會影響到我們的孩子所以這邊我想請次長跟署長你們身為國教事務的組長現在剛放完年假而且又大地震後續這些影響我們的孩子在目前的身心狀態他們在學校的學習是能夠定下心來安穩學習的嗎這個部分你們有沒有去注意\n\n17\n00:06:23,468 --> 00:06:40,531\n委員所關心的這幾點包含兒少保護的相關的這個宣導就如同陳院長所說的我們有一定的機制下架其他傷害兒童相關的不雅的影片這個目前已經比較這個平台已經建立了\n\n18\n00:06:40,791 --> 00:06:54,493\n提到了在這邊本席要正式要求教育部跟我們教育部狹下的所有單位不管是圖書館、學校等單位你們要全面的檢視過去有跟這個藝人黃子江合作的所有資訊公開圖卡一定要全部下架這個部分你們有在做嗎?\n\n19\n00:06:55,387 --> 00:06:56,087\n本席提到這個部分是希望說我們能夠適時的提供我們孩子心理的協助\n\n20\n00:07:15,413 --> 00:07:15,853\n對AI的發展本席一直覺得\n\n21\n00:07:41,556 --> 00:07:43,217\n教育部主辦的閱讀比賽及學校辦理的會圖比賽．雙雙出現AI的參與我們在討論學生是否是投機的心態這個時候有沒有思考過教育的本質不是強硬的禁止\n\n22\n00:08:06,849 --> 00:08:07,750\n提升AI運用的素養包含倫理包含誠實包含自己要發揮創意呈現AI作品這才是有價值\n\n23\n00:08:26,632 --> 00:08:49,910\n對次長您說的就是我也希望就像次長您說的這樣子來做我們應該要召集各學校針對這個AI的這個衝擊及後續因應來做相對應的回應禁止不是唯一的選擇不是唯一的做法那麼如何跟AI共存俱進這個部分也希望說我們可以思考並帶領各學校我們一起來進步往前走好那接下來呢要針對今天的專報的題目來就叫次長\n\n24\n00:08:54,333 --> 00:09:10,908\n總共共的初衷是希望可以減輕家長的負擔家長的壓力但是根據本席這邊跟你們討要資料近三年幼兒園不但管教件數一直增加從110年的59件成案111年112件到112年有182件是成案的那這個是已經調查屬實平均一個月下來是有將近15件\n\n25\n00:09:20,697 --> 00:09:25,538\n市長你覺得看這個訊息這個數字你會不會憂心跟家長一樣非常擔心是幼兒不當管教我們在去年幼保雙法這個立法通過以後我們強化了相關的認定的機制包含縣市政府成立認定委員會對於有關於對待不當對待的相關的幼兒事件我們才開始呈現比較真實的數據\n\n26\n00:09:48,353 --> 00:10:02,586\n除了說我們去這個認定這個基準這個標準如何說認定它是一個成案那是一個事實之外你們有沒有去去討論就是說探究為什麼會有這麼多的這個不當管教事件發生原因何在\n\n27\n00:10:03,391 --> 00:10:07,275\n我覺得在教保人員在基層服務的時候他面臨很多的壓力他也許有一些不當的行為對待兒童那當下他就已經處罰了所以我們這方面應該要從教保員的相關的智能的提升延期的這個量能的推展\n\n28\n00:10:23,251 --> 00:10:23,271\n陳秀寳議員\n\n29\n00:10:42,069 --> 00:10:54,894\n教育部也要研討相關管理措施,針對無法續約的原所即將轉出的幼兒,教育部有沒有向地方政府瞭解實際運作的困難以及需要協助的事項?\n\n30\n00:10:56,776 --> 00:11:11,253\n主要是如果他是一約退場那我們對學生我們有相關的安置的安排這樣的安排是到位的嗎那轉出原所這些孩子他們在適應上有沒有影響有沒有問題那整個過程裡面家長會不會覺得他們負擔更重壓力更大\n\n31\n00:11:15,868 --> 00:11:18,030\n市長,因為我這邊時間也到了,希望說教育部這邊可以跟地方的縣市政府加強聯繫跟溝通。