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Tahovecahe委員：謝謝。","另外，我要做一個提醒，因為農業部這邊，林保署針對獎輔造林，從過去的20年60萬，現在有一個公告修正的版本，就是6年最高60萬，因為預告期已經滿了，很關心，就是要提醒何時上路，為什麼？因為在禁伐補償的案件申請是每一年的1月1號到4月底，但是根據你們的草案，是規定施行後的一年內，它是用匡定一年內，如果你要針對七年以上的造林要終止，他要加入禁伐補償是很好，免返還已領取的造林獎勵金，所以這個部分是很好的一個權益，可是我們很關心何時上路，因為禁伐補償的申請是到4月底，如果沒有配合的話，他們這一整年的權益就會損失，所以希望農業部跟原民會能夠針對這個空窗期去研議一下，看是要針對今年做一個例外展延，還是怎麼做，針對這個部分我是做一個提醒。","另外，我也想要追問一個問題，因為部長你應該很瞭解，我去年有關心我們有一群真正的老農民，這些人過去做過工作，可是呢，當他領取那一次的給付結清之後，因為年紀沒有趕上國民年金的上路，所以他們現在變成被排除的一群老人家，處境堪憐。對於政府不能夠改善他們的問題，我也覺得過不去啦，我特別看到農業部這個地方其實有講到辦理農保的目的是為了要照顧長期從事農業工作的農民，在發生事故的時候，他的經濟生活可以獲得保障，可是另外也特別提到，並不鼓勵長期從事其他職業，領有社會保險其他老年給付的人，因此就把他認定為已經有晚年生活的基本保障，所以他不得參加農保。可是我有講到確實是有這樣的漏接，當時您也有提到，如果他們確實是被漏接的一群，就應該要去想辦法幫忙。我也有找過農業部的同仁來討論，可是大家好像束手無策，我自己是看到在民國68年其實曾經有這樣的一個提案，就是說，像這樣的一個狀況，被認為是選擇性的社會福利措施，嚴重違背福利行政的公平原則，跟當時上路的條例的立法主旨不符合。所以在隔年我也看到，針對那些已領取勞工保險老年給付的漁會甲類會員，後來是開放他們進入到老年津貼的部分，所以並不是沒有方法。因此我希望是不是可以至少去盤點這一類的農民人數，然後對於這種結算金額過低的農民，是不是去研議怎麼樣讓他們至少在老年的生活能夠獲得保障，符合我們辦理農保的目的，部長，因為時間的關係，我就是做這樣的一個訴求。","主席，再給我一個議題。另外，我在3月1號的院會質詢上有要求說，針對我們目前現有的非法小型露營場，其實我們上路以來，幾乎沒有人能夠取得合法，最主要就是因為它位於19項的環境敏感地區，我希望你們開會，那請問有開會了嗎？"],["陳代理部長駿季：我們應該有相關的會議。"],["伍麗華Saidhai 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00:01:04,310\n即宜或非營利自用的墓地的話是免罰但是需要被查那一般野生動物在非原住民的話呢依據21條是免罰並沒有需要被查那另外一個部分我們也看到院版就是關於第十九條的部分關於這些列補的方法\n\n4\n00:01:05,031 --> 00:01:21,964\n而我是因為看到我們的說明有提到至於原住民族所用的傳統列據與前開定義之形式不同者非屬授甲範圍並與序名可是呢我們就完全沒有看到關於原住民傳統列據\n\n5\n00:01:23,685 --> 00:01:45,703\n這樣的一個文字。」所以呢我自己呢在修正動議呢我是希望說把原住民族的傳統列據齁把它分別的列出那另外也連動到21條之一也希望去做一個分別的處理齁把它納入傳統列據那再來就是希望能夠鑑於資訊落差有一個兩年的輔導期\n\n6\n00:01:49,266 --> 00:01:50,047\n條文修正草案案案件。\n\n7\n00:02:04,970 --> 00:02:27,066\n所以我們這一次的修法台用這個授甲的部分是很明確的而且還有它的定義的部分那第二個部分就是您提到說就是當我實施以後有兩年的一個緩衝期的部分我要跟委員說明就是說當我們做禁止的時候我如果提供了兩年的緩衝期那對於在使用這個獵具的人他就會\n\n8\n00:02:28,067 --> 00:02:54,197\n等到兩年以後再說,那我們同步再推改良式的這些列具,所以我們希望說改良式的列具能夠盡快的去推。所以我特別要請袁明慧這個地方要幫忙一下,就是關於什麼是傳統列具,它的規範、它的輔導,那個我希望袁明慧一起來推動這個部分好不好?好,各位委員報告,其實相關的辦法我們也跟這個林保署也開過很多的會議,那如同剛剛部長所說的這個婚宴表列的這個部分,\n\n9\n00:02:57,538 --> 00:02:58,579\n條文修正草案案案案案案案案案案案案案案案\n\n10\n00:03:24,298 --> 00:03:46,828\n因為在禁法補償他的案件申請是每一年的一月一號到四月底但是根據我們的草案說施行後的一年內他是用框定一年內如果你要針對七年的以上的照領要終止他要加入禁法補償是很好免返還已領取的照領獎勵金\n\n11\n00:03:47,868 --> 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及第十六條之一及第十七條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之\n355657\t357839\t條文修正草案案案件 條文修正草案案件 條文修正草案案件 條文修正草案案件 條文修正草案案件\n376192\t377153\t條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、審查．一、\n400532\t401894\t條例部分條文修正草案案 案。\n415936\t432123\t條例部分條文修正草案．一、審查．一、三十四條之一及第十六條之一及第十六條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條之一及第十八條\n435804\t436524\t條文修正草案案 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