{"id":151046,"url":"https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/151046","video_url":"https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/40ef09094e90200b6e2140e073507252e63a84d836101fd2f8ba9b0039caa7a65a3d332f07b030805ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8","委員名稱":"賴瑞隆","委員發言時間":"11:07:04 - 11:14:29","影片長度":"00:07:25","會議時間":"2024-04-11T09:00:00+08:00","會議名稱":"立法院第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、審查：\n（一）行政院函請審議「遠洋漁業條例第十四條之一、第三十六條之一及第四十七條條文修正草案」案。\n（二）本院委員邱鎮軍等18人擬具「遠洋漁業條例部分條文修正草案」案。\n（三）本院委員楊瓊瓔等21人擬具「遠洋漁業條例增訂第十四條之一及第三十八條之一條文草案」案。\n          （第二案及第三案如經復議，則不予審查。）\n二、審查：\n（一）行政院函請審議「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。\n（二）本院委員鄭天財Sra Kacaw等21人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。\n（三）本院委員賴瑞隆等16人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。\n（四）本院委員黃捷等22人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。\n（五）本院委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等16人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。\n（六）本院委員郭昱晴等16人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。\n（七）本院委員呂玉玲等17人擬具「野生動物保育法第十九條、第二十一條及第二十一條之一條文修正草案」案。\n（八）本院委員張雅琳等18人擬具「野生動物保育法部分條文修正草案」案。\n　      （第八案如經復議，則不予審查。）\n【4月10日及11日二天一次會】）","meet":{"tmpMeeting":null,"title":"第11屆第1會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議","term":11,"type":"委員會","sessionPeriod":1,"sessionTimes":7,"committees":[19],"id":"委員會-11-1-19-7"},"date":"2024-04-11","duration":445,"end_time":"2024-04-11T11:14:29+08:00","start_time":"2024-04-11T11:07:04+08:00","features":["ai-transcript","gazette"],"type":"Clip","gazette":{"lineno":649,"blocks":[["賴委員瑞隆：（11時7分）謝謝主席，請陳部長。"],["主席：請陳部長。"],["賴委員瑞隆：部長，今天要處理遠洋漁業條例，臺灣作為漁業的大國，我們一定是跟著國際相關規範來走，我們大概來做一些相關的處理，但我還是要再提醒農業部，從全球漁業的狀況來看，未來10年其實還是會呈現上升的趨勢，包括人類對於魚類的需求，因為它是一個很好的蛋白質來源，我想都會持續地來增加，特別是在高收入的國家，它的量會持續地增加，所以作為本來就是遠洋漁大國，其實這是我們的一些優勢，我也希望農業部跟漁業署能夠持續地強化我們在漁業上面的這些優勢，不要讓我們原來很具有競爭力、很有優勢的一個產業在國際競爭上反而趨於弱勢。"],["陳代理部長駿季：是，我們會持續努力，特別是目前漁業的資源日益衰竭的時候，我們要怎麼樣透過一些方法讓這個資源再回復，以確保我們資源的永續，這個是我們近期一直在努力、在調整的方向。"],["賴委員瑞隆：對，就海洋跟整個漁業這兩件事情其實都是重要的事物，全世界也都高度關注，我們既然已經作為是海洋也作為是漁業大國的時候，我們應該更善加運用優勢，不管是在產業或在國際上取得一個更好的位置。"],["陳代理部長駿季：是，瞭解。"],["賴委員瑞隆：也希望這部分未來能跟行政院持續來爭取，不管是在人員、預算或組織上面都能夠有更多的支持。"],["陳代理部長駿季：是。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我們的遠洋業其實真的是相當具有競爭力，2022年的時候，遠洋漁業有48萬噸，年產值大概355億，這還不包括上下游的相關產業、包括整個加工業、包括冷凍倉儲、包括修造船或者是漁網漁具，這些在全世界都是非常強的，如果整體來看，是超過千億的。