\n\n32\n00:11:36,830 --> 00:11:36,990\n謝謝秀寳委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7824\t10827\t請次長有請林次長委員好次長早安今天是4月10日1994年的410教改大遊行到今天剛好滿30年那這邊我想請教次長您對教改覺得有什麼成效如果100分您給教改打幾分\n33854\t33894\t主席\n52381\t67415\t我自己成為一個教育的基層工作者這方面我還是覺得有所進展那我們的孩子也一年一年的成長跟進步這是正面的當然也產生了一些負面的影響比如說私校退朝還有相關的這個教育人員相關的品質的提升這個還有很多的努力\n76383\t90994\t市長其實我們對於教育政策如何與時期進行如何滾動檢討﹐所以使得針對我們所做的政策不合時宜的地方來調整﹐這個部分很重要本期很肯定林委員長當初願意站出來推動教改﹐\n91314\t119276\t但是後續的改革似乎大家都覺得糟蹭了就是不符這個期待那全教總這邊也說教改小班小校的這個目標並沒有達成而廣設高中大學也沒有真正的減輕升學的壓力甚至更甚的是弱化了技職教育那次長您覺得說好如果我們要來如何加速推動這個小班小校的這個政策目標還有強化技職教育跟那個產業來接軌您的看法呢\n120790\t140287\t小校小班的目標我們是逐步達成目前的降低班級的師生比是有一定的成效但對於私校的降低師生比是沒有的還沒有達成那對於技職教育的提升我們要更努力比如說高職的退高職轉型為科大科大專科學校\n141828\t147535\t轉型為科大有很多人努力在這個階段看來現在各界對於技職教育這一塊大家現在才覺得說非常的嚴重我們如何去調整我們的腳步調整我們的這個政策教育部這邊真的應該要謹慎來思考\n157485\t165387\t高中大學的數量雖然大幅增加．其實看起來像是不愁學校可以唸．但是其實升學壓力並沒有比較低108課剛強調說要通才適性的教育．但是根據統計．6成的兒少課後要補習．而且在補習班待超過的時間大概超過9點．超過9成3的孩子每天睡不到8小時．甚至也不到6小時\n182771\t207499\t一週運動也不到一小時 超過一班以上的學生一週考試超過四天那長期這樣子高課業的壓力又缺乏睡眠的休息狀態之下呢其實有六成以上的國中高中生出現學習疲勞的狀況那這邊我也想請教次長要如何真正減輕學生的壓力以避免說在這樣子高壓的學習的狀態之下他們產生偏差性我們如何適時的提供孩子協助來調適他們心理的壓力\n209853\t230042\t委員所關心的的確是我們目前面臨的挑戰我個人認為只要有學校有明星高中大學存在這個學習壓力是沒有辦法解除的這是社會的通念也是家長一般的看法那只有在教育制度設計上比如說我們現在免除高中學生早自習\n231823\t236650\t每天頂多有一次的找這個桌會那我覺得這是一個小小的進步那這個其實是在我們學校端可以做的那其實那學生他為了加強自己的學習為了加強這樣的話他們會參加一些其他的課外的一些輔導一些補習\n248806\t248826\t陳秀寳議員\n272999\t279965\t全國教育會議是什麼原因那教育部願不願意說在我們新政府就任之後馬上來召開全國教育會議你們有沒有規劃在1994、2010年我們在台灣有開過這兩次之前都是在大陸那全國教育會議的確是可以收集各教育關心教育的所有專家學者或者各類團體一起來共商教育國事這個是有必要\n298520\t319362\t這個部分本席這邊是希望說其實我們教育的工作我們在現在看到我們教育的工作是忙著解決眼前的問題但是我們對未來10年20年以後這個前瞻性的這個部分我們就很少琢磨是有必要當然全國性的教育會議也許有的人會認為就是那種形式就是那種大拜拜就是大家來坐下來這樣子談但是就真的是一個坐下來討論的一個這個過程是必要的\n321604\t350731\t這部分我希望說能夠盡快來規劃召開全國的教育會議來凝聚共識接下來我想要請到次長這陣子對於我們家長們都非常憂心對於藝人華子教持有七部兒少影像這個新聞非常的多那我身邊的家長對這些事情都非常非常擔憂非常