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00:03:04,240\n吳沛憶委員會主席\n\n11\n00:03:31,826 --> 00:03:31,986\n主席\n\n12\n00:03:50,601 --> 00:03:54,364\n好這個我們的緊急應變機制請你們務必要去讓它每一次的演練每一次甚至災後我們實際上面的運作都應該理當可以讓我們的下一次可以做得更好那也請國會我們要繼續來投入因為這一次我們看到之所以我們可以半導體不停工然後供電\n\n13\n00:04:10,097 --> 00:04:14,682\n主要就是在於這些年來台灣的供電的穩定性除了我們剛剛講到的電網以外包括我們投資綠能包括我們投資儲能這些相關的研究我們國科會都有來投入支持這部分我們也希望我們要繼續來加強好不好\n\n14\n00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:31,660\n政府部會每位首長、公務同仁都不能置身於社會室外,最近全國國人非常關心的就是數位性暴力\n\n15\n00:04:47,951 --> 00:04:47,971\n吳沛憶\n\n16\n00:05:03,773 --> 00:05:30,003\n現在立法院也在討論兒少性剝削條例的修法那我自己也會提出版本但是我就在看因為我們國科會的研究事項裡面其實也包括了性品研究20年前我們國科會曾經支持過兒少性剝削條例的相關研究但是這性影像的散佈最害怕就是它一傳十十傳百尤其現在是一個全球的網絡甚至影像是傳到境外的\n\n17\n00:05:30,743 --> 00:05:58,227\n所以台灣有法人我們台灣網路資訊中心其實有進行一個研究案來做全球下架的研究其中也涉及到了運用我們的AI他用一部影片可以去找到其他這部影片還出現在哪些的網站就能夠去協助後續的執法來下架所以這個部分用科技來阻斷性影像的散播我們國科會可不可以來支持相關的研究\n\n18\n00:05:58,687 --> 00:06:19,366\n我們已經積極在規劃那因為尤其是數位這件事情是讓很多現在的這個相關的議題會變得更嚴重更快速傷害會更多所以我們事實上會等於是召集跨領域的你希望也有數位的專家不只是原來的這個關於這個兒少研究的專家我們會組成一個比較跨領域的團隊\n\n19\n00:06:20,106 --> 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這個我們的緊急應變機制請你們務必要去讓它每一次的演練每一次甚至災後我們實際上面的運作都應該理當可以讓我們的下一次可以做得更好那也請國會我們要繼續來投入因為這一次我們看到之所以我們可以半導體不停工然後供電\n主要就是在於這些年來台灣的供電的穩定性除了我們剛剛講到的電網以外包括我們投資綠能包括我們投資儲能這些相關的研究我們國科會都有來投入支持這部分我們也希望我們要繼續來加強好不好\n政府部會每位首長、公務同仁都不能置身於社會室外,最近全國國人非常關心的就是數位性暴力\n吳沛憶\n現在立法院也在討論兒少性剝削條例的修法那我自己也會提出版本但是我就在看因為我們國科會的研究事項裡面其實也包括了性品研究20年前我們國科會曾經支持過兒少性剝削條例的相關研究但是這性影像的散佈最害怕就是它一傳十 十傳百尤其現在是一個全球的網絡甚至影像是傳到境外的\n所以台灣有法人我們台灣網路資訊中心其實有進行一個研究案來做全球下架的研究其中也涉及到了運用我們的AI他用一部影片可以去找到其他這部影片還出現在哪些的網站就能夠去協助後續的執法來下架所以這個部分用科技來阻斷性影像的散播我們國科會可不可以來支持相關的研究\n我們已經積極在規劃那因為尤其是數位這件事情是讓很多現在的這個相關的議題會變得更嚴重更快速傷害會更多所以我們事實上會等於是召集跨領域的你希望也有數位的專家不只是原來的這個關於這個兒少研究的專家我們會組成一個比較跨領域的團隊\n今天我們的火箭阿伯吳主任也沒有來有副主任代表吳主任現在仍在美國去參加美國太空博覽會\n美國太空博覽會是去年首次獲邀 去年是新聞報載說去年中國沒有出席 現在你們太空中心正在美國參加太空博覽會 今年中國有沒有出席\n今年這個部分也沒有嗎?沒有看到中國的官方代表今年中國也沒有受邀出席那其實我們更加關心的是我們到美國參加這個博覽會合作了交流了哪些議題這會後希望可以提供資料給我們好沒問題\n最後是在花蓮的救災裡面我們看到了太空中心福衛五號的應用我們緊急更改排程提供災前後影像的比對這是一個對國人來講是非常大的一個消息我看我們國人也湧入你們的粉絲頁來感謝你們當然國人也關心的是我們還有福衛八號的計畫目前預計的時程是如何\n福威報告目前的第一顆衛星預計在114年底的時候會有發射的機會所以目前正在做整合測試的工作那明年可以做發射了\n吳沛憶\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.089 --> 00:06.115\n有請林副主委\n\n00:13.137 --> 00:18.022\n委員早安副主委好這個台灣發生了花蓮的地震關於我們的產業尤其是我們科學園區的損失以及恢復這個大家都很關心尤其是因為台灣的半導體產業是全球現在整個工藝鏈的關鍵所以呢不只是\n\n00:31.434 --> 00:31.454\n吳沛憶議員\n\n00:51.590 --> 00:55.074\n我再詢問你說我們園區的恢復這個細節的資料請你會後要提供我在這邊要提醒國科會因為立法院最近也在討論國會調查權的問題因為科學園區你們國科會你們是房東啊\n\n01:08.810 --> 01:32.563\n裡面是我們台灣重要的產業有非常多的廠商你們提供的資料千萬不能去涉及人家的營業秘密因為這是涉及到產業可能影響到他的訂單甚至可能影響到了股市國會調查權不是你說或我說的算哪些資料可以提供哪些資料不能提供這個都有法律規定的必須要涉及公共利益你們才可以提供\n\n01:33.523 --> 01:37.046\n所以說不管是在這個諮詢台上還是會有提供的資料其實你們都要務必謹慎因為台灣的半導體產業全球都在關心簽譽法動全身其實你們要特別謹慎注意好不好我們這一次在這個地震之後我們國科會針對我們園區的穩定性我們是成立緊急應變小組怎麼樣來做這個機制\n\n01:54.718 --> 01:56.740\n最主要的其實我們想要關切的是在我們園區的供電\n\n02:12.899 --> 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