但是從去年前鎮漁港發生的事情就知道，其實很多國人並不了解，甚至很多當時要選立委的議員都還不太清楚，所以我的意思是，這部分還是希望部跟署裡面要加強去做宣導，我們有這麼強的遠洋實力，如果連要參選立委的人都搞不清楚，還講什麼抓哥吉拉，還在虧這種的話，顯然是完全不瞭解，那一般國人就更不一定那麼清楚，甚至還可能被似是而非的言論所影響，我還是希望未來加強去宣導，我們的漁業是很強的而且有高產值，甚至於在很多的產業方面是養家活口，撐起很多人生計的，我覺得這個要不斷地讓國人更清楚地知道。"],["陳代理部長駿季：會，我們會持續加強宣導遠洋漁業本身正面的貢獻，雖然有少部分、偶發的「老鼠屎」，但絕對不能影響整個遠洋漁業正面的貢獻。"],["賴委員瑞隆：兩件事情，一是遠洋漁業的重要性要持續讓大家知道，另外一方面是對於少數、負面、不肖的行為，我們要有效去遏止，不要讓這些行為影響到多數。"],["陳代理部長駿季：瞭解。"],["賴委員瑞隆：也不要讓這些影響到我們的國際形象，我覺得這一塊要持續加強。"],["陳代理部長駿季：我們會來努力。"],["賴委員瑞隆：IUU今天我們大概會處理到。另外有一個是從2017年到2020年之間，依遠洋漁業條例裁罰了大概520筆，金額大概三億多，即3億3,737萬，有303艘漁船被開罰，我們的總數有1,100艘，也就是有將近三分之一、超過四分之一踩到這一條線被裁罰，顯然在很多的宣導跟溝通、輔導上，還有更多加強的空間。請部長跟署長以一個月內的時間再整體盤點一下，好不好？"],["陳代理部長駿季：好。"],["賴委員瑞隆：對於一些輔導的機制或有什麼樣的機制，讓這些漁民們不要那麼輕易地踩到這一條紅線，好不好？"],["陳代理部長駿季：好，我們會更積極地去做，因為有些踩到線的是船員的配置跟相關的部分，我們把它分類。我也跟委員說明，特別是有一些比較重大的違規，我們都會用服務的角度，包括他越線，我們會先提醒他，我們已經在研究這個機制。"],["賴委員瑞隆：一個月的時間把它整理出來，好不好？"],["陳代理部長駿季：好，一個月我們可以處理。"],["賴委員瑞隆：法的部分怎麼做？我們的目標不是要去罰這些漁民，目標是要輔導他們不要踩到這一條線，我覺得這一塊是我們可以做更多努力的地方。一個月的時間做一個盤點的報告給我。"],["陳代理部長駿季：OK。"],["賴委員瑞隆：再來，我很關心的就是前鎮漁港的進度，水產品營銷中心是一個很重要的核心。我知道這個成敗的觀念來自於將來是不是找到一個好的產業能夠進駐，有指標性的產業進駐對整個前鎮漁港會有相當大的進展，我知道後來農業部採用OT的方式來進行。部長，現在進度到哪邊？"],["陳代理部長駿季：這個我是不是可以請漁業署先回答一下？"],["賴委員瑞隆：可以。"],["張署長致盛：目前我們已經完成初步的可行性評估，因為OT促參的部分必須經過農業部的審查，我們已經送到農業部，農業部也安排很快的時間之內，就會進行相關的審查。"],["賴委員瑞隆：部長預定什麼時候可以審查完畢來進行？"],["陳代理部長駿季：整體的部分，已經可以去處理的，我希望4月底到5月底之前能夠完成第一階段的審查。因為審查可能還會做一些改進，所以我覺得效率跟tempo要快一點，才能夠符合進度。"],["賴委員瑞隆：照原定的時程，今年底以前要完成相關的程序，可以嗎？"],["陳代理部長駿季：我們預計今年一定要完成，但是我們之前會有階段性的審查規劃。"],["賴委員瑞隆：我希望部長跟署長加快速度，好不好？"],["陳代理部長駿季：是。"],["賴委員瑞隆：越早招商完成，越早把好的廠商找進來，會加速整個地方上的推動。"],["陳代理部長駿季：瞭解。"],["賴委員瑞隆：再來是我看到年限後來也做了一些調整，有30年的時間，從最早期的時間拉長，當然30年讓將來業者投入的時候，比較能夠估算未來投資的……"],["陳代理部長駿季：是20加10這樣的概念。"],["賴委員瑞隆：20加10的方式。但是我看到烏石漁港有到50年，我還是請農業部審慎思考，希望你們邀商的時候，多聽聽看業界的一些聲音。"],["陳代理部長駿季：瞭解。"],["賴委員瑞隆：重點是招到強的廠商進來，好的廠商進來的話，就很輕鬆、愉快的經營，如果找到的不是一個強的廠商，恐怕後面就會讓大家很擔憂，好不好？"],["陳代理部長駿季：我們瞭解。"],["賴委員瑞隆：廠商需要多長年限，恐怕大家有很多的……"],["陳代理部長駿季：我們會個別來處理。"],["賴委員瑞隆：他們會有很多的整體思考，要投入很多規模的話，要有相當的……因為我們現在也在努力把捷運黃線拉進來，這也需要一點時間，所以我們希望整體思考，讓最大的遠洋漁港未來有非常好的發展，好不好？"],["陳代理部長駿季：瞭解。好，謝謝委員提醒。"],["主席：謝謝賴瑞隆委員。","接下來，請邱志偉委員發言。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":456,"meet_id":"委員會-11-1-19-7","speakers":["邱議瑩","邱鎮軍","楊瓊瓔","黃捷","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","呂玉玲","張雅琳","林岱樺","張啓楷","鄭正鈐","陳亭妃","鄭天財Sra 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00:02:42,802\n條文修正草案案案件事宜。