的焦慮那我們陳建仁院長也說了表態就是說兒少性剝削是絕對凝蓉忍本席相信這是跨黨派的共識也是全台灣民眾的共識\n351431\t380877\t那在這樣子的社會事件跟議題的延燒之下有各方的說法跟有一些在青少年間擁有話語權能力的影響力的這樣的表態的這樣的氛圍一定會影響到我們的孩子所以這邊我想請次長跟署長你們身為國教事務的組長現在剛放完年假而且又大地震後續這些影響我們的孩子在目前的身心狀態他們在學校的學習是能夠定下心來安穩學習的嗎這個部分你們有沒有去注意\n383468\t400531\t委員所關心的這幾點包含兒少保護的相關的這個宣導就如同陳院長所說的我們有一定的機制下架其他傷害兒童相關的不雅的影片這個目前已經比較這個平台已經建立了\n400791\t414493\t提到了在這邊本席要正式要求教育部跟我們教育部狹下的所有單位不管是圖書館、學校等單位你們要全面的檢視過去有跟這個藝人黃子江合作的所有資訊公開圖卡一定要全部下架這個部分你們有在做嗎?\n415387\t416087\t本席提到這個部分是希望說我們能夠適時的提供我們孩子心理的協助\n435413\t435853\t對AI的發展本席一直覺得\n461556\t463217\t教育部主辦的閱讀比賽及學校辦理的會圖比賽．雙雙出現AI的參與我們在討論學生是否是投機的心態這個時候有沒有思考過教育的本質不是強硬的禁止\n486849\t487750\t提升AI運用的素養 包含倫理 包含誠實 包含自己要發揮創意 呈現AI作品 這才是有價值\n506632\t529910\t對 次長您說的就是我也希望就像次長您說的這樣子來做我們應該要召集各學校針對這個AI的這個衝擊及後續因應來做相對應的回應禁止不是唯一的選擇不是唯一的做法那麼如何跟AI共存俱進這個部分也希望說我們可以思考並帶領各學校我們一起來進步往前走好 那接下來呢要針對今天的專報的題目來就叫次長\n534333\t550908\t總共共的初衷是希望可以減輕家長的負擔家長的壓力但是根據本席這邊跟你們討要資料近三年幼兒園不但管教件數一直增加從110年的59件成案111年112件到112年有182件是成案的那這個是已經調查屬實平均一個月下來是有將近15件\n560697\t565538\t市長你覺得看這個訊息這個數字你會不會憂心跟家長一樣非常擔心是 幼兒不當管教我們在去年幼保雙法這個立法通過以後我們強化了相關的認定的機制包含縣市政府成立認定委員會對於有關於對待不當對待的相關的幼兒事件我們才開始呈現比較真實的數據\n588353\t602586\t除了說我們去這個認定這個基準這個標準如何說認定它是一個成案那是一個事實之外你們有沒有去去討論就是說探究為什麼會有這麼多的這個不當管教事件發生原因何在\n603391\t607275\t我覺得在教保人員在基層服務的時候他面臨很多的壓力他也許有一些不當的行為對待兒童那當下他就已經處罰了所以我們這方面應該要從教保員的相關的智能的提升延期的這個量能的推展\n623251\t623271\t陳秀寳議員\n642069\t654894\t教育部也要研討相關管理措施,針對無法續約的原所即將轉出的幼兒,教育部有沒有向地方政府瞭解實際運作的困難以及需要協助的事項?\n656776\t671253\t主要是如果他是一約退場那我們對學生我們有相關的安置的安排這樣的安排是到位的嗎那轉出原所這些孩子他們在適應上有沒有影響有沒有問題那整個過程裡面家長會不會覺得他們負擔更重壓力更大\n675868\t678030\t市長,因為我這邊時間也到了,希望說教育部這邊可以跟地方的縣市政府加強聯繫跟溝通。