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00:04:37,257\n好,也因為這個重大的爭議、重大的撻伐之後民間反應很大甚至還提出了五大訴求部長你對這個五大訴求民間版的五大訴求這件事情你怎麼看我不是叫你做一一對五個訴求來做飯我說你對民間提出五大訴求這件事情怎麼看\n\n13\n00:04:37,637 --> 00:04:41,441\n邱議瑩等21人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案案件事件事件事件事件\n\n14\n00:04:52,834 --> 00:04:54,196\n草案案件事務委員委員會主席\n\n15\n00:05:07,891 --> 00:05:08,551\n邱議瑩等21人擬具:「再生醫療\n\n16\n00:05:28,459 --> 00:05:38,350\n福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全\n\n17\n00:05:50,643 --> 00:06:17,304\n那麼今天我們過去一年的時間社會不知道其實我們在對於兒少的這個保護的部分已經做了這麼大的修正每一項大家新年關注其實他講的五大項我們幾乎都有對應相對應的現有的措施現有的法規就可以處理了這是第一個第二關於加重刑責的部分在去年已經也全面性的加重了\n\n18\n00:06:18,510 --> 00:06:42,735\n但社會不知道啊社會不知道那好王洋還可以補勞那我想請問這幾天從事發到今天衛福部有對這件事情對我們要利用民氣可用的這件事情告訴大家說不好意思其實我們已經有這麼重的法了有宣導嗎沒有啊我看保護師也沒有在這件事情上面處理啊社群沒有任何一篇發文啊我是覺得這樣很可惜啊\n\n19\n00:06:45,416 --> 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»:所以我們更需要一部規範來把這些行為甚至是管理方式要能夠建構起來嘛這就是我們今天在處理這部再生醫療相關法案最終的目的好啦那第九屆第十屆各有不同的原因所以而卡關那\n邱議瑩等21人擬具〈再生醫療法草案案〉案\n邱議瑩等21人擬具:「再生醫療法草案案件件件件件件件件件件件件件件\n醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生醫療法草案案件事宜及衛生\n我現在不是委員會的,我只有5分鐘的時間,剩下一分半,我再問一個別的,市長可以回座。我們要問一下今天的時事議題,就是相關的這個有藝人因為持有不法拍攝的兒少影片,性隱私的影片所衍生的爭議,社會真的是沸沸揚揚。\n好,也因為這個重大的爭議、重大的撻伐之後民間反應很大甚至還提出了五大訴求部長你對這個五大訴求民間版的五大訴求這件事情你怎麼看我不是叫你做一一對五個訴求來做飯我說你對民間提出五大訴求這件事情怎麼看\n邱議瑩等21人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案案件事件事件事件事件\n草案案件事務委員委員會主席\n邱議瑩等21人擬具:「再生醫療\n福利及衛生環境委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全體委員會第11次全\n那麼今天我們過去一年的時間社會不知道其實我們在對於兒少的這個保護的部分已經做了這麼大的修正每一項大家新年關注其實他講的五大項我們幾乎都有對應相對應的現有的措施現有的法規就可以處理了這是第一個第二關於加重刑責的部分在去年已經也全面性的加重了\n但社會不知道啊社會不知道那好王洋還可以補勞那我想請問這幾天從事發到今天衛福部有對這件事情對我們要利用民氣可用的這件事情告訴大家說不好意思其實我們已經有這麼重的法了有宣導嗎沒有啊我看保護師也沒有在這件事情上面處理啊社群沒有任何一篇發文啊我是覺得這樣很可惜啊\n就是大家這麼努力做我為什麼會這樣講因為這部去年修法的時候我也在場啊我也是衛環委員會的委員我就有參與啊我還提了附帶決議啊對說到附帶決議我就想問當時我有附帶決議我說因為我要求這個不法影片要能夠即刻下架當時說24小時好可是24小時業者說欸這個有困難難度那大家也都經過一番討論以後說欸對真的有難度\n邱議瑩等21人擬具\n那我可不可以按照去年修法時候的附帶條件請衛福部這邊提出資料來我們公布給大家我們要讓大家知道修法前和修法後到底有沒有改變嘛這要有差別啊才能已遭公信啊\n邱議瑩等25人擬具:「再生醫療發展法草案案件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件事件\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.223 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