但是從去年前政運館發生的事情就知道其實很多國人其實並不了解甚至很多的當時的議員要選立委的都還不太清楚所以我意思說這個還是希望部跟署裡面要加強去做宣導我們有這麼強的一個遠洋的實力那如果連連要參選立委的都搞不清楚還在講什麼抓歌集啦還在虧這種的話顯然是完全不了解\n\n8\n00:02:43,763 --> 00:03:11,774\n條文修正草案案案件及其中一半的國人可能更不一定那麼清楚甚至被似是而非的言論去講我還是希望未來加強去做宣導我們的漁業是一個很強的有一個高產值甚至於在很多的產業方面是養家活口造成很多人的一個生計的我覺得這個要不斷的讓國人更清楚的知道我想我們會持續加強遠洋漁業本身的正面的這些貢獻雖然說有少部分那種偶發的而且是這種這種\n\n9\n00:03:14,164 --> 00:03:15,745\n條文修正草案案條文修正草案條文修正草案條文修正草案\n\n10\n00:03:37,984 --> 00:03:40,445\n條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案\n\n11\n00:04:03,251 --> 00:04:05,132\n條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、\n\n12\n00:04:24,167 --> 00:04:25,949\n條文修正草案案案件及其其他條文修正草案案件及其其其其其其其其\n\n13\n00:04:44,867 --> 00:04:46,128\n條文修正草案案案案案案\n\n14\n00:05:06,817 --> 00:05:09,158\n條文修正草案案件事項﹖一、審查：一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、\n\n15\n00:05:26,347 --> 00:05:54,045\n這個初步我可以請那個業主先回答一下目前我們已經完成初步的整個可行性評估然後因為這個OT的部分、促參的部分我們必須經過農業部的審查那我們已經送到農業部農業部也排很快的時間之內就會進行相關的審查部長一定什麼時候可以來審查完畢來進行整體的部分就是已經可以去處理的我希望說能夠都能夠到四月底到五月底之前能夠把它完成第一階段的審查\n\n16\n00:05:54,625 --> 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案件及其中一半的國人可能更不一定那麼清楚甚至被似是而非的言論去講我還是希望未來加強去做宣導我們的漁業是一個很強的有一個高產值甚至於在很多的產業方面是養家活口造成很多人的一個生計的我覺得這個要不斷的讓國人更清楚的知道我想我們會持續加強遠洋漁業本身的正面的這些貢獻雖然說有少部分那種偶發的而且是這種這種\n條文修正草案案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案 條文修正草案\n條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案條例部分條文修正草案\n條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、\n條文修正草案案案件及其其他條文修正草案案件及其其其其其其其其\n條文修正草案案案案案案\n條文修正草案案件事項﹖一、審查：一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、\n這個初步我可以請那個業主先回答一下目前我們已經完成初步的整個可行性評估然後因為這個OT的部分、促參的部分我們必須經過農業部的審查那我們已經送到農業部農業部也排很快的時間之內就會進行相關的審查部長一定什麼時候可以來審查完畢來進行整體的部分就是已經可以去處理的我希望說能夠都能夠到四月底到五月底之前能夠把它完成第一階段的審查\n條文修正草案案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十四條條文修正草案案件及第十七條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案案件及第十八條條條文修正草案\n但是我們之前我們會有階段性的一個審查我希望部長這邊跟署長這邊加快這個速度好不好這個越早招商完成越早把好的廠商找進來會加速整個地方上面的一個推動那再來是我看到年限上面後來做了一些調整30年的時間從最早期的時間拉長那30年當然將來業者他投入的時候他比較能夠去估算他的\n整個未來投資的20加10這樣的方式。但是我看到五十漁港有到50年。五十漁港到50年。\n三條之一及第四條之一及第四條之一及第七條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之一及第八條之\n條文修正草案案件事件,我們希望整理思考,讓整個我們最大的遠洋漁港未來的發展是一個非常好的發展。」\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.069 --> 00:03.076\n條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、\n\n00:15.455 --> 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