\n696830\t696990\t謝謝秀寳委員\n","txt":"請次長有請林次長委員好次長早安今天是4月10日1994年的410教改大遊行到今天剛好滿30年那這邊我想請教次長您對教改覺得有什麼成效如果100分您給教改打幾分\n主席\n我自己成為一個教育的基層工作者這方面我還是覺得有所進展那我們的孩子也一年一年的成長跟進步這是正面的當然也產生了一些負面的影響比如說私校退朝還有相關的這個教育人員相關的品質的提升這個還有很多的努力\n市長其實我們對於教育政策如何與時期進行如何滾動檢討﹐所以使得針對我們所做的政策不合時宜的地方來調整﹐這個部分很重要本期很肯定林委員長當初願意站出來推動教改﹐\n但是後續的改革似乎大家都覺得糟蹭了就是不符這個期待那全教總這邊也說教改小班小校的這個目標並沒有達成而廣設高中大學也沒有真正的減輕升學的壓力甚至更甚的是弱化了技職教育那次長您覺得說好如果我們要來如何加速推動這個小班小校的這個政策目標還有強化技職教育跟那個產業來接軌您的看法呢\n小校小班的目標我們是逐步達成目前的降低班級的師生比是有一定的成效但對於私校的降低師生比是沒有的還沒有達成那對於技職教育的提升我們要更努力比如說高職的退高職轉型為科大科大專科學校\n轉型為科大有很多人努力在這個階段看來現在各界對於技職教育這一塊大家現在才覺得說非常的嚴重我們如何去調整我們的腳步調整我們的這個政策教育部這邊真的應該要謹慎來思考\n高中大學的數量雖然大幅增加．其實看起來像是不愁學校可以唸．但是其實升學壓力並沒有比較低108課剛強調說要通才適性的教育．但是根據統計．6成的兒少課後要補習．而且在補習班待超過的時間大概超過9點．超過9成3的孩子每天睡不到8小時．甚至也不到6小時\n一週運動也不到一小時 超過一班以上的學生一週考試超過四天那長期這樣子高課業的壓力又缺乏睡眠的休息狀態之下呢其實有六成以上的國中高中生出現學習疲勞的狀況那這邊我也想請教次長要如何真正減輕學生的壓力以避免說在這樣子高壓的學習的狀態之下他們產生偏差性我們如何適時的提供孩子協助來調適他們心理的壓力\n委員所關心的的確是我們目前面臨的挑戰我個人認為只要有學校有明星高中大學存在這個學習壓力是沒有辦法解除的這是社會的通念也是家長一般的看法那只有在教育制度設計上比如說我們現在免除高中學生早自習\n每天頂多有一次的找這個桌會那我覺得這是一個小小的進步那這個其實是在我們學校端可以做的那其實那學生他為了加強自己的學習為了加強這樣的話他們會參加一些其他的課外的一些輔導一些補習\n陳秀寳議員\n全國教育會議是什麼原因那教育部願不願意說在我們新政府就任之後馬上來召開全國教育會議你們有沒有規劃在1994、2010年我們在台灣有開過這兩次之前都是在大陸那全國教育會議的確是可以收集各教育關心教育的所有專家學者或者各類團體一起來共商教育國事這個是有必要\n這個部分本席這邊是希望說其實我們教育的工作我們在現在看到我們教育的工作是忙著解決眼前的問題但是我們對未來10年20年以後這個前瞻性的這個部分我們就很少琢磨是有必要當然全國性的教育會議也許有的人會認為就是那種形式就是那種大拜拜就是大家來坐下來這樣子談但是就真的是一個坐下來討論的一個這個過程是必要的\n這部分我希望說能夠盡快來規劃召開全國的教育會議來凝聚共識接下來我想要請到次長這陣子對於我們家長們都非常憂心對於藝人華子教持有七部兒少影像這個新聞非常的多那我身邊的家長對這些事情都非常非常擔憂非常的焦慮那我們陳建仁院長也說了表態就是說兒少性剝削是絕對凝蓉忍本席相信這是跨黨派的共識也是全台灣民眾的共識\n那在這樣子的社會事件跟議題的延燒之下有各方的說法跟有一些在青少年間擁有話語權能力的影響力的這樣的表態的這樣的氛圍一定會影響到我們的孩子所以這邊我想請次長跟署長你們身為國教事務的組長現在剛放完年假而且又大地震後續這些影響我們的孩子在目前的身心狀態他們在學校的學習是能夠定下心來安穩學習的嗎這個部分你們有沒有去注意\n委員所關心的這幾點包含兒少保護的相關的這個宣導就如同陳院長所說的我們有一定的機制下架其他傷害兒童相關的不雅的影片這個目前已經比較這個平台已經建立了\n提到了在這邊本席要正式要求教育部跟我們教育部狹下的所有單位不管是圖書館、學校等單位你們要全面的檢視過去有跟這個藝人黃子江合作的所有資訊公開圖卡一定要全部下架這個部分你們有在做嗎?\n本席提到這個部分是希望說我們能夠適時的提供我們孩子心理的協助\n對AI的發展本席一直覺得\n教育部主辦的閱讀比賽及學校辦理的會圖比賽．雙雙出現AI的參與我們在討論學生是否是投機的心態這個時候有沒有思考過教育的本質不是強硬的禁止\n提升AI運用的素養 包含倫理 包含誠實 包含自己要發揮創意 呈現AI作品 這才是有價值\n對 次長您說的就是我也希望就像次長您說的這樣子來做我們應該要召集各學校針對這個AI的這個衝擊及後續因應來做相對應的回應禁止不是唯一的選擇不是唯一的做法那麼如何跟AI共存俱進這個部分也希望說我們可以思考並帶領各學校我們一起來進步往前走好 那接下來呢要針對今天的專報的題目來就叫次長\n總共共的初衷是希望可以減輕家長的負擔家長的壓力但是根據本席這邊跟你們討要資料近三年幼兒園不但管教件數一直增加從110年的59件成案111年112件到112年有182件是成案的那這個是已經調查屬實平均一個月下來是有將近15件\n市長你覺得看這個訊息這個數字你會不會憂心跟家長一樣非常擔心是 幼兒不當管教我們在去年幼保雙法這個立法通過以後我們強化了相關的認定的機制包含縣市政府成立認定委員會對於有關於對待不當對待的相關的幼兒事件我們才開始呈現比較真實的數據\n除了說我們去這個認定這個基準這個標準如何說認定它是一個成案那是一個事實之外你們有沒有去去討論就是說探究為什麼會有這麼多的這個不當管教事件發生原因何在\n我覺得在教保人員在基層服務的時候他面臨很多的壓力他也許有一些不當的行為對待兒童那當下他就已經處罰了所以我們這方面應該要從教保員的相關的智能的提升延期的這個量能的推展\n陳秀寳議員\n教育部也要研討相關管理措施,針對無法續約的原所即將轉出的幼兒,教育部有沒有向地方政府瞭解實際運作的困難以及需要協助的事項?\n主要是如果他是一約退場那我們對學生我們有相關的安置的安排這樣的安排是到位的嗎那轉出原所這些孩子他們在適應上有沒有影響有沒有問題那整個過程裡面家長會不會覺得他們負擔更重壓力更大\n市長,因為我這邊時間也到了,希望說教育部這邊可以跟地方的縣市政府加強聯繫跟溝通。\n謝謝秀寳委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.824 --> 00:10.827\n請次長有請林次長委員好次長早安今天是4月10日1994年的410教改大遊行到今天剛好滿30年那這邊我想請教次長您對教改覺得有什麼成效如果100分您給教改打幾分\n\n00:33.854 --> 00:33.894\n主席\n\n00:52.381 --> 01:07.415\n我自己成為一個教育的基層工作者這方面我還是覺得有所進展那我們的孩子也一年一年的成長跟進步這是正面的當然也產生了一些負面的影響比如說私校退朝還有相關的這個教育人員相關的品質的提升這個還有很多的努力\n\n01:16.383 --> 01:30.994\n市長其實我們對於教育政策如何與時期進行如何滾動檢討﹐所以使得針對我們所做的政策不合時宜的地方來調整﹐這個部分很重要本期很肯定林委員長當初願意站出來推動教改﹐\n\n01:31.314 --> 01:59.276\n但是後續的改革似乎大家都覺得糟蹭了就是不符這個期待那全教總這邊也說教改小班小校的這個目標並沒有達成而廣設高中大學也沒有真正的減輕升學的壓力甚至更甚的是弱化了技職教育那次長您覺得說好如果我們要來如何加速推動這個小班小校的這個政策目標還有強化技職教育跟那個產業來接軌您的看法呢\n\n02:00.790 --> 02:20.287\n小校小班的目標我們是逐步達成目前的降低班級的師生比是有一定的成效但對於私校的降低師生比是沒有的還沒有達成那對於技職教育的提升我們要更努力比如說高職的退高職轉型為科大科大專科學校\n\n02:21.828 --> 02:27.535\n轉型為科大有很多人努力在這個階段看來現在各界對於技職教育這一塊大家現在才覺得說非常的嚴重我們如何去調整我們的腳步調整我們的這個政策教育部這邊真的應該要謹慎來思考\n\n02:37.485 --> 02:45.387\n高中大學的數量雖然大幅增加．其實看起來像是不愁學校可以唸．但是其實升學壓力並沒有比較低108課剛強調說要通才適性的教育．但是根據統計．6成的兒少課後要補習．而且在補習班待超過的時間大概超過9點．超過9成3的孩子每天睡不到8小時．甚至也不到6小時\n\n03:02.771 --> 03:27.499\n一週運動也不到一小時超過一班以上的學生一週考試超過四天那長期這樣子高課業的壓力又缺乏睡眠的休息狀態之下呢其實有六成以上的國中高中生出現學習疲勞的狀況那這邊我也想請教次長要如何真正減輕學生的壓力以避免說在這樣子高壓的學習的狀態之下他們產生偏差性我們如何適時的提供孩子協助來調適他們心理的壓力\n\n03:29.853 --> 03:50.042\n委員所關心的的確是我們目前面臨的挑戰我個人認為只要有學校有明星高中大學存在這個學習壓力是沒有辦法解除的這是社會的通念也是家長一般的看法那只有在教育制度設計上比如說我們現在免除高中學生早自習\n\n03:51.823 --> 03:56.650\n每天頂多有一次的找這個桌會那我覺得這是一個小小的進步那這個其實是在我們學校端可以做的那其實那學生他為了加強自己的學習為了加強這樣的話他們會參加一些其他的課外的一些輔導一些補習\n\n04:08.806 --> 04:08.826\n陳秀寳議員\n\n04:32.999 --> 04:39.965\n全國教育會議是什麼原因那教育部願不願意說在我們新政府就任之後馬上來召開全國教育會議你們有沒有規劃在1994、2010年我們在台灣有開過這兩次之前都是在大陸那全國教育會議的確是可以收集各教育關心教育的所有專家學者或者各類團體一起來共商教育國事這個是有必要\n\n04:58.520 --> 05:19.362\n這個部分本席這邊是希望說其實我們教育的工作我們在現在看到我們教育的工作是忙著解決眼前的問題但是我們對未來10年20年以後這個前瞻性的這個部分我們就很少琢磨是有必要當然全國性的教育會議也許有的人會認為就是那種形式就是那種大拜拜就是大家來坐下來這樣子談但是就真的是一個坐下來討論的一個這個過程是必要的\n\n05:21.604 --> 05:50.731\n這部分我希望說能夠盡快來規劃召開全國的教育會議來凝聚共識接下來我想要請到次長這陣子對於我們家長們都非常憂心對於藝人華子教持有七部兒少影像這個新聞非常的多那我身邊的家長對這些事情都非常非常擔憂非常的焦慮那我們陳建仁院長也說了表態就是說兒少性剝削是絕對凝蓉忍本席相信這是跨黨派的共識也是全台灣民眾的共識\n\n05:51.431 --> 06:20.877\n那在這樣子的社會事件跟議題的延燒之下有各方的說法跟有一些在青少年間擁有話語權能力的影響力的這樣的表態的這樣的氛圍一定會影響到我們的孩子所以這邊我想請次長跟署長你們身為國教事務的組長現在剛放完年假而且又大地震後續這些影響我們的孩子在目前的身心狀態他們在學校的學習是能夠定下心來安穩學習的嗎這個部分你們有沒有去注意\n\n06:23.468 --> 06:40.531\n委員所關心的這幾點包含兒少保護的相關的這個宣導就如同陳院長所說的我們有一定的機制下架其他傷害兒童相關的不雅的影片這個目前已經比較這個平台已經建立了\n\n06:40.791 --> 06:54.493\n提到了在這邊本席要正式要求教育部跟我們教育部狹下的所有單位不管是圖書館、學校等單位你們要全面的檢視過去有跟這個藝人黃子江合作的所有資訊公開圖卡一定要全部下架這個部分你們有在做嗎?\n\n06:55.387 --> 06:56.087\n本席提到這個部分是希望說我們能夠適時的提供我們孩子心理的協助\n\n07:15.413 --> 07:15.853\n對AI的發展本席一直覺得\n\n07:41.556 --> 07:43.217\n教育部主辦的閱讀比賽及學校辦理的會圖比賽．雙雙出現AI的參與我們在討論學生是否是投機的心態這個時候有沒有思考過教育的本質不是強硬的禁止\n\n08:06.849 --> 08:07.750\n提升AI運用的素養包含倫理包含誠實包含自己要發揮創意呈現AI作品這才是有價值\n\n08:26.632 --> 08:49.910\n對次長您說的就是我也希望就像次長您說的這樣子來做我們應該要召集各學校針對這個AI的這個衝擊及後續因應來做相對應的回應禁止不是唯一的選擇不是唯一的做法那麼如何跟AI共存俱進這個部分也希望說我們可以思考並帶領各學校我們一起來進步往前走好那接下來呢要針對今天的專報的題目來就叫次長\n\n08:54.333 --> 09:10.908\n總共共的初衷是希望可以減輕家長的負擔家長的壓力但是根據本席這邊跟你們討要資料近三年幼兒園不但管教件數一直增加從110年的59件成案111年112件到112年有182件是成案的那這個是已經調查屬實平均一個月下來是有將近15件\n\n09:20.697 --> 09:25.538\n市長你覺得看這個訊息這個數字你會不會憂心跟家長一樣非常擔心是幼兒不當管教我們在去年幼保雙法這個立法通過以後我們強化了相關的認定的機制包含縣市政府成立認定委員會對於有關於對待不當對待的相關的幼兒事件我們才開始呈現比較真實的數據\n\n09:48.353 --> 10:02.586\n除了說我們去這個認定這個基準這個標準如何說認定它是一個成案那是一個事實之外你們有沒有去去討論就是說探究為什麼會有這麼多的這個不當管教事件發生原因何在\n\n10:03.391 --> 10:07.275\n我覺得在教保人員在基層服務的時候他面臨很多的壓力他也許有一些不當的行為對待兒童那當下他就已經處罰了所以我們這方面應該要從教保員的相關的智能的提升延期的這個量能的推展\n\n10:23.251 --> 10:23.271\n陳秀寳議員\n\n10:42.069 --> 10:54.894\n教育部也要研討相關管理措施,針對無法續約的原所即將轉出的幼兒,教育部有沒有向地方政府瞭解實際運作的困難以及需要協助的事項?\n\n10:56.776 --> 11:11.253\n主要是如果他是一約退場那我們對學生我們有相關的安置的安排這樣的安排是到位的嗎那轉出原所這些孩子他們在適應上有沒有影響有沒有問題那整個過程裡面家長會不會覺得他們負擔更重壓力更大\n\n11:15.868 --> 11:18.030\n市長,因為我這邊時間也到了,希望說教育部這邊可以跟地方的縣市政府加強聯繫跟溝通。\n\n11:36.830 --> 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幼兒不當管教我們在去年幼保雙法這個立法通過以後我們強化了相關的認定的機制包含縣市政府成立認定委員會對於有關於對待不當對待的相關的幼兒事件我們才開始呈現比較真實的數據"},{"start":588.353,"end":602.586,"text":"除了說我們去這個認定這個基準這個標準如何說認定它是一個成案那是一個事實之外你們有沒有去去討論就是說探究為什麼會有這麼多的這個不當管教事件發生原因何在"},{"start":603.391,"end":607.275,"text":"我覺得在教保人員在基層服務的時候他面臨很多的壓力他也許有一些不當的行為對待兒童那當下他就已經處罰了所以我們這方面應該要從教保員的相關的智能的提升延期的這個量能的推展"},{"start":623.251,"end":623.271,"text":"陳秀寳議員"},{"start":642.069,"end":654.894,"text":"教育部也要研討相關管理措施,針對無法續約的原所即將轉出的幼兒,教育部有沒有向地方政府瞭解實際運作的困難以及需要協助的事項?"},{"start":656.776,"end":671.253,"text":"主要是如果他是一約退場那我們對學生我們有相關的安置的安排這樣的安排是到位的嗎那轉出原所這些孩子他們在適應上有沒有影響有沒有問題那整個過程裡面家長會不會覺得他們負擔更重壓力更大"},{"start":675.868,"end":678.03,"text":"市長,因為我這邊時間也到了,希望說教育部這邊可以跟地方的縣市政府加強聯繫跟溝通。"},{"start":696.83,"end":696.99,"text":"謝謝秀寳委員"}]}}}}